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Should YouTube Have Gained Visibility From the Panda Update?

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  1. We share Paul’s frustrations. I think many of us affected by Panda are willing to do whatever it takes to remedy the problem. Hopefully, Google will respond.

  2. I have been writing for Hubpages for 3 years now and it was really upsetting to see so many good writers leaving the site due to the Panda update. I hope things improve and gets better.

  3. I just think that good articles should not be influenced by the bad ones..

  4. What an interesting thought. It might be because YouTube is all video based, so search spiders can’t really crawl the videos themselves, only the descriptions and titles. How can they penalize something they van’t see?

    • Allen

      I’m with Nick on that one. In fact, I don’t think you can compare a video site with a content site – they’re two different beasts.

      Sounds like Mr. Edmondson is getting antsy watching his company’s stock nosedive.

      I think history comes into play a little too – as a small part of it anyway. The longer you’ve published crap, the more of a slap you take.

      Cheers!

    • The spiders can see more than the descriptions and titles. If we do some experimenting we will see that Youtube are often trying to use software to identify what is in the video. I made videos about website statistics using round objects which Youtube indentied as the sun.
      As for the Panda Update I believe that the problem is a bit deeper than most people imagine. You can only fit a certain amount of content in Google’s first page e.g. Adwords, Youtube, Google Shopping, Google Location and the rest of the stuff which points to natural search. It is the same problem that a website has when it wants to sell many products. We have to choose which ones are more important because having too many products and services on “our” first page dilutes everything.

  5. Hi!
    Thanks for this great article.
    Google updated panda impacted Hub pages negatively.why?
    What should webmasters have to know and shouldn’t be penalized by this update?

  6. Should Google favor Youtube? Absolutely!

    It’s Google’s property. If you owned a McDonalds franchise, you wouldn’t eat at Burger King. If you truly believed in fair play, you’d take your off your Buy American bumper sticker.

    You need to be realistic. Human nature dictates you protect your own. That’s never going to change.

    In the search engine wars, it’s not about being fair, it’s about being the most relevant. The instant another search engine is more relevant to my needs over Google, I’m leaving Google.

    I think farm sites like ezinearticles and hubpages got wacked because they got complacent and were willing to ride the coattails of Google.

    Google is #1 because they take risks. They anticipate what people may be wanting next. Sites that got nailed by Google were sites that didn’t anticipate what Google searchers were wanting next.

  7. I think we all know why Youtube didn’t get affected by the Google Panda Update …

    Mind you, I suppose in fairness to Google/Youtube, videos are so important from an SEO point of view these days.

  8. Joe

    Don’t forget – Google is a private company and really they have no obligation to anyone but themselves. Despite this though, they do value their users, and for the most part do an excellent job of putting relevant content in front of them.

    I think the order of the day here is this – diversity breeds stability. If you rely on Google for all your traffic, you risk getting bitten.

    Also, there are so many people trying to play the SEO system that search engines have to move very quickly to stay ahead of the game. If hub pages are looking for answers, maybe they should ask the thousands of SEO companies who try to bend the rules. There will never be a totally unbiased, transparent search engine. The system wont allow it, and neither will our current business model.

  9. IMHO, Panda is unfairly punishing Googles’s competition, as well as harming a lot of smaller viable and quality sites by deeming them to be “content farms” (or so it seems – who really knows?).

    If Google search is just a marketing arm for Google’s vested interests, that should be disclosed so people could decide to search using another engine where they’ll get an unbiased result.

    You’ve probably guessed. My site is one that has been badly hurt by Panda. Did you know that pandas, though they look really cute, are actually pretty nasty animals?

  10. The videos don’t exist in isolation but rather are surrounded by comments which is essence comment so thus same yardstick can be applied to it. So if quality content is defined by grammar, sentennce structure, then youtube fails miserably. If user generated is dimmed to dilute the quality of a page or site them what makes Google the exception. If the changes were made to produce more relevant searches and videos are part of SERPs should it not be subject to the same standards. Anything less is nothing short of Hypocrisy. You want to put in measures that favour your products but please don’t patronoise the SEO community.

  11. Once upon a time, there was a nice company called Google, which simplified and improved the web experience for all. These day, Google is getting closer and closer to being just another IBM/Microsoft/CA that sacrifices the greater good for the personal gain of shareholders.

    Unfortunately, Facebook isn’t going to save us, so who’s up next?

    Anyone?

  12. Google updates are designed to make money for Google. Has always been so. How ridiculous that my pages are penalized for making money while Google boosts TripAdvisor to the top of the search results, who use the exact same affiliate programs I do! I lost my respect for google at least 5 years ago. They’re a farce.

  13. It does not matter what we think, YT is owned by Google so it will rank automatically higher up in the search engines. It’s us lesser mortals who have to do the hard work and obey the rules. It us who have to bend backwards for big G.

  14. Okay, so both youtube and hubpages both have their share of poor content. But whether or not google owned youtube, it would have remained unaffected.

    Why? Because it is a site that people actually use. People use it to listen to music, learn a crunchy guitar riff or how to mend a bike wheel; and they also use it for entertainment and enjoyment. And we know that’s true. People upload stuff to youtube, as much (if not more) for fun as for marketing. Videos go viral. Has there ever been anything on hubpages that has gone viral? If there has I would be extremely surprised.

    It’s nothing to do with bias. So marketers do use youtube in a spammy way quite frequently, but that’s not its main purpose for the majority of its users. With Hubpages, the only direct traffic to the site is people planning to publish an article(My guess…)

    I think many in web marketing and seo see google conspiracies everywhere, when the reality is that it is only by providing good, relevant search results can google continue as a business. Business is change. Change is good. Get used to it!

  15. Google has recently tried to downplay Panda, noting that Panda is just one of about 500 algorithmic search tweaks Google makes each year.

  16. I think google should reduce the amount of Youtube from the searching result.

  17. I think we all know why Youtube didn’t get affected by the Google Panda Update …

  18. I think also google should reduce the amount of Youtube from the searching result, it’s sometime to much.

  19. Title tag and description still hold its value. While writing these tags we must make sure that our content revolves around these tags. Tags are nothing but gist of that particular page.

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