Shailene Woodley may be a movie star, but she doesn’t know much about pop culture. Often the two go hand-in-hand, but definitely not for the Divergent: Insurgent star.

When Shailene Woodley was asked recently to give her best Kylie Jenner selfie face while on the red carpet at the film’s London premiere, she couldn’t do it. Why? Shailene Woodley didn’t know who Kylie Jenner was.

“I have no idea who that is,” she said. “I’m sorry!” she said.

The entire cast of Divergent: Insurgent was asked a bunch of pop culture questions while on the red carpet. In addition to the Kylie Jenner stumper, Shailene Woodley also failed at Mean Girls quotes and naming the members of the boy band One Direction. In fact, she couldn’t get any further than Harry Styles.

Does it surprise you that stars like Shailene Woodley don’t always spend their spare time reading gossip rags about the latest Keeping Up With the Kardashians foibles or flipping through fan magazines staring at pictures of Niall Horan, Louis Tomlinson, Zayn Malik, and Liam Payne? (They’re the other four members of One Direction, for those who are pop culture-challenged like Shailene.)

This is actually incredibly refreshing, and means Woodley, along with some of her cast mates, might have better things to do with their time than strictly adhering to some ridiculous Hollywood standards.

Shailene Woodley appears on the cover of the April issue of Elle magazine. Within its pages she talks about growing up, and how she certainly was blessed with a strong–but not always easy–foundation. She shared the following advice she received from her mother.

“One day I was having one of my teenage crises, when you think everything’s falling apart—your estrogen and progesterone are freaking out. And she said, ‘Shai, the most important thing in life is self-love. You’ve gotta take care of yourself. You’ve got to take care of yourself, and you gotta live from your deep heart,'” she said.

Shailene Woodley: "The most important thing in life is self-love" http://t.co/oCle2AhkTg via @ELLEMagazine #Insurgent pic.twitter.com/WVb1JGWIcC

— People magazine (@people) March 12, 2015

Maybe her growing up years played a pivotal role in Shailene Woodley being so sure of herself she can star in hit Hollywood films without feeling the need to conform to the stereotype that often accompanies her chosen path. Maybe that’s why she doesn’t know–and likely doesn’t care–about people like Kylie Jenner and bands like One Direction.

Shailene Woodley just wants someone who's her "lighthouse." More from her @ELLEmagazine cover: http://t.co/YVFhimL8aG pic.twitter.com/RixnLuMMxQ

— Us Weekly (@usweekly) March 12, 2015