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Ice-T: Gun Control Won’t Stop The Deaths

By · July 24, 2012 · 452 Comments
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Ice-T: Gun Control Won’t Stop The Deaths

Since last Friday, the entire nation has been in a conversation that hasn’t gone away since the Columbine tragedy: whether or not we should have stricter gun control laws. Now, more and more celebrities seem to be taking sides on the debate, regardless of personal attacks made on their character because of it.

Jason Alexander (“Seinfeld”) sparked a hellacious Twitter war over the weekend when he tweeted about whether or not private citizens should have access to certain types of weapons.

Now, it seems, rapper Ice-T is getting into the mix, giving his opinion on the matter by stating that a lack of guns doesn’t necessarily mean fewer deaths.

“The right to bear arms is because it’s the last form of defense against tyranny,” he said in an interview. “If somebody wants to kill people, they don’t need a gun to do it.”

It’s clear that the nation is divided on whether or not a crackdown on gun control laws will make a difference or if they are a violation of our constitutional rights; what is unclear, however, is whether this latest tragedy will affect the decision.

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    nerod

    i have owned a gun since i was 18. i’m 57 now and i have yet to shoot anyone. i don’t even hunt anymore. but i do target shoot.i do have the ability to protect me and my family.i do not have the money for security systems and body guards.the police can’t be there when you need them.morals and how to live right begins at home. and by the way how many policemen have shot their ex-wives, ex-girl friends,and their own family members. if someone sets their mind to kill one or many ,only a miracle will stop it.

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    Bob Berry

    Ice-T is exactly right! The second amendment is only about the protection of last resort against tyranny. You can say “this will never happen here!”, but I would submit it has been in many small ways. Beginning with the Pinkerton security service during reconstruction, followed by the segregation of the federal government by Woodrow Wilson. Along with the political speech censorship laws of WWI. Followed from the 1920’s through the 1970’s, by the civil rights violations of J. Edgar Hoover. Lyndon Johnson using the illegal files of Hoover against members of congress. From Richard Nixon to Ruby Ridge, Idaho to Waco , Texas to the patriot act, our government has been closing the noose around us. But, the over 250 million firearms in private hands are the last hurdle standing in the way of tyranny in America.

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      Brian

      Ice-T’s opinion and yours Bob is #1 IMO !
      The Govt would indeed dump on us more than ever before. It’s almost a dictatorship country now , take the guns away and say automatic weapons can only be use by the military and they own us !
      Take it to the bank America Our govt will raise taxes to the tune of 50% federal withholding and state taxes will go to 10%. Sales tax will become 15cents on a dollar if they know they can do it without a war.
      Uncle Sam would take 75cents of every dollar we make annually, and we would be reduced nothing if we tried to rebel, without having our own arsenal to stop them.
      Our biggest problem is not Guns it’s distraught idiots thinking that killing 20 or 30 innocent civilians is an act against the govt. W T F Holmes if you would have stepped out at the White House people would be thinking that you PEE’OED at our govt. It would not have come as a huge surprise , most of us are.
      Walking into a theater, and open fire on innocent civilians show your just a home grown terrorist. Burn in Hell you P O S.

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    Chad

    First off sorry to all of the families and victims in Colorado, however gun control is not the solution. Pretty sure Chicago has the most gun control laws in the USA and yet most areas there are not a safe place to be after dark, Who wants to take a trip to Mexico they have strict gun control yet pretty sure it is not even safe to go to the resorts there anymore. All gun control means is disarming the law abiding citizen. Pretty sure the criminals with weapons obtained illegally are not handing there guns over because it is against the law. What we need is to stop babying criminal and just go straight to punishing them. The guy that did the shootings in Colorado should not even be in jail he should be in the ground allready. Sorry to his familly but what about the families that lost someone because of him, they will be paying taxes to keep him locked up and alive somewhere because he got off on some kind of mental problem and live in a institution for 20 years and then be released because some Dr will think he has been rehabilitated and learned his lesson. Unfortunately there is allways going to be a bad apple somewhere just hope that there is a person close by with a gun to put down that victim if need be.

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      Rick

      Even if he is convicted and goes on death row he will more likely die of old age. Just how it seems to work these days?

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    Mikey

    First off times have change and we obviously have no control or care for human life. I lost 2 cousins and 2 Friends in the same year and 2 on same week and i been around guns most my life as also I have owned them illegally. Yes we do need to protect ourselves but its time we stop this 2nd amendment bulls*** like thats what freedom is about, ban all guns with more than 6 bullets revolvers only for citizens. I dislike the police but for my kids and those that need to be protected they come to the rescue so they can have 10 clip glocs and thats as big as they should get. In my country everyone has assualt weapons and massacre happen everyday becuz of it so we either stop it now or we too will become that one day.

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    jerome

    nothing new to add – criminals will get weapons no matter what.
    citizens being able to defend themselves if necessary is vital and is a definite deterrent.
    I mean if you could put a sign outside your home saying there are no weapons here, would it
    be more or less likely that criminals would choose your home to break into and plunder at will.?
    Obviously less likely!
    And in all the time that citizens have tried to prevent shootings by shooting the shooter, no bystanders
    have eve been hit in the USA.
    Finally , it is great as a sport and a lot of fun- i have used various rifles and machine weapons
    fro air force days and childhood and it is great!

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    Mike

    It all comes down to this “Guns Don’t Kill People, PEOPLE Kill People” regardless if you have a gun or drive drunk and kill somebody. Nobody says “take away the alcohol”. Drinking is a privilege owning a firearm is a Right. If you try to buy a handgun or rifle the BATFE does a background check on you. Also you can not purchase a full auto weapon that the military has, unless you get a class 3 license which includes a complete background check by the FBI and BATFE.

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    Davinci

    Jason Alexander is the dumbest SOB in the world, he is even dumber than the character he played on Sienfeld, George had nmore sence than his alterego.

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    Leslie Ann Warren

    We Just Have To Pay Attention To Our Surroundings When Things Are Happening Instead Of Having A Blind Eye or Non Hearing @ Certain Times To Be Able Protect Self Better To The Alternative.. for Instance When They Notice That The Exit Door Is Being Open By A Regular Person With No Alarm Going Off & Kept Propped Open I Think Sumone Scream Everybody Run It’s A Fire or Say Anythang To Get Everyone Out Of That Theater Which Been Less Fatalities or Inguries That Night??!! Plus I Dn’t Understand Why Didn’t The Alarm Go Off When The Exit Door Got Propped Open, Can Aurora Theater Explain That 4 Me??!! Blessings In Jesus Name!!

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    leslie drake

    We are as a species an inventive tool making species, if a person believes that killing some one or a group of people is the answer to his problems , he will find a way to kill, whather that is with a baseball bat or a molotov or just simply running his car into a building or a crows of people, any number of home made chemical or incendiary devices, Ice-t is absolutely right, stricter gun control simply means that more people will get them illegally and mostly those will be criminal’s or criminal organisation’s. Until we quit killing people to solve our problems thier will be no end to the tools we create to kill with…period!.

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    Dale Miller

    Maybe its time to time to stop making excuses for the people who does this stuff and punish them. The gun didn’t fire itself just like the fork didn’t shovel that pie into your mouth.

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    jorge cortes

    well this ice-t guy is crazy ok guns doesn’t kill people , but why put that guns on people that like to kill is stupid. so the government have to take control of this guns and stop this business. so ice-t is wrong this guy consume drugs maybe and have an arsenal in his house so why we have to put attention on what he said.

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      Nic Reynolds

      Where are you from Jorge?

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    dr w

    With about $30 of chemicals purchased at home depot and a local supermarket, I could easily manufacture enough explosives to level any theatre. Just because, I can doesn’t mean I will… This nut job committed an abhorrant act… police accessing his apartment and those in this building would have been killed if he hadn’t tipped them.

    To respond to J Alexander: Military rifle uses a .223 cartridge which is far less lethal than anything I use for hunting deer, elk or bear. Whatever guns look like, all repeating semiautomatic rifles work the same way… its just a question how big a magazine you attach to weapon … bigger magazine more shots. Whereas a 223 assault rifle has an effective range of 200 yards, some hunting rifles can kill a human at 1/2 mile…. a 50 cal at over a mile.

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    Vince

    Guys who commit massacres don’t care if they are punished. They usually commit suicide or get killed by cops anyways. Its already proven that states with tougher gun control laws have fewer murders. So of course gun control will stop deaths Ice-T. If James H. didn’t get his hands on guns, yes, he may have been able to kill or injure some. But not 12 deaths and 79 total injured or whatever the number was.

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      ConradCA

      “Its already proven that states with tougher gun control laws have fewer murders”

      Are you insane? Look at the murder capitols of the country. Chicago, Detroit, Washingtion DC all have strick gun control laws and lots of murders. The real indicator is the control of the government by progressive fascists which creates poverty and angry people.

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        gene shor

        Conrad, all states have to have strict laws, otherwise it will not work. DC has some of the toughest gun control laws but what’s stopping people from buying weapons in a different state?

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      Israel White

      Yeah, right. NY, CA, DC. Strict gun laws and no real gang or murder problems, right? Criminals, like most people, dont want resistance. The easy path is preferred. Guns laws are paving the easy path for them becasuse they can give a damn about a law. They want what they want when they want it and will come to take it.

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    james

    Guns being withheld from law abiding citizens will do nothing to keep sick minded people from commiting those types of crimes,Guns can a great form entertainment, and also can bring families closer together.On the other hand they can tear families apart in the worst way,but so can drugs and alchol, gambling,and so on!!!!! the bottom line is that we as people need to start focusing on the real problem
    the sicko’s that are using the guns

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    • Guarenteed = NO SUCH WORD = GUARENTEE = LOOK IT UP!!!! ps. This nut got 6000 rounds off the internet !!RED FLAGS!!

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    ConradCA

    The right to keep and bear firearms is guarenteed by the constitution the same as the freedom of speach, and religion. If you abolish the 2nd ammendment without ammending the constitution then you can do the same to the rest of the constitutuin. Furthermore, remember all the people in England killed by rioters. They were denied the ability to defend themselves because of their government. When death is seconds away the police are minutes away.

    I you really wanted to kill a lot of people you wouldn’t use a firearm. You would use gasoline or natural gas in a crowed room like a theater. Are you planning on banning those items?

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    dr w

    In the UK, they tried to outlaw guns… but they are available on the black market…. so the solution was to outlaw certain types of knives…. when this didn’t work they outlawed bats…. this left all the population undefended from criminals who bought everything illegally anyway..

    Problem is they didn’t go far enough … they should have outlawed every knike, hammer and utensil…. this would have actually saved them money, because unable to cut or tenderize food, Brits would have had to knaw on everything… hence their teeth would have been better and the national health serice would save money.

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      gene shor

      the UK has about a fifth of the murders per capita that we have in the US. They are similar to us in many ways, with the same violent past, the same recession they are going through….yet they don’t kill each other as often as we do. Something is working. Or do you think it’s just cultural differences? James Holmes would still have done this no matter what, but maybe…just maybe he wouldn’t have gotten 71 people in two minutes had he not been able to so easily purchase a 100-round magazine for his AR-15.

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        hatfield

        Absolutely correct Gene.

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    Cain

    I live in Phoenix Arizona and I can promise you this would not have happened here. We Have the right to open carry our firearms and this psychotic killer would have been shot by 30 diffrent people before he got the 2nd round off.Instead of taking away guns and burning our constitution why not allow people the right to defend themselves.

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      gene shor

      So, this guy throws some kind of gas canisters into the room and you and the other 29 will all have a clear shot and composure to bring him down? And don’t forget he is dressed from head to toe in protective gear. Give me a break… The immediate response of most people (except for trained military or police) is to look for cover and try to protect themselves and their loved ones. The same exact thing could happen in Phoenix with the same exact result. And stop talking about the constitution. It was written over 200 years ago. Things have changed since then.

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        Dave

        WAKE UP!if he could see 2 kill 12&wound 58,someone could “SEE”well enough 2 put some rounds on target.Even on body armor a couple hundred foot lbs.of force would at least have knocked him off his “game”if not his feet.Then he could have been over powered & disarmed. And maybe the expense of a trial would have been saved?

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          hatfield

          Well he’s in Colorado where people can buy guns, just like he did legally. So why is it that no one in that theater shot him. It looks as if even without tighter gun laws, not a single person in that theater was able to take him on.

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          Rene

          I agree with Gene.

          The shooter was wearing a gas mask and he didn’t give a damn about who he shot. There was no need to aim. He just shot into the mass of people.
          When theres who knows how many people panicking in one room, stepping on each other to get out, do you really think that any one would be able to aim properly and only hit the shooter? Especially if there are suddenly 30 other people with a gun shooting around. Do you really believe that only the killer would get shot and no other civillians?

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      Joe

      ha ha! Not if you store lots of guns and ammo. But if you have more than 7 days of food stored, you are flagged.

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    tom fahey

    Would it not be prudent to have a system that checks and rechecks a person who in a short time has amassed such a large arsenal. There should be red flags in place.

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    Joe

    The real issues, as I see it, are this:

    1)Punishments are too lax. Where are the deterrents to stop people from wanting to do this? What kind of punishment is jail? They go to jail and get free room and board, and education? Some get jobs in which they take your credit card numbers over the phone. I have lived many years in a country where murder carries a death penalty by hanging and theft is a caning. There is very little crime, simply because that country follows through with its punishments.

    2)Changing the rights to keep and bear arms means that anything in the Constitution and its Amendments that deal with individual rights are null and void and can be changed at the governments whim. Free speech? Forget about it. The right to not offer information that may incriminate you? Gone. You will do what the government tells you to do.

    The terrorists are winning if the government strips people of their rights under the Constitution and its Amendments.

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    Israel White

    Gun laws only stop law abiding citizens (like myself) from carrying guns. Have our tightening gun laws stopped gang bangers or psychos like the Aurora Co. shooter from taking lives? These animals, just like those in the wild, prey on those with little or no ability to defend themselves.

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      gene shor

      what tightening laws? He bought 6000 rounds of ammo online for next to nothing.

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    Abel G...

    I Swear… these comments i read make me sick… some people are so ignorant and blind to the big picture… to think “Banning Guns” or making Strict Gun Control Laws would have stoped someone from killing a bunch of people. is about the most ignorant thing i ever heard…
    Has everybody forgotten 911 a few men killed thousands with a box knife and an airplane… Did the Govornment stop the sale of plane tickets and boxknifes…???? i think not… the people that planed and exicuted that masacre did not use a single Gun… people that want to kill and do stupid s*** like that are going to find a way to do it no matter what…
    But to take away are consitutional rights for the act of one Crazy really messed up distured person is just STUPID… all that is going to do is take away our right to protect ourselfs not from thieves and killers but once the american people do not have the right to bare arms…then you can bet your ass all the rest of our right will be taking away soon after…!!!

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      Mike

      you’re dumb. The 2nd amendment was written when a gun fired only one bullet, and the reload process took fifteen seconds to half a minute (if you were skilled)… and these weapons were much more expensive when compared to the average persons income and costs associated with owning a firearm. Do you really think this same law, written over 2 centuries ago, should allow for people to own glocks and ak 47′s?

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    Mobeda

    Anybody that actually thinks gun control solves ‘the problem’ is an Idiot and Completely Ignorant. Laws are only observed by Law Abiding citizens. Weak minded fall right into the Governments push to outlaw ‘all guns’ from private ownership.> A GREAT Excuse to pry more into Everyones privacy portray the average citizen as being the Dangerous Factor; hahaha. Play nice/disarm the people so they can’t hurt each other; lolol.. Yes; just look at what Hitler did//// disarmed the people for their own safety and ‘then what happened’? Every single time there is a Sad Tragedy like this; your friendly government uses it to justify ‘Stricter Gun Laws’; Which have NEVER worked in a Single Country in the History of Earths’ Gun Era. Bottom line? Simple> People that cannot control their guns(cuz they are crazy)present no valid reason to Remove all guns to help Control People. REMEMBER; once they take all our guns away; we are nothing but SHEEP. The following is a list of the 3 most Dangerous kinds of People: 1 Our Government wanting to disarm us… 2 Anti guns fools that don’t understand the neccesity of Gun rights and gun ownership and 3.. Nuts like James Holmes < in that order. Why would I put the Colorado Killer last? Simple; he killed 12 and wounded about 70 people. Our Friendly Top Heavy, Heavy handed paranoid Government can selectively Kill any or all of us; once they take our guns away. No gun ever pulled its' own trigger. Raise your hand if you want to be Gun Free. Congrats; you can be first in line when they open the Homeland Security Concentration Camps that are being built.(they call them Detention Centers…………. ya right)

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      Mike

      Ice-T’s statements are just wrong. Gun control does stop deaths and it has worked. Evidence… England.

      I want ONE valid reason why any civilian should have an assault rifle. Just one… and “this is america, you can have whatever you want” is not a valid reason.

      People should not have things that they do not intend on using… (kind of off point but that is why so many citizens in this country are broke)…

      The only use for an assault rifle is to kill many things very quickly. (or to practice shooting… but then again, why practice something you’re never going to do).

      If you want to kill something, do it with a close range weapon, that way you have to mean it. The vast majority of kids sitting in living rooms playing xbox or playstation have made a trigger pulling motion tens of thousands of times this week… and that is a fact.
      The quick trigger pull is now second nature and it takes just one of those motions that has been made millions of times by any one of the millions of “introverted videogame generation kids” to kill. Obviously they know the difference between a gun and a controller… but are a few million “pretend” trigger pulls ever a good idea?

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        Evol

        Obviously, you missunderstood Ice-T’s comments. What about if someone breaks into your house while you and your family are asleep? They take all of your stuff, cut the phone cord and the electricity so you cant call the cops, put up an anti-cell phone preventer, rape your wife and daughter(s) and/or sons beat the crap out of you and leave you and your family with nothing. It could all be prevented if you had a gun to protect yourself.

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          hatfield

          I don’t think Mike is saying that people should not be able to legally buy a gun. It’s the kind of gun used in the movie theater that’s the problem. Why would someone need a gun that can fire 50 to 60 times in one minute? I know people who hunt and they don’t use a gun like that. I’ve never heard of a store owner who was held up and needed to use a gun like that to defend himself. So who is it that needs a weapon like that? My guess is that it’s only purpose is for people at a gun range and sick people who are looking to kill as many people as they can, as fast as they can before someone stops them.

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        Chicago2012

        Mike and Vince, you guys can’t be serious. I really hope you’re joking – with those comments.

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        AIG

        Sir, you are mistaken. Gun control only takes guns off those who are responsible, and who would use it to defend themselves. DO you think stricter gun controls would have made the criminal abide by it’s law? WHen has a killer ever said to him self, ” well, I can’t shoot ppl, because it’s illegal.” When has a drug dealer ever said to himself, ” well, I can’t deal out drugs, because it’s illegal” Do you get it? If a person wants to do mass murder, only his imagination stops him. Case, 9/11. A lot of people were murdered that day, and the choice of weapon was not a gun. Should we have had more stricter ” no hi-jacking planes” policies in place? use your head.

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        Mike S

        Mike, you cite England as an example of gun control being effective in stopping deaths. But the statistic that I keep seeing is that the murder rate DOUBLED in that country after guns were outlawed and confiscated by the British government.

        You ask for one valid reason why civilians should have “assault rifles” (which is a meaningless term that was made up by gun-phobic types). Here’s one reason for civilian gun ownership: Hurricane Katrina. After it hit New Orleans, the police and other authorities went AWOL for a good three days. During this period of anarchy, the only really effective thing that people had to defend themselves from criminals and gangs was their own guns. Yes, such events are rare. You may only find yourself in such a situation once in your life. But if and when you do, your gun will literally mean the difference between life and death for you and your family.

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        native to colorado

        First, gun control is absolutely neccasary, every citizen that owns a fire arm should be required to take a fire arm safety class reguardless of experiance.
        Second, an AR-15 is NOT an assault rifle by definition an assault rifle is a SELECT FIRE (burst, automatic fire)weapon that fires from 600-800 rounds per minute. An AR-15 is a Military style SEMI-AUTOMATIC rifle. If your going to say that AR-15′s or any other Military style weapons should be banned, then by that logic black powder rifle/handguns, shot guns, and bolt action rifles should be banned. After the First World War bolt action rifles were the most popular rifles with sporters and hunters because they allowed quicker follow up shots and easier reloading, modern millitary style weapons are no different they are just a newer sporting rifle based off of a military model.Most shooting competitions today involve AR-14′s and M1A’s (such as 3 gun shoots, the President’s 100, etc.), just because you own a weapon of such sorts does not mean you mean I’ll will. Unfortunately gun control only works on LAW ABIDING CITIZENS criminals DO NOT follow the laws set forth by legislators. This is coming from not only a responsible gun owner, but also a former member of the Armed Forces, I’m a very strong proponent of the 2nd Amendment AND I fully support PROPER Gun-Control, I do not believed that a normal citizen needs an M-249 SAW, but I do believe that we should be able to be armed.

        “ARMED society is a POLITE society” – Thomas Jefferson

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        barry

        How do you know it is “Something you are never going to do?” What if we are “God forbid” invaded by another country? The reason the Japanese did not attack the US mainland in WWII is they knew that almost every household had guns. ANd yes, a wave of attacking eneny military is reason to have assult weapons. If you think it can’t happen here, you have been drinking the kool aid and not paying attention to your history.

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    Chris

    ICE-T is spot on. Use logic sheeple.

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    Cami

    The fact and the matter is not really the guns is the nuts ppl we have in this country 300 mil what would you expect ? It is sad what happen don’t really get it how he was able to get not 1 gun but 4 … But i have one thing to say once the gov take gun controls you can kiss urself goodbye , I’m coming from a communist country and US starts to look a lil bit like socialism give a bit and take some more

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  25. Ask the family members of the victims if there should be gun control laws. People need guns to protect themselves? How do you know when to carry your gun. I don’t care how many guns I own, I am not taking them with me into the movie theater(before this anyway). Gun laws may not stop these things from happening but the right laws may slow things enough for people to have a fighting chance.

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      barry

      If any of the people in the theatre had a concealed carry permit, things would have been drastically diffrent.

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    Mobeda

    Something I forgot to mention> A Great Example of a ‘no guns’ situation. < Syria; look at the way the Military has been slapping around the people for the last 16 months. Most folks in Syria cannot have guns of any kind. And the Police and Military have been just randomly kicking in doors and killing everybody in the place. The various Officials have been blaming the thousands(THOUSANDS)of Murders on different factions; but even then; regardless; just think of how much tougher it would be for the Government of Assad to just go door to door Killing folks, it those folks Were Packing some HEAT? > Saddam had 37 Gold plated Mansions……. 37! His Favorite Hobby was Torturing and killing people when he got up in the morning. His sons went around town raping and murdering anybody they felt like messing with. Saddam paid the price but look what his people had to go through. North Korea? Russia? China? The African Countries……….. All Controlled Sheep. The United States is the ONLY Country on Earth that people die trying to sneak into. As many lame things that go on in this Country; it is Still the Very best Country on Earth. And it’s not the Government that makes it Great; it’s the People. We still have many Freedoms that most others only DREAM of and will Never have. We Pay plenty of Prices for our Freedoms, but giving up our Guns is No Answer in creating a better World. Study the History of Worldwide Countries. Gun possession works more for Most of us than it works against us. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were Masterfully Written. Incredibly Written by some of the Most intelligent men of the time. Alot of what they say/said/wrote it literally timeless. History brags about how intelligent these founding Fathers were. Yet as years have past, all of a sudden our Government wants to conveiniently TWEAK the Words of our founding Fathers for ‘their’ benefit not ours. They chip away at our Freedoms/Our Constitution/Our Future/our guns/our safety. Don’t be a Sucker. And if you are Anti Gun; you are indeed a Sucker.

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    newhitmarketing

    It’s important to remember that, there has always been a black-market for weapons, or for anything else illegal, for that matter.
    It’s the dirty side of supply and demand.
    Age old fact.

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      Common Sense

      You are absolutely right & it’s refreshing to see that most people posting on here are too… Be blessed & have a great Summer.

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    Common Sense

    Ice-T you are a smart man & you’ve earned my sincere respect for standing up for The 2nd Amendment of The U.S. Constitution.

    So if a rapper & actor knows the Constitution then why doesn’t the man in the White House & furthermore why don’t most Senators & Congressmen? What’s their excuse?

    Let’s put it this way & make it easier to understand: Did Prohibition stop people from purchasing alcohol? And furthermore was there Less Crime or More Crime during & after Prohibition; specifically because of Prohibition? Have drug laws prevented any individual from purchasing drugs? How is it that some people have the silly notion that a simple piece of paper with words on it will protect them ( cause that’s essentially what a law is?)

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    Gus

    Cars kill more people than guns, yet no-one want’s to get rid of cars. It is true that people killed others before guns came about. No matter what there is out there, any item can and will probably be used to kill. You can kill someone with a butter knife. Restricting guns only affect the blinded law abiding citizen, not the criminal. I believe it is more than a constitutional right to own guns. Guns will always be around. The perecentage of guns in the public used for killing ot crime is extremely minute. Do you really want the government and criminals to be the only ones that have guns? There will always be killing of some sort as in anything to do with people there will always be some form of corruption or misuse of any item.
    If you want to stop killing get rid of cars, cigarretts, chemical factories, ond wars. We pay our government through taxes to kill people. Wake up and smell the roses.

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      Chicago2012

      Yeah, exactly. …But something tells me that the government already knows everything you just said.

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      Starborne

      This guy is right about the Second Amendement , We have the right to BEAR ARMS loaded or unloaded . If you want to try and take our guns away .Then take our cars away also which kill more people than guns do .You know what really gets me mad is you never hear to much about all the Soldiers that loose there lives for us as Americans. And they have the right to bear arms to protect themselves and we do to .

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    Mo Dashley

    How is the right to bear arms “the last form of defense against tyranny”? Especially if “somebody,” let’s say a citizen, “wants to kill people,” namely a tyrant, “they don’t need a gun to do it.”

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    been there done that

    It is the spirit behind the weapon….sshh
    I don’t want to have a place where no one can protect themselves or their family. Then you have young hoods running the streets in the back of pickup trucks with ball bats robbing raping and pillaging and none to stop them. BUT 85 year old grandma with a shot gun in a rocker can back up that youthful power and pride!

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      steve

      Wish I said it so well, as you did! Thank you for the quotes of our great founding fathers!!!! I had forgotten. I think I might cry, haveing read the words of those great men!! God we are so lucky to have our great nation!! So proud to be an American!!!!

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    Common Sense

    Walk in their shoes is ANOTHER IDIOT… I don’t smoke weed but if someone else wants to so in their own home just who the Hell am I to try & tell them or force them not to? So your a mindless sheep & you believe inanimate metal objects are evil so don’t purchase one moron but don’t try & take that right away form someone else? And you’re in such great company as fellow anti-gun people such as Stalin & Hitler ( I wonder why those two didn’t want their citizens to have guns?-I think it was because they were such caring humanitarian individual’s don’t you?) “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
    Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote”. -Benjamin Franklin

    “Fireams stand next in importance of the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence”.
    -General Washington

    “Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – unlike the citizens of those counties whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms”.
    -James Madison

    “No Free Man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government”.
    -Thomas Jefferson

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the Tranquility of servitude better than the Animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were
    our countrymen”.
    -Samuel Adams, speech at the
    Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776

    “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little
    temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”.
    -Benjamin Franklin

    “America will never be destroyed from outside.
    If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves”.
    -Abraham Lincoln

    “The Constitution does not protect our guns, our guns protect the
    Constitution “! -Allen Croft

    “It is in the interest of a tyrant to keep his people poor, so that they may not be able to afford the cost of protecting themselves by arms and be so occupied with their daily tasks that they have no time for rebellion”.
    -Aristotle

    “I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations”. -John Madison in 1788

    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have……….”.
    -Thomas Jefferson (1743 -1826)

    “In a time of universal deceit, speaking the truth is a revolutionary act”.
    -George Orwell, 1984

    “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.”
    -Thomas Jefferson

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      Rich D

      Excellent series of quotes……….Those fellows that wrote that Constitution were pretty darn smart……More so than some in power today. They instituted a series of “checks and balances” so that government by and for the people could not be mutated into “Monarchy” as they had in England. The 2nd amendment was the last piece of “insurance” that government could not enslave the population.. It truly is the amendment that all the others are built on……….Destroy the 2nd and the rest will fall soon after

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    Common Sense

    Can anyone here say U.N. Small Arms Treaty & the fact that Hillary said she’d help put it into law in the US? And let’s not forget Obama’s comment “So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations”. Sounds very anti-American & anti-2nd Amendment ( anti-gun) now doesn’t it? Ron Paul for President because Romney has an anti-gun record as well as Obama does….

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    steve

    Ive heard these arguments all before!If the second amendment was not important to our founding fathers then it wouldnt have been the second, it wouldnt have been at all! GUNS DONT KILL, PEOPLE DO!Okay strong regs in the U.S.!?Lets take Washington D.C.! Guns are banded!And D.C. was the murder capitol of the U.S. every year of the 1980s!Gee that didnt work so well did it anti gun folks!Yes the murders were mostly black and didnt buy their guns legally and if they did they crossed into D.C. which then made them illegal!Anyway,If everyone in that theater, lets say had a loaded hanggun with them that night.The idiot would not have shown up,unless he had a death wish!We should be dicussing how we can ban personal carry permits in states like mine(maryland)!!!!!Why do we feel the need to rehash the same issues every few years!?One thing is for sure while we argue meningless things like pro life or pro choice,or an amendment that is so vital to the people of this nation(that has already been put in place by great man many years ago)We miss the issues our weak government doesnt want us to think about!And theres many now, such as minimul wage is a slave or better yet a poverty wage!Or how about our government reps do not ever get paid if they put us into a deficit!If we have a surpluss cool they get paid if not well someone did do their job and dont deserve to be paid a dime when we dont have the money!!!!Love to dicuss these issue on a blog!

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    Common Sense

    US Will Sign Gun Control Treaty on July 27! Dick Morris TV: Lunch ALERT!
    http://youtu.be/XZeJpXLsVCI

    Call your Congressmen & Senators & tell them to oppose the U.N.Small Arms Treaty… Please & thank you for your time….

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    Cutty

    I second the motion; Steve, and everyone else, that stands by the peoples right, to bare arms! GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!

    The law clearly states: You have a right to defend yourself, or someone else. You may chase down the person(s)and, up to and, include kill the person. In self defense.! I know that, for a fact.

    I’ve been there, done that!

    I got robbed. In Denver, CO. And, I chased the person down and, stabbed the person 8 times, during the scuffle. He lived though.

    The D.A.s investigator said it was self defense. And, my lawyers investigator said it was self defense. So, there you have it!

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      Johnny

      “GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!”

      Yeah! You sing it sister! There’s no difference between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and NOT having a gun and NOT shooting someone with it. And you’d be a fool and communist to think otherwise.

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      Andrew

      if people did not have access to guns then the people could not kill people by the way I own two hundguns a357 mag and a 9mm semi auto. bouight legally but I don’t see the point of having an assault rifle even if I did I would not bring it out if someone broke into my home I would use my pistols. Have certain types of gun banned does not give way to all guns being banned

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        barry

        Keep living the delusion. They want to take all our guns away. What then? Knives? Baseball Bats? Lead pipes? Ropes? The list goes on and on.

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          blob

          enuff said BUD GUNS ALL THE WAY!!!! I dare you to try and take mine away i have a arsanal of guns too but im not a idiot that wants to or has EVER even thought about shoot someone that just dumb. Self defense for myself and my kids and wife and whole family.
          NRA DONT TREAD ON ME!!!!!! And i won’t on you.!.!.!.

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    Tom Tom

    When will we understand that making more laws is not the answer? There are numerous laws against drugs and where has that gotten us?

    If a criminal or wanna be criminal wants to buy a gun, he or she can do so without going through much red tape. Any new law regarding gun ownership only means that there will be a penalty to pay if one is caught breaking that law. Laws against gun ownership only means the honest law abiding citizen will be more vulnerable to victimization.

    Gun laws will only serve the outlaws…….get it?? Liberals seem to think laws are the answer or easy fix to all unpleasant events. Really people?

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      David Harlem

      Hey if assault rifles (made for killing humans) are legal then it’s time to legalize things far less deadly like marijuana.

      People will kill people but why make it easier for them?

      I don’t think guns should be outlawed but there should be controls and assault (rapid fire) weapons should not be legally available.

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        blob

        wow another idiot in the room. MY 45 caliber pistol shoots 9 rounds just as fast and accurate at the distance he was shooting, once again morron he wasn’t using an AUTOMATIC RIFLE it was a semi auto just like a 9MM or a .40 cal or a .45 cal pistol NO difference. On thing different would be clip size and there are different variations of rifles these days. Not to mention recall the (automatic) semi-automatic rifle jammed freakin idiot how do you jam a rifle wow, but he finished with SEMI AUTOMATIC PISTOLS. Quit talking you liberal f*&^s.

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    Chris

    Let’s start holding people accountable for their actions! If you go out and COMMIT A CRIME with a gun and are convicted of the crime, maybe you should be be shot in response. The guy in Aurora should have had his trial on Tuesday. If found guilty his Appeal should be today. If found guilty he should be buried tomorrow. I see no sense in keeping this guy in prison for the next 50 or 60 years. Maybe if there was some fear of punishment some of the gun violence would stop.

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      blob

      THANK YOU SOMEONE SMART ON HERE best thing i’ve read about gun control EVER. Hell they shouldn’t even have a trial for this dumbass who cares if he is clinically insain thats not the point. Point is he killed people and he deserves DEATH himself, quit waisting my tax dollars OBAMA, heres a cut for you if there is direct linking to a gun crime and there was plenty evedentally 100′s of people don’t count. SHOOT HIM THE SAME WAY HE KILLED HIS VICTIMS. Think government THINK how much since does it make to even try this guy by trail, its completely outta the question that anyone else was even halfway responsible. SHOOT HIM AND RAKE HIM UNDER THE RUG. Let these families and heroic acts of BF and Husbands be the highlight of this story. Truely a heart felt sorry for your loss every victem of his or anyone elses. We the American people love you and pray to God that you will be able to find some kind of closer.
      AMEN

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    Gary Dines

    You can take all the guns in the world away; and people will still find away to kill each other..me personally, i have my gun to defend all those who mean to do harm to me or my family

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    Really

    I think Mr. Ice T misses the point. More regulations may not stop people from becoming victims of future gun violence. However, the government regulates roads, with traffic signs and speed limits. They monitor and limit the amount of a specific cold medications. One possible “Shoe Bomber” has caused a nation to remove it’s shoes at the airport.
    What we need here is a common since approach, monitor gun sales, and gun paraphernalia, limit clip capacities. Make sure that individuals ordering this items are not stockpiling, or have ulterior motives. The Second Amendment is the right to bear arms, not to acquire an armory. I am all for gun ownership rights, but this subject has been hijacked and politicized, to such an extent that common sense remains absent.
    For each one of you in this forum that believe a right to bear arms is paramount, are somehow trumps public safety, it does not, or it should not.
    Furthering, I have one simple question, how can the right to bear arms discussion or just the thought of common sense regulations, be so taboo, while the Basic Fundamental Rights for voting are systematically, being more and more regulated, for strictly political gain? Where is the out rage there? Mr Ice t you may play a cop on TV but not in real life please, get your priorities strait.

    And Please tell Coco I said Hi….

    Freedom of Speech (Just watch what you say) Huh…

    Really,

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      blob

      Really- Your an IDIOT yourself, ever heard give an inch take a mile, or two or three. Thats our “great nation” for you. You can’t regulate the good people just because theres a few ass holes out there than lose it and go on a killing spree. MAKE THE PENALTIES HIGHER use too in other countries if you stole something you lost a hand. You wanna steal again ha doubt it. wheres your common sense you regulate guns your only regulating legally sold guns. Anyone with money can get a black market gun from just about anywhere look around they’re there trust me. You people with your gun control thoughts. The government regulates a cars travel speed for one for income for two because your driving constantly around thousands of people everyday and you can’t possibly be 100% sure you can control it at 100MPH. A gun is not driven nor used daily. AS I ALREADY SIMPLY STATED GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE USING THE GUN KILL PEOPLE. Should we take all the gun action outta movies too simply because theres a few thousand people that can’t control themselves its not everybody elses fault. START STRINGING THE PEOPLE UP kill them the same tradgic way they killed. THINK BEFORE YOU TALK IDIOT

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      Mike

      well, you m issed the point and obviously don’t purchase many guns. There are laws in effect that you are not able to purchase more than one hand gun in a thirty day period.
      further more, if we allow the govt to regulate how many guns we own, what about cars? the people who drive them may have multiple dui’s but I don’t see them saying he has too many, anyone that is. So why just guns? why don’t you get off your lazy fingures and compare how many deaths are caused by DUI’s as opposed to guns like this.. Yep more, If we allow the govt to control what we own what would be next, I mean they already control what we read and how we hear the news.. wake up..

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      Angus McClean

      In response to Really: Common sense is certainly needed.To address your points:
      1. Gun and gun paraphenalia sales are already monitored; per federal regulation. Ask any gunshop owner. How is such monitoring supposed to help prevent the homicidally insane from acting out their psychosis?
      2.How is limiting clip capacities supposed to stop a psychopath from killing? I don’t see how that would work, do you?
      3. What relationship does stockpiling weapons and/or ammo have to do with the willing intent to do murder? Many law abiding gun enthousiasts have what you would probably label a “stockpile” and yet they aren’t out commiting randoms acts of firearm violence.
      Your arguments are what seemto be lacking in common sense. The opinions you’ve expressed reflect only an unfortunate ignorance which is easily cured through common sense and a little more research into FACTS.
      As to the last issue you brought up, there is outrage. Search it out and you’ll find it on the web. This, however was not the appropriate place to bring it up given tat this venue is dedicated to a completely different subject.

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    jose

    Im all for guns in the houshold, 1-2. This guy purchased assult Riffle, shot gun and a Glock, in 3 months, WTF, Why would any human want an Automatic Assault riffle? All these people say well Humans kill humans, and will find a way to do so, NO s*** HUmans kill humans, but would you be scared if someone came in to a Theater with a freaking bat, knife of sling shot? NO! He might stab 1 person but not kill 12, and injure 59, Think about this people. Would he even commit the crime if he could get ahold of this power weapons?

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      Dennis

      What happened was an unexplainable tragedy, but the fact is, gun control would not have stopped it or any other person motivated to do such heinous crimes.

      He did not have an automatic assault riffle. He had a semi-automatic. These aren’t the same weapons the military use. A lot of people actually use AR-15′s for hunting.

      That weapon is actually more suited for shooting long range. So a handgun with a high capacity magazine would be just as lethal in such a contained area.

      That douche bags most powerful weapon was his intelligence. Do you actually think he would have walked in with a baseball bat and started hitting people? If he didn’t have access to weapons, how hard to you think it would have been for him to learn how to make pipe bombs? If he chained the doors and tossed in toxic smoke bombs do you think we’d be arguing over bleach and ammonia control?

      What do you think is one of the scariest things to other countries that might like to invade the USA? It’s not just our military, but the fact that just the registered hunters in the US is larger than every military force combined.

      It’s easy to jump on the gun control bandwagon, but after the laws are put in place it really does take a great feat to get them removed. You’ll never realize how much you’d like to have an assault riffle until you need one.

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      blob

      You IDIOTS PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE NOT GUNS<DUH!
      And that was not an AUTOMATIC its a semi-automatic just like stated above atleast go learn something before you open you dumb mouth.

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      Rich D

      What if he had waited for the show to be over……….The crowd exiting the theater………and mowed them down with a car. Would the victims be any less dead because he chose a different weapon?????……..

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      Mikey

      What if someone in that theater had a gun to defend themselves…Ever think about that one. Also it wasnt an automatic – those are illegal buddy- it was a semi auto… So he bought a shotgun, a rifle, and a glock in the last 3 months… So were going to impose waiting periods now after buying a new gun… Unconstitutional my friend

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    Robert Berry

    I wonder now if the theater can be sued since they prohibit firearms on the property, do they now assume responsibility for what happens in case of a gunfight? They would be liable if the theater had burned down, so why not in this case?

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    Jon

    You ignorant people, the AR-15 rifle was not an automatic weapon. It had the same action as his hand gun only the rifle had a small .223 caliber whereas the Glock was .40 caliber (10mm). Both of these weapons were semi-automatic meaning only one round is fired per pull of the trigger not 600 rounds like an automatic. Granted Colorado is one of the few states that allows a 100 round magazine for the AR-15. Maybe round capacity is what we should debate.

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    John

    Taking guns from people will not stop large scale Murder and Tragedy…I believe it was a little more than a dozen guys with box cutters that managed to kill almost 4000 people on September 11,2001,not to mention the deaths after caused by that heinous act,which had no guns involved……

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      mike

      i agree with our constitutional rights. taking guns out of the hands of people by creating a law only keeps the honest people from being able to protect themselves.
      Lets be honest, it doesn’t matter if you have a box cutter or a fully auto. someone that wants to be devestating will do it with exsplosives or a vehicle or what ever their sick minds dream up. the fact is only law abiding citezens will follow the law, and we dont have problems with them. the problem is we have to be more accertive in identifing a person who is capable of such lunicy. it’s not about the guns. I happen to know many people with an out right arsenal, but they aren’t sick and demented people. they are afraid of our weak as- government and the rest of the world. what kind of nation would we be together if iran had more guns than we did and we had no governmet to fight for us?

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    BBK

    Guns have one purpose, killing. Cars and knives and may other things that can kill have multiple purposes. People should be able to have guns to protect themselves but not these rapid fire types that aren’t meant for sport, aren’t meant for defense, they’re meant for attack and murder. Draw the line at a reasonable point — yes to tunes for self defense but 100 round cartridges — no way! Make it as tough as we reasonably can for anyone to achieve mass murder.

    BB

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      Mikey

      100 round cartridges…think you mean magazines buddy.In which case you mean the 100 round Beta mag, which could technically be considered a drum. Please educate yourself before you begin speaking on subjects you clearly have no clue about.

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      Rehwr

      “Guns have one purpose, killing.”

      What’s your point? Cars still kill more people than guns ever will.

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    jeff

    I have a question. Think about how the situation would have played out if 1or 2 people in the crowd had their chl. The man wouldnt have done nearly the damage. Embrace your country .when you start changing the freedom we are here for you loose sight of the word America. The man had problems but guns are illegal in Mexico and the people who need the guns dont have them and the ones who do are gangs and drug runners who already dont care about the law. My heart goes out to the families of the loved ones but taking away another freedom will not bring them back or prevent another psycho in the future.

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      Competition Shooter

      YES!! Finally a person that gets it!! We did outlaw one type of gun from civilian hands. The FULL Auto. Done! NO More! You keep taking liberties way you will wind up like china!!! Large mags ban will not solve anything either! You ever hear of jungle loads?? I have lost relitives to guns to but I don’t blame the gun. People kill people. They can use cars, clubs,butter knives and even forks. Seriously you can kill with about any object.

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    whatever

    In response to iced teas confusion about how military arms get into gen-pub — Wake up sweetie pie —- the gubbermint paid that guy to shoot up the movie theatre, how long are americans going to sleep – your own gubbermint is screwing you so hard you cant feel your own asses.

    Newsflash iced tea – it’s time to retire – your are old, out of touch and clueless.

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      Dallas

      Did you even read the article above?

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