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Now that Paul Ryan has been chosen as presidential candidate Mit Romney’s running mate, the incessant digging into Ryan’s past has commenced. As a part of that digging, the candidate’s beliefs and past speeches are now being vetted.

As relatively young as Ryan is for a vice presidential candidate, the idealistic beliefs he may have held in the past are still fresh enough that they could come into play during the election. This week, the question over whether Ryan is an adherent to the philosophy of Ayn Rand has resurfaced.

In an interview with the National Review in April of this year, Ryan disavowed any beliefs in Ayn Rand’s Objectivist philosophy. From the interview:

“I reject her philosophy,” Ryan says firmly. “It’s an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a person’s view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas,” who believed that man needs divine help in the pursuit of knowledge. “Don’t give me Ayn Rand,” he says.

The Objectivist philosophy, at a basic level, promotes selfishness as a virtue and rejects altruism. It teaches that individuals should act in accordance with whatever is in their own rational self-intrest. Rand’s beliefs are widespread in Libertarian and some Republican political circles, and mesh well with the promotion of laissez-faire capitalism.

While Ryan’s current sentiments seem clear, it was only seven years ago that Ryan delivered a speech to the Atlas Society in which he praised Rand and credited the woman as his inspiration for entering politics. He even mentions that his staff and interns are required to read Rand’s most well-known novel, Atlas Shrugged. From the speech, which can be heard here:

“I grew up reading Ayn Rand and it taught me quite a bit about who I am and what my value systems are, and what my beliefs are. It’s inspired me so much that it’s required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff. We start with Atlas Shrugged…”

” But the reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand. And the fight we are in here, make no mistake about it, is a fight of individualism versus collectivism…”

“It’s so important that we go back to our roots to look at Ayn Rand’s vision, her writings, to see what our girding, under-grounding principles are. I always go back to, you know, Francisco d’Anconia’s speech on money when I think about monetary policy. And then I go to the 64-page John Galt speech, you know, on the radio at the end, and go back to a lot of other things that she did, to try and make sure that I can check my premises so that I know that what I’m believing and doing and advancing are square with the key principles of individualism…”

Francisco d’Anconia and John Galt are characters in Atlas Shrugged.

It seems as though Ryan is rejecting Objectivism due to its atheistic bent. Ayn Rand described Objectivism as a purely rationalist philosophy, and was outspokenly scornful of religion. Considering the large base of Republican voters who are religious, it is no surprise that Ryan is distancing himself from what appear to have been the beliefs that motivated him to become involved in politics.

(via ABC News)

Ayn Rand Disowned by VP Candidate Paul Ryan
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  • Nemoque

    There is no doubt that Ayn Rand held to an Atheistic philosophy, and she was inconsistent in her own life; however, many of her economic principles are true. Let’s be honest. Who in his right mind intentionally does things harmful to his self-interest? We have seen what happens when “good intentions” are made social policy, such as welfare. It has utterly destroyed the black community.

    • Brad

      Nemo, I’ve seen many people do things that countered severely their self interest. It’s often a sacrafice for a loved one. Mothers do it all the time. Even more inane is your comment on welfare destroying the black community. When it wasn’t slavery it was 99% wretched poverty. Welfare had monstrous problems, yet it also helped many people both black and white! As a once dedicated Republican I’ve been wondering in the past few years what explains their ugly change. Rand’s ‘me first’, ‘I’ll get mine and to hell with others’ view says a lot. Sad!

      • Brad

        Brad,

        It seems you feel rational self interest means something different than Ayn Rand’s view of it. A mother is going to sacrifice for her daughter, because she values her daughter’s life more than her own, and so she is still acting within her rational self interest to put her daughter above herself.

        People view selfishness as evil, when if you truly look at the meaning of self interest you would see that it is not self interest that is the problem, it is people CLAIMING things are ‘selfish’ when they actually are not.

        For example: “using cocaine is selfish”. That is false, when you consider that true self interest means acting in a way that is in your best long term interest, doing drugs that are harmful to your body for immediate gratification is actually a poor decision.

        So if you can understand a different perspective, you would possibly see that ‘true’ rational self interest is much different than the label ‘selfish’ that gets thrown around in today’s society.

        • j Ray

          oh, thank you! It’s so nice to hear that someone else gets it!

  • desertdog7

    Nemoque, did you know there are more whites on welfare than blacks? Funny how the image of welfare is only associated with blacks.

    • Jason

      You’re exactly correct that there are more whites than blacks on welfare, but that’s hardly the point, which you seem to have missed. The point is this: by creating a system of dependence and then foisting it wholesale onto a portion of society, as America did with welfare and black America, we fostered an entire *culture* of dependence, which in turn has bred a generations-long pattern of poverty, anger and disenfranchisement. It’s not only blacks, mind you, it’s very much whites too–black people are usually the poster children, so it’s understandable why someone would use them as an example, but the truth of the matter is that these bad ideas apply to all human beings.

      Personally, I would never vote for Mitt Romney and pals OR Barack Obama, because they’re all cut from the same Fascist cloth. The short-sighted views of Democrats who seem to actually BELIEVE that the Republican party is interested in free markets, Laissez-Faire *anything* or small government, in spite of their very recent 8 year track record of subverting Liberty and its economic corollary, Capitalism, expanding government and creating record spending programs just a few short years back, one thing is abundantly clear: the Republican party IS NOT FOR free markets, individualism or Liberty. It’s for the same thing the Democratic party is for: Power, power, power.

  • Dana Hatzimichaels

    Many young misguided people get a little hooked on Ayn Rand and then come back to reality later in life. If this is the BEST the Democrats have against Ryan, God help them. Ayn Rand was a basket case, for the most part. Some of her theories might be helpful in..say, motivating a sales force, or helping someone identify goals, but to make “Objectivism” a lifestyle and a personal value system is a huge fail, and Ryan knows this…so get off his case.

    • Gene

      Young, misguided people? Ryan was in his 30s when he gave that Atlas speech and foisted Atlas Shrugged on his staff. Give me a break. You can’t just characterize his obviously sincere, knowledgeable views about Ayn Rand a few years ago as just misguided idealistic youth. So he disagrees with her atheism but what about all the other stuff she pushed that is dialectically opposed to the Christianity he now professes? Judging from his economic and political views, he hasn’t given up on Ayn Rand.

    • andrew

      Dana,
      Ryan is 42…7 years ago he was not a “young,misguided” person, he was a man.

  • Geoff

    It does not bother me that Ryan has recast himself to suit the circumstances, because all politicians do to some extent–and because people’s ideas do evolve.

    What bothers me is that we may be on our way back to 19th Century economics, with its cycle of booms and catastrophic collapses. The strategy of spending or investing extravagantly when rich and skimping when poor makes good sense when applied by an individual in a stable economic environment. However, when entire nations follow the same strategy cooperative interactions develop that cause huge economic bubbles and then very long-lived depressions. The so-called Long Depression at the end of the 19th century lasted 25 years.

    The government is the only institution that take the steam out of the huge expansions with higher taxes and higher interest rates and then cushion the downswings with deficit spending. If Ryan somehow becomes President, the USA and the world will relearn at great expense the economic lessons of the 1930s.

    • Osamas Pajamas

      Sorry, Geoff, check out economist Murray Rothbard on how the inflation of exchange media created boom-and-bust cycles — and how the government takeover of exchange media made sure that these would have a nationwide effect. By the way, Rothbard was an ally of Ayn Rand, as I am, although I am not sure if he was an atheist or a Jew [Rand was Jewish by bloodline].

      See Rothbard, free in pdf at —-

      http://misesorg/books/whathasgovernmentdonepdf
      “WHAT HAS GOVERNMENT DONE TO OUR MONEY?”

      and —

      http://misesorg/rothbard/agdpdf
      “AMERICA’S GREAT DEPRESSION”

    • Osamas Pajamas

      Sorry, Geoff, check out economist Murray Rothbard on how the inflation of exchange media created boom-and-bust cycles — and how the government takeover of exchange media made sure that these would have a nationwide effect. By the way, Rothbard was an ally of Ayn Rand, as I am, although I am not sure if he was an atheist or a Jew [Rand was Jewish by bloodline].

      See Rothbard, free in pdf at —-

      http://misesDOTorg/books/whathasgovernmentdoneDOTpdf
      “WHAT HAS GOVERNMENT DONE TO OUR MONEY?”

      and —

      http://misesDOTorg/rothbard/agdDOTpdf
      “AMERICA’S GREAT DEPRESSION”

    • Vince Bert

      Rid ourselves of the Federal Reserve Board and that will be a first step in restoring the economic health of the nation. Then start sending the Banksters to Federal Prison for 20 years or so (I’d rather hang ‘em) for lying and plundering Wall Street and our treasury. The rest would fall in line overnight.
      Vincent Bert Commentary.com

  • Rich

    No Way!!!! A politician talking out of both sides of his mouth? Really!? No, REALLY?!

    What an absolute contradiction – Ayn Rand (confirmed atheist) but ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in Atlas Shrugged. Anyone familiar with the book / concept knows she was right (at least about that, not much else).

    Paul Ryan – (confirmed catholic) but ABSOLUTELY WRONG in selling his soul to whomever pays the most for it. If he were true to his faith, he would have nothing to do with the non-christian, 1%’er, Mitt Romney.

    We need to fire ALL OF THEM (repubs and dems) and start over again. The folks with morals, ethics and spiritual beliefs, diminished as they may be, are soon going to find themselves in a position where they are no longer the voice of the people. They are the voice of the silenced – afraid to speak up against what has become the majority.

    Anyone else think our forefathers would not have put up with this bull$h!t for one SECOND?

    And before everyone starts jumping down MY throat, I am a registered republican, embarrassingly enough.

    • Henry

      Do you know how old our fore fathers were who signed the Constitution? Probably not. Most of what they believed, if dissected by the press today would not pass muster. Good thing there was no internet then. There would be no Constitution today. The short version of “Atlas Shrugged” does not work and most of the people out here would not get past the first 50 pages before putting it down. By John Galt they would truly be confused.

  • Jim Green

    While NAZIs were socialists, complete with gun control, nationalized health care and taking from well off political opponents and giving to the “volk” (like Obama gave GM to the unions) That doesn’t make liberals Nazis or Nazi sympathizers. So too, Rand’s brilliant points about Government control and self interest driving production can be embraced, without swallowing her atheism and sexually deviant values. She also stated in several interviews that there was nothing wrong with charity if a person wanted to do it. When forced, however, it became theft from one for the benefit of another.

  • Jim Green

    While NAZIs were socialists, complete with gun control, nationalized health care and taking from well off political opponents and giving to the “volk” (like Obama gave GM to the unions) That doesn’t make liberals Nazis or Nazi sympathizers. So too, Rand’s brilliant points about Government control and self interest driving production can be embraced, without swallowing her atheism and sexually deviant values. She also stated in several interviews that there was nothing wrong with charity if a person wanted to do it. When forced, however, it became theft from one for the benefit of another.

  • Bill

    Typical politician. Trying to cover up and rewrite history. Just be honest!If you are for/against big government,abortion,taxes,spending,
    etc. then just say so! You can’t please every voter out there, so just be honest! It’s not rocket science, people.

  • Everyman

    Atlas Shrugged Part 2 will be in theaters October 12th, 2012.

    • Osamas Pajamas

      Yay! And Paul Ryan will enjoy it, too! Oh, and I’ll vote for him and Romney — no matter how the Democrats try to persuade Christians that Paul Ryan is either a closet atheist — or a hypocrite.

  • MICK DANIEL

    There’s no such thing as a “self-made billionaire”.

    If somebody is fortunate enough to become a billionaire, then said somebody did so as the result of having the privilege of doing business with the people.

    Taxes are how we pay for the privilege of doing business with the people.

    If we don’t pay our taxes, then the privilege of doing business with the people can be taken away.

    Why do we have to pay for the privilege of doing business with the people?

    Maybe you have heard those who advocate tax cuts use the phrase. “Money doesn’t grow on trees.”

    Well the proper rejoinder to that phrase is. “Quality people don’t grow on trees”.

    Quality people don’t just magically appear ready to do the bidding of the super rich.

    Quality people need to nurtured.

    Quality people need to educated, fed, clothed, housed, entertained, protected from abuse when they work, cared for when their sick , and cared for when their old.

    • Osamas Pajamas

      Quality people are in fact “self-made” — as they enter adulthood they are free to accept of reject the culture in which they were raised and the philosophy with which their parents, peers, and teachers had hoped to inculcate. A high-jacker culture based on ripping-off the rich will not lead to the creation of “quality people” — it’ll just promote a culture of sniffy and snotty stick-fingered skunks with a case of the gimmes — gimme this, gimme that, gimme this, gimme that — clothed in a lot of fake moralistic junk. As for this “privilege” of doing business with “the people,” the nature of economic transactions dictates that both parties gain from the transaction — or the transaction does not take place. Mick, get a life, don’t be a sniffy snot.

    • John S

      OK right out the gate line one. Use of the term fortuneate implies that becoming a billionaire just happened. I can assure you Steve Jobs and others were extremely talented and had a unique set of gifts and drive. They didn’t sit on their couch typing on a message board and create what they created. I’d bet in two to three generations all his wealth will be gone. Even posterity has to work hard, and smart. And contrary to what Obama’s speach said I know very few people who are smart and work hard who don’t have a good income. Just doesn’t happen. The rich pay QUALITY people very well to work for them. Quality people aren’t taken advantage of.

      I think your comment is the perfect example of the differences between conservatives and progressives. All of your examples are something that the family or the individual can and should do. They are all perfect examples of what government can’t do. Even education is largely the result of family not government. After all a teacher can not do the students homework. Taxes are paid to hire the teachers. Teachers don’t just do it for free. They have wonderful pay, time off, and good pensions which are worth another $20,000 a year. Labor unions rose up to protect the workers. It was the workers that demanded protection not the government. Governments do help enforce labor protection laws I agree with that. But this cost very little. Governments should not be feeding, clothing, and changing our diapers. You even throw in entertaining. So the government should provide cable, movies, etc…

      Work is what provides those things in the end not government. Am I not a self made carpenter. I had to seek out the knowledge, listen, practice. Did someone provide the training. Yes. But were paid to. They worked to do so. Whatever you are you are self made. If I’m a janitor I’m self made. I’m the one choosing to be a carpender. Now if I’m living in a communist country than your points might be valid. But this is the USA. We are to be FREE to choose what kind of life we want. We have laws to protect us. Government executes those laws. We pay taxes to fund this. But the government should not be MAKING us. We should all be self made.

      Taxes are not what I pay for the privledge of doing business with other people. This is not the USSR. Taxes are what my representatives say I have to pay or go to jail so that they can fund said services. Those services of course are hotly debated. But I don’t pay taxes so that government can say who and who I can’t do business with. That is facism.

      We need to be very careful that we do not pass so many laws that we end up without any freedom of choice any longer. Right now if your middle class you pay taxes of about 30 – 50% depending where you live. If we were paying taxes to fund the current deficits in this country they’d be even higher. When taxes approach 80% we will have very little freedom to be self made as the government will be making all of our choices. We don’t need the government to make quality people. Are we not a quality people. I would argue that if we need government to make quality people than we are infact a bankrupt useless people.

      Current deficits are enslaving our children and its wrong. The Federal government needs to be dramatically reduced or it will cease to exist at all. I’m not antigovernment but we need to govern ourselves as much as possible instead of looking to the government to do that which we can and should do for ourselves. We should even provide charity ourselves which is what bonds man to man. Outsourcing it to the government is not only inefficient and corrupt it is mechanical and creates dependency and animosity instead of togetherness. Charity should be free given and I believe it would be.

      • Demi Adex

        Well said John. I would have refrained from commenting if I have read your comment earlier. May God give most American youth the kind of wisdom and insight that you have. Please kindly help educate young people in your area before they finally mortgage their future for government handouts.
        God bless you

      • MICK DANIEL

        John S: The rich pay QUALITY people very well to work for them. Quality people aren’t taken advantage of.

        Mick Daniel: Sure, and we don’t live in a body-consuming biosphere divided by a primal conflict between predator and prey.

        John S: Taxes are paid to hire the teachers. Teachers don’t just do it for free. They have wonderful pay, time off, and good pensions which are worth another $20,000 a year.

        MICK DANIEL: Exactly, if those who do business with the people pay for the privilege of doing business with the people, then the teachers are paid a salary. Thanks for making my point.

        John S: Am I not a self made carpenter?

        MICK DANIEL: Do you exist in a vacuum?

        John S: We pay taxes to fund this. But the government should not be MAKING us. We should all be self made.

        MICK DANIEL: Right we pay taxes to pay for the privilege of doing business with the people. If we don’t pay for the privilege of doing business with the people, then the privilege can be taken away. You have the right to self-determination, but you are not “self-made”. At the very least, the idea of being “self-made” is an insult to your mother and your father, and an insult to the many friends whose support you enjoy.

        JOHN S: Taxes are not what I pay for the privledge of doing business with other people. This is not the USSR. Taxes are what my representatives say I have to pay or go to jail so that they can fund said services. Those services of course are hotly debated. But I don’t pay taxes so that government can say who and who I can’t do business with. That is facism.

        MICK DANIEL: If you don’t pay your taxes, then you don’t get to do business with anybody. If you pay your taxes, then you can do business with whomever you’d like in whatever capacity you see fit.

        JOHNS: We need to be very careful that we do not pass so many laws that we end up without any freedom of choice any longer.

        MICK DANIEL: The real danger to you and your family is the concentration of wealth into the hands of a mercenary, plutocratic, predatory few.

        Search the history of the global culture and examine the result.

        You may find that the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few has a tendency to cause the competition to be a member of the ruling class to become homocidal, fratricidal, sorocidal, matricidal, patricial, regicidal, genocide and even suicidal at times.

        In response the ruling class becomes paranoid, oppressive and violent.

        JOHN S: We don’t need the government to make quality people. Are we not a quality people? I would argue that if we need government to make quality people than we are infact a bankrupt useless people.

        MICK DANIEL: Quality people don’t grow on trees.

        JOHN S: Current deficits are enslaving our children and its wrong.

        MICK DANIEL: Yes it is wrong.

        As long as the vast majority of our elected officials are in the business of selling their influence over government to the rich, you will most likely never pay off the debt.

        Why?

        The U.S. borrows money by selling bonds. So the end of debt would mean the end of Treasury bonds.

        But the U.S. has been issuing bonds for so long, and the bonds are seen as so safe, that much of the world has come to depend on them. The U.S. Treasury bond is a pillar of the global economy.

        Banks buy hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth, because they’re a safe place to park money.

        Year after year you get less and less for the taxes you pay because more and more of those taxes go towards paying massive interest payments on an even more massive national debt.

        Now we are being told we have to give up our Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

        The unspoken reason is:

        We American people have got to keep paying those massive interest payments on an even more massive national debt so that banks have a safe place to park their money.

        JOHN S: The Federal government needs to be dramatically reduced or it will cease to exist at all.

        MICK DANIEL: The share holders of the private banks own over ten trillion dollars of our massive national debt and have no intention of allowing their instrument of fiscal enslavement, that is our government, to go out of business.

        On the contrary, as long as the rich have anything to say about it, you will spend the rest of your lives attempting to pay off our massive national debt.

        JOHN S: I’m not antigovernment but we need to govern ourselves as much as possible instead of looking to the government to do that which we can and should do for ourselves. We should even provide charity ourselves which is what bonds man to man. Outsourcing it to the government is not only inefficient and corrupt it is mechanical and creates dependency and animosity instead of togetherness. Charity should be free given and I believe it would be.

        MICK DANIEL: Think of all of the czars, and emporers and kings that claimed for themselves a divine right to rule and compelled their subjects upon pain of death to the convert to the religon favored by their ruler.

        They represent the empowerment of an ancient alliance between the ruling class and the clergy.

        For 10,000 years an alliance between the ruling class and the clergy has used the lie that a myth is a truth to enslave communities of faithful believer to the will of the ruling class.

        With promises of divine eternal bliss in Heaven and threats of abominable infernal suffering in Hell, the clergy extort tithes and offerings from communities of faithful believers in exchange for a life long indoctrination in the lie that a myth is a truth and lead the communities of faithful believers they influence to believe that the will of the ruling class is in fact the will of a good one in Heaven.

        Institutions of spiritual slavery enable the ruling class to raise great armies from amongst communities of faithful believers and order those great armies to march off to their deaths if need be.

        Ask yourself.

        Is that the type of government I want?

  • John S

    Anyone who thinks his position is hypocritical simply can’t think for themselves. As a libertarian leaning christian I can completely see where Ryan is coming from. I agree with free markets and the individual as the basis for society, versus say power to groups, however I also believe in my christian values of charity. I just don’t think the government should be our Nanny from craddle to grave. You can pick and choose. You can like parts of what Rand had to say but dislike others.

    • http://yahoo DaRrEn

      One day, I promise you, that you too will eschew the central theme of Ayn Rand’s political, individualistic ideology. Most Americans are “fat and happy” right now, having very little need for gov’t assistance. In that state, Its hard to empathize with the needy or understand what it means to struggle. Thus, as the bible prophesied, the hearts of men have grown cold, and men are calling that which is evil, good, but a fall is inevitable, at which point, the masses will seek help, but find none. Lets then see how right Ayn Rand (who’s currently burning in hell) was. Its coming, trust me.

  • Osamas Pajamas

    Paul Ryan may eschew atheism — and still find the Randian critique of statism and dictatorship highly useful. Her defense of free men and free markets [we the people = we the market] is the best in print, and that her novels portray characters engaged in moral commerce is all the more disgusting to thieving Democrats. The fact that OhBummer has several times and publicy denounced Ayn Rand’s novels and other books suggests to me that OhBummer wants you to go out right now to buy and read one or two of them. ~:<)

    • Conservatives Defeated

      Ayn Rand was a fascist. The only thieving that has been going on is by the coporatocracy and its hand maidens in the Republican party, “We the People” does not equal “We The Market” anymore than a corporation is a person as per Citizens United. So called “objectivists” crack me up as their appeals are never to reaon but to unquestioning worship of that moral defective, Ayn Rand

  • noapologieshere

    a politician with his hands in his own pockets?
    now that’s a first!
    jeff bridges in “tucker”
    let the hypocrasy continue. and ryan is already slimy.
    in less than a week!

  • hank

    if this guy grows a beard, he would look like an arab.

  • Cheryl

    Christ’s last words were, “It is finished,” regarding his role as the Sacrificial Lamb. This philosophical breakthrough to the concept of a completed sacrifice became the political basis of non-sacrifice, i.e. trading, or capitalism.

    POLITICS IS RELIGION. A country’s religious base of nonsacrifice determines its political base of nonsacrifice.

    Western tradition regarding sacrifice began with Cain. He killed his brother Abel and when God asked, “where is your brother Abel?” Cain replied, “am I my brother’s keeper?” But the quiestion “where’s Abel?” wasn’t a question of altruism, it was a quesiton of sacrifice.

    Rand wrote of the concept of nonsacrifice from a secular point of view. What a virtuous person to leave us works which expand on the concept of nonsacrifice in detail.

  • haha

    Its funny their calling him a fiscal conservative, when he tried to push a plan granting the rich 4 trillion in tax breaks. Very fiscally conservative.

    • David

      4 trillion dollars? This is common knowledge right? With absolute facts behind it?

  • Demi Adex

    I am not an American and I do not live in the US. However, it is common knowledge that what happens in the US affects Canada where I live and the world as a whole given America’s pivotal place in global politics and economics. That said, I do not quite understand the thinking of an average American. Does it make sense for the government to keep borrowing money that it does not have in order to keep dishing handouts to Americans? Whatever happens to the can do, never say never, pioneering and hardworking spirit of the Americans? How much does the government pay in interest yearly on its massive debts?
    Personally, I think President Obama is the most polarizing president in America’s recent history and his politicking leaves nothing much to be desired. He has succeeded in turning Americans against each other. The US has gradually turned into a nation of homosexual versus heterosexual, wealthy versus the poor, whites versus colored, absolutely insane! The economy, high unemployment and the emasculating debt burden of the United States has been relegated to the background and with the aforementioned silly sentiments elevated as the front burner. Whatever American decides come November, one thing is certain, they will bear the brunt.

    • j Ray

      Excellent comment!

    • jay thomas

      Well said. Misguided. You repeat, verbaatim, the Republican stance but fail to acknowledge their other stellar achievements, such as the Iraq war. this war was contrived and executed at the expense of thousands of dead men and women of the US armed forces, hundreds of thousands of disabled veterans, trillions of dollars in war expense, just so the “romney’s and Paul’s” can continue the game. We have many more concerns than homophobic Canadians, and I believe you are out of touch with the average Canadian. They’re smarter than that.

      • David

        Your statement about the war has absolutely nothing to do with what the Canadian said! Nice rebuttal, very logical argument!

      • Vince Bert

        Ron Paul would return the military to the USA 15 minutes after he was elected. Too bad this great man cannot garner the confidence of the sheeple and our subversive Republocrat system. Truth be known they are very, very afraid of him. He would decimate their game playing, perks, earmarks and use the veto regularly.
        And yes, I knew you were talking about Ryan!
        Vincent Bert Commentary

    • Davantage

      Obama is actually trying to copy the Canadian model.
      National health care for one – Based on your theory.
      Cananda should not even have national health care nor gay marriage – Maybe that’s what you want to happen?

      Back to self pay medical?

      Can you clarify in what situation has Canada has followed the US?
      Especially give me cases where Obama took office.

      Thanks.

    • Conservatives Defeated

      @Demi Adex:

      One assumes you belong to the conservatie party in Canada by the absurd statements you make. Ony demented conservatives would state the following:

      “He has succeeded in turning Americans against each other. The US has gradually turned into a nation of homosexual versus heterosexual, wealthy versus the poor, whites versus colored, absolutely insane”

      By the way we refer to Black people as Black not “colored” How did President Obama do this? In fact it is the extremist far right, the lunatic fringe who have been destroying America since Reagan who WANT rveryone at war with each other as it serves their purpose to unite the elderly resentful white conservatives against the “other” President, as they see him. The racist trash about Obama being born in Kenya and the law suits, the Birthers are all part of the demented racist right who seek to sow discord in America. I guarabtee you they will fail and President Obama will be re-elected. Conservatism is a mental disease.

  • jay thomas

    Ayn Rand was a hypocrite. While espousing individualism and the much ballyhooed “pulling of boot straps” dogma, Ayn Rand pushed her “beliefs” aside and collected Social Security payments just like every other person who paid into the system, as did Paul Ryan from age 16 to 18 after his father’s death. Paul Ryan came from a family of means, his father a well connected lawyer and Paul Ryan’s connections and access to the cache of money from the family contruction business. “Do as I say, not as I do” should be his mantra.

    • not a hypocrite

      She contributed to the system. Her beliefs are that people should not be forced to contribute. she never said that people who contribute should not collect what they are owed, she said the government should nto compel people. It is like calling a kidnapped victim a hypocrite for accepting food from their captor.

  • Vince Bert

    Ayn Rand shook the status quo with her masterpiece Atlas Shrugged. The concept is correct the way the story unfolded. The lazy and malcontents and non-producers wanted much of what the producers struggled and worked diligently for. Because of these nefarious subversives the producers went elsewhere away from these communists”. Remember, the producers created innovative products that benefited all. The non-producers would rather suck the life blood from the producers (which is going on in AmeriKa today) than join the ranks of those who create a better life through superior products. Christianity is compatable with this philosophy. Christianity is not compatable with subversives and communists. Paul Ryan should have stuck to his guns.
    Vincent Bert Commentary.com

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