Kris Jenner’s long-time friend Kathie Lee Gifford weighs in on Bruce Jenner’s 20/20 interview and says that she was “shocked” that he was transitioning.

The 61-year-old revealed to her Today co-host Hoda Kotb that “I never saw this coming, I’ve got to tell you.” She added that “It would have shocked me as much if Frank had told me [the same thing.]”

Gifford also mentioned that she had a deep conversation with Bruce before his 20/20 interview and stated that she will never reveal what they talked about. She admitted to being grateful for the talk because it prepared her “for everything he was going to say and even more.”

Gifford and her husband, sports commentator Frank Gifford, have been friends of the Jenner family for a long time and remain supportive of the former Olympian.

“How do you deal with that [the news]?” she asked. “The way you do, ultimately, is when you put love first, and try to put yourself in someone else’s high heels I suppose.”

The TV host also came to the defense of her best friend, Kris Jenner, who’s been unnaturally quiet since Bruce’s revealing interview came out.

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“She’s trying to get her act together, trying to be a good friend to him or her now, trying to be a good parent,” Gifford said of her friend. “And it’s complicated in ways that we cannot even comprehend.

Gifford also pointed out that while Bruce’s 2 ex-wives (Chrystie Crownover and Linda Thompson) had years to get used to the idea of Bruce transitioning, the idea was still new to Kris.

This was contrary to Bruce’s claim that Kris knows his secret and that she had seen him cross-dressing. He even added that they would “probably still be together” if she had been more accepting of his situation