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  1. There is a paradigm shift in marketing and communication going on that is described as traditional “outbound” media vs. interactive “inbound” media. A characteristic of inbound media (like blogs, tweets, and other social media) is that the readers get to choose what they read – often by scanning – and their loyalty has to be earned.

    Rather than parse whether these bloggers are journalists are not, I think a relevant question is whether the “Obsidian Finance Group” should help the blog gain exposure by suing them? Furthermore, many marketers find the frank discussion of interactive media as an opportunity to engage malcontents rather than wholly discount their opinion.

    I don’t know the details of this conflict but I think new tactics for dealing with these outbreaks of opinion should be developed short of suing the opinion-meisters after the fact. If Obsidian had invested more upfront on inbound media and engaging their developing list of followers in a more personal way, they may never have to deal with this issue – and they would have a cadre of loyal supporters.

  2. Larry

    Legally? No idea. But few journalists are worthy of the name. Too many show too little interest in truth and far too much interest in advancing their own agenda. I imagine same is true of bloggers, though I do believe there to be a higher percentage of truth seekers in the blogging community than can be found in journalism today.

  3. Ok, I love what Jazz said about “tel-lie-vision.”

    Anyway, I’m a gifted writer who have been published in several magazines and work with community newspapers. After 10 years in the business, I now consider myself a journalist even though I have no formal journalism training. I’ve been told that the quality of my work – writing, ability to report a story, and research – is as good as or better than “professional” journalists. Many of these people are not good writers, but they have excellent editors and organizations to back them up.

    I am also a blogger. In my opinion, this medium is great for putting your personal spin on reported news, which may or may not be true. I attended a journalism meeting, and the reporter admitted that they are more concerned with getting the story than getting accurate information. Is that a high standard of journalism?

    And what about those “professional” journalists that are taking a stab at blogging? They are writing big huge news reports. That’s not what internet writing is about. So, just because a journalist is writing online does that mean he or she is a blogger?

  4. Great article . I think that once technology changes the courts need to update their guidelines and classifications. I believe some bloggers are journalists even though not all journalists are bloggers. There are some bloggers who aren’t journalists but plenty who have niche topics are indeed “journalists” in those niche topics. Maybe it should have been called a JLOG and we wouldn’t be in this boat.

  5. Soon as you start delivering sensationalised opinion instead of facts you become a journalist. I for one try to stay focused on facts and leave the trivia to the rest of the press! Have you seen t5he revolution happening here in UK about journalism and hackers? News and blogs should never contain the words ‘maybe’ and ‘could be’ personally I turn off any news that becomes an opinion and I have watched Fox news once for a laugh!!

    • Good point. Although most print journalism is opinion.

  6. If you write like a journalist, if you are trying to be a journalist, you are a journalist. There are good journalists and poor ones, but we aren’t talking quality here, we are only talking a name.

  7. I carry a Chicago Police Department Press pass. Have for awhile. I work as a stringer most of the time. I have been out on those cold wet days in Winter covering all sorts of stories. Then it is those hot days in the Summer when tempers flare on the streets and gang members talk Lead to each other. I carry a Video camera. tripod, lights, and sometime other gear. The other person carries a photo camera and a voice recorder. We have also vests. There are a lot of things that my camera sees that will never get on air. It can record a mothers cry when her child is killed by another child. It can see the blood spilled on the ground where bloggers will never see it. If you go into a big war zone in another country not only do your get to see rotting dead, but you get to smell them. If it is a pitch battle you get to taste the blood in the air. I wonder how many bloggers want to risk their hides covering a war zone? I wonder how many bloggers have been to the place that they write about?
    Maybe a blogger should be called a fiction writer first then somewhere down the line a Journalist?

  8. Some bloggers such as myself are journalists and others are hobbyists who like to share ideas. The medium itself doesn’t preclude a blogger from being a journalist, after all, the mainstream media, both print and broadcast, have blog sites. Also, the electronic on-line method of publishing is just another type of publishing platform and may, someday, be the only method of publishing.

  9. We live in confusing times
    we call the people on tv who read teleprompters..reporters.
    are they?
    The question is ..what is REQUIRED to be a Journalist?

    according to the Dictionary
    1. – a person who practices the occupation or profession of journalism.

    2. – a person who keeps a journal, diary, or other record of daily events.

  10. Frank

    Would be nice to see what was written so one could make an informed judgement, as it stands now, just looks like more of the judicial system overreaching again.

  11. Some are, some are not: however, what is clear is that most of us, including me, do not like journalistic style, would rather hear from each other. That is why Youtube is the biggest television network. Blogging is shorter typically, computers have accelerated us – we want the ‘down and dirty’ and we want it now.

  12. The definition of “journalism” is the work of gathering news for, or producing, a newspaper (ink & paper). I would say that today’s “blog” is an electronic equivalent of a newspaper. So yes, bloggers that gather news and disseminate it (post it) on their blogs are “journalists”.
    (Note: Today most all writers and “news readers” for the Main Stream Media (MSM) are not jornalists but rather opinion givers and propaganda spreaders. Give me the bloggers over the MSM!).

  13. A simple NO to this Question about bloggers vs journalist – Yes some blogs appear to be journalistic but… and Yes journalist do blog but… BLOGGING is simply one person’s take and an idea to express. JOURNALING is a company’s { boardroom } focus, followed by angles, an reviews, then lets get the footwork and see what others and the insiders say as in fact finding, then if there is a story its by whos angle? … and so on. In short, journalistically, there is much more to the rest of the story.

  14. Great question, Chris.

    Are bloggers journalists? I guess it depends on the blog. Most blogs are about opinions and journalists shouldn’t be in the opinion business. Objectivity is a journalist’s calling card, along with accuracy and fairness.

    However, if a blog is about conveying information and hearing opinions from others, and the author keeps objective, I would say that the blog is journalism.

    This discussion invites the real question: “What is journalism?” Journalism is a profession and though no one needs a license to participate, it does have standards that should be maintained.

  15. Regina

    Blogging is journalism told from the perspective of the general public. The content is news worthy if it conveys information not known beforehand or retold through fresh eyes. It can provide complete coverage of the event that perhaps main stream media didn’t think important enough to include in their articles. The bottom line is that everyone has something to add to the conversation and is entitled to their opinion.

  16. By definition a blogger is someone that writes on a specific subject/ category. A journalist is someone that researches a story from various perspectives and then publishes. They are not the same.

  17. mloxton

    They are if they claim to be.

    Just as they could self-select to work for a newspaper, they can also self select to be freelancers either for a newspaper or to self-publish.

    Either way, if they say they are journalists by virtue of performing that role, then that is exactly what they are.

    The judge is confused between “employment status” and “occupation”.

  18. I think it depends on what they’re blogging about. If its something like a stock market crash, ongoing political issue or natural disaster, the yes. If its a one-off post like something about driving traffic to a website, their day at work or a random “tweet”, the no.

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  21. Bloggers are not journalists and it is really naive to even think they are.

    Journalists usually have to go thru a three year tertiary degree level training before they are even allowed to start practicing.

    Then when they get a job, they are given the low level rounds to learn the practical everyday aspects of the profession. This is to protect everyone. Better to let them screw up here in a low risk area and learn something so that they know what to do later in their career where the stakes are higher.

    Of particular importance is the understanding of the laws relating to defamation, libel and copyright. Things most bloggers seem to be hopelessly and dangerously ignorant about.

    They are also taught the necessity to accurately attribute and validate their information.

    Plus they are required to present a balanced view of the issue, and not editorialize or simply sound off on the issue.

    Again this are practices that many bloggers simply don’t follow.

    (And yes I know that the gutter press, especially the British tabloids don’t always stick to these rules.)

    Plus there are professional associations that journalists belong to that among other things ensures that journalists keep their rating up and adhere to the industry code of behaviour.

    So like any profession there are a whole host of qualifications, training, checks and balances, legal and professional requirements that must be followed.

    If bloggers want to be taken seriously then they need to follow the same practices.

    Again, I know some bloggers do practice good journalism behaviour, but a large majority seem to be just venting their spleen.

    Also, saying journalists are a protected class is completely misleading.

    They can and do go to jail, as well as get heavily fined and stripped of professional accreditation for breaching any of the above mentioned items.

    If bloggers think this is “protection” then they are seriously uninformed.

    And finally journalism is a career.

    Blogging, for the most part is not.

  22. I think a blogger could be a journalist in the same sense they could be comedian, fiction writer, poet, philosopher, or critic. The only difference is the medium, i.e. an Internet blog vs T.V, newspaper, radio, magazine, newscast etc

    I write blogs like this one about SecondSpin.com which I admit is total fictional – my idea of a sense of humor about music matters I truly enjoy

    I write blogs like this Bic Sheaffer where I am blatantly selling a luxury product by PayPal on my Blog

    I write blogs like these where I am listing coupons – perhaps I’ll make a few bucks on LinkShare

    & I write blogs like these about my dishonest business experience I’ve had with GoDaddy.com who have severely wronged me by selling my confidential customers service information overseas to the Ukraine

    One of many…
    http://yourmixedstate.wordpress.com/

    I like to warn others about their dodgy business practice to say the least, lest they screw others over too

    Partly I blog these event to vent my frustration at GoDaddy.com for getting away Scott free, partly so i have a record of events as they occur when I’ll need them, & partly to spotlight a warning, so others might be aware of the dishonesty of GoDaddy.com & choose another vendor like NameCheap or Host Gator instead

    Even though I know GoDaddy.com & Bob Parsons are closely associated with ABC, The State of Arizona, & The State of Indiana, I feel it’s just & safe to blog my experience with regards to my small business Inc. as it’s the truth.

    Consumers & small business should be warned about these business matters & pirates like GoDaddy.com even if it’s with what little tools my disability allows. My blog is my voice

    You should not be sued or silenced for telling the truth or standing up to the giants

    Journalism or not it’s freedom of speech

  23. Bloggers can’t be considered journalists just as private investigators can’t be considered police and first aid staff can’t be considered doctors.
    Sure they might be better at it in some instances, but we can’t just open the floodgates by expanding the definition like this.
    I agree with the Court’s ruling.

  24. Peter

    Mr Crum, your writing and your thoughts are a muddle. The law clearly states who is and who isn’t a journalist. First off, a blog is not a real thing. It is a made up word that did not exist prior to 1999. Here is how Websters defines it: “: a Web site that contains an online personal journal with reflections, comments, and often hyperlinks provided by the writer; also: the contents of such a site .” No mention of newsservice.

    No single person and be a newsservice…period. There must be an organization behind them. While a writer is working for the New York Times, they are a journlist. If they get fired and write something on the internet…they are one person writing thoughts…

    If everyone who wrote a blog had the power to say they were a journalist, there would be no checks and balance on facts, and anyone could lie through thier teeth. The courts got this right!

  25. Bloggers are sometimes journalists and sometimes not…but I would lean to mostly yes. This is an extremely tricky case because judges are not media people nor do they understand the intricacies of media law. When I worked on the Michael Jackson case, the judge enacted a gag order which the media lawyer fought hard against which was frustrating. I don’t think judges are qualified to make these decisions unless it is specialty of law that they are well educated in.

  26. A Journalist is a paid employee by someone,somewhere.a blogger is a devoted professional for a cause and he/she expresses a frank opinion!

  27. That’s quite interesting.

    I would agree that many so called Journalists(Especially on Blogs) are too good at all. One Political Blog I was commenting on quite a lot, is known as the most popular Blog(Huge number of visitors, page views, page impressions) in the country. yet the person running the Blog had their credentials questioned on many occasions.

    The person would speak as if they were an authority on just about everything.

    Yet, they were often so far out with their information.

    In a few cases this individual had written up some very controversial posts.

    Due to their lack of professionalism(Too lazy to even bother to do proper research) they ended up on the losing end of court hearings.

    Many people just refer to this individual as an Opinionista. Which actually sounds far closer to the mark.

  28. YES , All Bloggers are not Journalist, But depends on what kind of blog and what is the exp they have in journalism also should be counted.So what about high Pr press releases websites which is officially used and accepted through out world wide. what ever it may be blog or news channel website , Blogger or journalist who ever is giving news timely and help full to public will be highly appreciated. Now a days all news papers and media becomes more commercial, that to in india media penetration is more and highly commercial. they are not public friendly and money minded.

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