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Singer Michelle Shocked cleared the house on Sunday after going on an on-stage rant against homosexuality in a San Francisco nightclub.

According to a report in the The Bay Area Reporter, Shocked played two sets at Yoshi’s nightclub in the Fillmore section of San Francisco on March 17. Though the first set went fine, after which she tweeted the following:

During the second set, Shocked reportedly began ranting against homosexuality and predicting the return of Jesus. The Bay Area Reporter story quotes her as saying, “When they stop Prop 8 and force priests at gunpoint to marry gays, it will be the downfall of civilization and Jesus will come back.” When asked for specifics on what she was trying to say, Shocked is quoted to have said, “You are going to leave here and tell people ‘Michelle Shocked said God hates faggots.”

The club began to empty and the club’s manager came on-stage to announce that the show had ended. Shocked continued to sing, even when her microphone was cut and the stage lights were turned off.

Shocked became a member of the West Angeles Church of God in Christ choir in the mid-90s. In 2008 the singer told the Dalls Voice that she believes homosexuality is a sin.

Shocked found indie acclaim in the late 80s and early 90s with her albums Short Sharp Shocked, Captain Swing, and Arkansas Traveler. She has been nominated for two Grammy awards, one for Best Contemporary Folk Album for Arkansas Traveler and one for Best Contemporary Folk Recording.

(Image courtesy Sigmund/Wikimedia Commons)

Michelle Shocked: Slurs Used in On-Stage Homophobic Rant
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  • lasaavgold

    When will god fearing people realize that it is god’s job to judge, not theirs? When will they realize that they themselves say that we all are god’s children, yet they question everyone not like them?

    • james

      stupid people are easily confused by the bible, quoting things they don`t understand and ignoring the things they do, like judgement lies in gods hands not yours,

    • thumbsup

      when will people realize that the bible actually does instruct us to “warn the wicked” so they will not perish and if we do not their blood is on our hands. Although it should be done in a spirit of love I’d say this shows how much we love our fellow man that we should tell them what they are doing (homosexuality) is wrong.

  • Bryan Cook

    Yes yes yes Praise God that someone who God has BLessed to a infuential position is willing to say its wrong instead of its ok.GOd will always get his Word across.Look at the movie the Bible how it is affecting the People who see it.Let the Righteous be Righteous still and the Wicked be Wicked.
    GOd Bless you michelle.Know i have prayed for you and the stand you have taken.

  • Annette

    If you choose to live your life in controversy, please do not expect everyone to accept you or your choice. We are not racist, bigots or bully’s. We are allowed our opinion and have chosen NOT to accept your alternative way of life.

    • Michelle

      Are you supposed to accept our life. Well I don’t “Accept” yours. Does it matter?

  • Steve

    someone’s in denial!!!!

  • Michelle

    HAH And her career goes down the tubes, (even more so than before). Couldn’t have happened to a Nicer person. LOL lets see if Jesus will buy your albums

  • http://Yahoo Jason Morrow

    Most people who believe in God are normal. Believe what you will I say. Michelle scares me with these hurtful comments. She was obviously brainwashed somewhere along the way to believe that Jesus was the son of God. Give me a break. Jesus was probably a pretty cool dude showing people who needed a kind and considerate leader that there was hope for humanity. But he’s not coming back, he was mortal and died a hero in the year zero.

    • thumbsup

      Wow Jason…you’re just another brainwashed dude (shaking my head)

    • Brit

      “a hero in the year zero” – love it. Great subtitle for the ‘Jesus – The Motion Picture’ posters. Don’t let Mel Gibson nick it for his next epic.

  • Shirley

    I don’t know who this singer is and I really don’t care. I am straight and I believe in God and I also believe that EVERYONE has a right to live his or her life the way they want. I also believe this singer has a right to her opinion. HOWEVER, if I have paid to go to a concert I expect the performer to perform and not give me a lecture about ANY topic.

    • sheri

      thank you robert..some of these replys are so sad.. but your reply is so right on the money…however unless your eyes are open or you are receptive is much like tossing your pearls before swine.. keep up your good work

  • jeff

    Hey wait a minute, isn’t she…?? Never mind.

    • Ama

      My thoughts exactly, Jeff!

      • MJ

        Honestly,I thought it was known fact that she was a lesbian, what is going on?

    • http://N/A Robert Briggs

      20March,2013
      If Jesus Said He Was Coming Back You Can Put Money In The Bank And Draw Some Very Good Interest On It Dude Because Jesus Coming Back Is A Sure Bet!

      How do I know because I’ve read the BIBLE and it says HE JESUS is coming back.
      If for no other reason just to fight: Read Revalation 19:11 thru 21. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and escape all these things whick are coming up the earth in the not too distand future. (King James Bible)
      Also read 1Corinthians Chapter 15:51 thru 58. May The Lord Jesus Christ Bless You with eternal life with HIM in Heaven with HIM! MN1Robert Briggs United States Navy Retired

    • Brit

      Nah, it’s just a look. You can miss a lot of opportunities at degenerate godless parties making that simple error…

  • http://Yahoo Jake Morrow

    Most people who believe in God are normal. Believe what you will I say. But Michelle and others like her scare me with their hurtful thoughts. She was obviously brainwashed somewhere along the way to believe that the fables about God were real. Give me a break. Now Jesus was probably a pretty cool dude showing people that there was hope for humanity. But Jesus is not coming back, he was a mortal and died a hero in the year zero.

  • Margaret

    snooze. everyone has an opinion, and though she is utterly mistaken on several things (there is no god, and if there was, it sure wouldn’t bother spending time on hating homosexuality when there are so many other fun things to take up its time, such as inflicting horrific and painful lives on children and animals, crafting another Hitler, coming up with terrible new diseases, etc. etc. etc.). Just ignore her; she’ll go away. Luckily, even within the last 10 years, people have realized that being gay is no more of a “choice” than being heterosexual. It’s all genetics, folks!

    • thumbsup

      You are what the bible calls a “fool.” It will be a sad realization when you find yourself burning in hell because of this foolish belief that there is no God.

      • John

        Thumbsup, Margaret may be a fool, but you…are a tool. There is no god. Never has been. Never will be. Show me one ounce of proof that there is a bearded almighty big daddy in the sky. Go ahead, pray to your zombie prophet for a sign. I’ll wait.

  • William M

    This lady is full of so much shit her eyes are Bown she gives christans a BAD NAME. GOD Dosent hate PERIOD. hes a Loveing forgiving being who only wants people to live in Peace and Harmony, and this is Neither. Shes merly being controversial in order to become Popular and gain FAME,THIS is Dispicable and I hope she relizes hat when shes Burring in Hell for spreading hate and anger which are the Bed fellows of True Evil.

  • Ama

    I guess at the West Angeles Church of God in Christ they teach “hate” words! She says that homosexuality is a sin, so is hate!!! And for someone who hates homosexuals, she might want to get a wig or extensions because her looks can be confusing #nooffense to homosexuals. God Loves EVERY1! I guess they do not teach that at “West Angeles Church of God in Christ”.

    • boo boo

      God oves everyone but hates homosexuality. Read the account of Soddam in the Bible and repent.

    • jerry

      You are one crazy stupid woman, God does hate sin, you love sin and all the things of the flesh that is why you bad mouth someone who stands up for the truth

    • thumbsup

      “No offense to homosexuals?” You worry about offending homosexuals but what about offending God?

  • lamont

    expressing ones point of view is not being judgemental, we are all allowed to express what we believe. some believe it is ok and others believe it is not. we are all entitled to speak openly about it. the gay community has the right to express what it believes without backlash from the public. but the non gay community has the right to also express without backlash from the public. but to put god into this equation is a different matter, because we all have to stand before the judgement seat of Christ and give an account for our actions. it is up to each individual to know what the word of god says about this subject.no man has the authority to change what has already been determined by God.

    • thumbsup

      …agree with everything you said

  • walter

    Poor thing. She’s such a has been that this is her only way of getting attention.

  • Ernie Mink

    I am thankful she came to her senses about sexual immorality and abnormal behavior. I work with 2 gay people. But I do not agree with that lifestyle. I am NOT homophobic. That word was created as a label, and not even a true English word. The homosexuality deception is definitely an agenda. Jesus Christ NEVER ever supported or advocated homosexuality, witchcraft or ANY kind of slant or evil, PERIOD. And it is not a religion. Those are the facts. We are not created and brought into this world to be agnostic and selfish, sick and cold-hearted. Love does not mean I have to accept everything out there either.

    • Dmajor

      I actually agree with you . . . Jesus was not pro-gay (though he wasn’t anti-gay, either). The Bible is most definitely anti-gay. It IS a sin, biblically speaking. No argument can be made against that. In my opinion, people acting “shocked” about anti-gay Christians are entirely missing the point. Christianity is anti-gay – - the Christians who claim to be pro-gay are actually taking a “controversial” position in terms of their religion, as they are essentially saying the inspired word of God isn’t true (which is the entire basis for the religion in the first place).

      With all that being said, however, it’s still an incredibly stupid position to hold. Dress your bigotry however up you like, but it doesn’t change the fact that you are one.

      Also, witchcraft? You don’t normally see Christians bring that up, considering it makes the Bible seem silly (though, most of the Bible is pretty silly if you actually think about it).

      • james

        it a sin not to stone your wife if she talks back according to the bible, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!

        • thumbsup

          Wake up silly! Certain things were done away with from the Bible when Jesus came and walked among men. However, the punishment for homosexuality, or any other sin, has not, or will not, ever been done away with. Love them yes…but condone them NEVER!

          • james

            some things were done away with and some were added what gave man the right to change gods words, so you just pick and choose what you want to obey in the bible

    • james

      bunch of god worshiping cannibals, drinking the blood of Christ and eating his body, wake up people god hates no one, just because your bible confuses you, maybe some people should read it again ignoring all references to hate, the bible was written by the hands of man and we know man is flawed

    • thumbsup

      Good for her and good for you!

  • Openminded44

    Wait a minute ! I personally don’t care if someone is gay. they are no different than the rest of humanity except for their sexual preferences. However, even though I have not read the entire article as it did not
    really interest me, I see a lot of “hate” posted as well. So how does that make you any better. You don’t
    have to agree or disagree with her but it’s interesting to see the hatred towards her for hating the gays.
    Aren’t you doing the same as well. What I do hate is when artists of any kind voice their political or religious
    views during concerts. They should not use that forum for their opinions and condemnation of others .
    People go and pay to hear them sing not to hear them voice their views ! By the way, my son is gay.

    • thumbsup

      You don’t personally care if someone is gay? That’s the kind of closedminded and detrimental thinking that is sending this country to hell. Close your mind to what Satan loves and OPEN IT to what the Bible says.

      • John

        The bible is a FICTIONAL book written, edited and translated by man. It is no more “real” than the writings of any of the others religions that have existed for thousands of years. It is nothing more than a way for a few to control the many.

  • Linda

    Thank God someone is not afraid to exercise her constitutional right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH. WAY TO GO MICHELLE!! It’s time decent people spoke up against those *^%%#**.

  • Fisherman

    I’m glad to see some people stand up against gay’s. Everyone wants to knuckle under or be politically correct. Gay’s seem to cain’t do no wrong.They can say or do as they please and no one comments.I feel for the people that live that life style. Maybe they have no choice.May be it is genectic. I don’t know. But God made male and female for reason. If not how come he didn’t made 2 males or 2 females? If you want to live a gay life ok, but don’t go around trying to shove it down everyone elses throat.

  • keith

    In both the old and new testament it says that it is an abomination for a man to lay with a man and a woman to lay with a woman and for either to sleep with the beast of the field. Now you have the right to do what you want. If you don’t belive the bible is the word of God sent to man that’s your choice. You have to live with your decisions, whether they be right or wrong. We all do. If there is no God and no eternal damnation, then I will have missed out on a lot of things.

    • thumbsup

      well said!

  • Richard

    The last time I checked we lived in a free country, which means we have the right to express our views (freedom of speech). My view is homosexuality is a sin and therefore homosexuality marriage is wrong. I base my views on the teachings of the bible. I think that is a good place to start when confronted with issues or morality. As far as hate and intolerance goes, most of what I hear is coming from the homosexual community and not from the straight community.

    • Linda

      God bless you.

      • SeattleSlough

        So, you invoke God’s blessing for those with whom you agree. Newsflash: God blesses everyone. No exceptions.

    • John

      Dude, you need to brush up on a few things. Your right to free speech gives you the right to speak out without fear from retaliation from the GOVERNMENT. It does not protect you from getting your show shut down and being removed from a club because you’re a bigoted jackhole.

  • Linda

    Also meant to say, I guess she’ll spend a lot of time apologizing which she shouldn’t do. Decent people have rights too. At least we used to.

    • Twitter

      There was nothing “decent” about her hate rant.

  • http://yahoo.com glennis

    What is wrong with being gay? God said we are one, all of us will die gay or straight.Come on everyone live their life how they want.

    • Jay

      We are not called to live our lives as we see fit to do…
      we are called to live them as GOD wants us to live them.
      The only way we know how to do that is to read the Bible, asking God to explain what we are reading and to help us put
      it into practice…. which takes time and devotion and
      appreciation for what Jesus did on the cross for each and every one of us. He gave His life so that we can live ours as a blessing
      to all we come in contact with…… with His help!

  • http://N/A Robert Briggs

    20March,2013
    Read Revelation Chapter 20:verses 4 thru 15. Last but, not least read Revelation Chapter:21 verse 8 (King James Bible)

    If you really want to know about those things that are soon to take place then read the Chapters and Verses listed. I specified the King James Bible because it is the one I have and the one I believe is the best or most accurately translated out of the Greek Language which is the language the New Testament was translated from. The Old Testament was translater from the Hebrew Language except for the Book of Daniel and it was translated from the Chaldean Language. May You Be Blessed With A Saving Knowledge Of The Lord Jesus Christ. To be saved and have eternal life ask Jesus Christ to forgive you of all your sins and save you. May You Be Blessed With Eternal Life With Jesus Christ My Lord and Savior. MN1 Robert Briggs U.S. Navy Retired 20March,2013.

    • ken

      Why is the King James bible a better translation than any other one? Because it’s older? Or does it conform more with what you already believed?

  • Mistymg

    OMG! I believe in God but I do not believe in religion. I do not believe I need someone else or a book to tell me the difference between right and wrong. Until you are perfect, (a.k.a. Godlike), you need to concern yourself with the betterment of yourself. Everyone will answer for what they do in this life but they will not answer to me or you so turn your judgements on yourself and work on what you have the right and the power to change. Your project in this life is YOU. Concern yourself with THAT.

  • emily

    It saddens me to see all of the hate and arrogance in these messages. Those who are believers (I am one myself) should not judge others and tell them they are going to hell. That is up to God. No one has ever been brought around to the message of Jesus through hate and judgement. Just live your life in kindness, and you will receive better results. Again, I am a believer, but I am tolerant and accepting of any legal behavior between two consenting adults. It is none of my business, and I let go and let God sort all of that out. Unfortunately, many people pick and choose what they want to believe. They quote the Bible about sodomy and then judge others and spread fear and hate. That is exactly what the enemy wants. Learn to co-exist; we are all human beings trying to make our way in this world. The LGBTQ community has a harder time than most; why make their life more difficult? You think that will bring them to God?

    • TGIF

      Michelle wasn’t judging, she was speaking truth. No one says anything about judging pedophiles or rapists, but heaven forbid we speak truth about homosexuality.

  • http://Yahoo Jimmy

    I am SO sick of hearing about the “gay” community and its issues. First of all, I wish the media would show some backbone and quit caving in to every demand made by the “gay” community. And let’s call a spade a spade. These people are NOT “gay”. Little children are gay and happy. These folks are homosexuals. Look it up. Let’s demand that the media use the correct term from now on. And those of us who find the homosexual lifestyle to be abhorent are not “homophobic”. we don’t FEAR the homo’s….we just don’t want anything to do with them.
    So please…..if you are homosexual, like my sister, please keep your mouth shut and go on with your lives as the rest of us do. Quite frankly, we are all very tired of hearing from you and about you.

    • JJJ

      You lame worthless prick.

      • ER

        You’re a dick JJJ!

        • JJJ

          Great!

    • Nicole

      I’d have to agree with you, but the one thing that kind of grinds my gears is how they make homosexuality seem common. Not even ten percent of the US’s population is gay.

      • JJJ

        When homosexuals are given the same rights (i.e. taxes, insurance and other benefits) as heterosexuals the discussion can end. Very simple.

    • Jason

      So thats it you want them to shut their mouth and move on. Forget the fact that they cant enjoy the same rights and liberties that every other heterosexual american like you and me gets to enjoy. If you dont like it fine thats you. You think its a sin fin thats you. But you have no right to to attempt to withhold rights from anyone. How about you shut your mouth and deal with it

  • TGIF

    The sting of a reproach is the truth of it.

  • Deborah BInnion

    All I have to say is: Jesus Christ Michelle! When we first met, you had just thumbed it up from Austin (high on acid) to Ashley’s kitchen. What were you on last night? You shouldn’t have done that. That’s negative.

    • TGIF

      She was “on” Holy Ghost”. It’s okay for people like Niki Manaj to tell people they are possessed while on stage, but if the Holy Spirit speaks through a singer like Michelle, she must be doped up. Is that the message I’m hearing?

  • Twitter

    During the second set, Shocked reportedly began to rant against homosexuality and predicting the return of Jesus. The Bay Area Reporter story quotes her as saying, “When they stop Prop 8 and force priests at gunpoint to marry gays, it will be the downfall of civilization and Jesus will come back.” When asked for specifics on what she was trying to say, Shocked is quoted to have said, “You are going to leave here and tell people ‘Michelle Shocked said God hates faggots.”

    Well, I’ve got some news for you self righteous haters. God hates you more than “faggots.”

  • Nicole

    Well, Michelle, coming from a Christian…hate to break this to you, but you need to be confronted with the truth. God doesn’t say one thing about hating gay people in the Bible…not one. God does say that men lying with men and women with women is against nature and an abomination, but so are lying, fornication, abortion, pride, stubbornness, murder, sorcery, blasphemy…so, hey, if we’re going to go there, let’s go there. We all fall short. You can make people aware, but there’s a way to go about it and shaming or spewing hate isn’t going to work. Let God handle judgment. It’ll make life a whole lot easier.

    • TGIF

      Yeah, they were a little upset with Jesus when he started flipping tables at the temple too. Oh well. Truth burns doesn’t it?

    • JJJ

      When homosexuals are given the same rights (i.e. taxes, insurance and other benefits) as heterosexuals the discussion can end.

  • Patrick

    Hate is not a family value!

  • robot

    What?? If she’s anti gay, why does she choose to look so “butch”??

  • Lonnie

    How about we just pray that we each receive the grace and mercy to find our way to the truth of GOD’s word.
    By the power of the Holy Spirit we recieve the law of GOD in our hearts to inform our conscience. Let each man and woman find his/her way to the Ha Mashiac (the Christ) by grace so that we might be saved. Beaware that the saved sin but are forgiven by grace because of the attonement which was paid by the Christ. If you truly believe you will see all people with new eyes and know that any criticism or judgement you might express may very well be made manifest in you. Not by GOD, but by Satan who is the accuser of the brethren. Homosexuality grieves the spirit but so does racism, gossip, covetousness and sexual immorality of any kind. It is in our nature to do and think about these things because of the flesh is corruptible and profits a man/woman nothing. But the flesh fortified by the spirit can be healed physically spiritually and mentally and be glorified so that past sin of any nature is forgotten by GOD and he will see you as the righteous new man clothed in the armour of righteousness of our LORD YESHUA BAR ELAH HA’CHAIM (translated: LORD Jesus son of the living GOD.

  • http://yahoo ron

    GOOD FOR HER … THE WOMENS HAS GOT SOME GRIT ! ! ! ! ! !

  • Mistymg

    These two judgemental people walk into a bar. The guy watching where HE was going ducked.

  • Trav

    It’s funny that the homosexual community preaches freedom of expression. She should be free to express her views too. Wether I agree with her or not, personally I don’t give a crap either way, she should be free to express her views.

    • david

      Trav,

      Sounds like Michelle did express here views freely, and so did the people at the concert, they left. No one got hurt, 1st amendment in tact.

  • Buzz Node

    Ultimately what Michelle Shocked says or thinks is irrelevant. God says through His word that homosexuality is a sin. Guess what people, God is judge and jury, so what He says goes. Whether or not we believe, like it or accept it. God’s word will stand and His justice will prevail. You’d be well advised to get right with God and accept and follow His Son, Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.

    • AB

      AMEN!

    • Kat

      God also said do not wear clothes of two different fabrics. You follow that one, too? You cannot pick and choose which parts of the bible you want to believe and which to discard. If you are going to follow the bible, then follow ALL of it.

  • http://webpronews.com Sam Stephenson

    Expressing hate from a religious base is contradictory and stupid.

  • james

    I thought she was gay?!!?? Guess she’s just stupid.

    • elvispresley

      Stupid? I says in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin. Is the Bible stupid as well?

      • Kat

        Yes, the bible is beyond stupid.

  • Sarah R.

    The concept of “sin” is misunderstood by most religious critics. The word “sin” in almost all languages where it is used, means “without.” Thus, a sinner is anyone or all humans born into this world, without God. It doesn’t matter if we’re straight, gay or transgendered. All are born in sin. Thus the need to acknowledge our predicament and to seek God’s forgiveness through the Grace of His Son, Jesus Christ, who died for all humanity, and who was resurrected after three days, so that all who believe in Him may have life. All who believe in Him, not just straights. John 3:16.

  • Greg

    When religion and stupidity meet…

  • Aleta Dorado

    Good job Michelle.These are not her rules they are GODS.Homosexuality is a SIN!!! It’s funny how we can live by the many LAWS of man but then GOD ONLY has 10 COMMANDMENTS REALLY!!!! Homosexuality is a confused sickness that needs to be treated as one.It’s everywhere in movies on tv shows,commercials it’s now forced on US…….ENOUGH!!!!!If we don’t SPEAK UP then we also will be denying GOD….

    • Ruby

      Or people could just stop judging other people, which is also a sin! No great or small so who is the biggest sinner here? all the same. I believe smoking is a sin – so I stopped. So if you believe it to be a sin, don’t do it – but no one has a God given right to judge others!!!

  • http://N/A Robert Briggs

    20March,2013 Amen!

    If your are serious about wanting to know about what GOD thinks and said about the last days here it is: 2 Peter Chapter 3 verses 3 thru 7 (from the King James Bible)

    Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lust, and saying, where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old and the earth standing out of the water. Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, pershed: But the heavens and earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and pedition of ungodly men. verse ten (10) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

    Read verses 8 thru 18. MN1 Robert Briggs U.S. Navy Retired and Vietnam Vet.

  • Bill Fox

    I always love people with the guts to speak truth to power. Today Gays and the most degenerate in society have power – certainly not religious Christians. The Gay Mafia in SF – and now America – has made it the kiss of death to speak out against homosexual marriage – especially if this comes from a strong religious belief that marriage is a sacred pledge between a man and a woman. Yes, we are now so advanced as a culture that we have nude perverts sitting naked in restaurants and we are supposed to accept this as just another lifestyle choice. The key point I make here is that the activists among the Gay community have gone too far. Acceptance of a lifestyle is one thing. Rubbing it in our faces is another. A culture that tolerates perversion, murder of unborn children, and euthanasia on the weak, elderly is indeed a decadent society that will no doubt implode from its own corruption. The pendulum always swings back. So you degenerate illiberal locusts of the left – enjoy it while it lasts. Do some of us “hate” perversion and the destruction of the civil society? Yes. But as Christians and Jews – we do not hate you – we hate that the decadent cult of death that gives us same sex marriage, abortion, euthanasia and simply no longer values life.

  • elvispresley

    I think she’s just trying to get back in the spotlight. you have to give her some credit for saying that stuff in the capital of homosexuality

  • Me

    Belief can be a beautiful thing. Faith a sacred one. Truth but a perception. Life a wonderous and often remarkable gift. These in themselves are truths. These in themselves debatable.
    The christian bible is a book. That is truth. The canons chosen by men with agendas that ranged from royal decrees to religous and political agendas. The bible is a remarkable work. It is written by men, in some cases as historical records, in others as their interpretations of God’s and even Jesus’s thoughts and words.
    I have faith in my God but do not believe every thought and word uttered in the bible comes from him. The bible was created by man and as such, is an imperfect thing, influenced by the thoughts and agendas of men, at times unintentionally.
    Our judgments should be reserved for ourselves and not those around us. Especially not when it is based on a book that has been worked and reworked by the hands of man.

    • Bill Fox

      Well said. Unlike many true believers I do not believe that the bible is the word of God, but the words of man, some inspired by God. In the millennia since the old testament was written, words and language has evolved and changed: Aramaic, Old Hebrew, Latin, Greek, Old English, Modern English. The words, the meanings have not always translated from one language to the next. I have a difficult time understanding English written a couple hundred years ago let alone ancient languages of thousands of years ago. How are we supposed to trust the many translations, many languages, and yes, the politics of the church that give us these words? Yes, there is much to learn from the Bible but the problem of language, time and modern science shows us that not everything is to be taken literally.

      Having said that, I do not need a book or anyone to tell me that abortion, euthanasia, or gay marriage is bad. My criterion is simply life. Is it life affirming or not? Gay marriage is not.

    • annette

      That was very well put, thank you.

      • annette

        my comment was to ME, and most certianly not to Bill Fox…..it put my comment in the wrong place.

  • http://N/A Robert Briggs

    20March,2013 Amen!

    If your are serious about wanting to know about what GOD thinks and said about the last days here it is: 2 Peter Chapter 3 verses 3 thru 7 (from the King James Bible)

    Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lust, and saying, where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old and the earth standing out of the water. Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, pershed: But the heavens and earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and pedition of ungodly men. verse ten (10) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

    Read verses 8 thru 18. MN1 Robert Briggs U.S. Navy Retired and Vietnam Vet.

    About homosexuality IS IT A SIN? Yes but so is adultey and fornication so there is no difference right? The Bible calls homosexualuals Dogs refer to Revelation Chapter 22 verse 15 and in the Old Testament Deuteronomy Chapter 23 verse 18. These are what GOD says about any kinda of homoosexuals or Sodomites as the Bible calls them. Dog/Keleb in the Hebrew or sodomites. This is what God calls them.
    Robert N Tn

  • coralyn

    C’mon….god and the bible are merely fairy tales invented to explain the unknown. Marx said it best when he said, “religion is the opiat of the masses.” Y’all are high!

    • A Watchman

      Coralyn,
      But, just think about this: if the Bible IS correct…which way are YOU headed?

  • http://N/A Robert Briggs

    20March,2013

    Satan lied in the garden of Eden and he is still lying today to all of man kind but, his greatest lie is yet to come! Know and understand he satan was a beautiful beaning and was kicked out of heaven by GOD.Ref:(Luke Chapter 10 and verse 18) Satan wants to be Worshipped like GOD! That is why there are so many different religons. Don’t be decieved by Satan! There is only one mediator between God and men and that mediater is The Lord Jesus Christ. Ref to:1Timothy Chapter 2 verse (5) five: For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; verse 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Jesus is the mediator between God and Men not the POPE! Jesus is the only one who can cleanse one from all their sin and no one else and this includes the Pope. That wicked One is Syn:lawlessness, unrighenousness,transgression,insult,harm,reproach,injustic and iniquity.
    Praise The Holy Name Of The Lord Jesus Christ!
    Robert Briggs N Tennessee

  • Gloria

    I was raised in church and I can say in my experience that the people who judge others and stab you in the back outside of church are the very one who call themselves Christians. I have been hit on by preachers who wanted to “help me to understand” so I have no use for anyone who calls themselves christian. People go to church to see and be seen. I was raised in Church of God and taught by my parents to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I say all of the bible can be interpreted any way you want to twist it. Trust and believe in yourself, life is to short to not be happy. If I am going to be judged by a higher power it will be on how I treated others and not who I slept with. My mother always said sex rules the world, what a sad world we live in. I have been married to the same man for 21 great years and I have friends who are in a same sex relationship for as long as I have been married and I will not judge them for being happy.
    Clean your own house before you start on someone else.

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