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U.S. District Judge Murray Snow delayed a ruling in the racial profiling case against Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s office Friday as both sides remain at odds over key remedies to ensure the agency adheres to constitutional requirements. Snow found in May that the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office singled out Latinos and deputies unreasonably prolonged detentions, marking the first finding by a court that the agency covering Arizona’s most populous county engages in racial profiling.

In June, the case was delayed to give the two parties more time to reach and agreement, though Friday it became apparent that neither side was ready to give in. “I presume that you’re now leaving it up to me to take your outline and create an order, and that’s what I intend to do,” Snow told attorneys. He said he would issue a final order shortly after the Sept. 18th deadline for both sides to turn in any additional briefs.

The case arose after a small group of Latinos sued the sheriff’s office, claiming that their constitutional rights had been violated. They claim that they were detained by the agency simply because of their race.

There are a couple of key points they are hung up on. One requires deputies to note to dispatchers why they have stopped a vehicle before they make contact with the driver. Maricopa County Chief Deputy Jerry Sheridan told the judge it would be burdensome and risky since “traffic stops are one of the most dangerous things that deputies do.”

However, Cecillia Wang, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who is representing the plaintiffs, stated, “It takes less than a second to say, `I’m pulling this car over because it was speeding.’”. She added that such a requirement is needed “given the record … of racial profiling of Latinos in this county.”

Another key point that neither side will give on is the appointment of a monitor to oversee the agency’s adherence to the judge’s eventual order. Arpaio claims that allowing a monitor means every policy decision would have to be cleared through the monitor and would undermine his authority.”Obviously, my client opposes the appointment of any monitor,” Tim Casey, one of Arpaio’s lawyers, told the judge.

Casey said in addition to undermining the authority of the sheriff, the agency is concerned about how much power the monitor would hold, and how exposed the monitor would be to sensitive information, including ongoing investigations and search warrants. “Basically, the concern is one of safety,” Casey said. “The more people who know, the greater the risk of being burned.”

Despite the objections, Snow indicated that a monitor would be appointed and would have significant authority.
“It will be the monitor’s obligation to determine when the MCSO is in full compliance,” the judge said.

Arpaio’s office also disagrees the plaintiffs’ proposal to create an advisory board aimed at improving the department’s relationship with the Latino community. Casey argued that the Sheriff’s Office already has a community outreach liaison, and that “the sheriff recognizes there needs to be some improvement.There’s a positive effect if my client goes to the Latino community voluntarily,” he said, adding that if it appeared forced it would be “throwing fuel on the fire.”

While the judge’s May ruling doesn’t prohibit Arpaio from enforcing the state’s immigration laws, it does limit what the sheriff can do on his patrols, some of them in heavily latino-concentrated areas. The restrictions focus on using race as a factor in deciding whether to stop a vehicle with a Latino occupant and on detaining Latino passengers only on the suspicion that they’re in the country illegally.

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  • Jack Sprat

    It’s way past time someone put the Clamps on old Joe the Sheriff !

    • El guyvacho

      Habla usted espanol? Better learn vato. 11 million illegals and up to 1/3 of them entered through Az. Sheriff Joe has done what INS or employers will not do. Stop Illegals from coming into and staying in AZ.
      Sheriff is enforcing the current laws. The Feds can’t. Current law states a person without proper documentation should be deported.
      Get in a car accident with an illegal.. no insurance no license and they go to Mexico and you are stuck with the bills.

    • Katiedid

      Perhaps he could go to the desert with some pink underwear on and join the guys!

      • Steve Miller

        May God bless Joe and may he send us MANY more like him.

    • Rob

      Why? because he upholds the LAW
      you must be a wetback lover

  • Jose

    If Mexico is next door, then who does he stop? Southwest Az, probably has more Mexicans than Whites.

    • laura

      MCSO should stop those who are actually breaking the law, not those who “Could” be breaking the law and/or are Hispanic

      • Ray Bird

        ANOTHER WET BACK

    • Katiedid

      Nah, they all left due to racial profiling.

    • Rob

      ya and more wetbacks than legals

  • David S

    “Arpaio claims that allowing a monitor means every policy decision would have to be cleared through the monitor and would undermine his authority.”

    Yep, that’s certainly what it means Sheriff Joe.. You’re a racist pig, and you need to go…

    • Katiedid

      He sure is and we all know with whacko’s like Gov. Brewer and the teabaggers, it sure is a racial profiling state and these clowns need to go!

      • brian

        Hmmm!

  • Mark George

    Joe, you keep on fighting, you’re the hero of every city,county and state where the law enforcement officers (and I use that term lightly) do not enforce the law by arresting Illegal aliens. They shirk their duties because it MAY not be politically correct or just too much work.You keep on fighting the RIGHT fight.

  • http://aol.com robert smith

    ILLEGAL Immigrants are entering US illegally. Arpaio is only doing what the US gov’t refuses to do, which is secure the border. When millions of illegal white Europeans come across US southern border .then it would be rational to stop white EUROPREANS.

  • m edwardson

    maybe some of the things this guy USED to do were ok. But wow, you can’t have a Sheriff who knows he is above the law because he is THE LAW.

    And, by the way, this is The United States of America. And we were founded on something called the Constitution. He ignores some of said document.

    The guy has to go, I’m truly shocked he is still sitting where he is. And more shocked that someone has not tried to harm him.

    • TC

      You must be just another Mexican.

    • Ray Bird

      YOU MUST BE A WET BACK THEN

  • Rick T

    He is doing what needs to be done and should be done. Let him go,

  • jim Gator

    Sheriff Joe and his Sheriffs Department, is in his right to enforce all laws when it come to dealing with illegal Mexicans in Arizona . This Obama, Holder judge ass sucking dictator just thinks he can rule like Hitler in maters concerning the law enforcement and safety in Sheriff Joe’s County. The far left IDIOTS like Eric Holder and this Two Faced Judge think they are above the law, when in fact, All of the Obama Administration need to be investigated by congress for there violation in violating Citizens civil rights.
    You go Joe, America is behind you and some day we will rid our selfs of there radical leftest Judges

    • james

      “Mr. Obama has turned out to be THE most racist president in living memory and Mr. Holder is just as bad,”

      Please show ONE, JUST ONE Racist thing the President has done.
      I am so tired of ppl calling the half BLACK half WHITE, raise as a small child by an Indonesian, then in his youth by WHITE grandparents a racist. he has the most diverse racial background than ANY president and has done NOTHING to keep down or specifically raise up another raise. If he has, I challenge you to post it

    • james

      you need to look up your facts Gator, the investigation of Arpiao was started not by “far left idiots” like Holder and Obama, but rather by the Conservative Bush administration.
      and even back then the MCSO was ruled against for violating the law.

      all it takes is 5 minutes of research to avoid showing your ignorance

  • David

    we could use a few more sheriffs like him. its sad that our government is wasting time and money doing this stupid things to him. these drybaby latino’s need to obey the law and shut the hell up

    • Optilady

      So sick of people playing the race card every time they don’t like something. Most recently the blacks and Al Sharpton. Now the Mexicans are jumping on the race bandwagon !! Racial tension will continue to exist as long as people play the race card every time they don’t like or want to do something. It is Really Getting Old and Annoying.

  • Steven

    Mr. Obama has turned out to be THE most racist president in living memory and Mr. Holder is just as bad,
    if not worse.

    • Paul

      Arpaio is a good example of a bad cop–and a total jerk……….

      • Doc Vega

        Paul you are an example of a useless punk and I personally volunteer to kick your butt over the border to Mexico where you can stay with your beloved people! Now get lost!

  • usmcb10

    If we had more sheriffs like Joe our cities and towns will be a lot safer. I hope he beats all of these lawsuits and send the ACLU packing. The commentator was right when he said have a accident and they leave and go to Mexico, and you get stuck with the bills. Your insurance goes up. They come up here and take our jobs when we need to be taking care of Americans and not the whole world. Just look what they did to the economy in California illegals broke the medical care system out there. They get pregnant, nor to have their baby suddenly that baby is a US citizen. We need more sheriffs like Sheriff Joe you go Joe!

  • keith

    a Sheriff that keeps law and order, does not allow crimes to be committed, is enforcing the immigration laws and has made his county safer and made jail an unpleasant place to be is demonized, yet a president that breaks the law, ignores the constitution is praised. only in the current united states

    • james

      “a Sheriff that keeps law and order, does not allow crimes to be committed,”

      except those 400+ sexual assault casses that “slipped” through the cracks. apparantly his modo was ” Fuck them rape victims and kids, We gots Messkins to harrass”
      as much as I hate illegal immigration, I think Child molesters and rapist are a bigger problem dont you?

  • traderj

    if you are not a citizen of the USA your rights were not violated if i was visiting MEXICO or any other latin county for that matter any forgein country i would not be able to and say my rights were violated because i am a guest in their country and must abide by their rules and laws we are just to damm PC

    • http://yahooo Henry

      henry, Joe is a true patriot, the evil left is out to destroy him! He’s 81 years old. What going to happen after Joe. By God I hope there is a protégé Joe has been mentoring. We need ten thousand Joe’s. God bless you Joe, you are my hero1 I salute you!

      • Doc Vega

        Henry right on Dude! I hope they have someone to follow in Joe’s footsteps!

        • Knute

          Senor Vega,

          If thats you real name you must hate yourself and your parent. Please take a break from posting. I think we got
          the point. You dislike Mexicans, you are now becoming
          redundant with your venomous diatribe.

          Knute

  • TC

    It’s just too bad we can’t call it “Mexican” profiling in Arizona, since 95% of hispanics in Arizona ARE Mexicans and out of that percentage 80% are either illegal or anchor children. They gotta go, not Sheriff Joe Arpaio!! Mexicans are ever so quickly injecting their defective cultural behavior upon the US, bringing American quality of life, standard of living, and American values down to the level of their sewer hole of a country. We need someone with balls like Sheriff Joe since our own government is clearly already pandering to the illegal mexicans. This clearly isn’t a racial issue as they make it out to be. Go Joe!!

    • Gifted One

      So 80% of Mexicans living in Arizona are illegal? You’re an idiot. The majority of Mexican-Americans are hard working, God fearing people that are trying to raise a family and get ahead.

      • Doc Vega

        Hey Gifted one, did you get that name from picking up your welfare check and food stamps from the Arizona state government, Pancho?

      • Doc Vega

        You are right gifted one Americans are idiots for buying health care, education, and other assistance for illegal immigrants! Damn right I agree with you on that one, Manuel.

    • russ

      I spent a long time defending this country and it’s sad that now the Mexicans can come over here and tear down the life that I defended.
      It’s time for them to go home and pay back the millions of dollars their sorry country owes the US

      • Doc Vega

        It is sad that in Arizona they let Mexicans protest by walking on the American flag, putting graffiti, on the flag, and spitting on the flag not to mention what else these bastards do!

  • myself

    wow! what a bunch of racist, ignorant bastards…. it is a matter or right and wrong. fucking idiots.

  • myself

    wait, is this a FOX-run website?

    • ken

      no,its mine,and next week i’m coming to your house,i’m going to eat all your food,flood your bathroom,and i’ll be controlling your remote from now on,go complain to obummer if you don’t like it!!!!!!

      • Doc Vega

        Whoa yeah! Ken!

    • ADAN

      what Fox news and Arizona have in common? that both of them are the biggest hypocrisy.

    • RJ

      The time for talk is over, it’s time to take action against our corrupt Government. Wake up sheeple!

      • Doc Vega

        Damn right people it’s time to stop the insanity and get rid of Eric Holder and Barack H. Obama! If they had their way they’d hand over America to our enemies and they’re doing it!

    • Doc Vega

      Myself, why don’t you pull your brains out of you behind and pay attention the the issue, has nothing to do with Fox and everything to do with low life scum drug dealers, criminals, and people breaking our laws and coming here expecting government hand-out! Got it clown?

      • wes

        just like the wetbacks do, they ruin this country

      • Snookie

        Stop insulting clowns. We are good people who love kids and our country

    • Doc Vega

      Fox? Hey Jackass this is Yahoo and you are in need of a new brain. Ask that Mexican Cartel to grow you a new one, comprendo?

      • loc

        Hey Doc Vega its Comprende? You stupid dumb ass racist fucking,pendeja, babosa, you need a big fucking verga up your ass, you’re an ignorant hija de puta. FUCK!! Joe Arpaio his another fucking Hitler of our generation he can also suck a big donkey dick, you too bitch ass leva. Yeah Mexicans protest, but never spit on the American flag you’re, you’re just lying up your ass. I’m impressed how many ignorant mother fucker use Gods name, if you dumb fucks really believe in God, you should know that he judges no one, so why should you. Keep Gods name of out your mouth stupid dumb fucks. By the way at least we work and not beg for money on the streets so SUCK A BIG FUCKING DICK you all racist fucking mother fucker and I’m out.

  • az renter

    Arpaio needs to retire. Period.

    • Doc Vega

      Hey brainless, why don’t you retire and go back to your country? Got it essay?

      • Mike

        doc, you’re an idiot. all of your comments are the same. “hey (insert insult) why don’t you (insert commenter’s talking point), ok (insert another insult)?” glad I don’t know who you really are because I’d fill your sorry ass full of lead.

  • Karmaupos

    I’m truly amazed that the Mexican cartels have not taken him out. He’s lucky to be alive.

    • Doc Vega

      Hey Crap for brains why don’t you go down there and let them take you out cox sukker?

    • Mike

      the cartels have nothing to gain by exterminating this hog. cartels don’t care about their own people, they only care about profits.

  • christina

    I think we need more Joe Arpaio to do what is necessary and isn’t afraid. Everyone wants to be politically correct these days or liberals and seriously why is it when it comes to “MEXICANS” right we should bow down NO WAY !!!! They are part of the reason we are so far in debt. They come over get credit cards, go on welfare, driving new vehicles and we hard working american born and raised don’t qualify for a darn thing send them back Joe everyone!!! Those of you idiots comment not on behalf of Joe we obviously know that your a non working criminal or a welfare recipient who has no values or worked in your life> KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK JOE!!!!

    • Doc Vega

      You got it Bro, more heroes like Arpaio who don’t listen to the federal government! Yeah!

      • KKL

        you got that right why should he listen to fedral government? Federal government don’t listen to us

        • Robert

          We are 50 states and I’m not exact on the number of territories. All with our own local and state Governments. Washington is suppose to work for us. Governments are suppose to work for us. The Federal Government is not in charge of the states. It is the other way around. Local Governments and the people who elect those in Government know what is best for them. The Power lies with the People. But the people need to be active enough and educated enough to know where the power comes from. We cannot allow undocumented workers, illegal aliens to Vote, sit on juries, or be elected to positions in Government.

  • Steve Miller

    We need more men in America just like this one. Illegal immigrants should not be tolerated…..period. Criminals should not be tolerated. The liberals are ruining this country. Everyone wants to talk about there being no jobs. Unemployment is high because we allow immigrants to come and take the jobs and we allow lazy unproductive Americans to set on there asses collecting welfare. Whats worse than lazy no good Americans collecting welfare is the government allowing illegal aliens benefits as well. Welfare was something put in place during the depression so people did not starve but not meant to become a way of life. This country has allowed welfare to be a way of life for so many that has helped to ruin us. My taxes rise to take care of the lazy. Where is that fair?????? America is not the great and powerful nation she once was because we can no longer stand for what is right. The president of this United States should not be out trying to be a movie star but should be out looking to save this once great nation. It is time to get back to the basics and that is “One Nation Under God” …. “In God We Trust” and so on. If my child or yours wants to pray in school and say the pledge of allegiance than God bless them. If yours do not want to or you do not want to hear it than dont listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Randi

      Those of us who live in Texas have come to realize that even though we beat the Mexicans at San Jacinto, the Mexicans are beating us now by bankrupting the welfare system, the food stamp system, etc.
      Sneaky!!!

  • Rob

    Pure BS, now the liberal give the country back to the mexicans are trying to control how law enforcement upholds the LAW, sheriff Joe doesn’t abuse the law he just enforces the letter of it, something our lame government fails to do 100 percent.

    • james

      the MCSO has a multitude of sivil rights violations that both the federal AND state courts have rulled against him. like feeding inmates moldy bread and rotten fruit. how would YOU feel if you or your relative was arrested (not convicted simply arrested which means nothing) and you were given molded bread and rotten fruit to eat?

  • http://yahoo Steelman1

    What constitutional rights? As illegals, you have no rights. Way to go Joe….send all the illegals out!!!!!

    • wes

      i totally believe in Sheriff Arpaio…there are too many illegals in this country as it is. Im caucasian and i saw on the news that we are the minority now

      • http://yahoo Tony

        ha ha you just found out in the news that you are a minority. Where have you been living???

    • james

      showing your ignorance

      the supreme court has ruled on multiple occaisions since the 1800s the illegal aliens DO have rights under the constitution. the moment they are on US soil, they gains some (not all) constitutional rights.
      the rights being discussed here they DO have

  • ann vanvleck

    He is like Hitler. Everyone deserves to be treated like a human being regardless of race. I hope he ends up in one of the desert tents with pink underwear! Every Mexican I have ever knows were hard working people.

  • mitch

    I was a police officer in a small community for several years and I can assure you that if you are making a traffic stop in the middle of the night and know that you have little or no back up available, you don’t need some politician judging wither or not you complied with there idea of political correctness.

    • james

      but Maricopa county is NOT a small community, and the sherrif dept has more officers than the LA sheriff.
      this makes your comment moot.
      oh and by the way, if the MCSO hadnt had 2 decades of civil rights violations piled up against it, there would be no need of a monitor now would it?

      • Devil’s Advocate

        Right, Phoenix is not a small community. However larger communities have much higher crime rates than the smaller ones. Often times the larger communities don’t have enough in the line of police and sheriffs to handle the quantity and scope of the crimes committed. Harsher treatment right off the bat for a crime committed instead of this “we’ll give this person another chance (and another and another) before we put them in an intervention program” mentality. How is that working? I don’t know about you but when I was a kid and I did something wrong, I had a harsh punishment. I didn’t do that action again. Most people I know feel the same way. It worked then, why can’t it work now?

  • Connie

    The Sheriff enforces law and order? What about the over 400 cases of sexual assault, some of them on children, that were not thoroughly investigated because deputies were too busy stopping Hispanic looking individuals who were not commiting crimes? I am Hispanic, born in this country, a citizen, with parents who worked long and hard to better our lives. Such ignorance as I am seeing in these comments is horrifying and sad. Arizona deserves better than this ego-inflated pretense of a sheriff. I respect police officers and the job they do, when they are allowed to do their jobs.

    • Doc Vega

      Connie I advise you to stop sexually assaulting all those children then! What you think the sheriffs are doing this you brain dead excuse for a female?

      • http://www.brspecial.com Ken Curtis

        People like ‘Doc Vega’ seem to be the type that support this sheriff. Dumb, dumber and dumbest is the only criteria for being an Arpaio fan. Arizona is going to need to build one of the Sheriff Joe style camps for all his mentally challenged followers. (I lived in Phoenix for over a decade and witnessed first hand the type of supporters this nazi cop has and they are a scary bunch of half wits) Good luck Maricopa county residents – you vote for him – you deserve him.

        • Sam

          Wait, wait, wait,
          Dumb, dumber, and dumbest. Uh no, that would be the uneducated, dope pushing, dope abusing, sit on butt and do nothing (even though they are perfectly capable), EBT card, food stamp receiving leaches who keep voting for the liberals who keep taking the hard earned money of the American Workers and passing it out to lazy bums.
          NOTE: there are those who need this help, but the percentage is about 1/4 of the number who are actually on it. Just my humble opinion which has only my eyes and experience dealing with these people to back it up.

      • Mike

        nice retort, this proves that the average joe supporter is an ignorant redneck with no sense of nobility and an inability to hold an argument without stooping to such depths. bravo, sir… bravo.

    • Rob

      Connie, Do you ride around with guns and drugs in your car ? The people the cops are crime profiling DO ! Cops just don’t waste there time pulling someone over just because they are a minority. Its because the mannerisms, body language and appearance exhibited by a person leads the cops to believe something illegal is going on. Just as a normal person does in day to day encounters with people they don’t know. Its there job. Deal with it

  • KKL

    This guy is doing nothing more than making this country a better place all he is doing is preventing illegal immigrants from coming to this country and keeping them from getting hand outs while us hard working Americans work hard to get what we need and want in life also Sheriff Joe makes his jails the way jail should be, if the rest of our jails in this country were more like the ones he created the crime in this county would take a huge plunge who would want to suffer from hot heat and sleep with no pillows and eat bologna sandwiches for breakfast lunch and dinner everyday he gives the prisoners exactly what they deserve he is about saving tax dollars and sheriff joe is looking out for the hard working tax paying americans this guy should run for president he tells it like it is and does not welcome the illegal immigrants ROCK ON SHERIFF JOE

    • Doc Vega

      KKL you got it Bro!

    • james

      says the person who hasnt been stopped for simply being of a hispanic ethnicity.

      not to mention that most of those “prisoners” are in fact pre trial detainies who have not been convicted of a crime.

      as far as saving tax dollars. maybe you should research his record. he had to pay back the county 10k for his “obama” probe and he only did that when the tax payers forced him to do so.
      with that said, the county has spent over 50 million dollars in simply DEFENDING against the multitude of lawsuits filed against the sheriff dept and that is not counting the payoff and the insurance premiums. the Insurance company raised the county’s deductible from 1 mil to 5 mil because of the amounts of payoff it had to make.

      • Devil’s Advocate

        Yeah, thanks to the ACLU and their ilk.

  • JOJO

    Joe deserves credit the guy is 81 years old and is still torturing scumbag criminals and illegal immigrants most 81 year old people are like fuck it im old im gonna die soon so what happens happens I lived my life NOT SHERIFF JOE he still enforcing the laws and locking scumbags up and throwing away the keys

  • weonlywantbutterbeans

    Joe is a HERO!!!! They come here in droves because their country doesn’t want the them and they come here yelling how great Mexico is ????? I don’t plan on ever learning about or how they speak. This is the USA we want good food not watered down beans and lord knows what they put in the meat. Lets take back our country and let Uncle Sam give a kick in there ass all the way back over the boarder.

    • http://yahoo Tony

      Take back what country Kimosave? USA is made up of Inmigrants is it not? or your ancestors all of the sudden show up from nowhere??

  • james koehler

    mine the border

  • Jim

    I was not aware that a small group of Latinos could claim their constitutional rights were violated. If it is so bad here go back to Mexico and see how your rights work out down there!

    • Mike

      so your suggestion is to stay here and be degraded and spat upon at every opportunity? great argument you got there.

  • Rob

    Guess who commits a very LARGE percentage of crime ? The people who they are accused of profiling. It not racial profiling, its crime profiling. Its hard to blame the cops. Its there job. Americans have decided they are tired of the huge rise in violent and property crimes. Its very sad that it has come to this. Unfortunately its become a necessary evil. Welcome to the 21st Century

    • http://yahoo Tony

      To your surprise and probably to most americans will find hard to believe that the majority are of mexican americans living in these states (New Mexico, Texas,Arizona, etc). Born and raised here but of mexican descent are the ones making these legitimate complaint.

      • AL

        Then they should support the sheriff. They will be less confused with the illegals in the long run if they support him. They are not being profiled because they are Mexican.
        They are being profiled because most of the criminals ARE illegal and/or Mexican: cartels, drug dealers, rapists, murderers, etc. etc. etc. Give the sheriff some credit. He knows what the score is.If legals support the illegals, what does that really say? What is it they really want? Perhaps they should help the sheriff? They may be citizens, but they are not acting like AMERICANS. They are just adding fuel to the fire and causing more discord.
        That is why they also appear to be trying to take the states back for Mexico from the inside. If this is not so, then they should shut up and support him.

    • jackie

      I do agree.

  • curt

    I didnt know that if you are here illegally you had any constitutional rights other than the right to be deported back where you came from.If they want constitutional rights let them strive for them in Mexico.

  • Alan

    All you brainiacs that want to deport the immigrants back to Mexico, better be ready to pay 3 to 4 times as much for your produce. Not very many Americans will ever do it for the same pay as these folks. Think I’m kidding? Research it and see for yourselves.

    • alcoholic_insight

      Hmm let’s see, pricier lettuce in return for not having to pay for all the illegals food stamps, healthcare, etc? Sounds good to me… I won’t be able to get a pinata at the flea market, but I think I’ll manage somehow.

      • Mike

        you forgot to factor in nannies, lawn care, mechanics, ALL produce (not just lettuce,) any place that employs janitors will mark-up all prices, fees, etc. most states that have passed reform against illegal immigrants have seen many jobs open up, yet nobody is willing to work these jobs due to their poor pay and extreme difficulty (try bending and scooping for 8-10 hours a day 6 days a week.) now go ahead and thumb me down. ignorant fools.

        • Bulldog

          Mike, I won’t stoop to name calling as you do, but I have no problem deflecting your flimsy position. The point is that without the illegal flow of aliens, primarily Mexican, all the crime, interracial conflict, and other negative impacts that it brings would not exist. Think about it man. How would you feel if the impact of illegal aliens were to hit you a little closer to home? What if, with government support, a family of them, unable to communicate with you because they don’t speak English, were allowed to suddenly occupy a couple rooms in your house to live in; to eat what food they needed from your refrigerator and pantry; to receive medical care at your direct expense; to drive your car and have YOU responsible for the cost of an accident they might cause? And then, what if one of them were involved in some kind of criminal activity that brought other such individuals to your doorstep? All this is already happening, albeit just a few steps further away from you. You are already feeling these same impacts from illegal aliens, but for some reason, you refuse to acknowledge it. The burden of an uneducated, poverty stricken, unskilled and illiterate population of illegal aliens, some of whom are criminals, is an incredible burden on U.S. citizens. You speak of the cheap labor that they provide. Indeed, they will work for so little that a head of lettuce (and, as you say, all produce) is cheaper than it would be otherwise. And yes, they provide other dirt cheap services such as nannys, and other manual labor jobs. You think this is good. I think it is not good because it diminishes the value of those jobs. Those jobs SHOULD be paying more, and if they did, there would not be a problem filling them. Without illegal aliens, salaries for these jobs would have to rise, as they should, if employers want those jobs done. Higher prices? Sure. When have prices ever NOT gone up? A few years ago, I could fill a grocery bag for $10; now it costs me $30. I won’t even talk about the increased cost of gasoline the past several years. In a nutshell, the economics of the population of illegal aliens in this country are anything but favorable. One last point. Many will take issue with my use of the term illegal alien. rather than undocumented immigrant. One who is in this country and not a U.S. citizen is legally referred to as alien. An alien who is not in the U.S. legally is referred to as an illegal alien. They are what they are, and if they want to be called otherwise, there are legal channels to accomplish that.

      • GiGi

        I agree I had rather pay for higher produce or grow my own than to pay for SS benefits, food stamps and housing for an illegal person that should not be here. I think we would have some extra money somewhere without the outlay of those funds. Some US citizens who need the SS cant get it but folks who have never worked here legally can, how grand is that?

        • doninks

          What a load of nonsense. You do realize that if they are here illegally, they cannot collect SS. Besides, even if they could most of them do pay into it. That is the injustice, they pay into it, but can’t collect anything. And I have not heard of anyone who is legitimately eligible for SS not being able to get it. I have heard of lots of scammers who try, but get caught in their scam though.

      • ArbyBrown

        I’m sure you know that undocumented immigrants do not receive welfare or social security or healthcare. What you get is the benefit of billions of dollars they contribute to the US economy.

        As for your pinata, just reach around and pull it out of your backside.

        • Frank

          Ilegals to get health care by going to emergency rooms.By law,they have to be treated.

    • Devil’s Advocate

      That is fine, I can always eat something else. I am not forced (yet) into eating anything that I don’t want to.

    • Gail

      Sounds like good jobs for our criminal populations, especially the white collar types – Might also help the able-bodied folk on welfare to keep occupied and teach self respect like the old 1930′s programs. They built parks and roads that now need repair/replacement. Many details to work out but maybe worth the effort?? A built in work force!

  • http://www.gerriwilliams.com Gerri Williams

    Perhaps this sheriff has overstayed his welcome. I would hate to think that my grandchildren who’s dad is Mexican could be detained for nothing more than their color or culture. And to those of you who praise him…do your research..you may find that you would not want to be on his wrong side color or not. Sheriff’s that think they are God should remember that they are nothing more than babysitters we the law abiding citizens vote him in and pay him so all can be treated and protective fairly. He can be replaced,

    • warren garrison

      apparently like most Liberals with your Ritalin Time Out pathetic excuse of disciplining, you haven’t a clue as to what is going on. First of all, ALL who pass through these drug corridors moving their drugs THAT EVENTUALLY WILLS REACH YOUR GRANDCHILDREN YOU SPEAK OF, aren’t Jamaicans, they aren’t Irish, they aren’t Canadians or French, or anything but Mexicans. The largest % of vehicles stolen are stolen by Mexicans and taken to Mexico, or ushered into Chop shops around the area. I need no more evidence that you people are just damn fools, bottom line, case closed BUT hey, the flooding in of people with nothing more than the clothes on their backs, no money, no job, no transportation, will soon catch with you and yours and you’ll wish this country had more people like Joe Arpaio. His people have been shot at AND shot and yet you morons beat and bash his efforts continually, WHY? Simple, you’re stupid as hell.

    • http://Yahoo Darrell

      True,,,we do vote him in…and he keeps getting re-elected. So.,..he IS doing the work of the people. And the judge…is elected as well….I am thinking the judge that monitor the sherrif…may not win the next election. If you have nothing to hide….why worry about being asked for identification?

      • libertyanne

        Is your last name Issa? How would YOU like to be treated like a criminal just because you happen to be living with dark skin?

      • Jonathan Jones

        Federal Judges are appointed to office for life by the Senator of their area, and then approved by the entire Senate. The President often plays a large role. Although these jobs are very significant in the scheme of political patronage,the candidates are generally very qualified.

        Unfortunately, this entire issue has become blurred by extremist views on both sides of the issue. Overall, there seems to be an absence of political will on either side of the isle in Congress to take control of the problem; the Democrats view the Hispanic population as key voting block for many generations to come and quite frankly, the Republicans have become dependent on the cheap labor pool. When I say “cheap”, I mean people that will work long hours in harsh conditions for $7 an hour as “1099 independent contractors”.

        I moved to Houston from the Northeast a few years ago and was surprised by the large number of Hispanics, many of whom entered illegally. I have found many of them to be decent hard working people who are simply trying to escape the abject poverty they were born into in Mexico or elsewhere in South America. But for accident of birth, you or I could be in the same position and would likely be trying to get to the US any way we could. Ironically, many of them are quite conservative in their viewpoints on social-political issues.

        That being said, we still have a huge problem here and it is growing daily. You have to ask yourself : “What becomes of these people when they can no longer work, due to age or illness?”. Their children born here will have become “Americanized” and will look to Social Security. Medicare and Medicaid for the support of their parents. There will be no pensions and no medical insurance. As it is now, the ER at LBJ Hospital and the like is often the answer for medical care. These expenses will skyrocket and to some extent, this has already started to happen. There is also a question as to exactly how much this “ethnic block” is contributing to the schools, police force and public services which they currently use, and in some cases over-use.

        As a civilized society, what are we going to do? Drag them to the border and throw them over the fence, just because they cannot work 48 hours a week in the hot sun for $7 an hour anymore? That strikes me as both unfair and just plain mean spirited, yet I believe that many of their current “employers” would do just this in a heartbeat, if asked to contribute to the cost of their long term care.

        These are not problems that will not just work themselves out. They get worse every day, not better. “Sheriff Joe” is likely very frustrated with the circumstances he finds himself in. If many of these people are here illegally, what is he supposed to do? He sees a very complex and complicated job in front of him – one that is almost impossible to do. Yes, he could act more politically correct, but let’s not fault him for honesty.

        After all, his actions actually have some of us thinking and talking about an issue that is usually ignored. The current administration wants to make it easier to “mainstream” the illegal immigrants, hopefully putting them on the grid as far as paying taxes, voting and buying health insurance. There is a concurrent push to raise the minimum wage substantially, which goes in lock step with these other issues. The problem is though that the employers that employ them and people who hire them to cut the grass or paint the house, likely will not want to utilize their services on this basis, as the cost will go up significantly.

        America has to take a cold, hard look at these issues and make tough decisions on our country’s immigration policy that will stabilize, and to some extent reverse (yes, some will have to go back and not return) what has been going on for decades. Until that occurs, these side shows with “Sheriff Joe vs The Federal Judge” will continue and America will become polarized on these issues, opening the way for fanatics on either side of the issue to take control, for the simple reason that the majority of people in the middle did nothing when they had the opportunity.

        • Bulldog

          Jonathan, you did a really fantastic job sizing up the scope of this complex issue. However, I was unable to give you a thumbs-up or down because all you really did was succinctly define what the problems are. You didn’t offer specific remedies. You did say,”…the majority of people in the middle did nothing when they had the opportunity.” Give us some meat to chew on. What do YOU think the majority of people in the middle SHOULD do?

  • Al Dunaway

    Well ain’t it just funny how the liberals will dog Sheriff Joe, but New York City, that liberal bastion, has an enforced policy to stop and frisk blacks, but that’s ok because they are “targeting criminals”. Too f-ing funny if you ask me.

    • james

      now you are sounding foolish. organizations have been against stop and frisk for more than a decade. and in cae you dont watch the news, about 3 weeks ago it was found unconstitutional and like arpiao, the NYPD now has a monitor

  • Charles Baker

    I think that latinos and blacks should get shipped back to Korea.

    • Bob Saget

      Funny

    • Patricia

      This Maron, haven’t a clue,. Maybe everyone should go back to their native home,, I know the Indians would be glad to get their home back,,,the USA,,,So long Charles Baker,, I’m sure you aren’t Indian

      • scram

        If Indian ancestors originally came from Asia how can they be native American? Wouldn’t that make them Asian American?

      • Sam

        ummm it is Native American you insensative nincumpoop

      • libertyanne

        Maybe Arpaio should go back to Italy with his fancy spaghetti name.

        • L. Bowser

          Arpaio is of Mexican heritage, not Italian.

      • Gail

        Playing with Ancestry.com I find 21 countries in my genes mostly Euro but including Spain & American Indian and, as before noted, the Indians came over from Asia – Spain was overrun by North African Muslims (amid much bloodshed) who were stopped and driven back by Charles “The Hammer” Martel.
        I have two female ancestors who were caucasian captives ergo
        slave/concubines. I do not blame my shortcomings on their enslavement. The American indians also had slaves. Get over it! Some ancestors were good, some not so much but most worked hard, and some fought and died for their families.
        I do not object to airport security measures nor should anyone object to similar measures where there is probable reason to be extra careful.

        • Alan

          You really should take a history class. Once you have, come back and correct the obvious mistakes you made in that ridiculous post. SMFH!

    • Ocean 34

      If your paying, i would love a trip to Korea, as long as it isn’t N. Korea. Hey, what’s the good thing about Korea? There aren’t any $hit-kicking rednecks like Charles Baker!

  • Mike

    well of course Arpaio doesn’t want to be monitored while his department makes their arrests. everyone in his department knows the drill and any outsiders would just interfere with their pesky facts and civil liberties.

  • CynLee

    …for enforcing the law against illegal immigration; because illegal immigrants are at least 99% Hispanic and he was checking Hispanics. Just want to ‘refresh’ the memory on what life was like before the ‘Mad Emperor’ & his insane cohorts took over the Country and started to ‘brain-warp’ the citizens via T.V. & Computer Media…

    • http://yahoo Tony

      I dont think you guys get the point of what profiling is. You are getting stopped not because you’re speeding or braking the law. You are being singled out because of your race. Do that to a black person or an asian and would sitll have the same complaint. Stop celebrating the fact that police need to do their jobs the wrong way. The law is the law. If Latinos are committing crimes is fine to go after them, but to stop them for any reason is just absurd.

  • ? l

    Ok, well Mexicans do commit almost all the crime there. Really they do, not too many Norwegians or Canadians robbing, raping, and shooting. It’s a huge huge effing problem.

  • Peter

    funny stuff – a hard nosed cop gets beat down for working hard to control immigration law in an area overrun with illegal immigrants … hmmm thats probably some kind of hypocrisy, so here we go take down the one sheriff that has actually made a difference in how to deter this type of behavior. Instead of a giving the guy a medal they want to take away his badge, where has this country gone to besides just making peace with everyone. Talk about hypocrisy… you have to be laughing at the irony that this guy has created too much structure and somehow the US Gov’t wants to blow it all up because they are afraid of bad press … how many illegals receive free medical attention, how many are in our jails, in the mix for unemployment benefits, SS checks, selling drugs, and being overall great models of society. Hey I love mexican people and those that come from any country legally and try hard to cherish the opportunities they have here, but if I get pulled over I had better have my ID and life in order- just like anyone else, at anytime… for instance at our mandatory DUI check points. Please get a clue and get over the persecution of one law official I actually think is doing some good.

    • gary

      excellent response Peter, the state is largely Hispanic who do they want him to arrest? The Dutch?

    • Chris

      It’s funny how they say there constitutional rights were violated,(illegals). But isn’t the constitution just a g-damn piece of paper! I mean it doesn’t adhere to U.S. citizens,why can it apply to them?

    • Gail

      We have some very nice hispanic neighbors (LEGAL) but were victimized -Identity Theft (big time) by “persons” from Miami.
      My question is – Is it self defense or suicide if I find and eliminate them myself having no Arizona Joe to protect little old lady me??
      Hypothetical question of course!

    • Alan

      Peter said: “how many illegals receive free medical attention, in the mix for unemployment benefits, SS checks”
      Answer is: NONE
      But hey, don’t let the facts get in the way of a good bullsht story…right?

  • StandandDeliver

    Wow ! I guess the haters of Mexicans commenting are White people. And most likely you have a relative that hires Mexicans. The majority of Mexicans living in the U.S. are working for White people. So you don’t have to look too far or need a sheriff to find them. Just go visit an Uncle !

    • Douglas

      This isn’t about rather or not anyone hates Mexicans…it is about right from wrong. It is wrong to jump ahead of others to get what you want out of life, and Illegals have done that and then ask that our Government protect them from being placed at the back of the line where they belong…or back into their country where they came to steal our community services, our community employment, and our laws to hold people responsible for their actions against others within the community!

      This is America, and because of our loving nature, people like to assume it is a weakness…and try to take advantage of it.

      So this Judge may place a person in the sheriff’s office to keep this Police Officer from doing his job without first getting the monitor’s permission…is nothing more than a ploy to get back at this Sheriff for going after the illegals at any level of our Government…Obama pay back you might say!

    • Johnnybitchin

      Relations with Sheriff Joe and the Hispanic community would improve if all the Illegals would go home and the Gangbangers would disband….but how is easy is that?…Keep up the good work..

  • George

    If 80% (made up) of the criminals are white/black/or latino, doesn’t make sense that 80% of the suspects are the same?!!!

    • ArbyBrown

      The majority of criminals and people in US prisons are white. For gods sake try posting something factual instead of parroting tea party talking points.

      • @Arby

        People don’t know facts about what they are talking about. They just give opinions.

        It is like the statistic that America has 25% of the world’s prison population. This is so well documented. Books have been written about this. Heck, an idiot can Google it in 2 seconds Yet, morons on here swear that the statistic is wrong.

        Americans live in a dream world where they make things up to suit themselves or their views.

  • seth

    Googled Judge Murray Shaw, searched in Wikipedia, and came up empty. Who is this person. Wiki covers all federal judges.

    • seth

      My bad. It is Snow.

    • Cw527

      Try Snow instead of Shaw, better results.

  • Thomas

    The idiot in the white house and his flunky attorney general have a personal agenda against sheriff Joe. Perhaps the Arrogant lying excuse for a president and AG ,who private firm defends militant muslim, follow the US Constitution .
    The country is in deep trouble with 5 years of unemployment, foreclosures, price escalation,Illegal Immigration, Obamacare, ambassador killed in Benghazi, Egyptian boondoggle,IRS coverup, fast & Furious, racial unrest, inability to work with congress and on and on.
    Sheriff Joe can learn from NYC police commissioner Kelly how to handle the limousine liberals and kool-aide drinkers

    • Lady

      You can say what you want, the bottom line is President Obama is still the head men in charge. Go over it and move on. If he was not doing his job he would not have gotten re-elected.
      Black man in charge, whip your butt and move over, there is nothing you can do to change it. What he say rules!!!
      Get a box of tissue, wipe your eyes, ore butt and get ovet it.

      • Winston

        At best, Obama is an illegitimately elected president. He was never vetted as to his meeting the Constitutional qualifications to be a presidential candidate, yet he was allowed to be placed on the national ballot…then the socialist/Facists filled ballot boxes with bogus ballots while the Republicants put up loser candidates. It’s all a grand conspiracy to destroy the American Constitution and Bill of Rights of legal citizens and destroy national sovereignty.

      • Man

        First off it’s NOT Go over it’s Get over!
        Second BLACK Man in Charge Why do you have to pull a race card? Black White regardless DO YOU FRICKEN JOB!
        News Flash THE BLACK ISN’T! SO get a fricken life.
        Oh yea! I doubt a LOT OF PEOPLE WILL VOTE LIKE THAT AGAIN….

    • jackie

      TO THOMAS!!!!!

      Where have you been- United States was screwed 2002,2004. Remember that when you make your assessment of who is responsible for what is happening, and do not forget that GOOD BOYS CLUB that is running this world.

      • Winston

        It goes back before those dates. It goes back to the presidency of GHW Bush (the elder) and America has been slow eroding since.

  • Edward

    You know it cost me over $10,000 and 18 months of paperwork to bring my family here from another country, so does all this mean that I get a refund? If some people are allowed to enter “the wrong way” why can’t all be allowed? Lets get real, if it’s fair for one then it should be fair for all. I don’t care where you come from as long as you did it the correct way, if not, then didn’t you break the law and should you not have to pay for it?

  • Michael DeRhone

    This is a not too transparent move to punish him and those citizens who refuse to give up on the Obama birth issue. For any reasonably intelligent adult to think otherwise is ludicrous. It is not about race it is about law. Perhaps Obama and his minions should enforce all of our laws, not just the ones they approve of. And another thing, Obama and Holder should rescind all of their policies and directives that contravene law.

    • Lady

      Blame everything on Obama, the one that does that are the ones that does not have an opinion for them.
      For once it is not a BLACK person, but hey the President is black why not blame him.
      Your opinion is just like a butt, everyone has one, and most are still full of shi*
      Lack of education, always shows.

  • Thomas

    the looney left will any and everything to screw with him. they have a loooooooooooong record of that

  • Reality

    Joe is simply crazy. Any sane person can see that. How many lives has he destroyed due to his craziness? If he acts this crazy in front of cameras, what is he doing behind the scenes when no one is watching? How many people has he hurt and lives has he destroyed?

    I hear all these people saying God Bless Joe. Well, Joe would have deported Mary and Joseph when they were fleeing. He would have gave them back to the very people that were trying to kill Jesus. After all, they were illegals.

    Also, God doesn’t care about what country you are from. It is not relevant to God. Try using the “I am an American” excuse on God when you die. Also, he doesn’t care about man’s law. He fundamentally knows that man’s law is corrupt. After all, man’s law killed his son who was completely innocent.

    • Sean Thorton

      Religious fanatics that didn’t want to lose their power killed Jesus. Pilot tried to let him but the yelled crucify him! crucify him!

      • @Sean

        All pilot had to do was let Christ go. It was that simple.

        You don’t think that happens today? The police going along with the mob mentality? Our prisons are full of innocent people.

        Fool yourself if you want, but trust me, if you ever get arrested for anything, you will see just how bad the system is. It simply will not matter if you are innocent or guilty.

    • Frank

      Mary And Joseph were not fleeing anything.They went to pay there taxes.

      • @Frank

        I guess Herod just wanted to say happy birthday to Christ huh? Mary and Joseph most certainly fled. The most certainly were immigrants.

        Both would be very disappointed in the way we treat immigrants.

  • BillB

    He is the last of the MEN will balls and they will replace him with a sheep that will curtail to all the trash invading OUR AMERICA!

    • Charlie

      That’s just what Geronimo said

  • http://yahoo BILL

    IMPEACH OBAMA ELECT JOE ARPAIO FOR PRESIDENT MAYBE THEN THINGS WILL TURN AROUND IN WASHINGTON THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS NEED TO SEEK OTHER EMPLOYMENT THEY ARE NOT DOING VERY WELL AT THIS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK JOE

    • @Bill

      You would have more of a police state than already exists in America. We are not the land of the free.

      • Robert

        Have you been to Mexico, how about Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, The Emirates, China? you want to talk police state? you do Not want to get arrested in these countries. Think Globally, not locally. We are still the Land of the Free. We can no longer allow our borders to be non-existent when it comes to allowing people to come here and stay. BTW, you don’t want to get caught in any of these countries that I mentioned and many more that I didn’t without proper documentation. The US by far is the country that if you were illegal, would be the place to get caught. I have been stopped in many of these countries just to check my papers. Thankfully they have been proper.

    • tommy

      You have to make it all CAPITAL letters because you’re so small, as is your opinion.

    • Kenneth

      Enjoyed your comment, finally some one that could comment with out going into the gutter.

    • I eat your puny arguments for breakfast

      Good work??? Like arresting a 9 year old girl??? I guess he is somewhat of a fools hero…

    • Ocean 34

      Immigrants aren’t as big of an issue as you make it seem. Congress can focus its efforts on other things that can help bring this nation and its people back up. Things like job creation, or trying to put an end to corporate greed by way of outsourcing. What have Mexicans done to you, other than raise your children and clean your toilets, build your houses, streets, bridges…ect? Joe would make a horrible president, the world would hate the US even more than they already do. It’s like this, no more honkies in the white house! White people are okay, but honkies need not apply!

      • Robert

        I realize that The U.S. is thought of as a beacon of hope to the down trodden. Somehow we have changed from a welcome beacon to a”what can you do foe me” country. There are over 4 million people who want to come here Legally. There are over 11 million here Illegally. Why did they come here illegally? Was it because they were doctors, lawyers, teachers? Were they persecuted in their home country or were they under educated and poor. Why didn’t they stay in their country and try to make changes.

        The U.S. is suppose to be a God Believing, Law Abiding people. What part of Illegal makes it legal to be here. Yes many came here and worked menial jobs that were very hard on the body and many Americans did not want to do. If the grower had offered a wage that a person could support himself or a family, they might have found Americans to do the work. They chose not to do it and there was a market for Illegals to better themselves. In our history, the blacks were the forced labor that were brought to this country. Almost every ethnic group that has Legally Emigrated to the U.S. at some point was the nigger of society, The Italians,Irish,Jews,and many more. They educated themselves, they learned the language, they assimilated into society but they came here legally. What makes America what it was, simply they became Americans. There were no utility bills printed in multiple languages. You had to learn English, You weren’t forbidden from speaking your native language in and amongst your families and friends. Today we offer teaching in multiple languages and do not require you to become Americans. Our Motto means essentially from many we have become one. If your argument is why should you give up your heritage to live in the U.S. You don’t have to, but you cannot continue to live your heritage. If you love your heritage that much then perhaps the U.S. isn’t the country for you.

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