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Is Bing Right About People Getting “Scroogled” By Google?

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This week, Bing launched an attack campaign against Google, called “Don’t Get Scroogled“. It’s a dig at Google Shopping, the product of Google’s recent transition from the free-to-list product search offering to a paid inclusion, ad-based Google Shopping model. Bing insists “Scroogled” is about Scrooge, rather than implying that people are getting “screwed by Google,” as the word would suggest, and as the Urban Dictionary definition would imply. Right.

Either way, that makes little difference, as the message would essentially be the same. Is Bing right? Are users getting “Scroogled” by Google? Let us know what you think.

Google’s move to the paid inclusion model of Google Shopping has certainly not been without its controversy. Most of this, however, has stemmed from businesses who aren’t happy with the move. Bing’s campaign is painting the whole thing as harmful to consumers (go figure, given Microsoft’s participation in efforts to pressure regulators in antitrust matters regarding Google). But do users really feel they’re being harmed by this model?

“Specifically, we want to alert you to what Google has done with their shopping site right in time for Christmas,” explains Bing’s Chief Marketing Officer and Corporate Vice President, Mike Nichols. “Instead of showing you the most relevant shopping search results for the latest coffee maker you’re looking to buy mom, Google Shopping now decides what to show you – and how prominently to display what product offers they show — based partially on how much the merchant selling the product has paid them. Merchants can literally pay to improve their chances to display their product offers higher than others inside of Google’s shopping ‘search,’ even if it’s not better or cheaper for the consumer. The result of this new ‘pay-to-rank’ system is that it’s easy for consumers to mistake an ad for an honest search. That’s not right, it’s misleading. It’s not what you expect from search, and it’s not how we at Bing think search engines should help consumers get the best prices and selection when shopping.”

“In short, we think that too many shoppers who use Google for their shopping searches are getting ‘Scroogled’ when they should be getting fair, honest, open search. It’s like Ebenezer Scrooge met Google Shopping. We think consumers should be aware what they’re seeing when they’re shopping online and to understand, without any hidden text or traps, the fine print of what their ‘search engine’ actually searches.”

Despite these comments, Bing was almost immediately blasted in the tech media for its own Shopping results.

“Bing, after all, recently partnered with eBay’s Shopping.com,” writes Frederic Lardinois at TechCrunch. “While Bing previously allowed merchants to submit their own feeds for inclusion, the company now says that it is ‘not accepting new merchants for this program.’ Instead, Bing says, merchants should work with Shopping.com. One of the reasons for this according to Bing is that ‘paid offers will be highlighted throughout Bing Shopping, including search result and product pages.’”

You don’t say.

Similarly, search industry vet Danny Sullivan covered the story under the headline, “Bing Attacks Google Shopping With ‘Scroogled’ Campaign, Forgets It’s Guilty Of Same Problems.

Lardinois also shares a statement from Bing’s senior director, Stefan Weitz: “Bing includes millions of free listings from merchants and rankings are determined entirely by which products are most relevant to your query. While merchants can pay fees for inclusion on our 3rd party shopping sites and subsequently may appear in Bing Shopping through partnerships we have, we do not rank merchants higher based on who pays us, nor do we let merchants pay to have their product offers placed higher in Bing Shopping’s search results.”

Google has said that ranking is based on a combination of relevance and bid price.

“Google now wants to break the rules that made it a trusted brand,” says Nichols. “They argue that the difference between answers and ads is shrinking. ‘After all,’ they recently said, ‘ads are just more answers to users’ queries.’”

“Shoppers visit the site they have used for years, conduct what they think is a ‘search,’ and get a set of rankings that look like the objective results Google delivers elsewhere,” he says. “Meanwhile, the lawyers at Google are now calling it a ‘listing.’ They even call out – hidden behind a disclaimer or buried in a footer — ‘Payment is one of several factors used to rank these results.’ Consumers are potentially getting a raw deal because ‘relevance’ is now influenced by how much Google is getting paid, not just by things that matter to shoppers. We, of course, accept enhanced listings and advertisements just like other search engines. But at Bing, we just feel Google should distinguish ads clearly from search results and not use payment as a factor in ranking shopping search results.’”

On Google’s regular search results pages, when Shopping results do appear, they are clearly marked as “sponsored”. It is true that any disclaimer is a little less obvious when you actually go to Google Shopping, the destination. This disclaimer Nichols mentioned is found if you click on the link at the top of Shopping search results page, which says, “Why these products?”

It probably doesn’t help Google’s case that there is a set of more traditional-looking search ads at the bottom, which say something like, “Ads related to waffle irons”.

But on the other hand, I’m not sure consumers have ever cared so much about whether or not product search results were paid inclusion or not. It would be interesting to know how many shoppers are starting their product searches from the Google Shopping destination anyway. If you search for “waffle irons” on Google.com (which seems like a far more likely scenario than starting from google.com/shopping – even if you search Google for “Google shopping” you’re taken to google.com/ads/shopping), the top results are ads, followed by a set of results from Google Shopping, which are clearly marked as sponsored. The first organic results take you to places like Amazon, BestBuy, Bed, Bath & Beyond, etc.

Google, of course, maintains that the paid inclusion model works better for quality of results.

“We believe that having a commercial relationship with merchants will encourage them to keep their product information fresh and up to date,” said Sameer Samat, Vice President of Product Management, Google Shopping. “Higher quality data—whether it’s accurate prices, the latest offers or product availability—should mean better shopping results for users, which in turn should create higher quality traffic for merchants.”

It’s worth noting that Google is already losing shopping-related searches to Amazon (which has not participated in the new Google Shopping, but is usually easily found in top Google search results for products).

We’ve discussed the issues businesses have with Google Shopping multiple times in the past. That’s one thing. As a consumer, do you think you’re betting “Scroogled” by Google Shopping? Will you use Bing Shopping? Let us know in the comments.

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  • http://www.dailygrind.com Daily Grind

    I guess it was only a matter of time before Google started charging for shopping results, but it seems like it’s predominantly a profits-based decision. I think small businesses get the short end of the stick, but I’m not sure about shoppers, themselves.

  • Larry

    Definitely, Google letting merchants pay to rank makes their shopping comparison just ads basically. In fact many price comparison search results are in fact pay-to-rank searches. One price comparison that doesn’t let merchant pay to rank better is http://idealchooser.com whatever site you use, I suggest spending few minutes to read their policy and make sure you are getting fair unbiased results. You’ll be surprised how many of the big names use that unfair strategy to make more money, ending up not giving the best results to the users.

  • Lester

    It is just more of the “do as we say…” crap, from Google.

  • DrJLD

    I do NOT trust companies who attack other companies negatively instead of selling their own services positively. It smacks of desperation.

    Since Bing is guilty of the same practices it complains about, the hypocrisy is to much evident here for my old-fashioned tastes.

    I do not use shoppers’ searches anyway. I find that using google.com to search brings me very satisfying results.

  • Delta

    Right. Shhot the messenger. Whatever MS may have done doesnt diminish googles errors.

  • ScottDeaver

    Of course, anything skewing search expectations in exchange for cash is dishonest. People using Google searches are expecting relevance, price, quality, how other purchaser’s were treated, support, and even geography for brick and mortar suppliers long before they care about how much money Google (or Bing, for that matter) made posting the ad.

    We all know these things at some level. The article and its attendant request for comments is little more than a means to trawl for rationalizations someone can sell to justify another East Indian reseller or Jewish banker indirectly extracting yet another buck out of the system dishonestly. Period. They’re going to do it anyway, regardless what is said here, and Bing is merely posturing for its eventual statement that will go something like this, “We tried to fight the good fight, but we’re the underdogs, and so to survive we need to do the same sleazy behaviors as we claim they’re doing (and which in fact we’ve also been doing, but less successfully)”. American greed, American grease, American sleaze… what amazing concepts…

  • http://www.windowsxpslowstartup.how-do-you-do.info Wilf Staton

    Well I guess this is just right for Google. Here we are where website owners are being screwed and penalized because of none relevant content and yet Google more or less saying “do what we say not what we do” How two faced can one get.

    Personally as soon as people find they are not getting what they search for from their shopping site they will turn away.

  • Ernest Marx

    You people are all the same, you are grown ups and can do what you like and buy where you want, but heaven forbid a hugely successful company like Google does something in the interest of their own business and you jump all over them. I think they know what they are doing, considering the fact that they are a huge company with massive influence. They innovate on a regular basis, we would be worse off without them. Do people even use Bing? I personally would rather use Firefox or phone a friend but Google gets my vote. Any company that works as hard as they do to innovate deserves to run the company as they see fit.

    • Roger

      +1

    • Delta

      Ok so firefox = phone a friend = google. I see why you never bother with the issue or bing.

  • http://www.enviroequipment.com Enviro Equipment Inc.

    I have mixed feelings about Bing going after Google Shopping. On the one hand, anything that knocks Google down a notch or two can only help competition. On the other hand, though, simply because Google shopping is now a paid inclusion rather than a freebie list doesn’t mean consumers are being harmed (i.e. “Scrooged”) or given less options.

    • http://gaycontentwriter.com Conran

      Sorry but you are wrong. A search engine is *supposed* to be impartial in principle, they are not supposed to be promoting one site over another or one product over another based on financial gain. It’s morally wrong, both for the consumer and the retailer.

      But regardless of the morality of it, it’s a bad decision because now buyers will lose trust in Google – that’s a good thing.

      If you said to a friend that you needed a new car, and could they recommend anything, you’d expect an honest opinion. You wouldn’t expect them to con you into buying trash because they made a deal with the seller and they get a cut of it.

      That person wouldn’t be a friend for very long. And because of this, Google will not be a friend to shoppers for very long either.

      And now for my usual little close whenever I comment on Google about anything… Google is a monopoly, it has to be broken up. No single company on Earth should be able to wield such power, able to destroy entire markets and wipe out complete businesses in a single keystroke.

      Forget the credit crunch, the biggest threat to global business in the last ten years has been Google. With one little change in an algorithm they could end an entire industry and put millions out of work.

      • http://www.usmilitaryhelicopters.org MIke

        Conran,

        The one thing you guys are missing is that most of the retailers in Google Shopping are all using the same exact merchant feeds. Same Pictures, Same Descriptions, etc. The only difference is whatever the vendor is charging for the product. If you are using Google Shopping, chances are you are looking for a particular item and the best price.

        A Google Shopping search isn’t a Search Engine search – ie research. They are two different animals.

        Plus, you can get listed in Google Shopping for pennies.

  • http://twitter.com/ojw_ottawa Alex

    I’m wondering what is the next domain left unmonetized by google… I think soon we will have memberships and plans for searches…
    Google is the most greedy company on the planet and the lack of competition is harming all of us…including the customers buying products from google shopping, which are now more expensive because google needs to take it’s share. In my country that is called protection fee, how is it in the US?

    • Guy

      it called pure mafia. It what is google right now.

  • Joons

    When this whole thing started I asked a few people about Google Shopping – none had heard of it – actually as an e-retailer I hadn’t given it any thought at all.
    I just went on there and it’s garbage for my business, the search terms I put in resulted in garbage results, whereas Google search returned relevant results.
    So to me People, it seems not only do not use it but they should avoid it!
    This is a non-issue as far as I can see.
    But let’s pile on Google, just after we piled on Microsoft, right after we piled on Facebook (now that was good and continues to be a deserved pile on!) right after we piled on etc etc.

  • http://hotcosta.com Pete Clark

    I don’t use Google search any more, due to the number of ads displayed. But I don’t like the tone of this article.

    It sounds like any political party in the world.
    “The Other People have done this, and that, and that…”

    I would have preferred to see
    “We are doing this, we have done that….”

    I hate greed, whether it comes from politicians, or companies that used to be search engines.

  • http://davidwein.com DW

    After years of creating original content and SEO, the Panda and Penguin updates have Scroogled our small time e-tailor sites. We followed the rules and our organic traffic was decent until Google changed the rules. Linking related content from our other sites was a way improve rank and offer relevant content at the same time but now Google says that’s “pyramiding”, and we were penalized and dropped to the bottom of page 2 which is like being on Mars. Despite what they say, Google robots don’t have a clue about distinguishing good content from bad. In our product line, I’m sure consumers are getting screwed and the Bing results are much better and more relevant.

  • http://australianbizdirectory.com.au/blog George

    My own way of looking at it is that Google migrating to paid search is not the paramount reason why consumers are short changed. It is the way they go about making the changes. We understand as a business you are there to make profit, but when you now wage a bidding war which is precisely what Google is doing. Then the businesses bidding to stay on top of Google’s ist page search ranking will inevitably add that cost to their bottom-line. And after this additional cost, it is not worth the effort. And the smaller business are getting screwed (Scrooged).

    • http://thewatchprince.com Doug

      It is Google’s business, and they can do what they want with it, charge what they want, etc. My big complaint is that they would be holding themselves out to the public as providing the most relevant results, when in fact, they are providing the highest-paid-for results.

      Basically, the “big guys” take (pay for) many of the top results, leaving the consumer with results that they would have thought of anyway. So, Google is not helping the consumer find a small business (that cannot afford to pay for shopping ads).

      It is all good marketing on Google’s part. As a small business owner who understands Google’s business model, it certainly makes me want to shop other places that provide more relevant results, rather than simply those who pay for placement.

      As it stands now, Google Shopping is just a picture form of AdWords. Again, that is their choice, but do shoppers know it?

  • http://www.netscype.com Netscype Gino

    Business is business,
    If i want to sell a product online, and i want to pay 100 000 dollars at google to be on top of all the ads, thats the point in selling products. If you want to buy cheaper, search the internet. Bing is wrong as always.

    Netscype Gino

    • Delta

      Except in the name of business if you mislead its not very ethical is it?
      “Bing is wrong as always” – guess you made up your mind already.

      • http://www.netscype.com Netscype Gino

        Before Google was Microsoft. Then Google came online and Microsoft felt behind, and is still behind. Google is doing business in your face. And people need to accept that Google is the way to go (for now). And about the ethical – what is misleading. If you want to place an ad in your local paper, you want your ad to be placed on the best spot. When it costs you 100% more to be on your best spot you will PAY to be on top.

  • http://www.captaincyberzone.com Cap’n Cyberzone

    Microsoft and Google are both birds of the same corporate feather and like Corporate-1 they’re only interested in “what’s in your wallet?”.

  • Bill

    It doesn’t necessarily mean consumers are being harmed but it does mean consumers are intentionally being misled, i.o.w. being lied to. Those who continue to defend Google need to comprehensively look at Google’s PR statements and potentially how they continue to contradict their practices.

    “do what we say not what we do” to me seems to be the tip of the iceberg, imo.

  • Bill

    Capn I’d take Microsoft any day of the week and twice on Sunday at this point…at least they’d have a lot more work to do before they ruled the internet. Google is just checking the time now.

  • http://saisrinivas.com Srinivas

    I think we are going to see more and more services of Google come under this model as competition rises and margins shrink. Innovation is the name of creating new products with better monetization. Neither MS or Google is going to give a free pie.

    Google is mammoth made by the consumers and it is only upon us to bring up its competition. So whether you like it or not, start using Bing or Ask or any other.

  • Tag A. Long

    The gist of the bing ads are correct, google has indeed pulled a bait and switch, morphing from search engine to advertising engine while pretending (with the aid of corrupt search engine media) that they are still “pure”.

  • http://www.shrinkwrapandstretchfilm.com Brent Roake

    I have thought for a long time that Google was taking advantage of their customers. We have moved the majority of our online advertising away from Google.

  • http://www.priceAgoody.com Keith

    with in my own research, Google search dose not get the job done. We just are not getting good quality information from Google. To Many Jack in the box markers throwing junk in the search engine. I think it stinks they are doing this move. Google is moving to retail side to make money. I really never liked Google ads. if its better in the long haul then they are up to something like changing a buying trend. Google has changed trends in the past. just bought social marketing software developer Wildfire and Zagetprice, FaceBook has the grip on self paid ads with in facebook, Google is following Facebook to get a piece of pie in plan words.

  • http://elainequinn.com Elaine Quinn

    Google has grown in leaps and bounds over the years. Maybe their new motto should be “There’s no need to be evil. We’ve done it for you.”

  • Ben

    I don’t trust Google much any more but would much rather use them then use the Microsoft’s Bing which to be fair I wouldn’t go near with a 30ft pole.

    Microsoft are getting more and more desperate it seems.

  • Ben

    Windows Vista & Windows 8 >= Scroocrosofted

  • Bill

    It is clear without a doubt that small businesses are upset with Google

    Many statements reiterate that Google can not be trusted
    and rightfully so

    Look at the number of small business that have lost their income and are now posting desperate please about bankruptcy and financial distress.

    Matt Cutts posture on his videos shows he has no remorse and has stated several times that this is the New Google

    1. Organic results for products go to Amazon
    and ChanelAdvisor related companies
    note Amazon is up 40% for the year – Thats crazy
    xxx goes to IMDB – “sex toys” #1 for Amazon along with everything from candles, silverware chests, watch winders and every other market Amazon has never written a bolg or presss release about

    Matt Cutts is nothing more than a political spokes person giving mis information to desperate webmasters

    Google just needs to admit they are a manual search engine driving traffic publicly traded companies or companies they can find other forms of revenue in like Amazon kindle fire.

    2. Google Adwords – they have put newer changes causing smaller sites also effected by Organic updates to pay more for cpc – basically charging more and exploiting companies that they hurt organically

    3. Google Shopping – what more can be said that Google has ecommerce companies “by the balls” – there is no other way to to say it. Either you Pay in every way shape and form or your company does not exist.

    Google has the best analytic data in the world and knows exactly what they are doing. They can do it because they has complete control and government support. No other company in the world shares the 2 most powerful satellites in space than Google and NSA

    The USA has determined it is easier to control and tax larger companies than 100,000+ small ones – so basically the US market for commerce online will support Google and Amazon or related companies that can pay off large amounts of money

    Google Shopping is just the icing on the cake for the 4th Quarter revenue as Google demonstrates that it can and will use webmasters own data against them to analytically discover ways to charge and exploit there presence

    “Bait and Switch” yes – it happened

    Organically
    Paid
    and every other venue

    No body knows exactly what Google is anymore -but one thing is for sure….they absolutely control who makes the money and who goes broke.

  • http://karras-bommer.blogspot.com Karras Bommer

    All I see is a promotional technique by Bing. Slam the other guy and convince the customers you are better. Nothing new here.

    • Guy

      it easy to understand, but bing chooses correct time. After google turned to clear cow machine, without any care about searchers and webmasters. $$$$$$ only

  • http://www.motorhome-holiday-cornwall.co.uk John Owles

    As a consumer, I rarely find what I am looking for, either the product, information or price on the first page of results. Invariably I find success comes in the form of a small outfit, buried three or four pages deep, who has what I want, provides the information I need to make the decision and the honest, efficient service and communication that gets my loyalty.

    The products that are found in the ‘so say’ top rankings are, more often than not, surrounded by meaningless hype and no real meat and customer service that is less than satisfactory. The more money that is spent on rankings and the bigger the outfit, the lower the commitment to service and quality and they are the least likely to provide genuine honest person to person support.

    Cinical? Maybe, but it comes from my experience of search engines and related commerce. I now tend to gloss over the first and maybe second page and start concentrating from there. It takes a bit longer but the rewards are far more satisfying.

  • http://ephedrinewheretobuy.com Mike Budd

    I don’t like this campaign by Bing just as I don’t like Bing’s results in general ;)
    But I agree with them that Google is playing a dangerous game.
    Call it “conflict of interest” or “judge and party”, the idea is that you can’t be neutral, objective, independent, trustworthy if you have a financial interest. That’s all. That’s why I fully understand and accept all the ads in my favorite newspaper: they are part of the revenues of the newspapers, the companies paying for them are ok because it’s transparent, they have paid to be seen by people like me who know it and know that these ads will not influence the essence, the soul of the newspaper: all articles written by their journalists.
    That’s the difference for me. Google would gain to clarify or to specify the line between ads revenue and the essence, the soul of the company: the best, objective, reliable, trustworthy search results.
    Cheers, Mike

  • Guy

    Google cheat now everywhere when they can. This company cheat webmasters (with information, organic ranking, this horror updates, telling not true about content, etc). Also google cheat plain web surfers, usual peoples with misleading ads at top 3-5 (peoples don’t know it organic results or ads and clicks on ads). Google cheat peoples who come to google to find something with their search results. It just not possibly to find anything on google now except wikipedia, youtube, amazon and big monster sites. I already listen from lot of my friends who even don’t know what webmaster is, what them cannot find anything in google right now.

    Bing selected very smart move, really DON’T be SCROOGLED by google. Before google was really respected company, but right now it greedy uncle Sam. Peoples really need to know what now they see not REAL searches, but SPONSORED (PAYED) searches – because it for example clear cheat in terms of prices comparison, etc.

    Google is PLAIN $$$$ right now. No any respect for them!

  • Tominguez

    The paid for inclusion links for merchants may soon be applied to content sites, wait and you will see. All those content sites that defend google and claim they are very “smart” will see what is like to be scroogled.

    The ones who get very scroogled are buyers ( who have to pay more for products since merchants are not just to give a away profits ) and the stock market investors who are the ones who really pump huge cash into google scroogle game.

  • http://www.impursuits.com Steve

    Tominguez is right on. I completely agree. The consumer will pay more for everything to do with Google searches because Google is eliminating the little guys who pay little fees and cost us consumers less to buy.

  • http://www.odinartcollectables.com Brad

    Big Time scrooged. Probably more after complaining….You take the time to put your product in the best light, not including Scroogle mixing it with new requirements along the way, making sure all pics are present, erroneous data fixed, and bringing you XML in the highest regard to Scroogle’s standard, then only to be asked for money in the end. I did not think this was a symbiotic relationship with Scroogle, but I was wrong. I have watched my numbers tumble in the Alexa Rank about 25% in or about the asking of payment. Not much has changed in the content of the site, but only the rank. A little more than Ironic. No Hard Feelings Scroogle, you have my blessing to drop me a few more million Scroogle. I am so very sorry for not sinking every bit of dollar a small business has for inclusion for what originally Scroogle thought was relevant content by “their standards” without payment. I take that back, I am not sorry at all. Merry Christmas everyone….Except Scroogle.

  • xX_Autestek6YeerOdl_Xx

    I AM NTO GETTNIG SCROGLIED. WTF IS THIS BULLSHIOT.

  • xX_Autestek6YeerOdl_Xx

    I AM NOT GETTNIG SCROGLIED!!! WTRFD IS THIS IS BULLSHUTI!

  • http://www.googleorbing.com Ryan – Owner

    In the end, it comes down to YOUR choice. Take the vote.

  • http://Mabuzi.com Kevin

    Once you have market dominance you can do what you want.

    Business are there to make money no matter what BS tag line they use.

    There can only be one!

    • http://www.facebook.com/darclew3 Chris1

      Agree Kevin but Three Bings is overkill.

  • http://www.facebook.com/darclew3 Chris1

    I am getting scrooged by Bing also. I have TWO spaces on my MSN PAGe and deleted Bing from my search along with 5 others, ask.com.wikipedia.com, Yahoo.com, eBay.com one I missed on IE8. @Who needs THREE BINGS??

  • Jay

    I’m getting scroogled looking for “fiesta luncheon plate juniper.” 8 out of 10 results are for dinner plates, which are categorically what I am not looking for.

    So I decided to try Bing. I saw their “Have you been Scroogled?” banner, realized I *had* been scroogled, and did the search on Bing. There were 14 search results on p.1.

    First came amazon, who doesn’t sell “fiesta luncheon plate juniper” partly because they are a “retired” color, partly because amazon just doesn’t get Fiesta, and charges more for them new than anyone else (kind of un-amazon-y, but WTHK?).

    Next, “Buy Fiesta Flatware at Macy’s.” Nuff said.

    Next, Fiesta Plate at Replacements.com. Very generic, and odd that they don’t mention “fiesta luncheon plate juniper,” as replacements.com is the only place I know of besides ebay where I can actually find the plates I’m looking for (I just don’t want to pay $29 per plate).

    Fourth and fifth are “plate luncheon Fiesta” and “Luncheon Plates in Plates” on bizrite.com. I know damned well bizrite never has anything I’m googling for, and predictably, the subhead mentions the “Pfaltzgraff Juniper” and “Plum Fiesta Luncheon Plate” bizrite thinks is the answer to my search.

    Number six is ebay. Finally, something that looks like a genuine response to my search terms. But I already know they’re going to tell me about (a) the “fiesta luncheon plate juniper” that Replacements wants nearly $30 for or (b) one from an eBay seller who wants even more for one than Replacements.

    Speaking of Replacements, they’re number seven on the list.

    Eight is a repeat of bizrite and its Pfaltzgraff offering.

    Nine is from worthpoint, but their plate, while a genuine offering, isn’t the one I’m looking for (Fiesta made a special Millenium edition, but this year-2000 special is not what I googled — Binged? — for).

    Ten is some images from Bing, three from Replacements, the rest, who knows. Not all are even the right color. The one interesting photo takes me to a page with an all-Fiesta tabletop setting, but it doesn’t use “fiesta luncheon plate juniper”.

    And so on and so on and so on.

    So, I’ve been Scroogled *and* Bingled. I’m going back to Google. I like their maps and street view better.

  • Harry

    Just don’t use Google for shopping search anymore. It is our decision where we get our information from. I stopped using Google for shopping.

  • EB TM

    Definitely scroogled. For that cheap android google just extorts your personal information. Without disclosure of personal info you can just throw it into the windows. It is google who decide what device is allowed to run even free apps. Especially if device is not a phone and does not have GPS. (not identifiable)
    About Microsoft: You get skyped. Where former privacy in communications?
    Why you can not use Skype on Windows 8 without Microsoft live account.
    With smart phones I will wait for Linux.
    Overall Windows 8 is a very good OS hidden under toilet tiles.
    Please let us configure computer interface so that it looks and feels professional for business or like a phone for smart phone.

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