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Ramses III: Throat Slit As Part Of Conspiracy?

    December 19, 2012
    Amanda Crum
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When researchers ran CT scans recently on the mummified remains of Ramses III, they found shocking evidence as to the cause of his death that had never been noticed before: a deep, wide gash in his throat consistent with being slit.

“The big cut is in his throat and it was very deep and large,” said anthropologist Albert Zink, who was involved in the research. “It would have killed him immediately.”

According to ancient writings called the Judicial Papyrus of Turin, the pharaoh was killed as part of a plot by his second wife, Tiye, to get their son to the throne. It is said that Prince Pentawer (sometimes spelled Pentawere) knew about the plot beforehand and, after Ramses’ death, took his own life after he went to trial for the murder. Interestingly, a second mummy which has been known as “Unknown Man E” underwent a scan, as well, and researchers now believe they’ve found Pentawer. Analysis shows this mummy was very closely releated to Ramses–sharing 50% of his DNA–and that the body was treated very strangely for that time period, as the organs were not removed and the body was covered with a “ritually impure” goat skin. These things could be related to the events that occurred before he died.

“From our genetic analysis we could really prove the two were closely related. They share the same Y chromosome and 50% of their genetic material, which is typical of a father-son relationship,” Zink said.

Although there’s still quite a bit of contention regarding how Ramses died–some say he was attacked by members of his harem in a revolt–the latest discovery is very exciting for researchers, who say it’s possible the throat-slit occurred during the embalming process but that it is highly unlikely.

“Before now we knew more or less nothing about the destiny of Ramesses III,” Zink said. “People had examined his body before and had done radiographs but they didn’t notice any trauma. They did not have access to the CT scans that we do. We were very surprised by what we found. We still cannot be sure that the cut killed him, but we think it did. It might have been made by the embalmers but this is very unlikely. I’m not aware of any other examples of this.”

Image: BMJ

  • wendy

    “that had never been noticed before: a deep, wide gash in his throat consistent with being slit.” REALLY lol

  • Mariam

    حاجة كويسة اننا نعرف اكتر عن تاريخنا الفرعونى وعن الملوك القدماء واسباب وفاتهم

    • brutony

      I couldnt have sanskripted it better myself!

    • Catherine

      I like Mariam’s comment the most.

  • kme

    wow glad we cleared that up

    • JPC

      Yeah,
      I’m sure glad that the mystery was solved. After all, all of his family relations which with a harem as large as he had, is probably half of Egypt, will be glad to learn that justice has been FINALLY been dispensed!!!
      LOL!!!

  • OJ

    It was OJ

  • G-File

    I just wasted 5 mi of my life…=(

  • G-File

    I just wasted 5 min of my life…=(

    • Bastet

      Evidently you wasted it twice. :/

    • Donna Hill

      yep, with you on that one!!

    • truth-a-lot

      It took you 5 minutes to read that short article?

  • Nijo

    Now that’s a really cold case file.

  • Bastet

    You mean..he wasn’t killed by a gun? :O

  • doug

    Further proof that They should have taken away the guns along time ago.

  • Gregory

    Speaking about throats. Mines dry. But probably not as dry as his. Nonetheless,I’m gonna go get something to drink

  • Thomas

    Amazing what we learn with each new technological advancement! Amazing times we live in.

  • kaye

    and how many times had they xrayed this guy before……this is no new news people

  • http://yahoo Greit

    Maybe in a few thousand years, they will be able to figure out happen in Benghazi

  • Russ

    Well, he was a little mum about the slit business

    • brutony

      And who were his parents-Mummy and Dead?

  • http://webpronew.com hans

    yes…amazing…we can figure out how a guy died thousands of years ago, but can’t figure our how and why a US Ambassador gets killed a few months ago….amazing

  • brutony

    And then, as Dr Grisson said, after viewing the slit evidence,”I guess this mummy was a real dummy!” Bom bom bom bom WHOOOOOOOOOOOO ARE YOUUUUUUUU!!!!

  • Lee Duhachek

    Not the first man taken down by a slit.

    • Robert K

      LOL…..exactly.

  • Ronny

    I hope this criminal is brought to just!

    • Ronny

      I hope this criminal is brought to justice!

  • brooke bond

    That means he was the Titanic of his time.

  • Wulf

    Even back in those days power and greed was in the consciousness of the political class.

    After 2 or 3 millineum man has not changed that much.

  • Bob

    Guy with 102 children and they name a rubber after him?

    • jill johnson

      Ha !! Good one :)

  • Robert Whitaker

    Mum’s the word.

  • Levi

    Pretty cool article. Good comment Mariam! Nice scripting also. The writing has a very artistic component to it. I think it is neat.
    المادة جميلة باردة. مريم حسن تعليق! لطيفة البرمجة أيضا. الكتابة على عنصر فني جدا لذلك. وأعتقد أنه هو أنيق

  • John

    Oh please….it was very common to remove the internal organs and slit the throat after death to get as much blood out of the dead person. They would then spread salt about the inside and outside to help in the preservasion process. All this from Wikipedia!

    • Kathleen

      Wikipedia isn’t always the most reputable source. While that makes sense, I’m sure they would’ve pointed out if slitting the throat was common practice. They are the experts here…

  • Forensic Patholigist

    “Deep wide gash in his throat consistent with being slit”

    I can just see the son’s defense on the witness stand,

    “look, dad choked on a piece lamb, we were trying to perform an emergency tracheotomy and things got a little out of hand.”

  • noah

    damn mexicans,,,,lol

  • http://Yahoo stacye

    It’s all a conspiracy by the US government to get us focused on some mundane historical data so we won’t be keeping our eyes on our politicians as they slit OUR proverbial “throats!” beware, the ICE Man COMETH!

    • http://soundcloud.com/dashiellhouse Dashiell House

      You’re awesome. Keep those guns

  • CeM

    Question: Could the cut neck have occured postmortem as a crude means of draining blood from the body before prepping it for mummification?

  • Gary Elliott

    Dang, we should’ve outlawed knives a little sooner. LOL

  • henrietta ramirez

    I like the comment about your throat been dry. I was just thinking the same thing. All that talk about the throat mayed me dry. Cheers! lol lol

  • STEW

    The song remains the same: Hell hath no fury….

  • http://scogostology.wordpress.com Scogostology, SGSG

    These researchers ought to said that their findings are speculations because there could be a number of other plausible explanations for the slit. Only an eyewitness to his death could say for sure what happened!

  • http://Internet Bernabe

    I think it is a disgrace that their tumbs were even opened in the first place.

  • eric

    people have already looked at this but all of a sudden this one dude says different embalming cuts the throat but now he was murdered? whatever – he wanted to die anyway to gain immortality – he got his wish we’re still dragging his name up

  • Hey Gee

    great news that we finally found out…..now what about Jimmy Hoffa?

  • tom56071

    i guess their was no knife or gun controll in those days it goes to show that politicans should not be allowed any type of weapon

    • Steven

      Oh-I see what you did there-yeah, I agree-no weapons for anyone, politician or otherwise !

      • Jack Russe1l

        No Steven, you still don’t see. Probably never will … dolt.

        • http://webpronews,com Minx

          Pot…..kettle!

      • Jack Russe1l

        No Steven, you don’t see. You probably never will until a criminal breaks into your house and you have no recourse. Then you’ll begin to see. You’ll see that its impossible to legislate guns out of existence. The framers of the Constitution have a great deal more on the ball than you. They guaranteed you that you have the RIGHT to keep and bear arms. But, the best part of it is that they did that so you could keep the GOVERNMENT in check. Protecting your home and your family is just a little side benefit of the 2nd Amendment.

        • Madeleine

          You may be able to protect yourself and/or your family with your precious arms which the second amendment may or may not guarantee you but if you think for one minute you can stand up to the armed services of the U.S. in 2012 with your arms you best think again. Look back at Ruby Ridge and Waco. This government has ALL the best, shiniest and newest arms.

          Citizens do not NEED semi auto and automatic weapons, never did and never will. The NRA knows this (at least privately they do though they are too mired in their advocacy for the big weapons manufacturers to admit it), the American people know this…even some of the tea-bagging right wing extremist Republicans know it too though they won’t admit it either. The best thing for America is to ban the sale of semi auto and automatic weapons and CONFISCATE THEM FROM THE PUBLIC and no one will touch that with a ten foot pole. Then I would ask, “what does all this rant have to do with Ramses III?”

  • danny warson

    and >>>>?<<<<…..discovering America all over again???

  • danny warson

    and >>>>?<<<<…..discovering America all over again???

  • http://AOL Richard Grey

    It’s true !! Gun control even worked back then !! Not ONE SINGLE GUN in the entire empire, but someone still figured out a way to kill him !! On a serious note, may God bestow all of His love and mercy on all of the innocent lives that have ended as a reult of someone’s evil actions. God bless us everyone !!

    • Robert

      In this case due to the type of weapon only a single kill. to compare that to well over 20 kids is idiotic! If that young man who killed those kids was limited to a knife maybe no one would have been killed but certainly not what happened…you lame gun toting fools are trying so hard to preserve your use of military type weapons publicly…May we as a nation wake up to the sheer stupidity of such iresponsiblity toward our young!

      • Jack Russe1l

        How do you know in this case there was a single kill? In this case, you don’t. But we DO know that in MANY MANY cases multiple people have been killed without a gun. We also know that many more crimes have been prevented by gun-weilding law-abiding citizens than have been carried out. We also know that its far more likely that a criminal will come much closer to accomplishing his objective if he meets no armed resistance. Chicago, New York, London, all have very stringent gun restrictions and all have major crimes with guns accompanied by citizens who can do nothing to protect themselves if they obey the law. That is madness, and Robert, you are mad.

      • Eric

        but you are forgetting that 27 children were kikked in china by knife on the same day

    • Jerry

      This isn’t about guns, Sherlock. Word of advice: posting your rants on non-political boards will always make your side look idiotic.

  • Adrian

    Who really gives a shit who killed this asshole 5 thousand years ago sounds to me like you are running out of news to report. Thats like digging up arafat. Be happy the bastards are dead and let them rot.

  • crackheadhoe

    really no 1 gives a damn

  • Melinda

    that is very interesting. I wish I could know what happened to Ramses I and Ramses II.

  • Jim Burke

    I think we can find alot better thing to do with noney then figure out wha killed a damn Pharoah from 5000 f’ing tears ago. So what if some bitch sliced his throat. Oh well, Sucked to be him i guess, and his kid plotted it, Sound like some reality show, probably be on the nexy episode of Hardcore Pawn or Lzard F’ing Lick towing. HOW CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • snt

      Burke… How stupid and ignorant you must be. First of all,alot is not a word. It’s a lot. You need to spell check and proof read your postings before pushing enter. 5000 what? The only words you spelled right are names of reality shows. How about doing yourself and the world a favor-read a book. This is History and possible ancient answers.

  • oripa

    oNLY THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD ONE DAY, MAY BE WHEN WE ARE ALL GONE.

  • http://http//www.yahoo.com oripa

    What is the issue here, he died thousands of years ago, why bother.

    • http://yahoo Debra LaPierre

      He was probably removed by his wife so through her son she could run the show but obviously with the son also killed that did’nt happen. The rest will be speculation.

    • Mark

      Some people thirst for knowledge, while others troll on internet message boards.

  • OldCat

    THIS JUST IN!

    Evidence shows that there’s a %50 chance I just crapped my pants.

  • SeanyJ

    This is very interesting and shows great history. Money well spent.

  • JERALD HINSON

    WELL I BE DAMNED, ALL THIS TIME I THOUGHT THEY THREW HIM IN A LIONS DEN.

  • Shirley

    You know, all this happened thousands of years ago……………….why are we wasting money and time on this????Put the time and money to better use.

    • Niel

      There is a saying that goes: “In order to arrive to the future, one should know the past…” Knowing the past (history), today, enables one to better prepare or to plan for the future.

    • anderson williams

      As a history buff I found the article fascinating. I can understand why many of you do not share my interest what I can’t understand is why you choose to villify the scientists and historians who share my interest. If you don’t care what happened to Ramses III why not just ignore the report?

    • jake the snake

      you bunch of liberal democrats, tell us dumb republicans this… besides the air you breathe, what is FREE?

  • sal

    Who gives a shit?

    • Lori

      I see there are a number of third grade dropouts making really ignorant comments on this site.

  • Terry

    For all of you who like to call everyone who owns a gun “rednecks” To you I say, you always like to categorize all people into one bag but what you don’t understand is that I could call you uneducated because I doubt you know what our constitution say’s or even the three branches of government. This is simple, you either believe in all of our constitution including the 2nd amendment or you believe in none of it. You cannot pick and choose which parts you want to believe in and which parts you don’t. You are either a true American who believes in our constitution which is the law of the land our maybe you are just a communist in American clothing. As far as Ramses 111 goes, those people back then are no different than our leaders today, they only want money and power and could care less about you.

    • daniel muscatell

      Who the helllllllll are u to say what I can or can not believe in. You stupid republicans always use the most irrational means to make a point. This is exactly why you lost this last race to a guy who had one of the biggest economic four year blunders ever as a president.

      People like you are so ignorant, it is only proof why the world thinks America is so full of it !

      • Mel

        The only reason Obama won was because he’s black and you know it. Get off your high horse. No one is telling you what to believe in. Only the communist Obama administration will be doing that, gradually over time you idiot!!!!

        • Gabrielle

          It amuses me so much when people say Obama was only elected (twice) because he is black. I think it has more to do with the Republican party’s out-of-touch candidates and extreme far right turn the party suddenly took after Clinton. Hell I would have voted for Garey Busey the past two elections if he was the Democratic candidate.

        • Josh Taylor

          @Mel. So the only reason Obama won is because he is black. Who owns this country of Ameirca? Who runs this country? What race out numbers all other races in this country? The answer to those 3 questions is the white race. Obama won 78 percent of the hispanic vote, 90 percent of the black vote, 75 percent of the Asian vote and 43 percent of the white vote. Even with all the other races still Obama could not have won the presidency without the white vote. What you just said is a lie and a bunch of horsefeathers and has no merit at all. You are a very ignorant person and a disgrace to the white race. Obama is hated by millions of people like yourself and if the white race wanted to get him out of office they surely don’t give a damn if he is black and would have not had no problem to vote him out. By him being black did not at all help him to win you embicele. He won simply because your republican party is outdated and is not trusted. Republicans tried to scare white America to death by lying propaganda and it backfired badly. Your party needs to be overhauled because it is not the party of the future, it is the party of old middle aged men that still think it is the 1950’s. You are a very stupid person and has the IQ of 5. The truth hurts doesn’t it?

      • Jerry

        WTH does your rant about the 2nd Amendment and “true” Americans have to do with the article about Ramses III? You’re on the wrong board! Word of advice: posting your rants on non-political boards will always make your side look idiotic.

      • Locsta

        i think terry is related to rick perry, they both don’t know what the hell they are saying. you know what i’m saying? just saying…

    • Red

      Only someone like you could compare the 2nd amendment to an embalming step confused for a murder 2000 years ago. I’m glad the world ends Friday and we don’t have to deal with stupidity like this guy anymore

    • http://Yahoo Pam

      The Second Amendment was written before we had automatic weapons. I doubt our forefathers could have foreseen the type of weapons that are now being manufactured. So you think that everything written over a hundred years ago should be blindly followed? If that’s the case then we should still be bleeding people when they are sick. As for the communist comment, it shows you are still living in the 50’s. Look up the definition. We don’t have a pure democracy either.

      • Rachael

        I can’t believe I’m responding to political comments on an article re: Ramses III for God’s sake, however, you’ve alluded to some points which annoy me (and many others who’ve read The Federalist Papers). Yes, the Second Amendment was written before we had automatic weapons, however, the framers of the constitution were not only brilliant men, but also military men. They knew they were creating a brilliant document & most scholars believe they had the intelligence to anticipate great changes in all forms of technology. I leave the question of the legitimate right to private ownership pf such weapond up to Congress, however. Of course everything written over 100 yrs ago(The Bill of Rights & The Declaration of Independance are a wee bit older than 100: The “Dec” is 236 and the Bill of Rights is 223 yrs old) should not be blindly followed, & the great men who wrote the Declaration & the Bill of Rights knew this, which is why constitutional framers specifically wrote the Constitution in flexible terms to create a “living” document. While taking no sides politically (neither candidate was a member of my party), perhaps you should consider reading “The Communist Manifesto.” You may be surprised. Now, the pure democracy thing… well, of course. There is no country in the world that is governed wholly by pure majority rule. If you are referring to the Madison debate, I remind you that the words (and meaning, of course)”democracy” & “republic” were utterly synonymous to him. Lastly, a form of bloodletting is till performed in many prestigous hospitals & has saved countless lives. Apart from all that, I hope we can maybe talk about Ramses? The dude’s been waiting a long time for a little justice.

    • joshua

      And I can call you a redneck not because im putting all people in a bag just you. Your stupidity is evident when you pull out the 2nd amendment out of your ass to justify your own means. The truth is that the founding fathers enacted that amendment for a militia not so that everyone could mass produce guns and use them for shits and giggles.
      Before you go on and call other people uneducated, check your facts first. Unless of course you are a republiCON and don’t give a shit about facts please refrain from spewing ignorance.

  • daniel muscatell

    Why not say in order to drain the blood before mummification….they slit his throat.

    Possible ??

  • phil haberkorn

    It wouldn’t have taken Marg Helgenberger so long to solve this case…

    • Ashley

      hahaha I agree! She would have cracked this case already

  • john di

    He may have cut himself shaving….Note: he had no beard. Oh well……..

  • http://WebProNews BobbieCasto

    On the same day these children were murdered, 27 children in China were stabbed to death by another person who should have been committed long before they got to this point. With the insurance restrictions the way they are, you can only put your possessed child away for 30 days and then they are really, really mad. Ticking time bombs.

  • Nunya Biznez

    My eggs taste better than your eggs. The end.

  • Mark

    I did not vote for Ramses III anyway.

  • KZ

    Unfortunately, the truth is that Republicans being elected to office have in the past made cuts that have scared the American people. Often these cuts have effected jobs and programs like Social Security, Teacher Retirement, and Educational Programs.

    So, to keep this fear alive, Obama’s backers ran ad campaigns to keep the democrats scared to vote for folks like Romney.

    Between these ad campaigns and hardcore democrats who refuse to vote otherwise, there was indeed a problem getting Romney elected. Him being Mormon didn’t help in their eyes!!!!

    Add all this to the fact that ALL votes were NOT counted before the election was decided and the fact that the Electoral College no longer fairly and honestly represents the America people and you have Obama in office again.

    I only wonder how long the American people are going to put up with this man!!!

    • joshua

      You freaking kidding me?! Romney was not elected because he was an awful liar that couldn’t be trusted. On top of that Obama still won even after those voter suppression laws were enacted on the red states, so you are right a lot of votes weren’t counted the ones that were for Obama.
      Unless you are rich I really don’t see why you would side with the republiCONS.

    • POed Lib

      The American people rejected fascism. Obama is a great president, and fascists hate him.

  • Hawthorne

    Well, I guess the past examiners didn’t have access to Photoshop.

  • marv

    The mummy looks cool,,I need to get mummified before friday

  • http://yahoo.com Denny Allen

    It’s sad that people have so much hate in them that they’ll post political talkings and BS on any article, whether it pertains to the subject of the article or not.

    • Aaron

      i agree

  • Aaron

    ok how did this story get off track and become a debate about what is wrong with America? really thought it was about a pharoah getting his throat cut. if it was some politician of America i would understand

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