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Windows 8: Is It Worth The Upgrade?

    October 29, 2012
    Zach Walton
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Windows 8 has been at the forefront of discussion for the weeks leading up to its launch on Friday. The company says that Windows 8 is the future – a world where traditional desktop computing and touch computing can live in harmony. A future where all your content is at your fingertips at all times. So is the future worth it?

What do you think of Windows 8? Are you going to upgrade? Let us know in the comments.

Windows 8 is drastically different from anything else on the market at this time. The usually conservative Microsoft is taking a big bet on the general consumer this time around instead of catering to its usual enterprise crowd. It’s that bet on the consumer that may hurt its enterprise adoption.

The most obvious change is the new start menu. Upon booting up, Windows 8 now presents you with a screen of multi-colored blocks called “Live Tiles” that feature all of your content front and center. All of your music, videos, pictures, games and more are made readily available for your consumption.

The same goes for apps – a major driving force for Windows 8. Microsoft wants to emulate the success of Apple’s App Store with its own Windows Store. It’s a carefully curated marketplace of apps built specifically for Windows 8. A number of companies, including Google, Skype and Netflix, have already produced apps for Windows 8. Unfortunately, there’s still not enough apps in the marketplace to have it replace the traditional desktop operating system.

Windows 8 worth the upgrade

There may not be enough apps for consumers, but some enterprise customers are making great use of Windows 8’s focus on apps. eWeek reports that Twentieth Century Fox has created a Windows 8 B2B app so its customers can browse through all the television series available for purchase. The app also displays information and assets for TV series from within the app. The company said Windows 8 provided them a way to make their sales app “more sexy and exciting.”

There are numerous other stories of enterprise customers who are using Windows 8 apps to connect directly with customers. For instance, Rooms To Go, a furniture retailer, built a Windows 8 app that its salespeople use at stores. With it, the consumer can add what they need to a virtual shopping cart and check out without having to carry anything around. The consumer friendly approach of Windows 8 is seemingly a good fit for consumer oriented businesses.

Will Windows 8 be good for consumer focused businesses? Let us know in the comments.

What about the enterprise customer with a large internal workforce? Microsoft is already forcing these businesses’ hands by making Office 2013 only available on Windows 7 and Windows 8. Those who are still using Windows XP will have to upgrade to at least Windows 7 to get the latest features.

Windows 8 worth the upgrade

Microsoft sees the upgrade as only a good thing. ZDNET reports that Microsoft Australia business group lead Tina Flammer says that Windows 8 is positioned to handle the “top worry” for CIOs – managing a mobile workforce with a broad range of devices. Whether or not that’s the top worry, Microsoft is confident that businesses will come around to Windows 8 sooner or later because it offers advanced security and management on “no compromise devices that everybody loves.”

Windows 8 worth the upgrade

No matter how much Microsoft spins it, however, some businesses still can’t help but feel that Windows has abandoned the enterprise market. Doug Johnson, head of risk management policy at the American Bankers Association told Reuters that “Windows 8 is, frankly, more of a consumer platform than it is a business platform.” He went on to say that “there is really no additional business functionality that Windows 8 gives you that I can see.”

Windows 8 might have been more popular among enterprise customers if they didn’t already have a better alternative in Windows 7. A lot of enterprise customers are just now starting to move off of Windows XP after Vista failed to excite them, and nobody wants to move to a new OS so soon after an upgrade. Besides, Windows 7 is more familiar to Windows XP, an operating system that employees have probably been using for over a decade.

The move to Windows 7 may be the last major change among enterprise customers for some time. Michael Silver, an analyst at tech research firm Gartner, told Reuters that he expects 90 percent of large organization to not “deploy Windows 8 broadly.” Even worse, he expects only 20 percent of PCs in large corporations to be equipped with Windows 8.

So, it all comes down to one question – should you upgrade to Windows 8? At the moment, it’s not really worth it. The operating system doesn’t have enough going for it to make the upgrade worth it for consumers or enterprise. The app store is relatively barren and lacks a number of important apps – Facebook and Twitter – that are important to consumers. The amount of work required to retrain an entire workforce to use the new start menu and a desktop without a start button would take too long and cost too much.

With that being said, Windows 8 shows tremendous promise. The current Windows 8 apps being built for consumer interaction are pretty exciting. Building those apps, however, require the kind of resources that not all businesses have or are willing to spare. Microsoft will most assuredly work on making Windows 8 easier to deploy across the workplace, but it’s going to take some time.

Do you see Windows 8 benefitting your business in any way? Or are you taking a wait and see approach? Let us know in the comments.

For consumers interested in Windows 8, Microsoft is currently running a deal where existing Windows XP, Vista or 7 owners can upgrade to WIndows 8 for only $39.99. As far as Windows goes, that’s a fantastic deal that might help Microsoft gain some traction among the consumer market. As for enterprise customers, you already have your own special option.

  • http://www.crosslinktech.com Karl Egenberger

    Not likely to upgrade. Probably good for bored consumers but not for business. Not worth the learning curve. A better way would have been to ask customers what they want and need. Looks like a useless gadget.

  • http://www.crosslinktech.com Karl Egenberger

    Not likely to upgrade our business computers. There in no real benefit, just cost.

  • http://gavinbrooks.com Gavin

    Yes I shall upgrade, I agree with change and do like the benefits of having a syncronished multi-device platform system.
    Windows 8 brings the future closer…

    • Bradley

      yes but what if you don’t like the windows phones then that takes away from the usefulness.

    • intrepix

      Just wondering how Windows ME and Vista worked out for you but then if Windows 8 is a benefit, how is it that MS came out with Windows 8.1 or was that just another example of how they provide a beta OS in transition ?
      Fact, I have Windows 7 upgrade which needs to have Windows XP installed with all the SPI, SP2 updates which include all the related drivers, bios settings and Directx, etc.
      Problem is once you get all of that done, you discover there’s a 15 pages of directions on how to upgrade Windows 7 using Windows media transfer and another drive. What MS doesn’t tell you is, what comes next. The endless updates that won’t install, the bios changes, the driver changes, the error codes, the blue screen and this is a prelude to what comes with Windows 8 upgrade as Windows 7 needs SPI and another long line of needs that won’t install, can’t install but they provide plenty of error codes to which they “suggest” how to find solutions to. If this is your idea of the future, I’ll opt out for something that actually works like ANY of the Linux choices which include Apple because it just works without the eye candy, the bloatware or somebody’s idea on what the future brings.

  • Nextcoves

    Its a bit like an old tart masquerading as a young one. Unfortunately all the old wrinkles are still there, just behind more cosmetics.

  • lowbug

    For sure! Have you seen it its a work of art!
    Very impressed, going to be rolling out win8 across our estate :)

  • Angy

    It’s ugly.

  • https://dukeinsuranceagency.com/ Duke Insurance

    Microsoft, Google and Facebook have become time-eating monsters that are zapping productivity. Just as we get setup to be effective, one of them changes the game. Help!!

  • http://www.konzertkarten-und-tickets.de Andrea

    I will use it.

  • http://www.konzertkarten-und-tickets.de Andrea

    very good, I’ll use it.

    • intrepix

      Seems to be an echo going on with your post but then do you really believe anyone actually cares what you use ? If Windows ever had a time when it was without problems, I fail to remember when or what version although I saw Windows ME and Vista as being nothing more than a cash grab. I suspect MS is working very hard on coming up with another version that will fill everyone’s dreams as they continue to fill MS profit margins with more cash.

  • http://www.seoexploration.com Fred Morgan

    Having lived with Microsoft since 3.0 and NT up to win7 I used to appreciate all the new attributes and styles as they changed and got better (maybe not vista so much). Win8 does not offer me anything that I need as I don’t want a facebook, twitter, google+ type platform to work from. Great for the sellers peddling their wares which I don’t want to deal with.
    Looks like Win7 is where we get off the train and stick with Win7 and maybe revisit the unix – linux platforms for future growth.

  • michael

    Money for microsoft and hardship for me to change.

    • SHIVAKUMAR

      Yes I agree it is really drastic change from win XP to win 8 I really like it very much

  • http://dailyprayer.us Mason Barge

    I installed it, and I’m sorry. I wish I had Windows 7 back. I like the way it looks just fine. The problem is, they have tried to turn the desktop PC into a tablet.

    This is the worst Windows OS yet. (Well, maybe the second worst after Win ME.) Just shutting down the computer now takes four steps instead of 1 1/2, and it’s not at all intuitive.

  • http://www.e-rabatkoder.dk Rabatkode

    I’m not likely to upgrade from Windows 7 until a year from now. I’ll first see that windows 8 is as perfect as Windows XP and then would upgrade.

  • http://www.digitalfocus.co.uk John Snowden

    Just another tired role out of the same basic programe warts and all. Why go to the expense of upgrading when there is nothing new in the makeup or delivery, if you want to use FB and the rest use it, it is still accessable through the normal channels. I think Microsoft could become great if they bug proofed the software that is available before they try another platform full of them. My business is happy with its platform, it has been stable and running for a few years upgrade after upgrade has made it fairly bullet proof, so I and my company will not be adding to MS coffers on this one.

  • Chris in Chicago

    Windows 8 may be the push I needed to switch to Apple.

    For a long time I have considered switching to an Apple computer. But I resisted because I was so used to the Microsoft-based products. Since Windows 8 is such a radical change from Windows XP and Windows 7, I may as well make the change now.

    Plus, there have to be other benefits switching to Apple if I already have an iPhone and an iPad.

    Thank you, Microsoft.

    • intrepix

      It appears you’ve came to the same conclusions as I have as its either, or when it comes to MS Windows. I have had every version of MS DOS, Windows and I believe Microsoft Windows will forever be a Beta OS in transition. I bought into Windows 8, don’t like it, don’t want it and I sure don’t want to try 8.1 as the reviews are worse than Win 8 and they didn’t impress me at all. Its time to consider the choices, the costs, what you really need and how big the learning curve might be. Meanwhile, Windows 9 will be along soon enough as MS will be looking for another cash injection and Win 8 or 8.1 isn’t going to meet their expectations. Repackage with some new screen shots and voila, another MS version appears

  • Anthony

    I will NOT be upgrading. I am very disappointed that they chose to make the windows OS more like a mobile device. I understand it has a “Desktop” mode but it is still not like a desktop, no traditional start menu, you must return to the stupid Metro to access programs. Why didn’t they just build different OS’s and let us chose what one works for us in our own hardware. Or at least made the desktop mode a setting that is permanent with a start button. A business is more suited for the traditional windows desktop with a desktop computer. It makes no sense to have an OS made for touch controls when 100% of your uses require mouse and keyboard control. It also makes no sense to have an OS made for mobile device on a desktop computer. Are we living in bizarro world here? What’s next, will microsoft come out with a smart phone or tablet that has a standard mouse and keyboard?

  • Craig

    I run a pc business proving support and new systems for both home and business users. None of my businesses are likely to upgrade and we wont be selling it to consumers unless they really want it. We pride ourselves on knowledge and support levels and windows 8 will make this more difficult for us in the short term.

  • Janet

    We send out info to 300+ health and social care providers twice each week, on 50 weeks of the year. Trouble is I cannot yet standardise on a .docx format as some of my customers have not yet upgraded to Windows7. Sorry Microsoft, this is a very bad moment to try to get businesses to upgrade – the money to do so just is not there. So until all of my customers have upgraded to windows 7 I cannot do so – Windows8? forget it!!

    • Jake

      Janet,

      With regard to you .docx issue, it is not necessary for all those recipients to upgrade to Windows 7 or even a new version of Office. There is a free download called the Compatibility Pack which will allow any Office user to view the new .docx, .xlsx, etc. files. Or, heck, just save your files in an oder format so that there is no issue to begin with.

      Just like everythimg in the world, there is a solution. If people want to make things difficult, that is an option too. But I find more people complaining about things that are moot, and if they would take 10% of that energy to find a solution there wouldn’t be a problem.

      I don’t see myself moving to Windows 8 right now, but not because someone thinks it is an Apple rip off (by the way, Apple have ripped off just as much as MS over the years…read up on their corporate history), or because it doesn’t have a start menu (who cares, most people I know don’t even know what s Start Menu is, or because it is targeted toward touch-screen devices. I like 7 and I think they blew it by releasing it so soon after 7. MS just doesn’t communicate within their own company. They are so huge and so powerful, they just don’t care anymore…and unlike Apple (and I am no big fan of them either…don’t get me started), they don’t understand consumers. So, although I think 8 has plenty to offer and it may find its niche, it is just poorly planned, poorly timed, and as usual MS just misses the point completely.

  • http://ithinqware.org Dan Elliott

    Here’s the thing. Since windows 95 MS has rested solely on it’s ability to ripoff apple.

    Now, 5 years after the iphone launch, they make their own play for a unique OS and phone integration.

    But since ripping off apple can end up in lawsuits, (samsung) they’ve stuck their neck out on a hail mary pass.

    Bottom line. The ship has sailed. And there’s no room for MS.

    And a weary Nation sighs relief.

  • VJ

    Heck, I’m still using XP and may till the end of time.

  • Vote for Romney Idiots

    All this talk is putting me off from buying Windows 8. No start menu? Doesn’t work like XP or Windows 7? I don’t even have a freaking cell phone. I don’t like to be bothered while on the road so I’m not too familiar with this mobile like interface. I’ll be checking out Apple. I loved Windows for years.

  • Alexey

    I’ve tried and tested Windows 8, conclusion: I will not switch, because I think this OS is developed more for tablets, not for desktops (very uncomfortable UI). So, I’ll stick with Windows 7, and if Microsoft won’t release something new in 3-4 years, I’ll fully switch to UNIX-based system.

  • http://www.blocktar.com/ FreeStar

    Upgrade to THAT? LOL! Microsoft seems to have shot itself in the foot with this one (again!).

    It’s a joke. It’s ugly. It’s useless to my business or anythinmg else I use my pc for. I want the ease, beauty and productivity of a Win 7 pc. If I want a tablet I buy one.

    When I need a new pc I’ll buy a Win 7 OS on a disk with it, then lock in a safe to keep it accessible until something better comes along.

  • Billy Bob

    Bought a Win 8 laptop the other day as I needed a new laptop but actually gone straight back to the stop with it as after reading all the reviews I could, I much prefer Win 7. See ya Win 8!

  • Gregory Hallam

    No way will I upgrade. I want the immediate and hard access to the guts of a computer that can do some serious haulage … not some dumbed down tabletesque touchy-feely finger jabbing to a Fisher Price Toy computer limited to what a tablet can do. Microsoft will lose billions through this as hard core users and companies desert the OS in droves. I will hang on to Win7 as long as I can and then probably migrate to Apple or Linux derivatives. RIP Microsoft. Bye!

  • http://www.flailingmonkey.com Mike Ratcliffe

    Tried it and hated it, what the heck are Microsoft thinking?

    Once there are more apps it will be an okay OS for tablets but it doesn’t make any sense on a desktop PC.

    Catastrophic failure.

    • intrepix

      MS conspires with the hardware manufacturers who play consumer games with their drivers and software. MS comes out with a new OS and they fail to provide the drivers or software which forces everyone to buy new hardware.

      Pushing that agenda along, they come out with new types of connectors, wires, adapters while dumping some of the older architecture which renders millions, if not billions, in hardware to the recycle. I actually had a printer/fax/copier for less than 4 months before I was informed there will not be any software or drivers for Windows XXX. This has been going on for years and anyone who has been paying any attention to the number of updates coming from MS and the major vendors like Nvidia would be quick to realize just how many new drivers come with more bloatware although Firefox, Adobe and a long list of others can barely keep up with all the Windows issues that provide the error’s, freeze ups and blue screens with endless reboots. Spend your cash on a new Mac as Microsoft is exploiting consumers in too many ways. Update this !

  • http://www.businesscarddispensers.co.uk/ jt

    I think 8 is for sales. Something “different” just for it’s own sake.
    XP worked well, was accepted by most, and, if they had only made XP
    “impeccable” e.g. with added security and less conflicts, than I think they could have made a winner, called e.g XP-10, or some other name.
    As 8 is, I think they may have alienated many office workers without any
    guarantee of pleasing the consumers. Not a happy choice.

    • Hector in Hollywood

      Microsoft is the master of ‘me too’. Let someone else come up with an innovation and shortly you’ll see MS take a couple of 2x4s, bang in a few nails, wrap it in duct tape and – voila – the new product. Let’s look at history .. Win 98 worked, Win ME crap, Win XP worked, Vista crap, Win 7 worked … you do the math. To further confuse the situation for the consumer, there’s Win 8 RT versus Win 8. Gimme a break. Half baked marketing reflects the half baked code. Most of our fleet will remain on XP Pro, a few will be allowed to Win 7, zero are migrating to 8. There’s a good number for you, ZERO. As in MAC 10, WIN 0.

  • Mark Bluemer

    I really don’t get why everyone hates it. I mean maybe being a teen I’m more open to change but I tested Windows 8 Consumer Preview and absolutely loved it….ON A DESKTOP! It’s plenty smooth with a mouse and keyboard and everything (and I mean EVERYTHING, from start up and shut down to switching between programs) seems much faster and smoother. I also think it’s a great idea to make one OS that will work on everything from your smart phone and your tablet to your desktop. That’s truly the universal use of technology that’s needed for the future. And yes, the windows marketplace may start out a little empty but in Windows 7 you don’t even have access to apps! For desktop and laptop users apps are just added bonuses. And for everyone who hate the MetroUI on a desktop, you don’t even need to use it. Think of it as a full screen start menu.

    So seriously, stop hating on Microsoft just because you don’t welcome change. They’re thinking toward the future of technology and I think that’s exactly what should be focused on.

    • Anthony

      There is no “apps” on a Win 7? They are called software, Apps are just software applications, so yes there are thousands of apps available.

      You DO have to use Metro, how do you not use it and then treat it like a full page start menu? What we’re talking about is added steps to get to anything, thus making it more complicated and longer to get anything done. I think another commenter said it takes an additional 2 1/2 steps just to shut down.

      I also don’t agree with the universal os argument. With any device, it’s about the application of the hardware, what it’s being used for. If I’m using a tablet for mobile uses, it may be great, if my main use of the hardware is for business applications, it does not make any sense. It makes just about as much sense to use a universal engine to power everything from small cars to giant buses or trucks and bulldozers. Your OS should be refined and optimized for the uses you intend to use the hardware for.

  • Dee

    They are trying to control the PC – lock out others and call it security, make you purchase from MS with them getting a % of sales, yeah right, I’ll never use this OS. I like the freedom.

  • Joe

    Absolutely love it. I can safely say that the vast majority of people commenting negatively here have not actually tried it for real. That’s for sure. I use both Win 7 and a Mac and mark my words, this is far and out the sleekest OS you have seen so far. Computing as it should have always been. Just love it.

  • http://www.cool-and-quiet.co.uk/notebook_and_laptop_cooling_tray_C129.html Ryan Smith

    I’m on the fence on this one. It feels like I’m so happy with Windows 7 that I won’t see any benefit from upgrading to Windows 8 (even with the £25 upgrade deal available at the moment). Although it does seem to be primarily for the consumer rather than the business I’m not sure that I can see myself being really happy with having to ‘train myself’ to figuring out yet another operating system. I’ve tweaked Windows 7 to my exact needs and I know that I’ll feel very despondent once I switch and have to retrain myself to familiarise myself with Windows 8.

    Whilst writing this I think I’ve just convinced myself to stay with Windows 7 until absolutely necessary to switch to Windows 8. Hopefully that change will be later rather than sooner.

  • DC

    As a business user already upgraded to Win 7, and satisfied, happy, from all that I’ve read and heard, it will be a bleak, cold day that I go to 8. Why do people change? Have Microsoft and Adobe, etc., all the software folks, have they all forgotten why people change? People change because they experience limitations, great limitations at times, and are open and looking for something better. Not just because the software people started with a model of business that was based upon frequent upgrades, because the software was getting better and better, solving problems, really enhancing capabilities. They’ve hit the wall of the learning curve. To make a better word processor than the current, hard to imagine in the extreme. I’m not a stick in the mud, and I do like Windows 7, but I could have stayed with Windows XP for another decade with no problem or complaint. It worked. I wasn’t unhappy. No interest in Windows 8.

  • http://renowakinggirl.com gertie

    I am definitely upgrading, mainly because I am due for a new computer. Fast Company did a recent article about Windows 8 that sold me on the upgrade. Windows 8 is not just an OS, it’s a new way of thinking that puts design at the forefront. We have hit limitations. It is time for a design-oriented platform. I recently upgraded to Microsoft 2010 and I was shocked at how much time (and money) the switch saved me. I can do things now in one click that used to take five. Of course there were a few hours of frustration, but once I got the hang of it, it was like driving a luxury car. No way am I going back to the beater! I played with Windows 8 in-store and there’s not much to be concerned about. The classic view is a button away. For enterprise customers, an upgrade to touchscreen computers with Windos 8 could mean fewer work-related injuries, fewer breaks, etc. The touchscreen allows use of different muscles, giving your mouse arm a break!

  • http://taylodl.wordpress.com Don Taylor

    Win 8 is not a big bet on Microsoft’s part. It’s a design by committee OS trying to appeal simultaneously to both the consumer and enterprise markets. It’s missing the mark for both. In the enterprise market the largest competitor is Win 7. And since many enterprises have only recently migrated to Win 7, at great expense, they have no stomach or money for upgrading to Win 8 in the near future. Meanwhile in the consumer market iOS and Android devices are well-entrenched – with hundreds of millions of sales world-wide. The consumer market is also very price-sensitive and Microsoft has positioned itself as being a premium brand though it has little history of delivering premium products. And let’s face it: WinRT is not a premium product. Which is ironic. The Surface hardware appears to be pretty good but the software is lacking. Isn’t Microsoft supposed to be a software company?

    In the end, new machines will be sold with Win 8 pre-installed and since millions will be sold Microsoft will claim success. Too bad we, and their shareholders, know it’s a Pyrrhic victory.

  • Ken

    Windows 8 offers no benefits Windows 7 doesn’t provide me. Even if I was buying a new computer I would custom order it with Windows 7. The only place Windows 8 might be successful is on tablets and PCs with touch screens. If you don’t need the touch, by the time you disable the unnecessary components you have Windows 7. Absolutely no reason to upgrade.

    • Michael

      I have to agree, Ken. Windows 8 is not something I am interested in having on one of my desktops or laptops. If [and when] it comes down to it, I’ll switch to Linux full time.

  • Jan Greeff

    Happily, I’m out of this. My free, stable, virus-free Linux-based Ubuntu is serving al my needs, thanks very much.

  • SpamExterminator

    if I wanted a SmartPhone I’d buy one. The only thing that may B cool about it is the touch screen but hey guess what they had them all the way back to windows 98 if U buy the right screen and install its software.

  • Steve

    I love Windows 8! As usual with dramatic ground breaking innovations from Microsoft, Linux did it first. Ubuntu, far and away the most popular Linux based OS, released a new version with a touch-screen-centric user interface in April. Like Windows 8, it can be used with a mouse and keyboard but was not designed for that purpose, and represents a major regression in UI usability and workflow efficiency on desktop machines. Some users like it – principally, those who use their desktop computer as a media portal and shopping venue, and rarely if ever use a computer for anything more complex than composing e-mail or posting on Facebook.

    As the older “built for desktop users” Ubuntu 10.x approaches the end of its life cycle, users are abandoning Ubuntu en masse to avoid the Unity desktop. Most of them are migrating to other Linux distributions like Mint, that offer all the convenience – and the massive Free Software repository – of Ubuntu, but focus on user productivity rather than user exploitation.

    Gartner recently projected current trends to predict that by 2016, Microsoft will lose its position as the world’s most widely installed OS vendor. But they did not take into account the likely rejection of Windows 8 by many formerly captive markets among desktop computer users. Independent usability testing indicates that long time non-technical users – Microsoft’s more reliably locked-in market – find the Windows 8 interface confusing and counter-intuitive. Those who test drive before they buy are likely to look for alternatives to Windows 8, because they will fail to figure out how to use Windows 8 on their first attempt.

    In the consumer market, Apple products have never been as popular as they are today. In the enterprise and technical arenas, the major Linux distributions are way more than just “ready for” the desktop – they already beat Microsoft on performance, usability and TCO.

    Ubuntu’s management and developers are fully committed to the “desktop is dead” paradigm, and it has broken the back of their enterprise. We can only hope that Microsoft’s real competitors are already gearing up to exploit a similar backlash against Windows 8, and will grab a major – dare we hope dominant? – share of the productivity oriented enterprise markets.

    When Microsoft loses, everyone wins. In the enterprise, Microsoft drives costs up, security and reliability down. No one escapes Microsoft’s destructive impact: All of us share one Internet with the rotting, crumbling, worm and botnet infested Microsoft family of operating systems. Every botnet infected machine on the network is running a Microsoft operating system, and those botnets are the primary source of spam, phishing, and denial of service attacks.

    Because it can only reduce Microsoft’s market share, I love Windows 8!

    • Derek Porter

      As a dedicated Linux user, I have to agree regarding the Ubuntu Unity desktop. It is a pain and it looks as if Win 8 has followed suit.

  • Maddi

    Contrary to what people think they want, I think Windows 8 is a good idea in that it is more similar to the smart phone and tablet operating systems which seem to be the way things are going. I’ve gotten so used to using Android and I think that will help me migrate to Windows 8. But I’ll be waiting until I need a new computer and peripherals which will be a few years yet. By then there’ll be more aps and less bugs if it proves buggy.

  • http://www.adovationz.co.nz Digmen1

    Yes, as a desktop only user I love Windows 7.
    Unless I hear of amazing benefits that I need I would not bother to move to 8.
    It is getting harder to find new features for OS and Office type products.
    Why not just make the OS code smaller and faster.

  • http://www.boneart.co.nz Don Campbell

    Not for us.
    Our PCs are workhorses not toys so why would we want them looking or working like the smartphones that are a pain to use as well.
    We have literally a hundred links to sites and apps we use daily for our work on the desktops all nicely grouped to fit our individual work flows.
    Windows 8 offers us nothing over windows 7 but a more cramped workspace with its tiles and certainly no extra features that a business would need for PCs.
    Probably good for tablets but we don’t use them and that brings us to the next issue for us. We are photographers and graphic artists and have spent thousands on special monitors for that work. The last thing you want to do is get grubby fingerprints all over a monitor you are trying to use for accurate colour proofing etc. so the whole touch screen thing is a waste of time for us.
    Microsoft should remember that in business in particular the whole touch screen, apps for everything, media/social media focus, smart operating systems and apps that THINK they know what you want to do or write next is nothing more than an annoyance and distraction for people trying to do real work. Leave that for the toys, the phones and the tablets and let us have an operating system that does what we want, when we want and how we want.

  • http://www.kenavellino.com Ken Avellino

    Windows 8 is an excellent OS with a poorly thought out UI. Touch screens in a desktop environment are undesirable interface. After moving your hands and shoulder up to touch the screen extreme tiredness and eventually pain develop. If carpel tunnel syndrome has been a problem what till users see the problems trying to use a vertical touch screen becomes. The Windows 8 UI will be a great hit in the tablet and phone market, but a poor and dangerous choice for desktop users. I predict that at some point MicroSoft will create a “standard” UI for Windows 8 maybe call it Windows 9 and give users a choice.

    As a desktop user I don’t see any reason to migrate and the user interface gives me a very good reason not to become a Windows 8 user.

    • Todd

      If windows 8 is all about touch screens like it seems to be in the advertizements then there is no point in it. Since the job market is so bad and I can’t find a job that pays over $10 an hour, I can’t afford to buy a touch screen…lol…I do get tired of Windows Vista and its blue screens and crashes, but this UI looks like it would be more of a pain in the *&%$ than its worth. I wish I could afford a mac.

  • http://www.netcommercial.net Netcommercial

    As a person who uses their computer to render video. I am not interested in having all my media front and center for one. Having it cached and ready to go. Sounds a lot like an outlook program running in the background. NO THANKS.
    I am still using XP pro and just now that Win 8 is out, I think it MIGHT be safe to get WIN7 with pk1. I do use Win7 on my laptops but do not use any of the so called new features available to it. As far as upgrades go, I only upgrade if it is absolutely necessary to open something. Even at that, I still have to decide if the “juice is worth the squeeze.” Meaning is the thing that is asking me to upgrade or install, worth my time and creating a restore point. Microsoft may lose many businesses to an Open Source O.S. Although the money is in the trend it seems. Might be a good time for that ‘other’ open source O.S to step in?…

  • Bob

    I will not upgrade to Windows 8 unless I have no choice. Windows 7 was bad enough that I spent several days making modifications to make it work the way I want to work. From what I have seen, that will not be possible with windows 8.

    First of all, I have a lot of programs that I only use occasionally. Why would I want to have to wade through all of them on the screen at one time. I want to have quick access to the ones I use regularly and then be able to get to the others as I need.

    Secondly, a touch screen works fine for a tablet or smartphone but makes no sense when using a desktop. From what I have read, windows 8 does not work all that well with a mouse.

    Also, I tend to have several windows open at any given time. According to what I have read, that will not be possible with Windows 8 (I thought the idea with windows was to have WINDOWS!)

    I will be taking a much closer look at other options such as linux but do not see much likelihood that I will go the way Microsoft is trying to force me.

    I will use win 7 until such time as I can find an alternative OS that will do what I need and let me do things the way I want to.

  • Lisa

    I have been using Windows 8 for several months and will not ever go back to Windows 7. The interface works absolutely flawlessly with the mouse (despite what some people have read), and the ability to see active tiles on startup before working on the desktop is fantastic: I know what to deal with and where to go prior to opening any program. The ease of moving between the two interfaces is ideal and the extra screen resolution is perfect for work. Any programs I want to have installed but not showing on the start screen I install and then remove the tile. Just as I removed the icon of others on the desktop or removed the entry from the start menu. The speed improvements, the far greater useability, the mixed mode (best of both worlds), the enhanced security make Windows 8 not just a better choice than Windows 7, but the only choice. I use it both at home and in the enterprise and every end user I have applied it to is up and running within 10 minutes to an hour (depending on skill and intelligence level). The usual anti-Microsoft garbage (just try to imagine where computers would be if Apple had dominated – actually you can see it with ipads – still the same as when launched with no real innovation) and the fear factor of the unknown are really the only issues here. Every program I ran on Windows 7 runs flawlessly, including legacy 16-bit apps. All my games run better (including Oblivion and Skyrim) and my home machine is now getting on for 4 years old. The full version runs far better than Win 7 on my Samsung tablet and the touch screen interface on RT is fantastic, the windows is a little clumsy in some aspects but that is mostly because I was still trying to use it in mouse-mode rather than touch mode. As usual, the same round of MS bashers emerge with each new OS explaining why they will never use it: if you are still on XP why even commend? Really – you like an outdated OS with massive flaws that can’t handle new software or new hardware, that’s your issue. You like Win 7 – but bagged it out when it came out. You bagged out Win XP when it came out. Win 8 is very enterprise ready, more so than XP ever was, and when combined with 2008 R2 or, even better, 2012, it is a fantastic OS that needs to be used for longer than 5 mins to be believed.

  • http://theakurians.com Colonel Robert F. Cunningham

    “The most obvious change is the new start menu. Upon booting up, Windows 8 now presents you with a screen of multi-colored blocks called “Live Tiles” that feature all of your content front and center. All of your music, videos, pictures, games and more are made readily available for your consumption.”

    Obviously they didn’t learn a damned thing from AOL’s original index page … filled with every clap-trap the screen could hold … guaranteeing a long waste of user’s time searching for whatever they needed …

    Do these people lay awake nights thinking up new ways to be stupid the next day? Government does and it must be contagious!

    Colonel Robert F. Cunningham,
    Albuquerque

  • http://thafederation.com Mr Shank

    I am happy with Windows 7. No need for an upgrade.

  • http://Mabuzi.com kevin

    Another upgrade!!!! Like Adobe you keep paying and paying for more.

    Will these desktop apps steal your data like the twitter app did on my i-phone without permission?

  • Joe Reichert

    I put Win 8 Pro on one desktop – liked it so much that I put it on 2 more desktops and a laptop. This thing really rocks. Just take a little time to learn the ins and outs of the OS. You will be rewarded with a fine computing experience, better than any other.

  • fos

    wouldnt touch the thing with a mouse on the end of a baseball bat until we see if it actually works with anything but spy ware.
    My advise, if you realy want to get it, keep a complete back up computer with xp working before relying on it before you spend hours and days getting it to work with anything.
    Or get an Imac

  • fos

    just had a look at it
    It looks a little boring

  • Jim

    I have tried windows 8 on a 7 year old desktop. We have 2 laptops and another 3 year old desktop, none of which are touchscreens. All of our computers run Windows 7 (perfectly fine). I really don’t see the point of installing a touch screen OS on any of our machines, it just doesn’t make any sense. Maybe Microsoft should have realised this. I have no plans to run out and purchase a tablet or touch screen PC. Good luck with this one (Windows 8) Microsoft, I don’t think sales are going to be near as positive as your experts predict.

  • bob

    I love Windows 8. I don’t own a touch screen and don’t need one for the office. The sheer collaboration between both desktops while on the go is awesome and what I’ve been wanting ever since the iPad was released. Also, Windows 8 is far more superior to windows 7, better memory management, better SSD optimization and better performance. I feel Microsoft has outdone themselves with this version, I haven’t been this excited for an OS since windows 95!

  • John D Baines

    No thanks.
    This is in the category of ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!’
    I know 7 is not perfect, but to me the 8 set-up is much less so. With RT and 8, and desktop versions, its a ‘bit of this and a bit of that’ there’s no consistency except that you’ll get rotator cuff syndrome instead of RSI!

  • mike

    Why Bother ?
    Spend a load of time moving from 7 to 8 just to help microsoft pretend to be apple??
    Most of the tablets available can’t run full 8 or outlook – what is the point if I can’t have my database with me?
    And why o why release microsoft surface tablet without the facility to go mobile without screwing around with your phone – I was running a business of a Psion 3A and a Nokia mobile in the mid nineties – these people have no idea what going mobile is!

  • Angy

    Had a look at it today. Screen resolution makes it useless for one of my two notebooks and unlikely for the other; Basic specs make it a poor fit for the basic desktop. No good for my current smartphone, which covers between 30 and 45% of my work -(I’m short-sighted, and the screen size is easy for me).

    The price for W8 apparently grants one license only. No clues as to whether my favourite non-MS programmes – office suite, graphics, email client – will work with it.

    Pretty front end. What else is there??

  • http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/shimmy Shimmy

    Well I upgraded, and in terms of metro style I regret.
    The file explorer and the over all performance is great tho.
    I just can’t get used to the nasty start menu that occupies my entire screen with huge ugly buttons.
    I prefer small mini icons, I prefer leveraging screen space for better productivity.
    I think MSFT did a terrible mistake. The metro style should be for tablets, not for PCs (or at least make it on demand).

  • http://Facebook DL

    I upgraded. Got a discount deal since I very recently purchased a laptop with Windows 7 on it. I am less than impressed. IE10 sucks. Most of the preloaded apps do not connect or just do not work. I have yet to connect to anything remotely resembling an “App” store. It seems to me that if you are going to release a new product, you would want it to be FULLYU operational on opening day. There are two desktops with a laptop. Most of my programs have to run on the Win7 desktop. I like the design, if I could actually get everything over onto the sleek new design, but, I guess I will have to wait for Win8 SP3 or 4 to get there……….

  • Bill

    Reading through the comments I see no reason for me to upgrade. Recently we reluctantly upgraded two computers in the office to Windows 7 and are still trying to adjust to that. The cost for upgrading programs to work on Windows 7 was more than the computers and one all-in-one printer/scanner/copier still does not work properly.

  • David

    As a professional developer building apps for Windows for 25 years, and after a modest hands-on with Windows 8, I found myself frustrated and irritated at the new UI, looking for at least something to anchor myself to the familiar desktop. Once I found this Win8 “hybrid” desktop, I realized something – if I spend all my time in the “upgraded” operating system looking for a way to interact with the “current” version, what is my motivation to upgrade? The Metro UI is geared toward users, not enterprise or corporate desktops, meaning that Win8 in its current form may never see the light of day in our business. Having already decided that any tablet I eventually purchase will be Android, and having no practical reason to move to Win8, I see myself satisfied with Win7 for the foreseeable future, and will recommend that to those who ask.

  • http://invisibler.com/ donottrackme

    It is worthy the upgrade, but not now; At least not before there are more apps and MS fixes the problems about compatibility.

  • John

    I don’t have touch screen so I won’t upgrade. I use Windows Xp and it works fine, and Ubuntu works fine too, no different than windows for me, so I will only get Windows 8 when I buy my next computer.

  • http://www.zkarlo.com Ziggy

    I’m not saying that Windows 8 won’t be good, but Microsoft’s history shows that every other OS is bad. Essentially, they release beta OS’s like Windows ME and Vista that have a lot of bugs, then they release the good version after that like XP and 7. So, if this holds true, we would be best to wait till Windows 9, which will fix all the bugs of Windows 8.

    • http://wexfordpress.com John Culleton

      Even after they debug it a lot of commercial users will resist as long as possible. Consider the retraining cost of staff and IT folks. But MS won’t abandon the new interface. Too much bucks and too many egos already invested in it.

      Came across a vendor at a dog show that was taking pictures of dogs and then oilifying them. Program ran on Win 95!

    • Andy

      You seem to have missed Windows 2000 between ME and XP here….

  • cort

    just upgraded a couple days ago. I sure wish I DID NOT, as it sucks. everything is different and all over the place. Windows 7 is 100 times better then crappy 8. that’s my opinion. SAVE YOUR MONEY.

  • John

    I’m waiting. I’ve always said that having the start screen be optional, allowing a non-full-screen variant, and allowing it to be configured for mouse users would make it less odious to the desktop crowd.

    It’s entrely possible that MS will come to its senses in SP1 and allow for some configuration which will enable a better compromise for those who can’t (or don’t want to) go full touch screen just yet. If that happens then I’ll consider upgrading.

    • http://www.delitech.info Dewald P Montgomery

      The Start screen actually works fantastic with a keyboard and mouse. (And pressing the Win key is just about as much effort as moving the mouse to the former Start button and clicking). I admit my fears have been completely wrong. It allows zoom out, quick scroll, instant search for not only programs but also files (just by typing, as in the old start menu), rearrange tiles in groups, move tiles, et al. Many wonderful features. The only thing that annoys me still is that I can’t directly send a shortcut to the desktop, but must first “open file location” and then send the shortcut from there. But try it – it’s not that bad. I got used to it in less than ten days!

      • http://w3tut.org/blog/c/windows damu

        nice! I am waiting for my mouse to arrive before i upgrade on my laptop. very excited!!!

  • Inverterd circle

    Windows 8 is not worth upgrading for me.

    I have only had Windows 7/64-bit for a little over 2 years. Over that time, I’ve finally become comfortable knowing how to tweak settings.

    (1)I have no interest in learning a new operating system, unless I’m forced to.
    (2)The interface looks incredibly childish. I am in my late 30’s, not a teenager that enjoys being inundated with dozens of apps staring you in the face. I realize that’s exciting for some, but not for me.
    (3)Really now, removing the start button that has been there for how many years, through 3+ operating systems? I understand the ever desire for change, but that type of change is just silly. The shutdown option is now inconveniently hidden under settings, but first you have to reveal it with a mouse swipe? No thank-you.

    Based on the approach Microsoft is taking, I am actually contemplating, for the first time in my life of switching to OSX. Yes, it would take time to learn, but so what. Perhaps there’s something to these Apples afterall.

    Or I just take a pill and skip this operating system and go have a beer!

    • SoCal71

      If it took you over 2 years to get comfortable with Windows 7, OSX will clearly be over your head!

      • Joel1245

        SoCal71, he probably meant ‘since that time’ instead of meaning to say it took him two years to get comfortable with Windows 7. Common sense buddy, common sense.

        • Hugo

          Osx is a great choice for anyone who wants to stay in the dark ages. Windows innovates (windows 8 is unlike anything before) but Osx has hardly changed in decades. I am much more productive on win 7 than I was on xp – not because of the technology, but because of the convenience. I couldn’t imagine going back to a closed ecosystem like Apple osx

  • http://ephedrinewheretobuy.com Mike Budd

    Definitely not, I have too many bad experiences adopting the new Microsoft OS before they fix all problems, probably in two years depending on people’s feedback.

  • Michael Forsberg

    I really think that one should have the option of booting into Metro style start screen or traditional desktop. Now, you are forced into Metro start! It just seems kind of clunky and “Fisher Price”!

    • Joel1245

      Yeah, I’m holding off. I hate the Windows 8 metro style. Sticking to Windows 7 since I just upgraded to it when it came out. I don’t feel like just because Microsoft feels the impulse to jump to the latest style that I need to as well. Besides, I tried the public release of Office 2013 and wasn’t impressed. Aside from the Metro style being applied to it, most of the functionality of Office 2010 was the same. I don’t want to buy a new OS from them and find out that all they changed was how I went about doing something. I’ll wait for them to work out all the bugs and see reviews to decide.

  • http://www.e-lynks.com James Vaughn

    The young Turks who design online access protocol obviously believe that their audience thinks and acts as they do; not so; we PC users, both young and old, need a more conventional graphic interface. In short, we need a printed menu, not the hidden touch-screen access they are touting.

  • Davefgranger

    Well I’m using Windows 8 right now, and (and appreciate that this is entirely subjective) it’s wicklesticks!

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  • http://www.bepenfriends.com albert

    I am using windows 8 impressed with its speed of loading. But i am not happy to see my live id used everywhere. I never trust microsoft privacy policy.

    Because of this online data sync (who knows what), i am not happy with windows 8

  • Ray Harding

    I have been using it since the first previews and I must say that once you get used to the new interface it’s quite refreshing (it’s no use sticking your head in the sand- that’s progress)! It’s very internet orientated and the live tiles are brilliant and to have so much active information on the screen at once is brilliant. For all you dinosaurs- the same old desktop is but a click away! Open your minds and give it a go. By the way, I am normally a Mac user but I am not “blinkered” and can get on well with both systems. The boot up time of W8 is way faster than W7 which is a huge plus as far as I am concerned.

  • Hugo

    You say that win 8 doesn’t work for the enterprise, but it does. It seems to have lots of features that enterprise wants, such as hooks for line-of-business widgets that make people more productive and more comfortable using the computer. For us geeks, win8 is disruptive because it is different from xp and win7. For a lot of people, win8 is more approachable and makes more sense. And that applies in the workplace as well as at home.
    We forget – there are still millions of people who don’t understand a start button or a mouse – much less why the keyboard isn’t in alphabetical order!

  • http://facebook.com/willzco Will

    Windows 8 is virtually identical to Windows 7 save the start menu… its a gimmick and a desperate one at that, in response to google and ubuntu’s success or whatever… anyway no point in upgrading unless you enjoy an extra step to get to your desktop or several just to shutdown your computer…

    • Robert

      LOL! Your kidding…. right? Microsoft just BEAT Google to the unified operating system finish line. Google SHOULD BE concerned because Windows 8 will naturally drive consumers to look at Windows 8 phones.

      Google can seem to figure it out.. they are now changing the tablet interface to more closely resemble the phone experience. They see the writing on the wall and are probably concerned. Windows 8 tablets are bound to take a slice out of the Google pie.

      I love Google Fanboys who cry about Microsoft. You simply can’t count Microsoft out because they always seem to bounce back.

      • http://www.eatlovepray.me eatlovepray

        Windows 8 is worthless for PC. Meaning, it’s not worth it. However, Windows 8 is a huge step forward for tablets. I would love to have Win8 as an option on my Galaxy Tab 7.7. The Android OS is basically useless for Tablets.

        Android belongs on mobile phones. But it feels washed down on tablets.

        Would I upgrade to Win8 on pc? Nope. But if my new laptop comes with it, fine. But it would be useless for non touch-screen devices.

        Would I upgrade to Win8 on my tablet if it was possible? Definitely.

  • Robert

    Thankfully Rooms 2 Go did that! Last time I was there I was EXHAUSTED from carrying around the bedroom set!

  • FutureProof

    If your PC came preinstalled with at least Windows 7 Home Premium it is supposed to work better with Windows 8 for things like boot times, responsiveness and power consumption. That is if you can overcome the hassles of an upgrade with software and driver compatibility issues instead of a clean install.

    Real issue surely is if what you get is it really worth all that the hassle anyway.

    Wouldn’t be suprised if a Windows 9 or whatever is more successful because it gives more killer applications everyone will acually want.

    Perhaps like Toshiba’s research into creating 3D for TV’s without needing the glasses for PC screens as well?Yet thats still supposed to be some bit away.

  • John

    Windows is for those not smart enough to operate Linux, and who can’t afford the simplicity of a Mac. Take some time to learn how to operate a computer, and you will see Windows doesn’t even began to compare with Linux in terms of security and reliability.

    • Sean

      Typical flippant remark from a freetard with too much on their hands to do anything but learn how to use it. I want to use my PC to get work done, not fight with a distribution to get basic OS services working.

      • http://Derp Derp

        I tried all three Linux, Mac and Windows. Mac is simple but limited. You can only do what Mac tells you to do. Linux gives you all the freedom but you also have to set everything up by yourself. every single driver which I found too annoying in the end. Windows however can do everything that regular user needs. I personally hate mac and linux.

    • Sean

      Look at the bright side – at least it’s not Linux.

      • momo1526

        Not worth the upgrade unless you have a touchscreen. I tried Windows 8 on a PC made from left-over pieces on which Windows 7 worked great, and Windows 8 was really much slower. In comparison, Linux is much better than both in terms of speed and stability, but not compatibility, so I went back to a Linux/Windows 7 dual boot.

  • http://Windows8Isitworththeupgrade Michael J Lee

    My last computer had Windows Vista with both Service Pack 1 and Service Pack 2.I just bought a new HP Pavilion p7-1235 that came with Windows 7 Home Premium and I am so exited how fast Windows 7 is working for me.I am extremely hesitant about going to Windows 8 and I might wait till the last day of January if I decide at all about switching to Windows 8.Windows 8 needs to work out the bugs like what they did for Windows 7.
    Michael

    • http://Windows8Isitworththeupgrade Michael J Lee

      I am adding to my last comment regarding how I had Windows 7 Home Premium with my HP Pavilion.I wasn’t aware that I would have to purchase a Smart Screen and since everyone that has posted a comment on this site has said so I don’t have the funds to make that kind of purchase at this time.I live on a very limited income so I’ll stick what I have for now.

  • hermit

    I downloaded the program, Start8, to bring back the familiar start bar.
    GO to: http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/. It only costs $4.99. It has settings to eliminate the charms bar, which I have found to be uncharming and annoying. You can also eliminate the Metro start bar with all those big ugly buttons that launch apps that I do not need or want to use. So now when I boot into the Windows 8 preview, it goes directly to the desktop and looks exactly like Windows 7. You get the features that you liked and wanted in Windows 7, and get the extra speed of the Windows 8 operating system which supposedly has better security than Windows 7. I also have added back the games from Windows 7 and Vista. Goto http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/ to find out how to do this. And if you miss the Gadgets from Windows 7 and Vista, there is a program to fix this. It is called 8GadgetPack.
    I now call this version Windows 7.5.

    8 loads faster and shuts down faster then 7.

  • Eric

    My favorite OS over the recent years has been Windows 7. I have no plans on upgrading to Windows 8 since 7 has worked so well for me and will be supported by Microsoft for years to come. I’ve worked with OSX, Linux as well and Windows 7 besting both of those in my opinion. Windows 8 looks nice for tablet users. I owned an Android Tab at one point and sold it on eBay because I couldn’t stand the Android OS (or their app store for that matter).

  • Peter

    I have just send my copy back sor a refund. It went all through the install insisting that I remove or modify some of my programs. Got to the end then said it had an error amd reinstalled Windows 7. It did this twice and that was enough for me.

    Reminded me of Vists! I will wait until the bugs get ironed out.

  • Mike in Hanford

    I just bought a new HP it has windows 8 and it sucks, another vista type garbage being touted as wow by MS. Don’t subject yourself to unneeded frustration, It’s joke to go through your files. There pushing 8 extra hard like they did vista, If was any good they wouldn’t have push the advertising so hard. Be smarter than I and don’t buy windows 8. Now I have to pay to wipe the MS8 OS off and reload with 7. All I have to say is Mac is looking better everyday, and I don’t care for mac. Thanks Micro Stiff

  • Jeremy

    I am a computer consultant and have purchased and thoughouly tested this OS by installing many apps that were previously installed on my Windows7 OS. I did a clean install, not an upgrade. I followed the instructions to make certain that all the apps that I would install were compatible.

    Within a 24 hour period my computer completely crashed 6 times! Also, it had a constant display of various error messages. Windows 8 is in fact just another Vista. Custom built computers are the way to go, any reputable IT person will tell you that. Don’t buy computers at a retail store, you’re just wasting money

  • Mary Plotz

    Just bought a new Dell w/windows 8. Don’t do it. It is terrible. No more ease of adding favorites. very difficult to go backwards to your home pAGE. Hard to find how to print anything. Just don’t do it. Yahoo tool bar completely disappeared and says it is not compatible with 8/ I hate it. So much clutter that I will never need. Who cares what the temperature is in HOng Kong? Not me.

    • lmaonade

      That sounds awful, but i think i’ve solved your problems for you. Printing, click the wrench. I figured this out after a few minutes, as there are only like three buttons on the screen to click, so it had to be one of them. The Yahoo toolbar is gone? You used to have it before? That’s great news. I’ll get ahold of 1999 and let them know that you have it, I’m sure they’ll be thrilled. As far as the clutter, just right click on it and get rid of it. You can have the whole start menu be empty, like a fortress of solitude. As for the temperature in Hong Kong, I feel your comments racist and short sighted. I’m pretty sure the people in Hong Kong and surrounding areas are very interested in what the temperature is there. If you’re not, you could, hell I dont know, click on the weather app and tell it to use your location? Unless you like to be mad.

  • Masood

    I am using windows 8 prewive last 4months and now want to know how to buy it.
    I wAs working on win7 32 bit and installed win8 32 bit so all my things from time of windos98 all working well
    Unfortunately I have not touch screen which is really needed for win 8
    1st time windows button working on key board. As my I friend above said difficult to reach home screen it is not true as just press window button on key board u r at home and go now where ever u like
    I like it and I am looking to buy it if some one can helpe as I installed win8 consumer per view on my new lap top.

  • alton Sunday

    Windows 8 is a joke. It is designed for touch screen not a regular PC.

    I purchased Start8 and it bring back the regular start menu back. I frankly can’t see any difference in using 7 or 8. Save your money

  • DimWit1

    I am trying to find the Window 8 (Home) upgrade, NOT Windows 8 PRO. Cannot find such an animal retail or at Microsoft. Obviously they don’t want to sell it or it has not been developed. My Acer Netbook will not upgrade fully to Windows Pro and I am not going to mess up my orginal install. I am going to upgrade to a better version of Windows 7, let Microsoft get the bugs out of Window 8. I am not into apps etc., do not have a smart phone, or iPad, so I am out of the loop. guess I am getting to old for every new thing that comes down the pike.

  • Edward van den Heuvel

    I am extremely disappointed about Windows 8. It is an enormous step back from Windows 7. I cannot understand why Microsoft has developed such garbage.
    I am trying for hours to send a simple e-mail from my yahoo account with an attachement and the bloody Windows 8 simply does not allow me to do that. It is a complete garbage operating system, it is extremely user-unfriendly. I recommend everybody to never have this garbage installed on his/her computer. I am very disappointed by Dell having this mentally-retarded operating system standard installed on its new laptops.

  • Stephen Becker

    After 30 years (in a now-previous career) as an I/T Professional, I decided to simply give up on the Microsoft platform altogether (I got SO SICK of seeing “not responding”…) So three months ago I made the switch to a Mac running OS X (8.2) and as one whose first computer was an IBM PS2 running IBM DOS, then years of Microsoft and Windows, I AM NEVER GOING BACK TO P.C. and WINDOWS AGAIN. I absolutely love my Mac and OS X. Solid, stable, no lock-ups, incredibly fast boot-up, even faster awakening from sleep mode, it just works. Every time. It’s logical, easy to use, yet robust. The only Microsoft software I now own/use is Office for the Mac (which is way better than the p.c. version). Some of the p.c. die-hards will probably post angry replies to me for saying it, but all of the politics and that kind of stuff aside, take my advise. Just dump Windows altogether.

  • Joseph Ramirez

    I am not using a laptop, so why would I want to run software designed for a laptop on my PC??? HELLO MICROSOFT, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING???
    NO, I REFUSE TO BUY AS NEW COMPUTER, There is nothing wrong with the one I have!!! Make an OS that is just as effective AND WORKS without compromising the machinery!!! User friendly? I don’t think so. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” And I don’t mean the same old OS with a new look!

    • Anonymous

      Cheap ass bitch!

  • Onkar

    I’m 12 years old. I’ve used Linux lubuntu, xp, 7, and I am considering going to win 8. I don’t know if I should upgrade to windows 8, cos everyone is saying its basically.. Crap. Idk so someone plz help me…… I don’t want to waste my saved money…. And my time.

    • Onkar

      Is it a fail… A bit like vista?

  • MCzar

    I upgraded my BootCamp on my mac from windows 7 to 8 yesterday and I personally think it isn’t too bad. It’s basically integrating the phone with the computer. I had the same issues when Apple did it sometime ago but it kind of grew on me and I don’t think it’s too bad. Yes the start button is missing so that classic feel might be gone, but never the less, I don’t think Windows 8 should be categorized as the worst update. Overall the flow, the onscreen apps are good (found TuneIn radio, just like iOS and Android) and some other ones. Of course lots of time is needed to expand the small amount of current apps, but that’s always how it is in the beginning.

  • Kenji101

    Well,, I got a chance to play with windows 8 on a new laptop recently. First time going in to seeing it in person with reading reviews on both positive and negative. Honestly, it’s not near as bad as those who seem to cry because of the way it changed. Windows 7 is a fantastic workmanship in my opinion. Things worked and actually is compatible with XP stuff that even vista was fail to do. Windows 8 actually does the same thing,,, it runs all of window’s 7 programs and drivers so those who think they need to replace their printers n what not, you don’t. The start menu was actually a nice touch. Replace a button with your main desktop as your main, with all your apps, your news, your main daily thing you use and a desktop second. Those who actually can’t live with out a desk top, you don’t have to fear, there is a desk top on their as well. Second, having a touch screen laptop or desktop really doesn’t matter on the OS. Yes it’s a very nice touch, but its not needed. yes it is mainly designed for it due to it being from windows phone and tablet, but the functionality works the same using your mouse as u would your finger on a screen. Downfall honestly, again this is in my opinion, that the app store still isn’t up to par as were it should be by now, all the apps they developed over time from the launch of windows phone 7 and tablet, are the same to PC. Does not mean they will not improve though over time. second is the customization. It’s not really that big of a deal but it would be nice to actually choose witch tiles I want to expand on my start menu then have the tiny ones. Dumb I know but it’s my opinion. So far that’s really all I see currently. Rest they have time to fix the small minor stuff now that it’s still coming out of the box. Worth the upgrade.. Not really if you already are happy with your hardware now, but if you are like me and just went to a electronic store and tested it out first hand and you think it’s an improvement then do so. Regardless hardware wise, if you can run windows 7, you can run 8 with no problem.

  • Steve Grogan

    I have used PC for many years, since the beginning of windows 95. I have always be a fan and have always supported windows. I love windows 7, but windows 8 I am still on the fence about.

    1. No DVD Playback
    2. No BlueRay Playback
    3. Haven’t quite figured out why the App thing with desktop users. Telephones are one thing and a Computer is another.
    4. They should have made a Desktop Version only, no apps or at least the ability to do so.
    5. Finally, I personally think it’s all about the money and not about the user anymore. They want everyone to pay for all the add-on apps and the ability to use certain programs. ( Like Media Center for instance.) So I will be going back to windows 7 unless Microsoft decides to change this greedy behavior.

  • http://logbookloansquotes.co.uk/ logbook UK

    I have already used the beta version and i was hoping that microsoft will make some improvements in final version but i was disappointed to see that there was no major changes, and and i think i will waste my money for just the look when i already have window 7, and i am happy with it.

  • george

    bought neew pc with windows 8 had windows 7 cd and i switched back as microsoft wanted to chartge me to get windows 8 pro to het windows media center its for lap ops and seft phone users not pc,s

  • chris

    I’ve been using windows for years, and i’ve grown attached to the familiar start bar, moving the mouse around the desktop, and using a user-friendly system. But windows 8 just changed the whole view of windows. It looks more like an Xbox than a Computer. Also, i don’t want to buy a computer that does the exact same things as windows 7, only with a new look and a few changes. When Windows 9 comes out, i’d like the old interface and user-friendly system to come back or i’m switching to Apple. Windows has almost completely lost my attention now.

    • Herbert Pasveer

      Hello, I ready your comment about the start button. I agree with you about Windows 8, and I removed it from the computer. But the problem with the start button is easlily solved. The start button can be bought for about € 5,-. Just go to Stardock.com.

  • G

    This os is terrible “get rid of it Microsoft it’s a White elephant and you will make everyone hate you” people like backwards comparability what gamer in his right mind is gonna install this for the next decade unless they can play all Thier games on it just over a phone, it’s like they are forcing everyone to upgrade their phone and pc at the same time and none of their old stuff will Hardly work and rip everyone off with apps, an iPhone works with xp never mind apples current os and all the functions on their new hands sets need windows 7 at least witch is fine and backwards friendly I just got a lumia and found out all this and to be honest I going back the shop for the iPhone five upgrade from my ipone 4 even though it will cost me at least they ain’t trying nail my bank account by charging me for loads of new apps because I won’t be able do anything on my new os and phone jog on Microsoft I hope you you all get I virus you and your computers

  • Hammy

    It’s crap. Upgraded a perfectly good windows 7 pc last night. All worked, apart from f-secure, guitar pro and some other programs.

    Played with it a bit, found it annoying but it worked.

    Come this morning, started up and hung – the annoying twirly things for the egg timer, just froze. Wouldn’t do anything. Try getting the old F8 – even shift+f8 to get safe mode – forget it, you need nuclear timing. Eventually got safe mode after an hour trying. Back to normal start – froze again…after 7 hours eventually logged on….but mouse didn’t work…no applications would start, desktop wouldn’t start…nothing…absolutely nothing. Eventually doing a ‘refresh’ but expect my applications to go now…..
    This is worse than Vista and that’s saying something. Biggest pile of shite MS have released. Now I have one laptop that was working perfectly well with WIn7, but now is sodding useless…thanks MS….thanks for nothing. WHat a stinking heap of shite you ahve produced. I will stick with Win7….

  • Anonymous

    Win 8 breaks compatibility with many XP and pre XP based programs. Actually I have not gotten any programs written for Win98 to run at all. For enterprise most modern versions of programs have code left over from those days, and it wont run. Basically if you have a 64-bit code, it will run, but early 64-bit and most 32-bit stuff are broken.

    Pass on this one, wait for Win 9 or 10, assuming MS actually figures out that a PC OS is a wholly different animal than a tablet-phone OS.

  • http://www.onlinetv.com Randy Penn

    Windows 8 is the essence of a complete surrender of your identity to Microsoft. From the fact that it forces you to register at their site to their intrusion into your Skype account it is designed to pass all your information to vendors who will pay for your information all the way to governments who only need ask to get all your records, sites visited, software on your system, emails and passwords. Once you use it or any of the apps you give up your rights to privacy on those programs.

    Microsoft also built in a kill switch for those who try to skirt the issues and install programs Microsoft do not like. After all you only have their limited license which allows them to take it even while you are in the middle of an article or if you bought the software or not.

    There is almost nothing that will run on the system that you used to use unless you pay huge upgrade fees, eg; outlook, word, access, photoshop, etc.

    It will not install itself as a 64 bit system if you were running NT at 32 bit – which a majority of people have. To get the advantage (if any) of 64 bit you have to upgrade to the 32 bit, do a whole bunch of gyrations for several hours, then spend another several hours reinstalling it and any applications that still may run or not.

    The system is in constant touch with Microsoft recording your every keystroke and sending that information on to companies they partner with and governments who merely have to watch a screen fed by Microsoft for information they might find “interesting.” They will store that data for 5 years even if you install other operating systems. Try unplugging your Internet and see what it does.

    With Windows8 Microsoft, vendors and governments know who you are, who you bank with, how you move around, and what you are doing all the time, all in the name of making shopping much easier for you. Is that what you want your desktop operating system to do?

    • SI

      You must be a sociology major.

  • Gamma Sharama

    Dear Consumer,

    This is a “Forced Technology”. Its MS’s imitation of Apples All-in-One Eco-system where the consumer is forced to use MS’s products and to have a MS Login.

    Bing will never replace Google.

    The most missed out part is the Start button. We all hate that MS.

  • Consumer

    I was really thinking about getting W8. But I soon felt that it was going to turn out as a failure, kinda like vista did (in my opinion). Windows would get tons of complaints, then make a newer, better windows that would be worth the money. I think that windows 8 is just an expensive Guinea pig. Save your money people.

  • DarylS

    I upgraded a quad core desktop PC from Win7 to Win8. On the plus side it runs a little quicker and there are a few useful new features.
    The negatives include – making it difficult to get administrative control of my own PC, pathetic search function, it died after a day and deleted 45 programs (as apparently you can get apps to do that), after reinstalling all 45 programs (and re downloading their updates) I installed a shell that let me access them without scrolling through page after page of tiles, I’ve slowly worked out how to reinstall my shortcuts and settings, and managed now to do full backups (standard only looks at apps and user data, not other directories).
    I’ve now backed up over a Tb of data and settings twice in two external drives, and am coming to terms with it. If they ever bring out a version for adults I might re upgrade to that, otherwise I have my data backed up, Win 7 disc available, and will format if sufficiently annoyed. I have to put up with the limited functionality of apps on my tablet but refuse to use them on my PC, so have not registered with the MS apps shop. I’m sure other vendors will provide proper programs for my needs.

  • Garry

    I have purchased a new Sony Vaio laptop with Windows 8 and Office 2010. After using it for a couple of weeks I have gone back to my old PC. Windows 8 is all over the place and many of the start tiles have issues. I can see if you have a touch screen it may be better but not for me.
    Screens open and close seemingly at will, I have no problem with using a new operating system if it offers advantages but unfortunately Windows 8 does not and that includes shutdown the PC, when you find out how.

  • Dave Siviter

    Windows 8 On Tablets Mediocre on Laptops Horrible. The scale of the error will go into the history books in the same chapter as the EDSELL or “New” COKE. I have been wrestling with it for about six weeks now. Apart from the really important programs that don’t run well like Adobe the interface is absolutely horrible. It seems like the MS team sat down and said lets forget about smooth, intuitive and a pleasure to use. Just build something different that we can claim is user friendly and intuitive but is cluttered confusing and completely non intuitive. All of this for no actual improvement in performance and a frustrating learning curve. It took two days to find the off switch. Select a subject like photographs, music or email and instead of a instantly available window and application the whole screen turns into a single icon while the bloatware loads. Graphically it is the difference between reading a fine novel and getting a set of childrens ABC blocks. Windows7 was good you got it right guys but sadly after 6 weeks with Windows8 one can only be left with the thought “OMG what were you thinking”. My advice is don’t do it unless you are buying a new tablet and have no choice.

  • Mitchell Massie

    Windows 8 is terrible. Still have to use my old computer to work. Have spent more time dealing with issues than being productive. Still crashes when it tries to update itself. DO NOT BUY A COMPUTER WITH THIS DEFECTIVE SOFTWARE.

  • Herbert Pasveer

    I have been very disappointed by Windows 8. I bought a new computer, 2 months ago. I need a computer to work at home for my company that is based in another part of the country. Therefore I need to log in in the network of the office I work for.

    This was not possible with Windows 8! Not even after I bought a professional upgrade. This problem was noted in some software fora, but this I only noticed after I had bought the computer with Windows 8.

    Besides, Windows 8 does not operate as handy as Windows Vista or XP. You need more clicks to get to your documents.

    Therefore, Windows 8 has been removed from my computer, and I installed Windows 7. Unfortunately, that implies the buy of a new OS. Waste of money, waste of time.

    Windows 8 looks prettier than Windows 7, and may be more fun for somenone who uses a computer strictly for pleasure. But if you need a computer to work with, dont buy Windows 8.

  • Melanie

    I don’t want to disappoint everybody but I have purchased a new laptop just after Christmas with windows 8, I didn’t like it too much in the beginning but after now a few weeks I really love it. Its different but works a lot faster. My kids love it so much that I finally updated all my computers at home as its at a really good deal right now and now I’m getting my office to change it all to windows 8. I guess everyone has different taste. The shut down button for the ones that is looking for it is also in the log off screen. Its new and we just have to give it a chance plus just like windows xp, after an upgrade to get the glitches out, it will probably be an amazing program. Just give it its chance.

  • Stramy

    After using it for a month I am done with it. I tried to like it, I really did.
    What were they thinking?

  • 8

    I’ve now installed it on half my PCs, & regret doing so. I use Enterprise features like Direct Access on my Win 7 PCs as well as WMC. Now it is one or other, pro or enterprise, but not all the features.

    Feature most requested by my MCSE students: Start.

  • Allen

    Just got a gateway with windows 8 already in it. from the start I didn’t like it. But desided to give a try anyway I figured it be best to learn but most if not almost most options to make pc customized is based on what MICRSOFT want you to pick from. Most used options for past windows are not here and those that are don’t even relate to what your looking for. Windows 8 is a bigger flop than Vista. I have to go to my old computer to get any work done. Poor Bill Gates he forgot about the people and made his software in favor of the venders. forgeting that it was the consumer that made him his billions. My comment Stay a way from windows 8

  • Jeff Nicolai

    I started my computer days with dos 2 and an old 8086 processor and gradually upgraded as the years went along. Windows 3.1, 98, Millennium, XP, Vista, 7, and now 8. Of all of them, 8 is the least user friendly I have ever seen. Nothing is easy to get to unless you leave it on the secondary screen which rather defeats the purpose of the primary screen. It takes far too many clicks to get to anything and has a propensity to leave numerous apps running in the background with no simple “x” to shut them off. My wife couldn’t figure out why she kept getting a low memory warning with numerous unexpected shut-downs. I went through all the ridiculous trouble-shooting tips to find out the problem was with Windows 8 and it’s background apps. I had to go into msconfig and deactivate numerous things that were constantly running. After putting my wife’s pc into the home network, we also noticed a serious drain on our bandwidth. Yep! Win 8 was at it again. Stupid Live Mail and some of the other irritating network programs slowing everything down. More time wasted trying to turn off things. Then there’s the really obnoxious fact that several of my programs purchased for Vista & XP won’t work on 8 even in compatibility mode. Microsoft really dropped the ball on this one. These may be my last pc’s. Mac is looking better every day.

  • jj

    I think windows 8 is the WORST program I have EVER dealt with. If you have a touch screen computer perhaps you can enjoy it and pretend it is an ipad. Sucking power by running these live tiles when you are trying to work on large tasks and real programs is about as dumb as you can get.
    Also – to reinvent every part of the wheel – yet essentially needing to try to find the same key items as you had from other versions. AWEFUL.
    I have proceeded with this stupid program on one of my machines for more than 6 months now thinking perhaps it will grow on me and I will see some benefit. Nope.
    AWEFUL AWEFUL AWEFUL AVOID Windows8