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In case you thought you were alone, you're not the only one miffed* at ABC's Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos after last night's "debate." Over 16,000 people have commented so far at ABCNews.com's debate page—and most of it's not good.
The title struck me as funny: "Philly Fight Night: Dems Spar Over Electability." It was funny to me because my wife was surprised last night a primary debate was on a major broadcast network instead of CNN or other news channel. I responded that the Democratic race had become a kind of Wrestlemania.
I didn't know Gibson and Stephie were going to pull Obama into a three-on-one cage match. But that's pretty much what happened. If you were one of many who likely turned off the debate after 45 minutes of "Barack, why are you such a jerk" questions, they did actually get to some issues that mattered. Why, right there at the end, the candidates got one full minute each to address the gas crisis.
But the flag pin question is important, too, I guess, in Bizarro America where steroids become cause for Congressional investigations and former Clinton White House staffers somehow don't have a conflict of interest while moderating a very important debate.
Anyway, I'm not the only one complaining about it. ABC News is probably wishing they never enabled viewer commentary on their site – sometimes Web 2.0-style feedback can feel like a virtual lynching. I don't know what the record for number of comments on an interactive site is, but this has to approach the record, at least for a broadcast network site.
Here are a few choice comments:
Trash. Plain and simple. What a waste of time. ABC owes the American people an apology. I now understand more than ever why I don't watch ABC news.
How low ABC news has fallen along with the rest of American television journalism. It's hard to believe that this was once the network of Peter Jennings and Ted Koppel, who always assumed the intelligence of their audience. What we saw last night was tabloid journalism of the worst sort. The MSM bears a strong responsibility for the debasement of our political discourse and with it of our democracy, precisely because of their focus on this kind of trivia. Shame on ABC! Shame on George Stephanopoulos and Charlie Gibson!!
Totally pathetic - when CG and GS weren't sobbing over those poor souls making 200K+ who might have to pay more taxes, they were focusing on the most inane issues possible (Lapel pins? Seriously?). Thanks for killing democracy guys! And you wonder why network news is failing and Jon Stewart's ratings are soaring...Watching this "debate" with my eighteen year-old son made me ashamed of being an adult. How can I expect him to take voting seriously when our national media treat the election process so shabbily?
wow abc how embarassing for you. I expect tmz.com could run a better debate.
That last one seems especially harsh, don't you think? Oh well. One thing we can say about the power of the Internet and the now two-way conversation between media and the public is that the public has a much better an efficient way of letting the media know what's what.
*The word "miffed" officially wins the Understatement of the Day Award
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ousama no koe ni sakaratte
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oorora ni sawareru hoka no ue
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kimi nara sore ga dekiru
ousama no koe ni sakaratte
ousama no koe ni sakaratte
barechatta yoru kimi wa waratte ita
oorora ni sawareru hoka no ue
ryoute wo nobashite boku wo sasotte ita
hodokete barabara ni natta biizu
kirei da ne tte yozora ni purezento
doukashi wa sugao wo misenaide
joudan mitai ni aru hi inaku natta
sekai wa kyou mo kantansou ni mawaru
sono supiido de namida mo kawaku kedo
kimi no yume ga kanau no wa
dareka no okage ja nai ze
kaze no tsuyoi hi wo erande hashitte kita
imagoro doko de doushite iru no ka na
me ni ukabu tereta ushiro sugata ni
aitai na
kimi no yume ga kanau no wa
dareka no okage ja nai ze
kaze no tsuyoi hi wo erande hashitte kita
tobenakute mo fuan ja nai
jimen wa tsuzuite iru n da
sukina basho e yukou
kimi nara sore ga dekiru
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So what do you think?
So what do you think will happen with the election this year?
POOR SOULS MAKING 200K+
Totally pathetic - when Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos weren't sobbing over those poor souls making 200K+ who might have to pay more taxes
This is why we should all vote for Barrack Obama, how many average Americans make over 200K per year, Seriously how many of us barely makes over 18K per year, we can barely support our family, yet we still have to pay high taxes. How much did Hillary and Bill Clinton made?.
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Yet another reason why....
I stay out of politics. In our state it doesn't matter who gets what anyway as our state always votes rebuplican when the time comes for the electoral college to do what it needs to do.
So I just sit and watch the debates and the mud slinging and all the other nonsense that goes with it and hope for the best.
Now I see why people
Now I see why people grounded in reality always say how fun it is watching the democratic candidates. It really is like watching a snake eat it's own tail!
That's what we have become...
...It was a fine example of what the US media has become, just as the popularity of a radical muslim in the Presidential race shows what America has become. It's all a bad joke. I feel as though I am sitting on the sidelines watching America go down the proverbial toilet. People better wake up or they are going to find that after election day, they have elected the enemy into office. Go John McCain!
...and Boo-Hiss to Charlie Gibson and George "Sit and lie to us"! Where is Peter Jennings when we need him?
Dearest Tammy Elaine, I know
Dearest Tammy Elaine, I know if i open up the encyclopedia I will see your name under STUPID...IGNORANT...FOOLISH...ARROGANT....SYMPATHETIC...A WORTHLESS HUMAN BEING. Obama is a muslim where is your proof, did you ever get out of pre-kindergaarten, John Mccain is an arrogant terrorist just like George Bush, who will only jeopardize the safety of the American People.
Am I in the right place??
Political discussion always brings out ignorant people like the aptly named "Molly Red Neck" to clog cyberspace with thoughtless propganda. Rather than discuss issues intellegently, it is much easier to launch baseless "ad hominem" attacks. Usually, I just ignore these "useful idiots", but calling McCain an "arrogant terrorist" is so offensive and ridiculous, I had to respond, simply to point out the lunacy of the morons like "Red Neck", Jerimiah Wright, and others who strive to seize power in ths country by outright lies, misinformation, and mean-spirited rhetoric.
My second point is that I have generally enjoyed the fact that this blog has been generally free of such blatherings as "Red Neck" has offered here, but given the opportunity, it tends to crawl out of the woodwork like cockroaches. So, please stick to the issues about which most of us, I presume, come here to read.
Thank you. ....and by the way....please don't respond to this post with more blathering about me being a Nazi, or whatever. If you want to debate the substance of my post, I welcome the opportunity. (what are the odds?)
Am I In the Right Place ?
Yes - I'm okay with this. I've been getting great tips and information (related to various aspects of the web) for a long time. I had to double check the address to make sure I was at the right place.
I tried to post my two cents about that "debate" on the "news" site, comments were closed. Clearly they were getting blistered and rightfully so. The debate, while it did not serve many people well, served the network - in the short term at least - just fine.
Have you seen Obama's website, it's attractive, functional, informative and yes pulls in dollars. Have you seen the rage at YouTube, "Clinton" "Obama"...
Many lessons to be learned, I'll be implementing a blog as well as video soon. Content, it is all about the content.
Thanks for the post, I am definitely in the right place.
Will from DC
" Breaking eBusiness and
" Breaking eBusiness and Search News"?
Take this discussion out back. There are places for these kinds of posts (like your personal Twitter feed or personal blog). I subscribe to the RSS for Web posts.
Heh, now you know how
Heh, now you know how HIllary's supporter have felt up to now.
RIP: The Pretense of a Fourth Estate
We all had some questions about how things have managed to go on short of revolt given the depravities of the Bush "administration"---how such gross abuse of all things constitutional have suffered along with the pillage of the treasury and the manipulation and stealing of elections. We have a better idea now:
That 'fourth estate' we once counted on to bring sunshine onto and backpressure against such abuses has become a part of the twist and spin merger of the corporate and government that Benito Mussolini defined as Fascism. We saw that merger at its worst last night with Gibson and Stephanopoulos in full flash.
Thanks Charlie and Georgie for making things so much clearer.
I'd like to know why they
I'd like to know why they didn't ask why Hillary wasn't wearing a flag pin ?
And why weren't the moderators ?
Great question!
Great question!
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