Bethenny Frankel addressed the NYU Alumni Association’s Speakers on the Square event recently, and shared her thoughts about going with her gut when making important decisions. The talk came around–following a question from an audience member–to her reasons for marrying her now ex-husband Jason Hoppy.

“I think my instinct and gut going into my marriage [knew] it would turn out the way it did. I could feel it, but I intellectualized it. People are always talking about ‘Do I go with my head or my heart?’ Go with your gut,” the Real Housewives of New York star said.

Frankel jokingly blamed Andy Cohen for what was likely one of the biggest mistakes of her life.

“Later on, your Mom likes them, your friends are all getting married, your head gets involved, you love having sex with a person, that’s your heart [or something else] getting involved,” Bethenny Frankel explained. “It’s all Andy Cohen’s fault, he will admit it. And yes, that’s the point. That’s why I wrote the book I Suck at Relationships So You Don’t Have To–because I wasn’t making a decision out of truth, I was making a decision out of fear.”

.@Bethenny Frankel on her marriage: 'I was making a decision out of fear' http://t.co/hg2XIRVFaa pic.twitter.com/8gwwXi3TX8

— People magazine (@people) June 16, 2015

Does Bethenny Frankel regret that the demise of her marriage played itself out on reality TV?

Surprisingly, no.

“Looking back on that, I don’t really believe in regret, and it was situation where they were giving me a show–a spin-off–and I was in a relationship and it kind of just became, ‘This is what’s going on in your life, and this is compelling,’ ” she said of her show, Bethenny Ever After. “It was hard for me to compartmentalize.”

“But again, my gut did not like that we were doing a show together. My skin crawls thinking about it. I just did not feel right about it, and I kept saying, ‘I don’t want to be the Tori [Spelling] and Dean [McDermott] show. I don’t want to do this.’ And not because that’s a bad show but just because I just didn’t want to do that, and I didn’t go with my gut. It didn’t cause my divorce or anything, it’s just a whole new s—show that’s more of a s— show because of that.”

While it’s no big surprise to hear Bethenny Frankel talking about her failed marriage to Jason Hoppy, it is intriguing to hear her say she married him out of fear. And when she defines fear as the culmination of outside influences–like her mom liking him–it really does make sense.

No favorites here! @Andy Cohen says @Bethenny Frankel has 'no say' in editing #RHONY http://t.co/CltBAQs3SO pic.twitter.com/0omBtwJKQL

— People magazine (@people) June 9, 2015

How many people do you expect have made similar poor decisions out of the same kind of fear Bethenny Frankel describes?

The number is likely astounding.