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Pennsylvania gun store Pittsburgh Tactical Firearms was running a giveaway for an AR-15 on Facebook, when the social network shut it down without warning.

Should gun sellers be able to run promotions for guns on Facebook? Let us know what you think in the comments.

Few things are causing more arguments these days than guns, and major Internet companies have made it more difficult for gun sellers than for most types of businesses to get their products in customers’ hands. Facebook is no exception.

In this case, Facebook shut down the store’s entire page, though as pictured above, the store has another one that is currently running. That one, however, is focused on survival courses.

According to The Blaze, the contest had been running for a couple months before Facebook shut down the page, along with another page the store had tried to replace it with. The Blaze interviewed the store’s Erik Lowry:

“I still don’t know what’s going on,” Lowry told The Blaze in a phone interview.

Lowry said three days ago he awoke to calls and emails from fans asking where his Facebook page had gone. Lowry used the page to keep Pittsburgh Tactical Firearm’s more than 27,000 followers updated on store and stock information and Second Amendment news.

Lowry has reportedly been sending Facebook message after message without response, though Voativ recently ran an article about gun giveaways on the social network, which shared a statement from a company spokesperson, saying, “Our Ad Guidelines prohibit promotion of the sale of weapons and the Ad Guidelines apply to pages with commercial content on them. Ads may not promote the sale or use of weapons, ammunition, or explosives.”

Lowry thinks the article is what led Facebook to take notice.

In an update, Vocativ shared another quote from Facebook: “Facebook strives to create a safe and trusted environment for everyone that uses our service.”

Facebook’s guidelines in this area haven’t always been the same. In fact, an update in 2011 lifted blanket prohibition of promotions (including give-aways) for tobacco, dairy, gambling, prescription drugs, gasoline, and yes, firearms, as reported by InsideFacebook.

As Josh Constine wrote in that article, “This does not make these kinds of promotions or sweepstakes legal — it merely means Facebook will differ to local laws rather than enforce its own.”

And in some places, such giveaways are legal.

Somewhere along the way, Facebook began taking a different approach. Facebook’s Ad Guidelines can be found here. The relevant section simply states, “Ads may not promote the sale or use of weapons, ammunition, or explosives.” The Pages Guidelines also clearly say, “Ads and commercial content (including Page post content) are subject to the Advertising Guidelines.”

Facebook is far from the only Internet company to have gun-related restrictions in its terms. Earlier this year, for example, Groupon decided to pull all gun-related deals. This caused a significant amount of controversy.

Michael Cargill, a gun rights activist, concealed handgun instructor, and owner of Central Texas Gun Works, called for a nationwide boycott of Groupon, saying his contract with the company had been “abruptly terminated”, after then Groupon CEO Andrew Mason “decided the company would no longer associate with any business related to firearms,” according to shooting sports news site Ammoland.

Last year, Google stirred up some similar controversy when it removed guns from shopping results. Additionally, Google has strict terms prohibiting guns and gun-related products in AdWords.

Are these companies making the right call when it comes to guns? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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  • Gary

    I think Zuckerburg is a whiney little liberal bitch that does whatever Obama tells him to !

    • Me and Me

      Gary….You mad that white girls love my anaconda? I see your ugly user name all over Yahoo.com…Stop with the Obama crap! Obama has been the best president USA has ever had!!

      • Anthony

        @ Me and Me….I think that the only person in love with you or your anaconda is yourself. if you think that Obama is the best president we have ever had, obviously you and your anaconda are way out of touch with reality and need to go back to hiding in the swamp.

        • jim

          the best what we ever had, you messing with something ant

      • Dave

        Obviously you do all your thinking with your anaconda. Otherwise, you would be able to past YOUR racism and realize that Obama is the WORST President ever.

    • amr

      hoareo

  • Jeffrey Bartlett

    Erik Lowry just got a lot of promotion. Good deal.

  • george samler

    goodbye facebook

  • Mark

    I know! They should make a website where you HAVE to promote guns and ammo sales or you get banned. What a great idea. We can call it Liberal hating, jew hating, woman hating, bigoted crackpot club. Lets name it the “Tea Party”.

    • dwdude

      warning! proceed with caution…rabid ows type, the authorities have been notified

    • Conran

      What a fantastic idea!

      Maybe add an element of Christian extremism, and massive hypocricy too though, just to make sure it attracts absolutely everyone on that side of the fence ;)

      Lets not forget, these people are “Libertarians” who also want to criminalize homosexuality, “ban Facebook”, force private businesses to follow their rules while preaching about free market capitalism, and often scream about morality in media while also demanding the right to complete freedom of speech, but only for people who agree with everything they happen to support!

      Yep, they’re Libertarians alright, as long as absolutely everyone is a Bible-thumping, God-fearing, gun-totin’, homophobic, sexist white American.

      ;)

      • Dave

        Spoken like a true Liberal. Ignore the facts and parrot the party line. Good luck, Comrade.

      • Jack

        Ah Ha now the truth comes out you are a Christina and Bible hater!!! Maybe you should join up with the terrorists!!! Oh I forgot you libtards are already doing that!! It is people like you that have been responsible for bringing terrorists over here just like the bombing in the marathon. I saw the photos is was sicking and you jerks love people like this but blame Christians and guns… You are sick and dangerous!

    • Dave

      Wow. Sounds more like today’s Democrat Party to me.

  • daniel shipley

    facebook is such a waste of time. the fact is the people on thier sight don’t deserve a free ar 15. The social interface is free, as long as you give up your rights to your personal information, free thoughts ectra. it is the biggest tool the controllers have and it delves deep into the syc of millions. Any one who delves for hours in the deep expance of useless information bores my mind. what a narcasistic self absorbed society we live in. Wake the shuck up america. go to the shooting range and shoot your t.v. and lets get this nation back on track. It is never the tool. It is all a cultureal problem The most grounded of or sons and duaghters are the ones who can read a trail and feel comfortable in the wild of our great expance. terror is not in thier hearts. For we know terror is something rabbits feel. and then go dodging in choas.

  • Jeb

    Isnt Zuckerberg the same guy who a year or so ago said he only ate meat he killed. What did he use? Another case of its ok for me to have but not the commen folks.

  • Marcus

    Didn’t know you can’t promote weapons on Facebook, but then almost never been on the site. Not interested in wasting my time there, but am curious if this “ban” also applies to the video games/gamers and the promotion of violence, weapons and crime integral to many of those games? My bet is this is, shal we say, selective on the part of Facebook as opposed to being a true policy.

  • john

    i think facebook needs to be banned and all the lazy people on it need to do something productive like get jobs idle hands are work of the devel

    • Dustin

      Are we talking about the users or the people that operate FB?

    • Conran

      I have a Facebook account, a Twitter account, a Tumblr account and more, and I run my own successful business from home.

      I think some posters here need to get some common sense and a bit more of an education. ;)

  • rj

    What is everyone here an idiot? Facebook can’t legally allow any firearm promotion or sale for the same reason a bar tender has the right to cut you off. You go out after you’ve had a few drinks and get in a wreck and kill someone and the bar is legally liable regardless. This has happened over and over again.

    Facebook is a bit bigger than a bar. That means some nutjob goes out with a gun or firearm they got there from a webpage they allowed up and they become legally liable.

    Don’t blame Facebook for protecting their legal arse – blame idiots who go out and shoot people and make it harder for the rest of us. I’ve heard nothing but ‘protect my rights’ on this gun control thing since I was a kid. Well hate to tell you this but there’s a boat load of people out there who are not responsible gun owners. It’s not the liberals who are taking away our guns – - it’s the 1 in every 1,000 gun owners out there who isn’t responsible that’s doing it.

    Liberals wouldn’t have a leg to stand on to take anything away if idiots weren’t so damned lazy (or in the case of a lot of gun outfits I’ve seen) greedy and willing to sell guns to people who clearly aren’t going to care for them, aren’t going to use them responsibly.

    Next time you see someone on youtube drinking with a gun in their hand (trust me there’s a few hundred of these) you should go look them up and have them hand over their gun until they can demonstrate they’re responsible. When the NRA starts policing their own… maybe we won’t have liberals trying to do it for them.

  • Conran

    Oh, this was a wise decision for a discussion WebPro! lol

    Now you’ll have all the conspiracy nuts and pro-gun crazies on here screaming about their rights to be given guns, their rights to kill 100 people a minute if they choose, their rights to live free and happy (with the ability to mass murder) and the Socialist Obama government that wants to put them all in concentration camps! lol

    Facebook is a PRIVATE BUSINESS, and no one can dictate what business decisions they make. As for whether they should or not, I don’t believe they should. These are WEAPONS, whether some right-wing nut-job wants to admit it or not. Their intention is to kill, this would be no different to Facebook allowing a company to give away hand grenades. Why is one okay but another isn’t? They are both designed with the intention to kill – end of discussion.

    Just because some nut case thinks things haven’t changed at all in weaponry or in American culture since that right was written (guns were not the same back then, and they WOULD NOT have given that same right if they had been able to predict how things would now be) does not mean a private company has to allow their business to be used in such a way.

    Good on Facebook for refusing this kind of insanity. If you don’t like it, use another business.

    Note that many of those screaming about all this BS are the same right wing Republicans who demand that anti-gay companies can make a stance against gay marriage and should be able to refuse business to gay people too – always the absolute hypocrites!

    • Dave

      So those who support the right to defend themselves are nuts and gun-crazies ? Since when is protecting one’s rights a sign of mental illness. Welcome to “1984.” You Orwellian control freaks are destroying this country under the guise of your smug Progressive Big Brother beliefs.

    • http://www.hogvalleyproducts.com RON PROFFITT

      Facebook owns the site and they can do pretty much anything they want to.
      I see nothing wrong on a dealer giving away any type of gun, anybody that wins will have to go through a “BACKGROUND CHECK” the has to sent to a dealer of the winners choice and before the winner can pick it up the dealer has to do a BACKGROUND CHECK.

      All these anti-gun people keep saying that there’s know BACKGROUND CHECK on the internet, they are totally WRONG, you purchase a gun on the internet it has to by FEDERAL LAW be sent to a FIREARMS DEALER of your choice to do a BACKGROUND CHECK before you can with that gun, and if its a hand gun there’s a three day waiting period before you can pick it up.

      ON FACEBOOK YOU HAVE TO DO THEY SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. I DON’T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE WHAT THEY DID.

    • Jack

      Conran you should just like a libtard that believes anything goes. Killing babies on demand by the millions, promoting child molestation and calling it gay! Putting it in schools to pervert our children, save an animal but kill a baby by golly!@! But give ride of those bad bad evil guns!!!! You morons invite illegal aliens over here that are raping and killing, also invite Muslims that are killing us. May you reap what you sow and it comes back on people like you a thousand times…. People like you are a danger to society! RETARD!

  • http://webpronews David

    I’m quite certain that they perform a NICS (Background Check) on a prospective winner. And IF that person isn’t eligible to have a firearm due to criminal, mental history or local restrictions,then an alternate winner is chosen. There are just way too many possible legal ramifications otherwise. So from a purely business standpoint,they cover all of thier bases.

  • http://www.campingwithcharlie.com Charlie

    It is not the gun that kills, it is the person pulling the trigger. You don’t need a gun to kill many. The Boston Marathon Bombing proved that. Would it be different if Walmart was giving away a pressure cooker? AR-15s are not an assault weopon. An assault weopon has full auto capability where the AR-15s sold to the legal general public are only semi-auto.

  • David Morris

    Only you nut-bar Americans think that the answer gun problems is more guns. On that basis, give all Americans a pressure cooker bomb to solve the problem of mad bombers.

    Anyway, Boston got what it deserved. For decades the Boston Irish gave megabucks to the lunatics in the IRA so that they could continue their terror bombing campaign in London.

    Now you got you own back. Welcome to the world of crazy religion.

    David Morris

    New Zealand

    • Jack

      Has not history taught you anything. Look what happened to countries that banned guns!!! Millions and millions of innocent people were slaughtered by the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and such!!! Is this what you want??? Take away guns the criminals will always get guns, and also the government if it turns evil you are toast…… YOU CANT FIX STUPID!!!

    • f

      guns are NOT dangerous.

      When is the last time you heard of a gun jumping off a table by itself and shooting someone?

      PEOPLE are dangerous.

      And how is your murder rate by the way? Knife sales are up I heard.

  • http://www.blakeman.net/_VA/index.htm Van

    Sellers of guns designed to kill people should be treated like hard drug dealers. If their guns are involved in any kind of crime, they are equally guilty.

  • Dave

    It’s all just ever-increasing PCism and the Progressive Agenda. If there’s a bombing, blame the bomber. So when there’s a shooting, do they blame the shooter ? NO. They blame guns and then they just try that much harder to disarm all of us who are law-abiding gun owners.

    A disarmed America will no longer be a country able to defend itself against enemies abroad or those with political power who wish to remove all opposition.

  • David Morris

    Oh, and I forgot. That half-wit who whimpered “It’s not the gun that kills, it’s the person pulling the trigger”.

    Jesus – grow up, dopey. If a mad shooter had to do it with a knife or a bow and arrow instead his scorecard would be a lot lower.

    You people rank with the likes of Somalia in allowing crazies access to weapons of mass destruction – a.k.a. high rate-of-fire automatic weapons with large magazines.

    And the corrupt politicians in your Congress couldn’t gainsay the NRA by at least limiting the worst of these killer weapons. Nobody needs that kind of protection and I’m quite certain that when your founding fathers passed the Second Amendment they had no idea the foul use that it would be put to by the murderous psychopaths of the NRA.

    Frankly, as an outside: America – you get what you richly deserve. Death by day and by night.

    • Jack

      David sorry to say but you are a total idiot to say what you just said!!! What else do you support??? sodomites, child molesting, atheism??? Tell us!!!

    • http://www.liberrtyschallenge.org Roger Cole

      Notice what America hating liberals always resort to…name calling and showing their arrogance by calling everyone that does’t agree with the liberal agenda, stupid.

    • f

      You should take your meds.

      guns are NOT dangerous.

      When is the last time you heard of a gun jumping off a table by itself and shooting someone?

      PEOPLE are dangerous.

    • Mountain Man

      You have no idea how much paperwork, finger print cards, and Law enforcement certification I needed just to buy a “high rate-of-fire automatic weapon with large magazines” Which, by the way, cost me over $12000.

      You obviously don’t know enough about weapons to comment on which particular ones are “the worst” and are probably also unfamiliar with a device called a “bomb” which can be assembled without any paperwork and kill WAY more people than any single shooter could. Remember Oklahoma? That was a truck full of fertilizer that killed 168 people including 19 children under 6.

      We have 62 million cars in the US and around 300 million Firearms. Guess which one kills more people?

      Why would you want to take away the only reasonable way people can defend themselves? What gives you the right to say that I shouldn’t be able to kill someone who is trying to hurt me and my family?

  • Gary

    Facebook is not owned or run by the government so it can do anything it wants as long as it’s legal. I am extremely pro 2nd amendment, but I am also extremely pro 1st amendment and pro freedom. The first 10 amendments, as a whole, are either the foundation of our liberty or they are meaningless.

  • Jack

    Me and Me must be a liberal on drugs to say that Obama is the best president ever!!! In reality he is the worst president in all of history!! I cannot begin to describe all the horrors he has committed on here!!!

  • http://www.liberrtyschallenge.org Roger Cole

    Facebook should stay out of politics. They apparently don’t see the danger of all these subtle threats to the 2nd amendment.

  • Fred Flintsone

    There is no place for unregulated idiots in America. If you don’t believe in capitalism, limited government, and freedom then move some place else. More people are killed with hammers every year in the US, than with guns. Will that lib-tard Zuckershlit ban contests to give away free hammers? The Agenda of the “peace-loving” Left is pathetic. Those of you who are against guns should take a look at yourselves, and in all honestly, you should not be allowed to have cars, or hammers, either. Have you ever heard of transference. You irresponsible progressives think that everyone is a dangerous moron because you think everyone has the same F’d up views as you. In this capitalist-based economy that you secretly are jealous of, and that you want to destroy, you should not infringe on the rights of another legitimate business. And, the firearms business is a positive and productive segment of our society providing guns for sporting and protection.

  • Gordon

    I love you Americans. Every time anyone else in Western Europe thinks its a good idea to have guns in the hands of the general population we just look at you guys killing your own kids in your schools and think “Jesus, thank fuck we are not stupid enough to do that”

    When we have a gun crime/massacre it hits the headlines in a big way because its so rare. Do you even bother reporting when someone culls another 20 of your kids?

  • King Mike

    I just had a meeting with ex-Congressman Frank and secretly I let him have a big gulp so I am not too coherent, now. Anyway, I commend Facebook as a private company for discriminating against honest business owners trying to stimulate our economy.

  • Dwan

    Absolutely!

  • Terrance

    Whose the idiot(s) who thinks the 2nd amendment is about self defense or hunting? That’s not what out forefathers were thinking about. You don’t need a militia to shot a duck or a burglar. It’s about defending and preserving freedom. Read the amendment, idiots. And the 2nd amendment does not say firearms, it says ARMS. Back then that included cannons. Today it means whatever is necessary to defend freedom. This talk about self defense and hunting is deliberate misdirection from the left.

    • Jack

      Right on Terrance these libtards left wing nut communist don’t want us to have freedom and to be able to defend ourselves. They want control, they are part of the problem!!

      I hate abortion but maybe we should have a way to genetically detect which baby will turn out to be liberal and abort it!!! LOL Maybe it would save out country!! These liberals are like a cancer and infection!!!!! They are gross!!!

  • http://easyonlineclassifieds.com/ John Hogan

    All these companies trying to be ‘Politically Correct’ sicken me. Maybe they should try to be ‘Constitutionally correct’ instead which would help send congress and law makers a serious message.

    The right to own and BARE a firearm. Remember those words. Congress and lawmakers must swear to uphold that basic right in every state in the USA which is not to be superseded by ANY state law as it is a National LAW.

  • http://www.yummybeads.com Gabby

    I think I would pass a background check .. but i’m a scorpio .. add PMT, a bad hair day, a few drinks and a row with hubby to the mix and who knows!! … I believe Facebook have the right to distance themselves from any weapon giveaway if they choose to do so …

    Guns in the wrong hands are dangerous and have also proved to be dangerous in the hands of professionals.

  • Gordon

    Love your comments about defending yourselves. What do you think a bunk of fat yanks would do to any enemy force that is capable past your army? Die? lots?

    Why do your guys really have guns still? Nothing to do with the gun manufactures paying off your politician(of all party’s)

    Land of the Free? Or land of the easily manipulated?

    They make money, your kids die and a bunch of weekend warrior virgins get to play in the woods shooting animals to make themselves feel stronger than the fat pathetic couch potatoes they are.

    • Mountain Man

      Well a bunch of armed fat yanks did a pretty good job of kicking England’s ass out of our country 200 years ago, and we have A LOT more armed citizens now should the need ever arise again (unlikely since that would be a nightmare for any occupying force). But hey you guys did a pretty good job in WWII without our help right?

      Why do I have guns still? Because I’d rather not have to rely on the state to defend myself. I’m sure your police armed with sticks will do a great job keeping you from being raped, murdered, and robbed when they show up 20 minutes later. Assuming of course you had a chance to call the police.

  • http://www.quantisoft.com Howard Deutsch

    No, keep guns off of facebook and the Internet overall. Gun sales need to be controlled more effectively to keep guns out of the hands of people who are not capable of owning and handling gus safely for society.

  • Leanne Jordan

    Yes they have !!!! tobacco, and all those other things mentioned dont go into schools and kill innocent children and adults.

    It is far to easy to buy guns now without them being promoted on social networks. Stricter rules and laws are needed when it comes to firearms and such.

  • http://www.vitallywell.com Tony Saldin

    Yes, Facebook should allow businesses to give away guns. Unless of course they support tyrannical governments and are part of the corruption of information.

  • http://www.quantisoft.com Howard Deutsch

    Yes, these companies are right to eliminate guns from online search and to the extent possible from online sales. Gun sales should be face to face from authorized dealers only, using appropriate checks to make sure the buyer has no legal reasons for not being able to purchase a gun.

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  • http://www.livingdignity.eu Elisabeth Riedl

    No . Guns are dangerous weapons and not a gift you may enjoy.

    • f

      guns are NOT dangerous.

      When is the last time you heard of a gun jumping off a table by itself and shooting someone?

      PEOPLE are dangerous.

      • Helen

        People like the one you commented on are the like the Jews that helped torture and execute other Jews. They buy into the same scare tactics the Nazis used to get Jews to persecute other Jews. People who carry weapons and used them responsibly and those Jews who were tortured and executed would not view having had a gun then or now as dangerous. We have the right to bear arms.

        • Helen

          And that is a GIFT from the people that actually FOUGHT for the “GIFT” of freedom you enjoy.

    • http://www.raglandsecurity.com Butch Ragland

      After clicking on your name I now see where you are coming from. A liberal based peace oriented organization who would rather push their gun free peace agenda down citizens throats rather than attack the real problems in this world that have created the need for the free world to need these guns for protection. You will probably never get your head out of the sand; so I wish you well and will no longer bother commenting on your misguided idealism! God Bless you; and I hope that did not offend you!

      • http://www.raglandsecurity.com Butch Ragland

        My previous comment was directed toward Elizabeth.

      • Helen

        Thanks if you hadnt said that I wouldnt have clicked and saw this is just another cowardly person who has been physically abused and didnt fight back. Sorry Elizabeth Reidl, I won’t let someone beat me down. I will fight back. Go hide under a rock.

        • Helen

          And I was abused too but I took my cane and beat the SOB back until he ran out of my house screaming. I’d rather die than let someone abuse me or take my God given constitutional right to defend myself away.

  • http://hospemex.com Francisco Barcenas Cruz

    As long as it’s legal. Facebook, should not play police. If they shut down the ad it should be based on a law. If they want to create the defacto standard of communication in the 21st century, they have a responsibility to err on the side of freedom and their clients.

  • f

    how about the first amendment?

  • Helen

    If everyone read the constitution USA would not be run by idiots. Not talking about the President, his power is limited by the dictators. He does the best with what he has.

    “We have the right to bear arms.”

  • http://www.informedaboutsex.com s stodt

    THANK YOU, FACEBOOK!!!!!!!!

  • Helen

    The right to bear arms predates the Bill of Rights; the Second Amendment was based partially on the right to bear arms in English common-law, and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. This right was described by Blackstone as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state. Academic inquiry into the purpose,[1][2] scope,[3] and effect[4] of the amendment has been controversial[5][6][7] and subject to numerous interpretations.[8]

  • Remington

    Facebook should not be making moral choices for its users so long as said users are acting within the law. However if they want to alienate millions of people who use their service then that is their prerogative.

  • Debra L Hartmann

    As long as a business is following Facebook guidelines, then Facebook has no right to play police with regards to their product. They are taking a political stand and that is completely inappropriate in business.

    • http://www.discusfishcare.org Wilf Staton

      I am a bit confused here. I thought that the reason the ads were closed down was that they were not following the guidelines which were in place long before the ads started appearing. The only other thing I wonder about is why it took so long for FaceBook to apply the rules.

  • http://www.livingdignity.eu Elisabeth Riedl

    When guns are given awsy in Facebook then Facebook should be shut down. And fined.

    • http://www.raglandsecurity.com Butch Ragland

      You appear to be another of the die hard liberals who think the gun is the enemy; not the one behind the gun!

    • Helen

      Are you Jewish? I am Jewish. You shouldn’t have a gun because you are scared of guns and could hurt someone. We have the right to bear arms, and that was a Gift given to us by the people that fought for FREEDOM, a Gift you also receive, in this country. You don’t like it, get out.

    • Debra L Hartmann

      Why? Because you feel the business owner is in the wrong and Facebook didn’t make them adhere to the existing policies around advertising or because you have an issue with guns? The issue IS NOT about guns, the issue is about whether Facebook should be taking a political stand that is outside of the documented policies and rules of advertising for customers that pay to use those advertising options on Facebook. What if the hot political topic has to do with your industry next week and you don’t feel there is anything wrong with advertising and promoting your industry but they all of a sudden take a political stand against your niche? How would you feel then? Be passionate about your opinions on guns, we all are, notice, not one of my comments has stated my position, THIS IS NOT ABOUT GUN CONTROL, this is about business and advertising and running promotions and was there a rule broken by the business or by Facebook as it relates to the paid service that business purchased from Facebook? Isn’t it everyone’s right to get what they paid for without the provider saying, hey I don’t agree with your position on this topic so I am going to not allow you to do this, though you followed the rules and paid for the service?

  • http://www.raglandsecurity.com Butch Ragland

    If the company is a properly licensed business which operates within the requirements of the law, FACEBOOK should not censor their ads, as long as they allow advertising. Facebook appears to be attempting to insert their personal objection into this companies business, rather than treating them equally amount other businesses. I was preparing to restart my old ad campaign on Facebook, but will now reconsider!

    I will wait to see if Facebook wants to play the liberal card or rather they want to be a fair market advertiser! Let’s see how you turn out; Facebook!

  • klaus Riedl

    When guns are given awsy in Facebook then Facebook should be shut down. And fined.

  • Debra L Hartmann

    I read through the comments on this post – people are divided in their opinions on guns, as is normal. It is all of our rights to have different opinions and to speak them out loud for anyone to hear…hand in hand with that concept, it is not someone else’s right to say one opinion is right or wrong against their own opinions…respect each other’s rights to free speech! Secondly, don’t confuse the issues here…this is not about whether guns or people are dangerous, not about the opinions of people with regard to gun control or not to gun control…this is about a business running a promotion for their products and a business that they use, legitimately, as a platform for advertising then taking a political stand outside of the policies they promised their customers would be the only measurement for allowed content. If this is allowed, then Facebook can continue to say what businesses can use as promotional products in any industry, not just guns. Keep the issues separate…don’t let the precedence be set that they can step outside of their boundaries on anything or you will find yourself affected by it at some point too.

    • Helen

      Yes it is our right to say someone whose opinion goes against the people who made this a FREE country is wrong. If its not wrong why not throw away the constitution and have no law? What you say is not logical. If you disagree with the foundation of the country you live in, you dont belong here.

    • http://www.raglandsecurity.com Butch Ragland

      Thank you Debra! Good presentation and logic!

  • Darlene

    I do not think guns should be accessible online whether through Facebook or any other online store. It’s hard enough to verify a person’s information when they go into a store, how can they verify it online. I understand that guns don’t kill people – “PEOPLE do” but we need to be careful how we make guns accessible to everyone.

    • Helen

      Your comment has no logic at all. Do you even know how someone gets verified when they buy a gun?? They run a check on you. Don’t be stupid thinking this would make it any easier to get guns. Its very easy to buy guns second hand and very cheap. So criminals arent looking to get them online.

      • Darlene

        Helen…I’m not a gun advocate so NO…I don’t know what someone has to go through to be verified. All I know is that it is a lot harder to hide who you really are online. Any kid can get their parents information and claim to be them. It’s not that hard. These purchases need to be made face to face not hiding behind a computer.

        • Mountain Man

          Any weapon bought online is transferred to a Federally licensed dealer who then completes the same background checks as if the gun was purchased in the store. Your worries are completely unfounded in reality. So whoever buys the weapon online has to sit down “face to face” with a Dealer who has been trained ad nausea by the Feds to keep criminals from obtaining weapons through illegal channels. Then again, criminals are seldom stupid enough to go to a gun shop when there are 250 million firearms in circulation in this country.

          Its not exactly difficult for someone with a few hundred dollars to acquire a gun sans paperwork, its the liberal judges that release these people back on the streets after they have been caught with illegal weapons that leads to so much gun violence. If we enforced the laws currently in place, we would see a dramatic decline in gun-related violence.

        • Joe

          what helen is doing a poor job of explaining is that you cannot just order a gun and it arrives in the mail from the internet. If you buy a gun online it has to be shipped to a federal firearms licensed dealer where you have to get it face to face and pass a background check. There is no such thing as plugging your info in on the internet and having a gun sent to you with no background check that would be against the law already.

  • Ryan

    Why not? Since when do companies get to decide if the 2nd Amendment is negotiable?

  • Daffy

    When will Americans realize two things. 1 the whole world uses the Internet 2. The whole world disagrees with you on guns. Keep guns off Facebook

    • Mountain Man

      Facebook is an American company, if you don’t like American ideals, don’t use facebook.

  • Darlene

    Someone on this post is very rude. Can’t we all AGREE to DISAGREE…One person’s opinion, though it may be different from another’s does not make it wrong. We all have our beliefs and convictions but we should act like adults and respect others opinions. This is not kindergarten.

    • Helen

      If you disagree with the US constitution you are not American, and you do not deserve the protection of our soldiers who ALL would agree with the Right to Bear Arms. Just ask some and then buy in or leave because you are a coward and not worthy to be protected.

      • Darlene

        You are clearly looking for a fight. I’m not saying that I don’t believe in the right to bear arms. When I was growing up guns were used for recreation not killing. It’s the PEOPLE…NOT THE GUNS…You have a way of twisting everything that EVERYONE says and turning it into something it’s not.

      • http://www.discusfishcare.org Wilf Staton

        You are quite right Helen. It should be noted that the vast majority of the rude and offensive comments are the people who advocate guns.

    • Susan Smith

      What do you think of the gov getting all the ammo at least 1,000 rounds for each soldier..

      • Mountain Man

        Thats Department of Homeland Security. The Army uses 360rds per year per soldier for training purposes. DHS uses around 1700 rds per year per agent. Their 5 year goal is to stockpile 790 million rounds of 5.56.

  • Brenan

    Of course they should be able to give away guns, guns are legal and we all have the right to keep and bear arms. They are promoting their business just like every other business on FB, they should sue FB for discrimination against their business.

  • http://honkmorons.com Arthgallo Maven

    The Second Amendment gives the citizens the right to keep and bear arms. The First Amendment guarantees our right to talk about it. Neither guarantees the microphone or platform to promote these views and some, like Facebook, Google and Bing view gun rights and freedom of speech as offensive.

    On the other hand what Planned Parenthood does (kill baby humans) is offensive to many and their Facebook page is still there.

    Any surprises that Facebook, Google and Bing pick a side against our U.S. Constitution and discriminates against any group THEY deem unworthy?

    No surprise here. They are the newest incarnation of hate group, the controllers of free speech and free thought.

    A. Maven

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