Papa John’s Price Increase: Obamacare Is To Blame

    August 8, 2012
    Amanda Crum
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Obviously, few subjects have been stickier than that of Obamacare, which would require business owners employing 50 or more people to offer affordable health care to those employees or pay a penalty. It’s become a topic of debate between, well, just about everyone, and now, some business owners are coming forward with a new wrench to throw into the machine; higher prices passed on to the customers.

John Schnatter, a.k.a. Papa John, says he’s not in support of Obamacare–he’s been fundraising for Mitt Romney–and that the necessary adjustments Papa John’s will have to make to their business model mean the cost moves on down the line to the consumer. While it’s only estimated to be about an 11-14 cent increase per pizza, every penny adds up, and some franchise owners are concerned that they will be forced to cut jobs to stay within the 50-employee limit.

“I have two options, I can stop offering coverage and pay the $2,000 fine, or I could keep my number of staff under 50 so the mandate doesn’t apply,” Judy Nichols, owner of a Texas franchise, said. “Obamacare is making me think about cutting jobs instead,” she said.

Some think the price increase is so small it probably would have gone unnoticed if not for all the press about it, and Matthew Yglasias, writer for Slate.com, thinks it’s a small price to pay considering what’s at stake.

“Stipulating for a moment that this is true, doesn’t it seem like a rather small price to pay? Papa John’s website is currently offering to deliver me a large pepperoni pizza for $14.08 and Schnatter is warning me that the problem with Obamacare is … a one-time price increase of less than 1 percent! That seems eminently reasonable. What’s more, it’s well within the range of the kind of price swings Papa John’s is going to have to expect just based on the vagaries of the weather, which impacts the price of ingredients, and the ups and downs of the oil market.”

While the law probably won’t affect large, national chains like Papa John’s too much, it may have an adverse affect on smaller businesses, and the National Restaurant Association has warned everyone to expect to see price increases coming soon.

  • Lisa

    I will no longer be purchasing Papa John’s due to this story. I personally would be HAPPY to pay 14 extra cents for an already overpriced pizza so that everyone in the building could have health insurance, and not be bankrupt by a broken leg. Restaurants need to learn to shut their mouth when it comes to politics, because they just lost a long time customer.

  • Frank

    What a low blow. You expect people to believe that you are raising your prices because of Obamacare. It sound to me like it’s the old profit motive. You have under sold your competition, now you want to make that profit up. Why don’t you just admit what motivates you.
    No more Papa John for me. Frank

    • David D

      Greed “Papa” that is your motivation, not what is best for your fellow human being, your fellow citizen. Shame!

    • Gayleen

      It’s football season look like someone is going to make a few $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is that enough for every $=0. I’d say he’s at a billion now (maybe)he will only have millions if obamacare is not repealed???????????

  • richard

    i rarely order pizza delivery, and never before papa johns, but next time it will be papa johns

    • Chad

      Richard — this will be cruel and unusual punishment for your taste buds. His ‘za ain’t so good.

  • LTC Mike Dunnings

    I too used to enjoy Pappa Johns. I will never eat there again. The owner should have stayed out of politics and I hope he looses 50 percent of his patrons all who would not mind paying a little more in order for everyone to have access to affordable health care. Mr PJ is a idiot!

    • John Gamble

      LTC…. in what the salvation army? Did 9yrs in the Army… found most officers to be self righteous, arrogant and narcasstic anyway.

  • Maurice

    Wow. What a farce! Papa J. is raising prices because of Obamacare!? Shouldn’t they raise prices because gas prices have gone up 50 cents since the beginning of January? This is hilarious… Better ingredients, horrible tactics, Papa Johns!

  • http://Google Helen Phillips

    I will continue to buy Papa Johns, because it’s the best. We as Americans better wake up, not only will he have to raise his prices, have you been to the grocery store lately, or the gas pumps? Best you all get out and vote this loser out of our White House>

    • Nora B

      The raise in price at the grocery store has NOTHING to do with Obamacare, you ding dong! Haven’t you heard of the drought affecting soy and corn crops? And as I recall, the reason why gas and oil prices have gone up the way they have is because of a little war on terror that your beloved Mr Bush started many years ago…What a farce! You republicans are sooo selfish and only think about yourself, and then you go off spouting patriotism…A patriot cares about their entire country, not an entitled few…

    • GJ

      Says the Papa PR Puppet

  • em

    Its true, and obvious the other poster’s here have never owned a business. .20 cents isnt a lot anyway, and if that keeps his employee’s covered then fine. BUT i think you are all in for a shock once everyone is required to do this, see how many other places start raising their prices so that they can afford the health care. Do some research on the bill itself you will be shocked at the BS that is in it! I guess the idiots posted above just assume for the company to eat the costs, thats how businesses end up bankrupt. morons.

    • dan

      like what? If you are going to throw stones at a program that will lengthen the life of our community and increase the quality of life of everyone in the United States, the least you could do is offer specifics.

    • Gayleen

      OK. Now they say BIG BUSINESS, WE CAN’T AFFORD HEALTHCARE. I would look at the upper management and other places of business to observe and came up with the conclusion that. If I was a millionaire or billionare and this is my country, that I love so much, YOU DON’T THINK WE CAN DO IT, IT COST TO MUCH, THE U.S. IS BROKE. WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE A DEBT FOR OUR CHILDREN. I thought this was the country that showed the rest of world that our standard is better, we are better, we are great, I say we are the trailblazers of the world and now you have this fear of healthcare that is going to kill business, make us weak, All I hear is the same BS and if I hear China, China, China (no offense) who is China and I am not being offensive when I say that I would tell my child that about one of her or his freinds if they were listening to them saying BS all I saying is I know my Berries . Talk to the everyday people and ask them questions ask the single mom who works everyday full or part time. The pizza drivers, the sales clerk, cashiers.

  • http://denise1489@yahoo.com angela

    I am willing to pay a higher price so everyone can have health insurance. And I believe your prices will go up anyway every time you want a pay raise.

    • doug

      Sure you are, Angela… until that higher price involves 10% or more of your paycheck. 10 cents here, then its a dollar & 10 cents, then two 10, etc. Don’t be a sucker. Wake up. Those who didn’t have coverage before always had a place to go, which was a local ER. People that get this insurance will go to their doctors, only to be turned away because the governmental reimbursement rates to the doctor are too low for them to cover the cost of seeing said patients. The sad thing is, once the law goes into effect, it’s hard to go back and change it. All that money will have been spent and nothing will have become of it…. now everyone has insurance… but it sucks…. and we’re still paying for it, year after year after year…. it never goes away.

  • Alex

    So, let me get this straight: $0.14 a pizza increase and all of your employees across the country get healthcare? Sounds like a good deal to me.

  • Evan B.

    Just the opposite of Lisa, I will now be buying more Papa John’s due to this story. He is just telling the truth and explaining the cause of the increase in price. Businesses should not be punished for explaining their political beliefs, and we as America should unite and not divide because of freedom of speech.

  • John M

    I don’t suppose the 30% of Papa John’s stock that he owns has anything to do with it.

  • Suz

    Papa John’s is just raising prices because he’s an idiot. I can understand a price increase because of gas but Obamacare??? He’s just looking for an excuse. I don’t order from Papa John’s anymore. Their pizza sucks, most times the crust is soggy & they charge a delivery fee. It doesn’t matter how many pizza’s you order, there still is a delivery fee. Only pizza place in my area that charges for delivery. Hope he prices himself right out of the market.

  • gerryf

    Here’s the big lie..Papa Johns already offers healthcare to its employees. He is using Obamacare to justify a price increase for something he has already paid for. As a fundraiser for Mitt Romney, he is making a story to increase support for Romney, and like Mitt Romney, he is lying

    • Buffy Singleton

      AMEN! That is EXACTLY what he is doing! He’s a little rich punk!!

    • doug

      but obama doesn’t lie, is that it? for how long have you been delusional? probably as long as the current administration. i feel sorry for you. please apologize today for the (permanent) mistakes in which we’re going to be living in the years to come, should your clown be re-elected. i know that, ultimately, his being re-elected worries you to SOME degree, so do the right thing at the election booth.

  • https://www.facebook.com/cafox71 Chris Fox

    Papa Johns = BOYCOTTED for life. Line your pockets with our pizza money in the name of anti-ObamaCare.. F-U Pizza Boy.

  • Barry Scheidler

    Raise your prices. There are other choices than Poppa Johns and I intend to use them. If poppa johns doesn’t provide affordable healthcare for their employees than I would prefer to patron a business that does.

    • doug

      um, you’re kidding… right? i thought so.

  • Steve

    John Schnatter is a multi-millionaire and part of the 1%. Anything that reduces his income is bad, even if it was to save his mother! What a farce. I have never, and will never buy one of his pizzas.

  • Jim Schnetzer

    A prime example of what Obamacare will bring for small business down the road. I think a lot of small business’s will opt for the small penalty, discontinue company sponsered health plans, and allow employees to obtain health coverage on their own thru Obamas health care pool options. Good luck with that !

  • Bill Gray

    I do not care why he increased his prices (he had a fund raiser for Romney at his home). It is just not good pizza and was already overpriced.

  • Nick

    You whinners wake up. Your comments show your ignorance. Business owners are struggling to make a living. Anything that ads costs of doing business has to be passed down to the customer. We will all pay for Obama care anytime we buy anything. Food included. It is not greed, it is accounting. Something our government ignores and has us in dept by trillions. People, WAKE UP…

  • frank


  • Jen

    I already boycotted him when he had a fund raiser for Spit Romney.. Now he’s blaming Obamacare; something that helps the less fortunate get insurance.. KISS MY ASS, John Schnatter!! You will NEVER EVER see another dime from me again.. It’s obvious he spends more time kissing ass with the rich, than helping the ones who made him what he is now.. Oh wait.. he’s rich asshole.. I’m sorry.. Not.

  • Kelly

    It’s a PR stunt. John Schnatter supports Romney and recently held a fundraiser for him. http://www.wlky.com/news/politics/-Papa-John-Schnatter-hosts-private-Romney-fundraiser/-/9365900/11203698/-/47wixbz/-/index.html

  • Ryan

    Ummmm is anyone bothered by the fact that franchises claim they are worried about employing LESS than 50 people? What pizza joint has FIFTY people on the payroll?!? Really? “I may have to cut jobs to keep my staff under 50 to avoid the fee.” Ummm ok, good luck with that. I smell political BS.

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  • Karen

    I agree, Lisa. I would pay $.25 more per pizza to get people off of medicare and eventually see lower taxes for public services. If someone works in McDonalds or Papa Crap, they should have the option of buying insurance at an affordable rate. I remember a Republican in Georgia trying to force people to enroll in a state insurance plan instead of medicare because then they would still have co-pays and fees for the ER and it would save us all in the long run.

    This sounds like corporate creed – plus political circus to me. Bad PR move, Papa Jackass.

    • http://webpronews Kay

      I’m sorry, but we PAY for medicare, it’s not free.I’m hoping you mean Medicaid.

  • KryptoniteBalls

    The opinions of corporate food presidents & CEOs, what is now dividing America. First it was DOWN WITH CHICK-FIL-A, and now it’s, DOWN WITH PAPA JOHNS. Are you people really this ridiculously nar-tarded, that you attribute the opinion of a president of a company to an entire organization? Can people really be that, just, uninformed?

  • Kelly

    I used to be a manager for Papa Johns. Their prices have been going up for years! In 1997, a large pizza with one topping was $8.99. That same pizza is now $11.99 plus you now you pay a delivery fee of $2. There is a HUGE profit margin on their pizza. This isn’t a company that cares about American workers either. They pay minimum wage and work with skeleton crews. You wouldn’t believe how much they spend on advertising. They could comfortably cover health insurance for their employees without raising prices but there have NO incentive to do so.

    They want to be the new Chik Fil A. They want us to spend thousands ordering more politically motivated pizza.

  • Jane

    I work for Papa John’s and every year we are paying higher costs for insurance, for the past 10 years! I have no idea why now my boss is complaining, oh wait it’s because he’s backing Romney and giving him money that he could be sharing with his 100,000+ employee’s. I have an Aunt that makes less then him, has over 50 employee’s and pays ALL their health and dental insurance….why is this an issues?? We have gone through high gas prices, food cost increase’s, everything in the past 12 years has gone up in price, even health insurace. People need to get a clue! Obamacare is making sure there is more coverage for more Americans when other countries have complete 100% free health care! We need to wake up and move forward and put the blame on the people that actually deserve it.

  • Nancy

    Guess what, Papa John……the cost of everything is going up…quit being greedy and deal with it!!! You might have a better profit margin if your pizza wasn’t really crappy. Sorry, but I’ve tasted a lot of pizza and yours just doesn’t cut it……

  • Russ

    let’s see PJ’s is going to increase its prices 15 cents per pizza to pay for health care which means I am going to pay for some one’s health care.Thanks pj you keep racking in the profits paying 14% in taxes and I just keep getting poorer.Well I can do without PJ pizza. I will just go to lil ceasars

    • http://any Popps

      Hey russ, go to lil’ ceasars all you want… you will still have to pay for the pizza, only this pizza sucks, just like the insurance your buddy barracks obahama wants everyone to get including you, asshole…

  • Ben

    Well, I think I can afford 20 cents more for a pizza if it helps someone get healthcare, although I think with a lot of the posters here that the company can certainly absorb this and still be very profitable. I actually order Papa Johns a lot but will no longer. I stopped Dominos a long time ago due to the Opus Dei religious nut who runs that company. And Herman Cain is the Godfather’s guru. Why are all the right-wing crazies selling pizza? I guess the proper alternative is the corner pizza shop. Can’t stand Pizza Hut . . .

    • Danny

      Right-wing crazies? Care to elaborate on that? Herman Cain is not crazy. He is a smart business man who should not have let the liberal media run him out of his bid for the POTUS. What exactly is it that makes him crazy anyway? The fact that he wants smaller government and less government intrusion in our lives? The fact that he believes in the constitution? The fact that he thinks that Americans are paying too much in taxes? What exactly is it? I’m curious.

      • Ursa Worlds

        What part of the constitution does he believe in the part that says slavery is legal? Cain is a joke.

        • IllinoisCPA

          Or the part that ended slavery, or the part that ended alcohol prohibition.
          Very selective in your indignation.

  • http://msn john s

    I am a Pizza Hut franchise manager who was laid off last year when the owner decided to sell the franchise because he did not want to be responsible for paying the Obama healthcare tax, I respect him as President but I have a feeling that I am not the only one to suffer a job loss from this new tax. Not able to replace job, when I interview talked to like I was at fault for this dilemna. Only blessing is the unemploymnet benefits Obama had to institute from so many people losing their job.Keeping faith in finding work but most not willing to hire or interview unemployed people.

    • Ursa Worlds

      I think what you are saying is a bunch of crock. Most pizza franchises don’t have 50 employees what are your other excuses for opposing Obamacare?

  • Boricua X

    Higher Prices to crappy pizza, sounds like winning strategy

    • IllinoisCPA

      Chose a different pizza. The ObamaCare costs are the same and so will the price increase.

  • Jon

    “a one-time price increase of less than 1 percent! That seems eminently reasonable”
    Well, if you look at it like that it seems reasonable. Now lets see what happens when you introduce logic. How many products do you buy on a weekly basis? I’m sure your grocery bill is more than a pizza a week, now add 1% or 11-15 cents to all your grocery purchases for the month.

  • Candy

    This is a total crock of @hit!!!! I was from Louisville, but I will never order from Papa Johns again!!!! Anyone who reads knows that once Obama care goes into effect in 2014 at first it will cost more, but once it evens out it will save money over all. To think that a huge company that already makes pizza for pennies on the dollar can soak up 11-14 cents out of their profit, is just doing this as a stunt to help Romney!!!!!!!! I think the real reason is cause Obama wants to raise John Schnatter personal taxes !!!!! You already take us the consumer through the ringer with high fees for deliveries. Wake up people it is as if they are saying everyone is not entitled to have health care you have to suffer be in pain and suffer because millionaires are too damn cheap!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Nancy

      Agreed! At first I was thinking–who cares? I don’t mind paying a little extra for my pizza so Papa John’s employees can have health care. Then, the fact the increase comes 2 years early prior to election and it is widely publicized as being blamed on Obamacare,
      hit me. I’ll be getting my pizza’s elsewhere from now on!

    • joe

      Everyone knows it will never equal out. Even the Obama administration has come out saying that the cost is now double the initial estimates they had, and it hasn’t even reached the point of implementation. Great healthcare will never be affordable to all in our society. With obamacare, it appears all will be eligible for some type of healthcare, but it will not be great.

      • IllinoisCPA

        Your logic is lost on most of these people but keep talking and perhaps some of them will wake up and realize that the cost of ObamaCare has already doubled according to the Congressional Budget Office, and there is no care yet, but many taxes.

    • GJ

      I’m with ya Candy!!

  • Sheena White

    THANK YOU for putting this information out there. I’ve ordered my last Papa John’s pizza. Saying that it’s Pres. Obama’s fault is just an excuse. The delivery price went up a year ago – and who’s fault was that? AND Mr. Papa states that the delivery charge doesn’t even go to the delivery person. To heck with Papa John’s!! Never, ever, ever, ever again! Good riddens!!

  • Eric

    I think this is a joke. Blame Obama for an increase for a mediocore pizza is rediculous. I have waaayyy to many pizza options in my area to even worry about Papa Johns. What a joke!

  • http://yahoo eddie

    oh what a pussy blame on obamacare no now you have to taxes.

  • http://na r cotton

    Here it is, after poisoning people for years, PJ is now gripping about having to pay a little something toward their health cost. Shouldn’t Romney be considering him for VP? Romney-Papa John 2012 “Anyone who swallows it, deserves it.”

  • Bob W.

    Are there any pizza stores with 50 or more employees? I have not seen any. Owners with multiple stores will set them up as separate LLC businesses. This is obviously a political stunt.

  • Mark

    SOO during the last 5-7 years you lowered your prices despite the fact that fuel prices (gas) were on the rise. Now your saying that you will have to raise prices because of Obama Care? Sound like BS to me. Yours over head would be much higher with the cost of fuel. Lets not forget to that for businesses Obama care is deductible.

  • Ursa Worlds

    He’s a Romney supported and since he wants to put his one cent in…I won’t be buying his pizza. Anyone that does not want to pay an extra 10 cents for health care doesn’t deserve my money.

    • Ursa Worlds 2

      Good I hope you choke on what ever it is you eat instead you jerk.

      • Ursa Worlds

        Troll…using my name.

    • ravenhair

      It will be a lot more than 10 cents in the future, and you will be paying that 10 cents over and over and over again – it will add up substantially in the future. I’m glad to know you feel you can afford it.

      • GJ

        I’ll be happy knowing it’s going towards keeping hard working Americans healthy and not into the pockets of business owners to fund their new sports car or mansion :o)

        • ravenhair

          You won’t be saying that when reality sets in – and you see just how much this is going to cost you.

    • Brandy

      The extra $.10 isn’t what he will be paying for healthcare, it’s what you will be paying extra for your pizza. Do you really think healthcare is only going to cost him $.10? What lala land do you live in?The average cost of an employer-based family insurance policy in 2008 was $12,680, which was nearly the annual earnings of a full-time minimum wage job. $.10 extra for a pizza isn’t that bad, but consider this, health care costs add $1,525 to the price of every General Motors vehicle. The company spent $4.6 billion on health care in 2007, more than the cost of steel. We now know that General Motors wasn’t doing so well and needed a government bailout.

  • JJ

    I work in transportation. We had to axe health care for employees due to rising costs of everything. Try putting fuel in a 5mpg semi x 50 a week. The $.15 increase is only due to their volume. But once trucking companies have to pay for health care, EVERYTHING will go up substantially. The problem we ran into, was the better drivers got older and costs were nearing $1500-$2000 a month for some that were married. Assuming they do 2 loads per week (long haul), the added costs per load would be $250.00. Just wait til consumers see prices in the store. I suggest people actually have some knowledge of employment before they speak. So actually Papas cost will go up a lot more than the $.15, since it takes semi trucks to even get there. Then add the shippers/manufactures “mandates”….Good luck boycotting everyone and everything. There is a bigger picture than just your one pizza.

    • GJ

      Let em go right ahead and raise prices. The consumer will decide if the product is worth it. No one will blindly pay higher prices just because the company jacks it up. Businesses will try to to raise prices, and then lower them or go out of business. It’s not like companies are not making a profit, they just want to be greedy. The world will go on just fine without a Papa John’s or a Chick-fail-a in it.

      • John Gamble

        GJ… you do realize everything you buy comes off a truck,train, or ship? JJ’s saying EVERYTHING you buy is going to cost more, and he’s right. So go ahead and talk about how you’re going to ban companies that raise their prices. You won’t be buying a thing…. to include groceries.

    • Ursa Worlds

      Everyone knows truckers get treated like sh@t and don’t make enough money it’s not healthcare, it’s greed. Truckers have always been treated bad by there employers..Nothing new there.

      • IllinoisCPA

        “there” is a place.
        Did you mean “their”?

        Your gramar is as bad as your economics.

  • Tiberius1701

    Well, reading some of the previous comments, this must actually be Bush’s fault because NOTHING is Little Barry Soetoro-boy president’s fault. SoetorCare is an abomination that this country cannot afford like so many other boondoggles perpetrated by this the most untransparent, corrupt, ill-equipped administration in history. While this bunch leaks classified intel, decimates the military-don’t believe me, check out SecDef Panetta’s comments on the direction they are taking, treasonous might be an apt definition for these folks.
    One more thing, remember who owns Little Seizure’s Pizza..yep a dyed in the wool Soetoro supporting liberal. So there.

  • confused

    SOOOO, Papa John’s didn’t care enough about it employees to offer affordable healthcare before this?

    I finally understand why we need obamacare, employers are selfish !@#holes.

    • Boricua X

      Couldn’t agree more

  • ravenhair

    I know several business owners who will be cutting jobs as a result of obamatax. I also know many of them have laid off obama supporters. They said, if they want change, they will get it, but mostly they did this because it wasn’t fair to lay off people who do not support obama. As they see it, supporting obama put their business in jeopardy and so they should no longer be employed there.

    • Brat

      Ravenhair, when people lose their jobs because of their political views, we are all in danger of losing our freedom. Any employer who does this is next to a dictator!

      • ravenhair

        Nope – not a dictator, just trying to save their business – nothing wrong with that.

        • Ursa Worlds

          So firing people are saving their business? So what you are saying is if there are good employees that support Obama they would be fired??? That business deserves to go under.

          • John Gamble

            This is actually going on quite a bit ravenhair. Hell, you voted for him…. here’s your change… hope it’s enough to get you home. LOL

  • confused

    JJ, you nailed it. Bigger picture, these people can’t afford highcost healthcare! Let the masses save a few dollars and forget the unhealthy.

    • brenda cantrell

      You are right…we are a greedy nation, and everyone wants all the dollars they can grab, never mind what is actually reasonable. Cost containment is going to be necessary for health care and prescription costs! Canada can buy medicine from America cheaper than an American citizen can. This is so wrong.

  • Bob

    Does anyone get it?

    Every small business with 50 or more employees, that currently does not offer healthcare coverage, WILL have to raise their prices too, in order to cover Obama Care.

    It’s simple math.

    As your costs increase, so too does your price, unless you’re willing to take a loss, which businesses won’t do.


    You people writing these posts are dumb as doornails.

    Go ahead and buy your pizza somewhere else. That other place you buy your pizza from will have to raise their prices too.

    The irony of Obama Care is that the consumer pays for it. How so? Because businesses will just raise their prices to offset the added cost of health coverage.

    Kind of like when Big Tobacco got sued. Want to know what they did to pay for the lawsuit? They raised the price of a pack of cigarettes. So the poor fools hooked on nicotine, where the ones paying (over time) for the damages.

    So while we force businesses to cover their employees, we should also force healthcare providers to put a cap on what they charge.

    Anyone been in to a hospital lately?

    The charges are ridiculous. $90 for a band-aid. $200 for a towel.

    So if you really want to get mad, then get mad at the entire system. Americans are unhealthy. Healthcare providers overcharge us. And insurance companies are greedy pigs.


    Papa John’s is not the problem. They’re just a pawn stuck in this mess.

    • GJ

      And if the product is poor they can just go out of business. A company can raise prices all they like, consumers are under ZERO obligation to buy. Oh no, prices went up, whatever shall I do.. I know, NOT BUY.

    • Brandy

      Yes, dumb as a box of rocks are the posters saying that they now have to pay for someone who is not insured. Guess what, you the taxpayer are STILL going to be paying for someone else’s healthcare under Obamacare. Do you honestly believe that the extra that he plans to take from the rich is going to pay for universal healthcare? If you do, well then you deserve what you get.

    • Ursa Worlds

      We are already paying for health care…when people get sick. At least this way people will be able to get preventive care. Obama Care does address those outrageous costs. If all the states would be on board it would work..as it is some states are already opting out which is really going to make it a mess.

  • Me

    “If Obamacare is in fact not repealed, we will find tactics to shallow out any Obamacare costs and core strategies to pass that cost onto consumers in order to protect our shareholders best interests,” Schnatter vowed.

    I hope Papa John’s lose millions due to Schnatter’s attitude. Putting shareholders before customers is always a bad idea. Papa John’s pizza are crappy anyways. Making them more expensive will do him no favors. Blaming this stunt on Obamacare is ridiculous. He doesn’t have to worry about me being a customer and I will tell my loved ones not to buy any either. I only feel bad for Papa John’s employees and franchise owners at this point.

    • Airneil Crafter

      Corporations are REQUIRED BY LAW to put shareholders first. That has been proven time and time again when shareholders sue the company they are shareholders for, and WIN.

      We do not live in a Capitalist nation. We live in a Corporatist nation. Capitalism is not the evil one. Corporations having the power to run the nation (Corporatism) is the evil in this country.

      Learn the difference.

  • http://ns gil devine

    I would like a mailing address to reach papa John .

    • GJ

      Online Ordering Customer Service
      877-547-PAPA (7272)

      Our Mailing Address
      Papa John’s International, Inc.
      P.O. Box 99900
      Louisville, KY 40269-9990

  • Kathy

    The problem with this article is that the author didn’t really think out the consequences, which is going to be very anti-PJ. To blame this for a price increase that wouldn’t really even be noticed is just ridiculous! There are so many reasons to dislike Obamacare, and this simply isn’t one of them. The main issue with Obamacare, and it’s one that many people choose to ignore, is that health care coverage does NOT guarantee access to health care!

  • confused

    Bob, you are not looking at why healthcare cost so much. Half the people are uninsured, the insured then pay higher prices to keep the healthcare alive. I know first hand how it works. My insurance pays “an allowable” amount, the hospital charges me 3x’s because a papa johns employee couln’t pay his bill. I end up owing because someone has to pay the bill in the end. Hospitals are charging me for other’s healthcare.

    • Bob

      You are simply wrong.

      Even in outpatient situations, prices are crazy high. I had an allergy test, which took 15 minutes, and I was with a RN the entire time, and I was charged $1,500.

      For an allergy test, for crying out loud.

      Nothing serious. Nothing life threatening. But the charge was outrageous for the care I received.

      You can’t tell me I was charged $1,500 by my allergist because so many other people are being given free allergy tests, that I’m paying for. Your logic does not add up.

      • Helene

        Actually that is exactly why your allergy test was $1500. I work in health economics and that is exactly how they recover the difference of those bills which aren’t paid. Where do you think the money comes from? Your entire argument has no logic!

      • Al

        The problem bob is that you have no idea what is going on in the world. The high Health care costs are from uninsured illegals . Just walk down to your local, state funded hospital. I’m there all the time. The ER is their walk-in clinic.

  • Boricua X

    Higher Prices For Crappy Pizza, sounds like a winning formula.

    Oh and Schnatter (or whatever his name is) is a Teabagger.

    He’s just looking to throw dirt on POTUS.

    • John Gamble

      Why? Be cleaner than he is now.

  • ricky cunningham

    After reading this story and all of the comments posted I have to say the real scary thing here is the lack of understanding people have. To say that the president is trying to separate the country then keep on using fake anger to justify overcharging for a product is telling in itself.

    If you take the time to even read the story over half of the comments made show that those people did not our are just Romney supporters trying to help fan the flames of fake anger. In case you somehow missed the main points of the story here they are in a condensed version. I also added in a little common sense information to show the level of deception as well as their lack of respect for their base.

    He already provides health care for his employees so why would he have to raise prices to do something he already does anyway? He is a millionaire and a supporter of Mitt Romney. Of course his comments are politically motivated!! If you can try and find some reason to raise you prices, support someone who is going to save you a bunch on taxes as a rich person, and and blame it all on someone else then that is what I like to call the hat trick. This fake outrage is just another attempt by the opponents of the president to try and deceive people into believing the same old lies that have been proven to be false and just not true.

    Sit there and act like you are outraged over something that you already do is the very definition of shameful and dishonest business tactics.

    How can this guy sit there with that cheesy smile and act like he is experiencing some kind of hardship when there is no way his pizza location has over 50 people employed there? Ever been to a pizza place before? Most are small places with maybe a few tables to sit at.

    It does not take more than 3 people per shift (8 hours) to make pizzas during the busy part of the day. Add to that another 3 people employed as delivery drivers and a store manager you are only talking about 6-12 employees total. This fake outrage is just to re energize their base, and push people who are undecided to vote for them. Talk about Washington or the government controlling you! It is because you are giving them the ability to do just that. What to get mad? Then stop and think for yourself. If you are going to comment on a story at least read it all. In fact reread it a few times if you are not sure you understand the story. Then react. Trust me that so called “anger” is going to feel a lot more real!

    • Joe Ripp

      Anyone that believes the government can provide a service cheaper than the private sector is a fool. Also can anyone tell me of a government program that has worked out the way it was promised?! Social security? nope Medicare? nope the only program that even came close to paying for itself was the WW2 GI bill. They have no idea of the real cost of this program. as to the promise you can keep your current healthcare i ca;; BS Obama is already trying to push the cost up for military and military retirees promised free healthcare to the point they are forced onto Obama rationed care. At the same time he is giving The Muslim Brotherhood, and the Palestinians Billions of dollars from our bankrupt treasury! Anyone that will not admit the care will be rationed need only look at Canada or Britain where the wait times for say a something as simple as a MRI. Obama the nefarious is promising something for nothing and initially resorted to bribery to get it passed. But then we know Obama the nefarious came fro, Chicago Part of Illinois land of the governors that went to prison.

      • Ursa Worlds

        The government if NOT supplying healthcare. It is still provided by private companies.

    • IllinoisCPA

      Only 6 employees per store. But he has more than 10 stores.
      So he is subject to all the rules and recordkeeping requirements imposed under the guise of “health care”.

      He is also subject to more and harsher audits by the expanded IRS to make sure he is obeying those rules.
      Even if he has no changes after the audit he has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars for the audit, in addition to the record keeping expenses.

  • Jimmy

    So a large pepperoni pizza delivery costs $14.
    Makes for a good case to order from a local pizza spot for $9.99 instead of a chain store…

    • GJ

      there you go, supporting the community while you are at it!

  • http://same roger

    you go P.J.

  • William Hill

    Well, let me inform the National Restaurant Association that they’ll see one less customer soon. Restaurant prices are getting ridiculous and that’s before you even consider tipping. I always tip but now I look for restaurants that you don’t ‘have’ to tip, you know, the ones where they take your order at the counter and you do everything else including get your drink. Also, when I do eat at a restaurant with a waiter (that I will tip), I always get water to save myself about $2 to $3 on the soft drink.

  • diego

    This is disgraceful! I agree it’s a political stunt. Shame on you!

  • Dau Tieng 59

    When was the last time the government was low bidder? The government of $500 hammers and $1,000 toilet seats.
    Government healthcare will be as fast and efficient as your local Motor Vehicle Department. “Have a nice day.”

    • IllinoisCPA

      You left out “With the compasion of Attila the Hun (or the IRS)”.

  • GJ

    Happily Boycotting. F U Papa John

  • Tina

    I have worked in the healthcare industry for 10yrs. Hospitals can’t refuse to save a life, even if the patient can’t afford to pay their bill. By the 3rd quarter all -negative accounts are totalled and then divided by all active insured policy holders. In Nov/Dec. while everyone is out shopping and celebrating, your insurance company is preparing your Insurance Increase Notice.

    Yes!!! ObamaCare will cost us more in the initial stage, but overtime it will cost each of us less money. Insurance companies will soon have to compete for your business.

    Many people hate CHANGE and its very hard for them to see the BIG Picture…when they are use to the same ole outcomes.

    Mitt Romney and Papa John are Multi-Millionairs…they REALLY should be ASHAME of themselve for using this SCARE TACTIC. We all are wise enought to know, this is NOT about Obamacare but Mr. Romney and other Millionairs like them PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE IN PERSONAL TAXES.

    • eric

      That says it all Nina

    • John Gamble

      Seems what those millionaires pay already is enough for the 50% that pay zero taxes. How about you all getting and education and a job that provides you with what you need in life and quit mooching off the rest of us?

  • http://yahoo kim

    Thank you! Thank you! Clearly, if you have eyes, this is clear! These millionairs are just trying and will probably suceed at lining there pockets. This owner like most successful business people are thinking of ways to continue to get richer, he has been thinking of a way to justify and increase anyway, now he has one!!!

    • IllinoisCPA

      How does anyone get rich collecting 14 cents to give the government 14 cents?

  • jomosdaughter

    I call Bull**hit. The prices went up and the sizes went down long before “obamacare” came along. Now you buy a large it the size of what a medium used to be, you buy a medium its the size of what small used to be. I say greed cause the prices to go up, just as it did in the past.

    • Kat

      if you go into the supermarket, either the prices have gone up, or the packaging is reduced, on nearly everything, and yes, this happened before Obamacare was passed.

      • Pat

        That’s because of the out of control spending by gov’t and the cost of fuel going up because some socalled leader stopped the oil companies from getting and making fuel here so energy prices rised.

    • JR

      You got that right. All of this shrinkage and price gouging began long before Obama.

  • Danielle Parsons

    Who the hell can pay for their own on his miserly hourly wages????
    Lousy, greedy millonaire son-of-a-bitch!!!

    • IllinoisCPA

      He worked hard to get where he is. Perhaps if you worked harder and complained less you could get a better job too.

      • Ursa Worlds

        I am sure his employees work hard too.


          URSA.. The majority of workers that work at Papa Johns work for the franchise, not the corporation. Read the article agin, it mentions a lady that owns franchises.
          So, its the franchiser owners that will not be hiring more than 50 workers.

  • James Barnes

    So, I guess i’ll never have to eat his Pizza. What a jerk, you dont want health care for the workers in your ‘hot ovens’.

    • IllinoisCPA

      Anything you eat will have this cost built in, so feel free to stop eating. You can live on your hate.

      • Ursa Worlds

        Hate..Papa big bucks is hatin on his own employees.

  • IllinoisCPA

    Let us try to explain this in a rational discussion. My illustration contains numbers I have estimated that may not be exact.

    Assume one millions pizzas are sold on an average day – one for every 330 people in the US. If the price increase is 10 cents – less than the projected amount – that is $100,000 per day that people are paying because of ObamaCare.

    Some businesses will hire fewer people to stay under the 50 employee temporary threashold. That will create thousands more unemployed.

    Some businesses will simply close. More unemployed, plus the investors in those businesses now have nothing to show for years or decades of hard work.

    BTW: this cost increase will also afflict all the pizza suppliers.
    Fewer customers will force them to lay off or cut hours for their employees. If they can stay in business.

    So the price of a pizza goes up another few cents while the ability of people to afford one goes down.

    And to those economic illiterates who accuse business owners, most of whom are NOT millionairs of gouging, wake up. They are only passing on a governemnt imposed cost. None of that money stays in their bank accounts.

    • buttercup

      Oh, you dear sweet disingenuous little thing.

      • IllinoisCPA

        Thank You.

  • Ursa Worlds

    I am happy to see that businesses are finally putting their political views out there. I know where NOT to spend my money.

    • pAT

      I am happy to see that businesses are finally putting their political views out there. Now I know to support a company like papa john’s that has a good political view on trying to straighten out this country and get it back on track. Pizza by Papa Johns tomorrow night.

      • samdash

        There is nothing criminal about offering health care to its employees. I think it’s only human to do so. We can always pitch in the extra dough.

    • Andrew

      So Ursa, do you NOT buy gasoline because of all the horrible things that oil-producing nations do to suppress women? Didn’t think so. Your comment made me laugh though. thank you!

  • http://www.mittandpapaarebuttbuddies.com tommy

    I care less about this douchebag and papa johns pizza than the kardashians at least one of the kardashians has a nice ass papa dbag and the mitts have nothing to offer anyone

  • Velma

    I would happily pay another even thirty cents per pizza knowing that the person serving me the pizza has health insurance. It also would mean that because the server has preventative care, I am less likely to be exposed to anything contagious.

  • paul

    this is just more crap from guys who never lose a penny.if cheese prices go up eventually it is reflected in the price.yes healthcare costs will increase the cost.suck it up buttercup dont be a dickhead.your total cost is going down when all these people go to the doctor instead of the ER.prevention works.

    • Jemtec

      Well said dude!

    • Lisa


  • harold

    My heart rejoices!! For the most part I see people in these comments understanding that the people who serve their food, clean their house, wash their clothes,etc. deserve health care and it’s really “No big strain”. Maybe next we’ll work on a TRUE living wage. Money isn’t everything…share it!

    • John Gamble

      since money isn’t everything, give me some of yours. Tired of everyone claiming their right to something they haven’t earned. bunch of lazy, whiny, give me, no good losers.

      • r b

        i am tired of folks who continue to claim that some one has not earned the right to be paid a decent wage for their labor that affords them housing, food and medical care.

        who determined you have earned the compensation package you receive. they are obviously over paying you.

        • John Gamble

          My wage is determined by my level of education…. 2yr degree… my 9yrs military service… and that I work a high risk job, in a powerplant. When you’re willing to work around high energy/high voltage equipment all day for a living, you too will have EARNED what you make. Seems to be a lot of class envy on here. Didn’t pay attention in high school, now you want us who did to take care of you. typical.

  • http://yahoo.com ToughPower

    So he rather say I want some young kid to deliver my pizzas and God forbid if he is injured in a wreck his hospital bill swill bankrupt him for the rest of his life. I will never by this crap again anyway it’s a terrible product. And if you want to know how greedy this guy is look up what he did to franchisees about 10 -12 years ago.

    • Chris

      This a political move/tactic that Papa Johns is participating in with the Romney camp. The Pizza is terrible, Processed/fake sausage, sause is watered down and lack flavor, the dough taste ok, but in all the pizza’s are terrible. Papa John’s is on the same level as Little Ceasar’s. To loose Papa John’s would be a great thing! Let’s boycott!!!

  • drew payne

    you got to be kidding me. 14cents more a pizza verses giving your employees coverage. i had been a long time fan of your pizzas. i’ll be looking to give my kids some other food thats bad for them now.

    • jim

      You might want to do a double check on the bad for you part. Papa John’s has less crap in the ingredients than any other national chain i have seen. I have been around the pizza industry since i was 15 years old. Check the actual ingredients of all the toppings, dough, and sauces. Most of the places will blow your mind. A few pizza places cheese have the nutritional value of cardboard. So if you want to have your kids eat that kinds of food because you don’t agree with a CEO’s thoughts? You better stop shopping at any place on the planet, you wont agree with any CEO. They are rich and don’t really care about you. They want the money. Think on that for a day or 2 before you send some stupid reply. Also go check the ingredients in all of the food at the other pizza places and tell me you will feed your kids that crap because you don’t like a small price increase and what a CEO thinks. Parenting 101= YOU FAIL In fact you get a 0. Congrats!

  • Truth

    An extra 14 cents. Give me a break. I bet she has medical insurance. These people have gotten rich while their staff struggles to survive. Losing Pappa Johns would be no big lost since they are a part of the health care problem with their artery clogging food.

    • samantha

      I use to like Papa John’s but I haven’t bought a pizza from them in a while. Now this gives me a reason. I have worked in the hospital and have seen people who are not ready to leave be kicked out! My friend had a great job…then breast cancer struck…she is single and does not know what her future will be. She can afford healthcare…the cost are litereally killing her. There are so many people like that. I applaude President Obama for trying to do something about that! He has my vote!!!

      • samantha

        I meant to say,” She cannot afford healthcare…”

    • MM

      Until it’s all of your foods at the grocery store being passed down from the manufacturers to the middle men to the grocery market itself. Until it’s all the clothes you buy, all the movies you watch, basically anything and everything available on the market to purchase. Then watch that 14 cents add up.

  • http://yahoo tammy

    Once again the greedy one’s with money passing the buck off to the little guys. It happens with everything else, why not pizza?

  • D.K. Adams

    Fast track to bankruptcy. Join the Obama parade

  • Andy Allen

    Everyone is going to end up paying more…20 years ago my employees couldn’t pay their home phone bill…now they ALL have iPhones…how is that? 80 % of Americans live within 2 paychecks of being ‘flat broke’, WE spend money on things that we don’t need while trying to be cool or live above our means. I’m a business owner with over 300 employees, we offer insurance now and only 10 employees take it!!! The rest want a .50 cent an hour raise…to help pay for their iPhone!!

    • Lisa

      Thank you. I am going to start to college and when I don’t make a passing grade I want the person that has an A to give me some of it. Why stop at all this free stuff everyone thinks they are entitled to that we working class tax paying people pay for.

  • http://Yahoo urret

    I ‘m glad he came out with his distaste for not wanting his employees to have decent healthcare. I’ll never buy another PapaJohns pizza again and he is going to wish he hadn’t opened his mouth about this when his wallet gets lighter.

    • Andy A.

      “I have never understood why it’s “greed” to want to keep the money you’ve earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else’s money”. ~ Thomas Sowell…there you go, our country has turned into an entitlement state…little Johnny comes home with a 6th Place Trophy 2 feet high, Look Mom – I won! Uhhh, no you didn’t…

  • Cynthia

    To be honest, I don’t like Papa Johns…. I hope they go under. In the Arkansas store they fired all their old employees with made up stories just because they wanted to hire in more people to make less and drive their own vehicles and Papa Johns can’t supply vehicles or gas? They even took away the $1.00 a pizza delived to a place…. Say if one person ordered 10 pizzas, that driver would get $10.00….. Now they would only get $1…. I’m actually glad they lied on my husband and got him out of there… I don’t recommend anyone working there. I hope they are the first ones to go under! Yea I know that sounds bad, but we have kids and they pulled some childish stuff on us and the rest of the employees at the store… All because of greed!

  • r b

    the gop neo socialist economic plan, authored by reagan, is the cause of the current economics. as the owners who follow this plan have discovered, low wages have lead to fewer customers with enough disposable income to purchase their products, which has forced higher prices to sustain past profit margins. at some point in this economic plan, the only customers left will be the owners and share holders. the vast majority of the labor pool will have been reduced to peonage.

    the gop, (reagan), philosophy: as long as what i do will not adversely or detrimentally affect me during my life time i will vigorously deny any of the effects that my actions will cause.

  • Gary

    Papa John tells the truth. I like that, so now I will start buying his pizza and also Chic-fil-a. 2 businesses Obama didn’t build they built it themselves.

    • mike

      No government help at all?I doubt it.

    • Kyle

      You dumb son of a bitch. You do realize that clip was edited to make it seem like he said that. Go look up the original speech.

      And to Amanda Crum: http://ir.papajohns.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=637328

      “January 5, 2012

      After another strong year of growth, including opening its 3,000th restaurant in North America, Papa John’s is again offering franchisees an enticing package of incentives to grow within or join the Papa John’s family.”

      How dare you call yourself a journalist while only telling half-truths.

  • Anna

    This is so typical of big business. He does not want to lose his profitt margin that he built off the backs of people he made next to zip to work for him and then used the roads and bridges, utilites and other resources that are paid for in the taxes HIS employees pay (the company as a whole paid less then 8% taxes per gain last year) I have known people who have worked there for YEARS, no raise no benefits no reimbursement to deliver the pizza work 50 hours a week and make less then 20,000 a year so why not moan and groan that he now needs to take care of the people that help put his money in the bank.

  • C. B.

    This is shame. The CEO of Papa John’s blames his failures on President Obama. Every since he became CEO he is being lowering the prices of their pizza to compete with Pizza Hut. Now that he sees that his plans have failed, he is blaming the health care bill. It is not Obama Care although I am glad President Obama cares about all the people not just the top 2 percent, the fitly rich! There is only about five dollars in a large supreme pizza. Yes pizza is mark up over four hundred percent. I am talking about fast food pizza places. So now it is the president fault that you want to raise the price of your pizza. What is wrong with you assisting your employees in buying health insurance? You make sure your deliver personnel buy insurance for their vehicle. But you do not care if they get sick and need to pay a medical bill. I bet you,your family and close friends have the best HEALTH CARE money can buy. So, raise your price of pizza, but do not think your customer believe the lie that it is because of the HEALTH CARE BILL.

    • mike

      You hit that one out of the park.

  • samdash

    It’s news that eateries and fast food joints offer health insurance to their employees. McD, KFC, Taco Bell, Chic Fil A, Wendys etc, would be long gone if they are to offer HC to it’s employees.

  • Wayne

    Papa Johns pizza sucks so who cares

  • Ray

    Without a doubt this is truly a unique marketing campaign… and why not do it. Look how much business Chic Fil A pick up for hating gays. It will be interesting to see if it works.

    • john

      Showing how much of an idiot you are by saying Chick Fil A hates gays. Dan Cathy has a right to his beliefs and he does not discriminate. Any one is welcome to go there that wants too. I guess you think Romney is a murderer too?

  • don

    if you are supporting romney i will make sure every one in modesto knows about it we will shut you down

  • Mike Hearn

    It amazes me that so much of the people against this healthcare is the ones that more than likely don’t have to worry about having health care because they can afford to have it. I would be willing to bet that over 70% of Papa John’s customers cant afford health care coverage but there in ther lining his profits, and this magot moron has to snivel about a 15 cent raise on a pizza. Guess where I am no longer buying Pizza. I agree with the other commenter if the press had stayed out of this this crap wouldn’t be happening

    • M Schmidt

      People don’t realize, it’s not just about Papa John’s. It’s going to be every company in the U.S. that has a desire to make enough profit to meet their bottom line. I don’t know of anyone who decides to go into business that doesn’t expect to make some type of profit, nor anyone who invests into a company by purchasing stock that doesn’t expect to get a return on their investment. And these same job creaters are no more greedier than the blue collar worker who expects to get a raise from time to time. The fact is any product purchased in the U.S. whether it be food or a car is going to have higher costs added as a result of ObamaCare. It’s just that most companies are not going to be as honest about it as Papa John’s. Even Goodwill has to make sure they make a healthy profit in order to continue to exist!

  • Bonnie

    We’er with ya’, Papa John.

  • Bonnie

    We’re with ya’, Papa John.

  • Sedrick

    Is it a surprise that Papa John himself, aka John Schnatter, the chain’s CEO, is one of Mitt Romney’s biggest supporters? To afford to offer coverage to all the chain’s employees (which shouldn’t be such a problem, as the CEO is one of the wealthiest men in the industry and nation) would amount to 11-14 cents per pizza..and let’s be honest…the only reason Papa John’s CEO has made the loud announcement is to rip at President Obama politically. Hasn’t he learned from the Chick Fil-A situation that it isn’t wise to mix politics with your recipe?