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  1. False Positive

    Hello,

    I am one of those who feel badly about this algo update as well. I strongly feel that I am a “false positive”. My profile is very similar to many others:

    I have an authority site in my niche. I run a PR 4 / PR 5 site, been around 4 and a half years now. I have thousands of pages. I’ve been mentioned in many outstanding, top media sites, which link to my articles. I also run my site very cleanly in terms of links as I am fully aware of what one bad move can do to harm my reputation, which to me, is even much more important than revenue.

    I run my site by myself. I am the main publisher, one who runs my business at home.

    The similarity I have with other sites like Cult of Mac is that my work has been ripped off often. Many small sites have run my articles word for word with or without citation, and all violating my copyright.

    I have a small section in my site that takes on a data feed, but with supporting original content as well. While a data feed is something widely available and can be republished by any site as well, I find it helpful to visitors of my site as it pertains to things they are looking for. This area is very small compared to the bulk of my site, which were all hand written over 4 years.

    To add insult to injury I am seeing some of those sites that stole my content percolating to the top, above my own content. And in more egregious cases, their content is featured on the first page of a term while my original article is nowhere in sight!

    I still scratch my head over this one as this is the first time over this length of time that I’ve been hit this badly! I’ve lost the equivalent of traffic growth I’ve made over 2 years’ time.

    I just want to reiterate that this is not just revenue loss we are talking about here, but also the loss of one’s online reputation, which is the bigger blow.

    Thanks so much for giving us an opportunity to speak out.

    • The theft of content is an issue Google continues to hide from, we have cited the DMCA many times to Google (in FAXs as Google requires), only to have them blow it off.

      I am sorry you too have this problem and this new update solved little and I see websites with poor or totally irrelevant content and little authority links rising above accurate, authoritative websites.
      Thankfully for us, Google is only a part of our traffic, as we have traffic from Yahoo/Bing, forums, blogs and simply persons who manually have saved us or typed us in knowing our reputation of the facts & deep content

  2. This looks like a 900 pound fluorescent glowing pink gorilla to me, but here goes.

    Google updates their algorithms. They always have. They always will. The small updates occur hundreds of times per year. Big updates happen too.

    John Mu has said that Google does not want the sites who hire the best SEOs to get the best rankings.

    Personalized search scrambles up whatever rankings are left over.

    New competition is only a few button presses away for your current and future competitors. Then they, too, will be mixed in with the organic results. Our niches are now beyond over-crowded in the search engines.

    It is only a matter of time before the next update flushes our sites in Google’s ranking. It may be hours, weeks or years. How is depending on Google for our traffic NOT a suicide run?

  3. We have a very large history site. We have been on the net since 1995 and have all original content with over 25,000 pages. Since the change we have seen a 20% drop in traffic. Its hard to truly understand what took place. In some area like a search for Presidential Elections we dropped from first to third- some other areas are unchanged, but if you search for Civil War we do not show up in the first pages even though we have over 200 pages of original content. We are still getting plenty of traffic and over the years we have done almost no SEO work relying on our content, but its frustrating – the effect is that all the work we have done in the past two years to grow the site when down the drain in one Google change

  4. Michael

    Up until now, I’ve always respected what Google has done for search and I always appreciated what they have done for my online business, but now I am so mad that I am spending all my resources developing content on Facebook. Screw u Google.

    I run a PR6 web site that has been around since 1998. We get > 6,000,000 visitors a year and have 15,000 pages. We are not a content farm.

    I’m a one man show, except for a few great freelancers I use.

    But since late Nov 2010 Google has been knocking me out of my top rankings for my main key words. For much of December, Jan 2011, Feb 2011 I have disappeared for the keywords that I depend on to generate my sales. My sales of my own products are way way down. Maybe over 50%.

    We used to rank #2 for my main key word for most of the last 10 years, because it’s an area we have built our business around. Last week we were not even in the top 40, yet its a field we are experts in and our entire web site is built around it.

    So what does this say about Google’s latest algorithm? I’m guessing their smartest people have already left for Facebook.

    As of Thursday my traffic dropped 30%. I actually considered having to go look for a job.

    But then I decided I’ll focus on Facebook instead.

    Better sell your Google stock. They were great once but now they are in freefall.

    Wow, guess I am really mad at these guys…

  5. Last year we added; in addition to our large database of internet marketing articles; 3 newsletters which we publish and so on… a huge self updating database of articles
    specifically targeted to our audience.

    This includes 4 updates per day ; with specific keyword filtering… adding 75 “channels” to our website; in addition to all our current content.

    We achieved a #2 ranking under “internet marketing” … something we had been working on now for over 16 YEARS! We are called the “Becanada Internet Marketing Center” for a reason.

    Now Google’s “change” wipes this out.

    This is CLEARLY a case of damage to not only my visitors interests; but to my business’ interest as well. Yes; I am using “lawyer’s speak” for a reason.

    Google now controls enough of a the market share of search to be considered an “essential” service ; and should be held to the level of accountability that comes with this responsibility.

    These reckless “changes” in the “public interest” have to stop – THEY ARE KILLING US.
    GOOGLE wake up and listen – PLEASE!

    David

    • Sorry you’re taking a hit. Sorry to all those taking a hit. It sucks to discover a benefit you’ve come to rely on has been abruptly taken away.

      Still, I just cannot fathom all the talk of “Google Accountability” that arises every time they modify their PROPRIETARY algorithm. Google is a business. Regardless of how useful, necessary, or dominant, Google is not a public service. They owe you nothing.

      Google’s customers are not you and the other billion or so websites that have indexed by them. Google’s customers are the people who are searching for content. Google does–and SHOULD–care about their customers’ experiences. IF their customers cannot find what they’re looking for, they will go elsewhere and Google will fail as a business.

      If you were fortunate enough–or clever enough–to enjoy the bounties of Google traffic, you should appreciate that for what it is/was. A boon. Not a “right.”

      If you find yourself out of Google’s beneficent favor, it is completely up to you how you respond. Will you try to learn what the new algorithm is all about and adjust your website to suit? Or will you join the ranks of those who complain that Google’s pursuit of their own business model has unjustly deprived you of the traffic you are so deservedly owed?

      • Guest

        There are antitrust laws for a reason Max. The business world doesn’t work the way you think it or view it. It’s hard for you guys to understand but Google is not just another business.

        • Really? Do you really believe Google OWES you free traffic? Why? How do you see it working? Should we appoint a Search Results Czar to decide which lobbyist’s company gets number 1 rank? Or would you rather we all just vote on it?

          Wait a minute–that’s just exactly what we do.

          Look, Google is not a monopoly. It IS a giant. But it does NOT own the internet, it cannot tell you what to search for, or where to search for it, or what keywords to use, or which links to click on. All Google can do is serve up search results in the way they feel is best for their business. If that means all the poor indignant website owners have to adjust, adapt, and evolve, why is that Google’s problem?

          I actually I do understand the way the business world works. It is competitive. And it is INHERENTLY UNFAIR. I don’t necessarily like that, but it’s what it is. Y’all want to be capitalists, you have to play by that set of rules. When somebody new comes along to dethrone Google (and someone will, someone will) I sure hope all of the “victims” keep getting all the free traffic they’ve come to expect.

          • The problem, Max, is that you are telling the truth.

            To this day, people are still being sold on the idea that having a site and following arcane commandments from some “expert seo guru” will get them high rankings and make them overnight millionaires.

            The problem is, they got duped. Worse, they duped themselves ten times as hard. If the expert seo guru was that smart then wouldn’t he be driving a gold Rolls Royce?

            If it was that easy then wouldn’t we all be driving one?

            They were told “this is how you market” as if there was no other way. They were told “this is moral” to effectively live as parasites off of Google. They fooled themselves into believing these lies.

            I have lived through more of these updates than I want to count. They always end the same – with people surprised that someone else’s business would change their free organic results.

            I’m tired of the ignorance, the whining, the crying, the calls for regulation. I’m honestly tired of SEO as a whole due to people who can’t market without being parasites. I’m tired of the willful ignorance regarding how, when, and why the algorithms change. I’m tired of the sheer blindness to the fact that hundreds or even thousands of other businesses have gone bust in algorithm changes, and I’m tired of Google being blamed because people depend SOLELY on gaming and corrupting the search results instead of hedging their bets and marketing smartly.

            I don’t want to see any business fail. Not like this. Yet, it’s the fault of the supposed marketers who depend on Google to this extent. It’s not Google’s fault. It’s not the government’s fault. It’s the fault of the site owner and/or marketer alone.

    • Okay, assume the government regulates Google’s search engine. Then who gets the #1 organic result? Who regulates the regulators? What if The Man decides that your competitor has a better site? You’re screwed.

      What if Google isn’t regulated? They will change their algorithms again. They WILL change their algorithms again. You’re screwed there, too.

      What if you decide that some other business should spend millions upon millions of dollars to send free traffic to you? What if you decide to open a few books and learn to start marketing your business like a grown-up instead of being a digital welfare case? What if you actually take control of your own destiny?

      What will happen when the next big algorithm change comes? The next big algorithm change will come some day. What will happen then if Google drives supplemental traffic instead of providing your main source of traffic?

      I’m willing to bet you would be working instead of using your idle time to cry and whimper about the big bully Google taking your free lunch away.

  6. Vic

    Amazing, Google in its qwest to kill an insignificant minority is destroying the web. Blackhat marketers have won this fight. Yes, I said “insignificant minority”.

  7. To add to the pain…

    Google is doing this so people are FORCED to bid on keywords/phrases that USED TO provide a person / business’s site with free traffic previously.

    Can you say “conflict of interest” ?

    I think what you are thinking now says it all.
    David

    • I was getting regular organic sales from my website but since Google has changed their Algorithm I am having to spend over

    • STR82U

      I don’t buy adwords much, but I’m not making more money over adsense because of this, for sure.

  8. Guest

    Can you imagine saying to your boss something similar to what Matt Cutts is reported in the article as having said about the update?

    “Well boss, we’ve done this major update to our core product, took about a year to plan it, and hopefully there’ll be a lot more winners than losers.”

    For Google, apparently, this kind of attitude passes for quality control.

    And the SERPs clearly show it, in the lack of quality of many ranking sites, and in the wholesale decimation of many good sites.

    Check out Blekko, people.

  9. Guest

    G’s algo. needs to be heavily regulated by the government. I have no doubt that will happen at some point in the future. This company has the power to bring the world down to its knees with one algo. change if they wanted to. I’m just wondering when the lawsuits from these giants affected will start to rain? Are they afraid of G.?

    • Guest

      Google is in court Monday through Friday due to myriads of lawsuits. And If I’m not mistaken, I think G has been sued before or are currently being sued for manipulating the search results.

  10. STR82U

    I thought we we’re getting ahead for original content bound found one site had ehow right behind it and lost about 43% of it’s overall traffic.
    Another site gets about 65% of it’s original Google traffic after a brief 13% increase in total traffic due to Bing and Yahoo the week before. (Bing and Yahoo still appear strong, have you noticed their differences yet?)

    Still looking through numbers but allot of our traffic is from long-tail/obscure keyphrases which makes it tough to look at without actually comparing all those.

    Among the big keyphrases it seems page rank went out the window for domain age. In some ways that is smart but it does smart.

    • Guest

      JUST STOP USING GOOGLE! Simple!

      • What does he have to do with it? The vast majority of internet users are using Google, until the vast majority use something else, everyone involved in SEO has to keep this in mind…

  11. I run several sites and just like the historical May Update of 2010, the feb 2011 update DID affect my rankings (and more importantly, my traffic).

    What I realised is that after the May 2010 update, my traffic literally disappeared for the sites on which I had some semblance of SEO effort, only to trickle back later, and several weeks before the feb 2011 update, I experienced a surge in traffic! On the other hand, the sites where I had little to no SEO effort, the May 2010 update did not affect the traffic at all either way, and the same for the Feb 2011 update (trickle SE traffic!), which, I suppose, is NOT unexpected.

    The explanation for the surge in traffic prior to the Feb 2011 update I put down to the ranking update that was posted prior to the algorithm update. Most of my pages’ ranks were increased in the update, and naturally, I yielded some good traffic from my months of hard work of SEO.

    Now I do not run content farms and my sites are rather small. Admittedly, neither do I do any PPC programs for any of my sites, just good old organic SEM. That google can acknowledge in one month that I have good content and in the next classify my site(s) as content farms is beyond me, infuriating in the very least. I have in the last few weeks lost literally all the organic search traffic that I had gained during the “surge” and more. (I do lie, I do have the off day when search traffic suddenly exceeds all traffic to my site, but those days seem too far apart and are indeed very few, at least as I write).

    GOOGLE! Some of us depend on you to make a living! GET YOUR ACT RIGHT!!

    • Guest

      STOP USING GOOGLE!

  12. Unfortunately after very careful review of the SERPs and websites that have lost / won traffic, I would say this was not a strong update.

    I am seeing older websites that have lots of great content that I visit on a regular basis getting really hard hit.

    I believe Google needs to be more responsible when releasing updates like this into the wild. Of course there will always be websites that drop, and websites that benefit, but in this case, there was way too many quality websites thrown out with the bathwater.

  13. Whats of real interest here is that Walmart, Target and Amazon online all benefited from increased traffic in this update.

    I am sure that this is because long tail terms previously occupied by content farms is now gone, leaving those mega brands to suck up the free space.

  14. Guest

    Google claims to not be EVIL, but they sure do act EVIL. Over the years I’ve had my site delisted from Google Search for no know reason. I’ve had traffic to my site drop substantially for weeks/months for no reason only to then recover. I’ve had my PR go from 1 to 3 to 4 to 2 to 0 to 4 over the years. I’ve been threatened by Google to having my Adwords account disabled when I didn’t violate their policy. I’ve had my Adsense account disabled when I broke no rules that I know of. I’ve had my ads after running for months suddenly dropped to a poor quality score which kills my ads from showing ever. It’s as if they don’t want my money. If I’m paying Google to advertise my product/service for months, that means I’m making money, which means I’m providing useful product/service to the public. But Google decides this is not the case and kills my ads.

    Google has too much power! As a result, any future business I launch will not rely on Google for any traffic. I

  15. Our site is a city backed site that focuses on Arts & Cultural facilities in our city (think Convention and Visitors Bureau) and ever since we began including aggregated content from a third party event calendar as well as some rss feeds in our community page we’ve seen a 30% drop in traffic from Google, which is by far the bulk of our traffic.

    That aside, we have a lot of original content on our site, though some of our other city partner sites do provide the same information, primarily around parking and maps of the city. But our Things to do and About San Jose sections on SanJose.org are 100% ours and always being added to each month.

    A shame we don’t have the rankings we once did and it seems like there isn’t a way to change this unless we drop our community and event pages, which then means we aren’t helping visitors find events…

    Guess it’s time to forget about SEO and just focus on direct traffic via online advertising now…

  16. Don’t gripe about the big G, do something about it, I’m no techie but if everyone started clicking on adsense ads I’m sure the advertisers would pull away and go to yahoo, msn, or some other place. don’t use adwords. without money coming in, it might make them take notice, BUT alas with the greed on the net I can’t see anything being done,

    It’s a shame that many people spend years building a website and getting nowhere, then the one page wonders advertise and they get all the traffic.

  17. site dissappeared since google algorithm change. totally disappeared from the rankings as far as i can see. google maps still there. strange seeing as i was at no.1 for driving school glasgow

    very disappointed

  18. My site is approx. a year old. It is e-commerce mostly Amazon links. Have worked very hard to SEO it and build proper backlinks and such, was finally ranking well and getting traffic and sales and then last week-BAM google drops the hammer on me! Really pisses me off! the thing that really gets me is most of my organic traffic came from them, the gods of search. Pretty upset right now.

  19. Google certainly has to do something to cut down the faux content but I worry a lot of legitimate small businesses and content publishers are going to get further marginalized by this. Of course, we were already getting marginalized by the link farms! And one thing to know before demonizing Google is that in addition to managing their algorithm, they also employ human beings to test and scrutinize listings.

  20. This article is very interesting…GOOGLE is viewed as all powerful…yet I read a statistic that FaceBook now gets more visitors a day than GOOGLE…the great thing about capitalism is that the “worm turns” and alternatives to GOOGLE will be developed…Remember when NETSCAPE was IT? So it behooves GOOGLE to listen carefully or the market will ultimately bring them down….

    Kent Holden

  21. Guest123

    This is what I’m seeing from this update. I’m glad sites such as Ezines are getting hammered.

    From a programming perspective, is a site with over 1mil pages going to have a ton of compelling content? Probably not. I mean, check out sites such as Ezine, Hub Pages, etc. You can probably find 10,000 articles on dating alone that are all closely related. 95% of the people there submit on the basis of SEO, not quality for their sites.

    The sites that are getting hammered are those that rely on users to submit the content. Most of it is junk, or it’s 40 word articles that don’t deserve to be rated such as forums.

    I’ve been online for a few years now, and my formula is simple. Create content, make it unique, 500 words, build QUALITY links (no comments, directory junk, etc) and you’ll thrive year after year. There’s no reason to create a site with 200,000 pages. Instead, narrow your niche down to 20 other sites.

    The thing I don’t get about Ezine is why they take action AFTER. The damage is done, and Google is trying to spread the wealth.

  22. I know there are many hard working people out there who spend hours on hours maintaining their site or blog on a daily basis. The other side of this is the guy who can put up a minisite with articles, load it with amazon and adsense ads and he thinks he has a turnkey business. Those are the sites I believe Google has targeted, but obviously many legitimate sites as mentioned here in this forum have felt the blunt. I must admit I have a site like I just mentioned , which I put together in about 30 min. I did it for a fast indexing and if it makes a few cents….ok, but there are millions of these indexed everyday, and I would guess Google has felt the clutter with worthless content just loaded for keywords. I am not a major Google fan, but I do see their point…well a little anyway, but I also see the points of the people here who have been unjustly punished for their HARD work.

  23. We put out a very content rich site…each post requires about 20 hours of research and writing. Sites like e-How spend no time putting out drivel that’s generally pretty useless in my experience, yet it clutters up Google’s front pages and crowds out great sites like ours with free and very valuable content.

    But I’m not complaining because we’ve been gaining on e-How and other trashpit sites either way. The algorithm change has had no effect on our site…we’re still moving up in the rankings like we deserve to.

    Google is trying to stay at the fore of search engines, so they need to weed out all the crap sites that waste people’s time when they search or searchers will leave Google. They’re not stupid and they’re not evil. They are big, and successful though.

    With the current “tax the rich” socialist mentality pervading this country, it’s no surprise so many of you are whining though…everyone in the world wants to bring down the US because we’re “the rich.” And many here want to bring down Google for the same lame reason.

    The facts are they’re still the best search engine and they want to remain that way, so it requires downgrading content farms (which lack content).

  24. Google does not like good text, but money is better for him.

  25. I’ve personally watched many Google updates. Over the years I’ve seen some significant changes for both our site and our clients. Our agency site did fine and saw a considerable increase in performance. And a few of our clients also saw a notable increase. One client (Law Firm) however, nearly completely dropped off of Google. Not only did we lose nearly all of our organic rankings, the ‘Places’ account also dropped off the face of the earth. This is BS – especially when we’ve done nothing but white hat SEO. Yes, we’ve done a couple articles and even did an online press release in 2010, but there is no reason for this and it is seriously impacting the revenue stream for my client. All of the rankings were local based (Sacramento) and we’ve seen considerable success with just basic SEO (Google Webmaster Tools suggestions..etc). I love you Google for what you’ve brought to my business, but this one hurts a little and there probably isn’t much we can do about it.

  26. I love Google. Its a progressive creative company. People love to hate the top dawg, people love to criticize #1. If our government was run more like Google, we’d have the respect of the world instead of the hatred of the world. Bing? are you KIDDING? I don’t know anyone that uses Bing. Maybe in a few years BING will be a serious competitor, but Google is so far ahead of the other search engines it will take some VERY inspired creative thinking to catch up with Google, and it will take time. I hope the government does NOT regulate Google, but they probably already are. Whatever your positions are in the serps, we have never in recorded history had access to so much information and as for me, I’m LOVING it. Get rid of the lazy schemers.

    Hail Google!

    Its simple. Write original content. Produce quality original content. What is wrong with the world today? Quality and Originality are so rare nowadays, I miss my old levis, what happened to LEVIS?

    Quality is dropping across the board, and whatever happened to originality and being CREATIVE? It seems the standards of the world have dropped and keep dropping. I hope Google continues to encourage and reward creativity and originality and quality. This ‘rehash’ culture is a lazy scheming pathetic trend. From movies to music to content on the web, quality is dropping across the board and original creative thinking is what strange ‘weirdos’ do. Its seems we are becoming a planet of copy cats, and original creative quality product is now on the endangered species list. I blame spoiled rich kids who never had to do anything for themselves or create anything original to survive, just rehash what those hard workin OTHER people already did and take credit.

    • That one got me laughing. I admit I prefer Google too but Google isn’t Ceaser as in “Hail Ceaser.”

  27. This is the second time in as many years that my site has been hit by Google and one can hardly say my site is a content mill. I agree it is not perfect as far as code is concerned but ALL THE ARTICLES aside from a few are all original and written by myself. I do not stuff my articles with keywords and I write for my audience offering diagrams and photos to demonstrate what I am writing about. Of course my grammar is not perfect but I do spell check and fix any outstanding issues with grammar as soon as I find them. I do not have millions of dollars in capital to throw at a website like others but I do present a good website that is easy to navigate and offers QUALITY information to my readers. E-How and About.com have similar articles but if a professional were to read these articles they would laugh out loud and easily say the articles were not written by a professional but rather a professional writer who probably used my website as a reference and the information offered is vague and scrambled.

    I had several number one positions on Google and have been demoted to lower ranking somehow while the lesser quality sites have been upgraded and are now enjoying some of the number one statuses I used to enjoy. My traffic is down more than 70% from a year ago and so is my revenue which ironically the bulk comes from Google. Of course this is my opinion but I have heard from a few colleagues who agree with me and have read a few blogs that also agree with me. This recent change is bad and increases the low quality results churned out by the Google algorithm. We all make mistakes and no one certainly is not perfect but will Google fix this? Only Google knows that but I will adapt. I am saving my databases and site maps in case Google does change the algorithm all I have to do is revert back to the old database and old site map and I have instantly adapted. Too bad I will have to spend hours working on adapting rather than advancing the progress of my site and updating it with new features.

    Adapting to the Changes! There is no other choice lest we go the way of the buggy whip.

    Richard

  28. We operate several websites that sell knives on the Internet. One of the things I have noticed after the algorithm update is more of the actual knife manufacturers seem to be showing up in the top rankings instead of websites that are actually selling knives. I don’t know if this is happening in other product markets.

    From what I have read the new algorithm places greater weight on who ever was the original creator of the content. I think this is how it should be. A side effect of this however, is when websites like ours sells products from a manufacturer, you get the information for the product from the manufacturer, so a lot of the information on your site is not really original.

  29. I’m just a Dadblogger who ran a PR3 blog with all original content. I post giveaways for various companies, but make it a general rule to not even paste copy that they give me when offering a fully disclosed, sponsored giveaway for somebody. I only endorse products that I have used and enjoyed, and often turn down offers from companies that I cannot vouch for. My inbound links have been growing steadily and my subscribers have more than doubled since the last last algorithm update which pushed me from a PR2 to a PR3. I was hoping to be a PR4 blog which often offers better review opportunities, but instead I was dropped to a PR2.

    My blog is just of a labor of love and the PR drop won’t hurt me financially, but it is disheartening to watch something that I have worked hard at lose rank for reasons unknown. I plan to keep growing my following with good content and hope to get my rank back at some point.

  30. After I heard what Google did, I checked my Alexa ranking and discovered that it had dropped about 15/20%. However, views to the Blog did not slowand continued to grow regardless of the drop in rank.

    It’s possible that I have so many unique posts of China, that there is nothing else out there to compete with searches for specific topics. While building my Blog, I visited many popular Blogs that focus on China and my content appears unique.

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