The rumored Apple Car has been making headlines again, although recent reports are placing its debut several years away.

The Apple Car seems to be Apple’s on-again, off-again project, with it taking different forms throughout the years. Dubbed “Project Titan” it was alternately believed to be a full car, an OEM AI system for manufacturers to adopt and integrate into their vehicles, or an aftermarket system that could be integrated into a range of vehicles. It now seems as though Apple is once again aiming for a full automobile.

The most recent rumors placed a possible Apple Car debut in 2021, while some reports place it in 2024. According to the latest reports from Bloomberg, however, it seems the Apple Car is still several years away, with production slated to begin in 2024.

At the same time, Bloomberg says Apple is continuing to work on a third-party system for integration with other manufacturers, and could still switch its plans to back that effort instead.

Either way, it appears Tesla has nothing to fear from Apple for at least the next few years.