Karrueche Tran recently talked about dating Chris Brown and how his being Rihanna’s ex-boyfriend frequently worked itself into the mix. She appeared as a guest on Keke Palmer’s show Just Keke, and opened up about what all of this means to her.

Palmer asked Tran what it was like to date a celebrity like Chris Brown she said that “keeping a level head and positivity” have definitely helped.

“I’ve never dated a celebrity before so it was very new to me, paparazzi and all that,” Karrueche Tran explained, adding that the Rihanna component made things more difficult than they needed to be.

“And then, even the situation with Rihanna, you know the reason why people turned into this so much was because it’s relatable. I have girlfriends, I have family who’s gone through the same situation. It’s the case of the ex. We all go through it, do you know what I’m saying?” she added.

The conversation seemingly turned into more of a monologue as Karrueche continued.

“In this case my boyfriend is a celebrity whose ex-girlfriend is an even bigger [celebrity]…so, I’m not only am I fighting a battle with her, I’m fighting a battle with her 14 million fans or however else,” she said. “So, imagine how that feels for me when I gotta get on Twitter and I see a whole bunch of stuff…they make up all kinds of crazy stuff and it’s like they know nothing about me. But, you know, because they know nothing about me, because I stay so mute sometimes, that leaves open space for them to say whatever they want.”

Karrueche Tran has been known for saying little to nothing about her relationship with Chris Brown–ever. In fact, even when it was widely known that Chris was seeing Rihanna and keeping Tran on the side she kept her lips sealed.

Keke Palmer asked Karrueche what the most difficult part of such a love triangle was.

“Um, jeez. I guess I would say the heartbreak because it was a real situation,” she answered.

Karrueche Tran recently posted a rather cryptic quote on Instagram that some speculate is aimed at Chris Brown. The two were recently rumored to have suffered yet another split following the BET Awards after which Breezy got ridiculously drunk. This post kind of makes it seem like there was truth to those rumors.

Lots of people have considered Karrueche Tran to be nothing but a celebrity cling-on–the kind of girl who clings to a celebrity in hopes of becoming one herself–ever since first hooking up with Chris Brown. Maybe that’s true and maybe it’s not. But if you look at Chris Brown’s past, who has been the one at his side all those times when push came to shove? Was it Rihanna?

No. It was Karrueche Tran.

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