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  1. withheld

    Jeff Jarvis’ website, BUZZMACHINE.COM, has a discussion happening now in the comments of an article covering both Jeff Jarvis and Matt Cutts “statements” regarding this development.

    http://bit.ly/QNIU4

    • Rich Ord

      Funny… but haven’t we linked to you enough right in the original article Jeff?

      Rich Ord
      CEO, iEntry, Inc.
      Publisher of WebProNews

  2. Tim

    There is an almighty difference between RULES and LAW. Most people feel no obligation to adhere to rules, which are simply guidelines imposed by non-elected bodies, but when these rules have been enshrined as law by a democratically elected government, then we will see a significant proportion of the people take the new regulations seriously. The question gets down to one of AUTHORITY or JURISDICTION to regulate and whether individuals actually consent to this alleged authority.

    • Guest

      I think you’re mistaken about the rules… The bulk of the Executive branch is concerned with regulation; not law-making. The ability to enforce regulations rests with the White House. They can impose any kind of tax they want as long as it is cloaked in the garb of regulation. It bypasses the Congress.

  3. Guest

    This opens the door for fines levied on anyone who ever took advantage of a Buy3 get 1 free promo, and then posts a review of that product without disclosing that they got a free tire or knife or whatever. Muy malo…

    • Well it is in Germany ( think, my best efforts at tracking this down have been made and please seek the care and advice of a normal sane person). Parts of the EEC do not allow ‘tell a friend’ scripts as they see it as spamming. Our laws for payment in France are different from the UK if you go via PayPal and of course all the other banks that PayPal has turned into.

      I was told something I promoted was a scam. I asked the owner to reimburse the buyer and give me access (very nicely). I was making money keying in blogs in minutes. No scam.

      This sort of thing is not a new game. Gordon Brown and Tony B snuck a devastating law regarding how certain freelance workers can actually work (like doubling their state charges) in a disablement law. And now they want to make Tony B.Liar President of the EEC. Wow what a pair we are going to have.

      Absolutely nothing in this post should be considered legal or professional advice.

      Froglet

  4. Guest

    Still trying to think about all the implications.
    Good post

  5. JS

    funny, how about all the crap i see on tv? according to these people every diet machine, diet pill and get rich quick scheme actually work. oh wait, i forgot. they have those itsy bitsy tiny little disclaimers that flash as the bottom of the screen faster than you can see or read them. so here you go bloggers; just use some javascript, put a disclaimer in the smallest font you can, at the bottom of your post, and have it flash on and off, faster than anyone can read it…..

    • You have something here. It works for the garbage being sold on TV, why couldn’t it work for bloggers doing reviews.

  6. Okay, Mr. and Miss FTC,

    How about going after the number 1 sponsored event out there today, and take on the lobbyists and our very own government representatives.

    If anything needs to be divulged, it’s the amount of money that representative X got for his campaign or for his pet project by voting with those monetary endorsements from a particular lobby group. Or who got what money to sponsor a particular person to actually have a seat on the FTC. So let

  7. Guest

    The FTC isn’t threatening individuals who blog, rather it exposes private and political entities who “astroturf”–those who pose as individuals sharing their opinions. Imagine if the Communist party were posting political messages under the guise of individual bloggers expressing thier opinion. Professional blogging is becoming a HUGE industry, and companies interested in “viral advertising” spend a lot of money to get people to “blog” thier opinions, but those opinions are really advertisements. If oyu’re reading an advertisment, shouldn’t you be allowed ot know it? Fair disclosure is just..fair.

  8. Another US Govenment department on that famous hill that seems to be on a mission to make a total arse of itself on the world stage.

    What next? Extradition requests because a european Blog has been viewed by the FTC as endorsing a product and can be viewed on US computers?

  9. Guest

    Welcome to the Obama Nation, you all have been owned.
    This will only get worse. This is Gov first step into trying to police web.
    They slipped this in, not a word was said and no one even heard about it
    until it was passed. Ownage!!

    And you can believe big G had its hand in this is well, make ppl pay for PPC
    instead of paying Bloggers and Vloggers.

  10. Federal Trade Commission? So what, the rest of the world is not part of your federation. I’d like to see them impose a fine on a blogger in France, Lithuania or Nigeria, LOL

    Note I didn’t say “The UK” becasue our Puppet Government would probably roll over and extradite the blogger under terrorist laws.

  11. It is fairly common to see competitors using forums, social networking sites and blogs to pass negative comments about services or products offered by others. By the same token, Would FTC also impose fine to those who give false information for negative marketing!

    How did they arrive at the value of $11x Zeros? Does anyone earn even 1/10th of such amount by advertising?

    And finally, word of mouth advertising (considered to be the best!) is often done when one has really liked a product, and doesn’t necessarily mean he / she has been paid to advertise – so do we setup an international cops cell to monitor who is using what, when, why where and how ?

    This truly is a globally absurd idea.

    IS anyone awake at FTC?

    Thx
    Veena

  12. Chris Crum

    There is also a conversation going on the topic in our forum at WebProWorld.

  13. I seriously think Mat Cutts is seriously losing it. For a Google search guy to be spouting and pontificating about a trustworthy internet when googles own criteria just for getting indexed/ranked keep shifting on an almost weekly basis and the only clues as to what is required are issued in ambiguous comments just demonstrates that Mat and his buddies are more, than a bit out of touch with reality.

    The Reality is that most internet users have a ‘day job’ and simply can’t afford or even justify expensive SEO services and have limited and precious little time available.

    Too many times google searches return pages of useless and scam pages with decent pages that have clearly had a lot of effort and research invested in them buried countless dozens of pages down in the results in favour of countless dozens of scam and irrelevent pages.

    Maybe instead of agreeing with more regulations Mat/Google could endeavour to make Google’s operations a bit less clandestine? and ultimately help themselves by having more high quality content available?

  14. SC

    Congratulations to everyone who voted for Obama. There is undoubtedly more of this to come.

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    • Guest

      Was there a relevant comment in there, or just your link spam?

  16. N. Prescott

    If I blog that Senator Foghorn is a great guy who will put a chicken in every pot, do I have to disclose that I voted for him and happen to own a chicken farm? And would you really trust Google to be the arbiter instead? My daddy always said, believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. Too bad that the current crop of brain dead, reality show watching, celebrity worshiping nitwits think that the Internet is the voice of truth. Thank the lord we have the government to tell us poor lemmings which cliff to march off.

  17. Guest

    Will free speech Prevail? Or is the blog, AND freedom dead. The choice is really yours, you have exactly the amount of freedom your willing to fight for. Keep that in mind when the “Health Care Goons” come around to collect there tribute money.

  18. I’m not really worried about it. I just put this in my emails and on my blog:

    FTC notice: Ask the Geek and/or its owners and affiliates may be compensated for products recommended or endorsed in newsletters, reviews, emails, blog postings, and web pages.

    Simple. People trust my opinion. Who cares if I get paid somehow? All I’m saying here is that I’m a paid celebrity endorser of the product. I’m not going to lose commissions on affiliate relationships because of the rule.

    Ken

  19. So we only clean up the web in the US, but these rules don’t apply to those outside of the FTC jurisdiction.

    Is this a case to outsource paid reviews then?

  20. i think this isn’t good for bloggers.
    but the gov can do what it wants..
    regards.
    anunturi from ro.

  21. The FTC should leave regulation in the hands of web marketing experts who know what is going on, and not impose because they feel so.

  22. Okay, first of all, how does this affect international marketers? I won

    • Guest

      Of course it won’t……..that’s not their ultimate goal!!

  23. wxman

    I didn’t get to read all the comments yet, but right off I wondered about authors. They blog about themselves, and their books as they come out. They obviously get paid for their books, but do they have to have some sort of disclosure in each post?

    • Stupidscript

      Read my above reply about plagiarism.

      If it’s your own product, you’re fine. If you are a third party that receives goods or payments from companies to write articles or reviews, THEN you need to pay attention.

      It’s really not complicated if you take a moment to read the regulations. Getting a wild hair up your butt and tossing out “yeah, but, what if…” scenarios doesn’t make you look good. It’s really just common sense.

  24. Guest

    The relentless march toward totalitarianism continues. We’re all being bound in regulatory straight jackets and bolted into our rules and regulations, with no possibility of freedom of movement. We are transitioning from the age of the risk-taking innovators back to an era of the paranoid hunker-downers.

  25. Matt Cutts – “Endless Scams on the Internet?”

    I understand where he is coming from… however correct me if I am wrong… Google ate up the entire internet… it made virtually no effort to “allow” proper content into it… It violated any number of copyright laws, and it supported others who breached it as well…

    Google can’t have it both ways… They cannot demand for fair and honest, or non-paid posts, when they themselves make no effort to screen the content for “quality” themselves…

    I have seen any number of Google employees endorse or otherwise mention Google products on websites which are not “official”… Were they on the clock? Of course they were…

  26. Ridiculous IMO! I agree, common sense is needed to clean this up.

  27. Stupidscript

    Your company can do anything they want with their own content. Period.

    Plagiarism refers to content that has been developed by someone else and is then repurposed and claimed as original by someone else. For example, if someone else in a different company took your doctor’s articles and posted them on their own website with their own byline, that would be plagiarism.

    Paying a translation service to translate content owned by your own company has nothing to do with this, and is definitely NOT any kind of plagiarism.

    This is about third parties who receive payments or goods in the form of payment companies in exchange for posting articles about those companies or the products they received as payment. For example, a writer who receives a case of Coke Zero from Coca-Cola in exchange for writing an article about how Coke Zero tastes exactly like Original Coke. Or the blogger who receives a monthly “honorarium” from Microsoft in exchange for blogging about how Windows 7 is really cool.

    The regulations have been put in place to protect people who read such articles and reviews so that they would be able to tell that the writer had been paid by the company they are writing about. This is so that people who read such articles will know that the article or review wasn’t simply an act of passion on the part of the writer, but rather is part of their professional job working for a company that pays them to write such articles and reviews.

    It makes a difference if you know that favorable review you just read was paid for by the company that made the product. In the same way, it is very important to know who paid for research, and that is why similar regulations exist for that area of study.

    For example, if you read a research paper that said, “our research shows that XXX food product is simply the purest form of food on the planet” and then you found out that the author(s) had been paid to write that paper by the XXX company that manufactures the food product, wouldn’t you be a little bit skeptical about whether XXX’s food product was really all that pure … or maybe it was just the XXX company trying to sell its product … ?

    As consumers, we NEED to know when an article or review is a paid advertisement, because there is literally no way for us to find that out on our own. Let me repeat that, because so few anti-regulation commenters in this thread seem to realize this: There is NO WAY for us to find out about who paid for what review on our own unless it is disclosed by the author or the company that paid them. Regulations like this one are the ONLY way to force people who would rather lie to your face than publish an honest review to do the right thing for the good of the community.

  28. Guest

    Ever been reading a magazine and started reading what you thought was an article? – got to the bottom of the page and in “light” type it says ADVERTISEMENT. It changes your perspective of the article. That should suffice for anyone doing a review of a product for which they are getting paid.

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