Algorithmic flux or selective penalization? Nobody's sure and nobody that can answer is talking so far, but paid link directories have been plummeting in Google search results. Many are not ranking for their own business name, according to reports, even though webmasters have not received penalty notices.
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Editor's Note: This article doesn't address the robust discussion of whether Google should or should not devalue paid links, or even the value of directories themselves. This is a hot topic and we know you have an opinion. Speak out in the comments section.
As many as 60 directories, according to
this report, suddenly dropped in rank, leading to suspicion that Google has begun aggressively (and likely, manually) targeting paid link directories deemed to be in violation of the search engine's quality guidelines. Some have suggested competitor sabotage via the recently initiated paid link reporting form.
Some of affected directories included Aviva, Alive, Big Web Links, ewebpages, Directory Dump, Elegant Directory, and Biz-Dir. David Eaves, the owner and operator of
Biz-Dir told WebProNews that about 550 of his directory pages have been dropped from Google's index altogether.
| Key Takeaways |
Don't panic, rankings fluctuate
Review Google quality guidelines
Clearly label paid links
Don't Pass On PageRank
Don't forget content
Resubmit for indexing |
Eaves
admits to buying links, which he considers a legitimate form of advertising, but says Google gave him no notice that his site was being penalized. Eaves is considering dropping his paid links in order to get his pages re-indexed by Google.
It's important to note, though, that's not necessarily the best course of action for everybody. Eaves is obviously quite concerned for SEO and directory clients, and says he can
sustain a decent rank with natural links. And he says it wouldn't hurt him to change the links he paid for to nofollow, as the traffic from those links outweighs the traffic he gets from Google.
Again, Google hasn't sent out notice, and hasn't returned request for comment, so it could be just an algorithmic flux. So the important thing to remember is: Don't panic. This could be just the old Google Dance. I remember a man in 2005 ready to put
a shotgun in his mouth because his site was de-listed after an algorithm update. "Don't panic" was the operative phrase of that day, too.
But Google's Matt Cutts has been firing warning shots in previous months, both from his blog and from the Search Engine Strategies Conference in San Jose, saying that Google was going to be more aggressive about paid links that violated quality guidelines.
During a session at SES called "Are Paid Links Evil?" Cutts presented a
slide presentation, which he was approved to release, distinguishing the types of paid links Google doesn't like. Cutts cited first a Federal Trade Commission
ruling opinion that said sponsored or advertising links must be clearly labeled, and further differentiated between paid links by saying the only ones penalized were links that passed on page rank (PPP).
So whether or not you philosophically agree with Google's point, if being in Google's search rankings is more important to you than winning an argument, Cutts suggests labeling paid links in the following ways:
· Redirect through URL blocked by robots.txt
· Redirect through URL using a 302
· Use Javascript to direct the link
· Apply the rel= "nofollow” attribute to the link
· Add <meta name = "robots" content = "nofollow"/> to the page header
It may not be fair to say that Google favors buying links from certain places, but there are "certain places" on the approved list, and they include:
· AdBrite
· Quigo
· IndustryBrains
· Microsoft AdCenter
· Yahoo! Publisher Network
· Any site that doesn't pass PageRank
>>> Listen to the audio interview with Biz-Dir.co.uk owner David Eaves.
About the author:
Jason Lee Miller is a WebProNews editor and writer covering business and technology.
Comments
Fair Battleground
Well, it's a welcomed crackdown. Small marketers won't be able to compete with the humongous budget of the big guys. They can just get anything to the top of the result by paying for the links back to whatever site they want. Now, it's fair battlegound.
lets play a fair game
wow !! great news HUH!! Now this will bring all the players on same ground. Now Big companies cant can't just avoid small companies. They Cant boast on their money.
Thanks Google Guys
Cheers
Roshan
www.destinationsunlimited.org
www.indianreligioustours.org
No more Paid Links !
Yes, I totally agree with the Google's decision on not giving weightage to paid links. As there are webmasters, who are doing with more ethical way of get themselves included in the directories.
Not everyone, can afford to buy links from high PR directories or websites.
Free directories
We respect Google's decision as far as it is confined to Paid Directories alone as Paid link certainly result in Biased results as companies with enough enough finance can buy paid links and other companies lag behind as they cannot afford to Buy the links and are left behind as a result inspite of having a good content and a worthy site..
Start to submit to old Directory First
Start to submit to old Directory like DMOZ or others, Google respect them, paid directory are just for havinh a backlink to increase PR, and sometimes they don't submit any visitors.
Google is Evil and Who Cares what they do ?
People that put any stock in anything Google does need to take a step back. Do all of the pro Google people not realize if they go along with these stupid ideas, they are just helping Google control the internet ?
The whole intention of Google was a lie from the start. The plan to get large by promising the people they would never go public was born at the same time Google was thought of.
I have an 11 year old Chihuahua named Google at birth which I can prove from our vets records. We named one Google and one Booble. We posted a picture of each one of them on our website before there was a Google. Two college kids saw our site and stole the name for their site from a dog. I will never believe they came up with the name on their own.
I will use the name for anything I want as I can prove I had it on the net before they ever did. These people stole the name for their site and they have continued to steal since the conceptopn of their scam search site.
The people who even care what Google does are just being manipulated by scammers.
Kevin Hillman
Ad-Scams
I believe
google dance
Well only google knows what they are doing they have the hole picture . But if you are searching for a site name and it does not come in the top resaults then that very bad as the surfer searching wants that site. But i do belive it all a bit gonea bit mad pr rank does nothing for traffic at all. The only think it did was let the owners of the pr rank charge more for there links. But that is what google are trying to stop Yes i do belive it is a bit of poltics as there adsense and adwords as they are driveing to make more money this way. If this was not the case why whould they buy out companys for over 2b that where in the advertiseing market.
It is all about being number one I all so belive the search results these days are not so good.
Finally, a person with a backbone
This person said it all "It is all about being number one I also believe the search results these days are not so good."
If you have enough money, you can buy the number one spot on any Google search results page for any word directly from Google.
Google stopped being a search engine a long time ago and sold out to the highest bidder.
What they do in the future matters little. They are only concerned with making money and could care less if you or me make a penny.
Kevin Hillman
Ad-Scams
Where can you find out if
Where can you find out if your site has been reported for paid links?
Suspension of Unrelevant Links
Google should screen and counter check the links to ensure that whatever stated therein is reflected with the relevant and intended message otherwise what is the purpose of having a directory which gives 80% of irrelevant informations and wasting time of going through it.
links
How do you know if you are in violation of this rule? I have a company that does all of my submissions, but they are all in our category...gourmet food. I get nervous about these rules, since I do not control this part of my business. Thank you!
www.oregonmushrooms.com
Christina Cossairt
paid links
Oh well at just google are keeping things challenging... I've had sucess with alot of sites and never had to buy a link.. with the exception ofthe yahoo! dir
It is Rand Fishkin or Carp
It is Rand Fishkin or Carp boy and his friend Fat Cutts, I mean Matt Cutts. I am going to submit him to 1000 directories right away!
This article seems to
This article seems to indicate that this is something new for Google. I thought Google didn't like spammy type directories for a long time now. Directories that do not list "quality" sites and directories that have links to a "seo" and a "designer" at the footer of "every" page is not what I'd call "quality" at all.
I could be wrong, but why would Google want to give prominence to the few directories this article speaks about? If I were Google, I would not. Period.
My question would be; why does this seem like something new to this industry? Where has everyone been the past two years?
Who Ordained Google God of the Internet?
While I appreciate the strides that Google has made to simplify surfing the Internet, it seems like the mega search engine has ordained itself as "God" of the worldwide web.
From the acquisition of DoubleClick and Google's flagrant algorithmic modificatiions, it seems as though Google has too much autonomy over who succeeds on the Internet. Is anyone policing Google?
Link Directory
i also own a web directory but I am not in favor of the people who have cheated the system. Web directories are also cool to have better positions if the intentions are right and not by just manipulation. The directory industry is so infested that they manipulate the system in every way. I hope Google could spend some time on them really if they get back they could do more damage than good and since they could tell that its ok and Google has an approval and the saga of deception, manipulation, cheating goes on. A prime example of one of those that has been affected is a PR6 with thousand of pages indexed that has no listings and is primarily intended of passing PR and getting the top of serps so that submitters can view it. If it really is an ok site you could have spend less on category adding rather build a content on each individual category. Now most of these directories dont have this and have loads of high PR links which leads to an impression that is intentions is manipulation.
link directories
I am new to all of this, but it has always seemed to me that the primary purpose of the internet was to share information. In some cases, that means commercial information, and in other cases information solely for informations sake. There is every conceivable combination, and that is great. The problem is that when one site gains an unfair advantage over another by the use of any method other than the inherent value of the sites information. Buying links for page rank is a big part of the unnatural manipulation process. I think that page rank means less all the time, except to those who are invested in it's false economy. I see a lot of sites, with little or no page rank listed higher for the same keywords, than pages ranking much higher. That should be the bottom line.
What I question, is the use of advertising to gain better search status. If someone wants to buy an ad on a high profile site that is fine, but when the ad affects the search position, that is a shame, and is about the same as buying links for page rank in my estimation.
even my directory
even my directory has been hit buy this recent debacle. I ranked high for few terms but now not even for my own Business Name. :(
Google penalty
So directories are the things of the past now ?
Will G be hitting Yahoo! directory ?
However, I tend to agree. When webmasters milk the cow a bit too much, something is got to turn up.
link think
Trying again
link directories
Hey, Isn't there some way to read the comments without making a comment? Did I miss it?
I own a small company and
I own a small company and cannot compete with the big fortune 500 companies BECAUSE their paid links help them. I feel that if Google et. al. would not give paid links more weight, this would level the playing field
respectfully
Robert
another argument for relevant link exchange
this whole paid directory links fiasco is yet another reason why we generate traffic and SEO juice for our clients via relevant low volume link exchange using editor based products such as linksmanager. We never paid for links and we don't see benefits for buying links when we can obtain relevant links for our clients via reciprocal linking with quality sites in a slow manner. so many people dont realize link exchange works better than ever.
Directory links
Being the owner of a directory I have a biased opinion on the subject but I can tell you this. 4 years ago on alexa.com webs411.com was ranked at 34,000. We are hovering at 980,000 right now.
Google dumping paid directory links
Most of the PAID directory websites that remained unscathed by Google offer free links in exchange for a reciprocal link. All the directories that got hit offer no free links (only paid). I am of the opinion that they got too greedy. So I wonder what will happen to yellowpages.com?
Yellowpages allows listings, but no links.. unlike Verizon SuperPages who allows a basis free business link. More shall be revealed!
Advertising 2.0
Forget links try Advertising 2.0
The Term Advertising 2.0 is relating to web-based user controlled online advertising.
Advertising Web 2.0 Portals change the ways users interact with the web as a platform. Advertising Web 2.0 simply put is how website developers use the technology and tools available in order to simplify the website platform for the end user.
Advertising 2.0 relates to Web 2.0 portals that allow users to control many of the sites settings, not previously available for users to edit and or modify, this then gives the information and or the advertising a higher relevance on search engines when people search for specific information.
People are passionate about controlling the choices they have. The web is full of complicated and confusing log-in screens, forms, applications, approvals and user panels, specifically controlled and regulated by the site developers. Advertising 2.0 portals eliminate the complicated and unnecessary ho-hum of the Internet and so create a simple but very effective end-user solution.
This is a so called world's first web 2.0 advertising portal. http://www.whynotad.com
Lots of hype...we tested the advertising portal a few weeks ago and can see the benefits are enormous to Internet advertisers and search engine marketers.
Try it for yourself it take only a few minutes.
directory links
Has anyone come up with a body count on this issue? I have been searching for some updated information, but haven't found much. It would be interesting to know the extent of the situation.
link directories
It seems that this has been coming for a while. Could anyone be really shocked about it? Has anyone been able to determine if it is a result of a change in algorithms, or was it done with human eyes? I can see evidence of both.
Google, directories
For several years, I have enjoyed top 10 (usually in upper half so make that Top 5 )listings with Google...but about 40 days ago, I used a directory submitter...immediately, I was wiped out of Google although I continue to have high listings in other search engines. Interestingly, my google rankings were based upon actual visitors search terms, not my own terms...meaning that I was doing something right that helped visitors using google search...so what happened...it had to be the directory submission...
Paid Links
We paid " Google" for traffic with ZERO positive results. We also noticed it did not matter what we set or budget or when we turned the program on of off somehow Google would alway max out thier profit.
Google adjusts the ranking of your web site if you don't pay them. Our site fell way down when we stopped the pay for click ad's.
I think Google started off the hottest thing on the net! Now, I refuse to us it. Great company seem to go down hill when greed sets in!
Lynn Ladd
Are directories penalised?
We listed this website in a number of directories to drive in more traffic and our Google ranking immediately feel from 4 to 3. I'm still wondering if this was a coincidence.
This form is ridiculous
Since most of the discussion here is about Google, it is ridiculous to require posters' homepage before they can submit a message. What webmaster in his or her right mind is going to post comments critical of Google alongside the URL of their website? Maybe that seems a bit paranoid to you, but the fact is that Google is becoming increasingly dictatorial and is now actually targeting the "little guys" to make its point (ie, that Google, and only Google, controls the commercial web).
The discussion today is about directory websites. I own a directory website. It's been online for nearly two years, and it still has a Google PR of zero (the site does not break any Google rules). Virtually all the traffic to this site comes from other search engines (and links from other sites).
Google doesn't want websites to sell links because Google wants to sell these links itself. It's as simple as that. Google is competing - aggressively - with its own customers, while at the same time holding them to ransom (if they lost their Google listing, many of them would be out of business).
Anyway, my point is that Google appears to have developed a vindictive streak, and is increasingly using human operatives to monitor the "behaviour" of websites, to make sure they don't infringe any of Googles growing number of rules. And no one can afford to be knocked off Google. So maybe I'm being paranoid (and then again maybe I'm not), but I for one am not going to post comments critical of Google in an open forum where my hiomepage is displayed.
Paid directories...
I do'nt see any difference between paid and free directories because they will both place you on ZERO PR page...
I agree but
You still get a higher pr when your site is submitted into directories....
are you right?
Last Friday my impressions went to almost zero. I spend the day Monday trying to get help from "Chat" and they didn't know and really didn't get back to me but with the other garbage on their help pages. My bid is now $1 from $.55 for only the St. Louis market place. My ad was created by me and has no
Do you have any suggestions.
Thanks!
Why would I be penalized...could it be that they are not getting enough clicks from my ad? They particularly have hurt me in my two main keywords painter and painters where I was getting the impressions.
It would be appreciated if I did get a suggestion.
Thanks,
Sonny
Well done Google
It's funny how webmasters all agree on the fact that content is king, then they go and spend hours working on directory sites that are on the web solely to make money, but are no real use to anyone. The fact that Google is penalising directory sites now will hopefully make these talented webmasters work on more interesting and important web sites, leading to a better web for everyone else.
What's the use of directories anyway?
I wholeheartedly agree, who use directories these days to find information or products? Only the ones who haven't heard of search engines before. There is nothing more frustrating than to do a search on something, only to find directories containing links to sites that are not even related to what you searched for. So what is the use of submitting your site to a directory when:
(1) You do not get much traffic from these sites,
(2) There is no real benefit in terms of pagerank for your site.
Buying links to increase your pagerank is stupid. Lets say you are a cookie factory who sells cookies at a well-known hypermarket, but you advertise your products in some of the magazines, also sold by the same hypermarket. Do you place ads in these magazines so that the hypermarket will "rank" your cookies higher than those of other cookie factories? No, you buy advertising space for exposure, for client "traffic", for brand building.
The same applies to websites, you buy links for quality, targeted traffic, in other words for advertising purposes. If you buy links for any other reason, you are trying to game the system.
Advertising
Companies and Advertising agencies do take advertising to influence how products are stocked. We designed a poster campaign which was put outside houses and on the routes to work of a Supermarket's executives. This led to us having a higher brand awareness with them and a better listing in the stores.
We also had demands from supermarkets for us to support our products generally. So instead of Advertising nationally we took Ad spots in areas where the buyers and executives lived to make it look like national advertising.
directories
I submit only to free directories how will this effect my submissions?
Google's view on Links
It's an absolutely fair system which puts everyone on equal ground for competition for web surfers, no question about for various reasons...
1) Unlike free web directories, more than likely than not, when you pay for a web directory submission, your website will get listed. So paid submissions looses their value against free submissions.
2) Giving equal credit for paid submissions would put bigger business at a advantage. Since there are thousands upon thousands if not more web pages than there are visitors. Bigger business would get an easier rated because they can afford to pay all those directories...This would in turn damage small businesses, and personal pages in general. I call the whole paid directory submission nothing more than artificially inflating your rank.
I do disagree with google's view on links as it adds too much importance to higher ranked pages that are relevant to your site. I can understand why it's important, but since the internet is so vast with pages, the amount of links should be considered with the high ranked pages as well, maybe not have pull that higher rank pages do. Links ranked great or small still give your website more exposure on the web.
And you never know those lower ranked pages can get higher as well. But like I said, paid submissions are nothing more than just inflating one's rank...I surely do not want to see an ad like this for google ranking system, "Need more traffic? Want a page rank 8 to get more traffic? For only 1,000 dollars it's yours!" That would make page ranking a joke!
this clearly means that
this clearly means that google wants people to buy links from their "approved" sources and not paid directories. How can google dominate terms and conditions which are to be followed by everyone, this is monopoly and i thought the internet was all about freedom.
All about freedom ?
The internet is all about money!
Paid link algo coming of age.
Considering how long Matt Cutts has been talking about paid links, asking for paid link reports, ala an updated spam reporting system, for the benefit of testing algos, should there be any surprise if the switch finally got flipped?
I sometimes wonder if Google is also planning on doing away with one of the biggest motivators for the link biz, i.e. Toolbar PageRank, considering all the sites whose displayed PageRank has gone to 0 yet their SERPs and Goog traffic are the same as usual.
Personally though, I'm not too happy about penalties actually being levied, if that is what actually is happening or is going to happen because if they can detect them, why not just devalue the link juice from them?
But, no one asked me. :-()
dead google links !
Great article, google is changing what it looks for, mainly page titles, meta words, etc. If your readers want to improve there search engine relevance, try this new web 2.0 portal, http://www.whynotad.com it's smart programming gives each page the feed google needs to place it in a higher relevance. It's free to use and helps information rank higher in search engine relevance.
Keep up the great work and tips.
Jenny
Directory Link
Yes. I'm 101 percent agree with you that some kind of controls have to be implemented and also have to enforce it from time to time to ensure and maintain fair pratice.
you are right it's just the begining of the new google
you are right it's just the begining of the new google, we will see new things in the next 2 years with the google change visiting msn buying yahoo or joint the search resultea and other fichers togther. we spend thousands of dollars for what use to be kosher links but not any more some of those link want show on google. we still like google but it's need to be about the net users not only paid marketing.
Paid Links
Google are on a very dodgy path here. People might actually pay for links for the purpose driving traffic to their site and not influencing page rank.
Google want the passing of PR forbidden in such cases to counteract this. That would be fine if Google removed all sponsored advertising above the organic results, because in effect, those sponsored links are nothing more than paid links which have nothing to do with relevancy at all. (The relevancy factor of how pages are returned in the results by the algorithm)
What an oxymoron they have created.
To the victor the spoils I say. If those who can be bothered to do the leg work of sourcing links and want a successful business online, then good luck to them for making the effort.
Paid Links
This is exactly why google is going after paid links. They compete with both adwords and adsense.
link pages
Link pages where you pay to put your link along with many others are no longer ranked high with Google unless the link page has content that is related to the subject of your website.
So if you want to have a high ranking for inbound links, make sure they are on pages with similar content to your own, and that they have a high page rank.
Bonnie
http://www.InternetRealmLLC.com
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