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  1. As a web designer and average SEO, I would welcome a bit more equality in the search. Google seems to want a slice out of everyone else’s pie, but won’t share any of its own.

    Facebook is in a pretty powerful position with the alleged membership levels it has and therefore could bring changes or ‘tweak user behaviour’ to get it to use its search function – and why not?

    Search – whether by Google, Bing, Yahoo or anyone else for that matter – is about delivering the information people want as quickly as possible. Although people may ‘favour’ Google at the moment, there’s no reason why that can’t change.

    And I could see it easier for Facebook to go search than for Google to go social, because people will switch a search provider easier than they will switch the way they stay in touch with friends and family and chat etc. It’s going to take some huge persuading on Google’s part to convince people their social network is better.

    We shall watch the story unfold, but it will surprise me if ‘Google Me’ succeeds.

    • Chris Crum

      It’s going to be a very interesting year watching these two battle it out. I think we’ve barely seen the beginning of what Facebook has in store.

  2. I think Google does a great job at what it does and so does Facebook. However, I doubt that Facebook would be successful as a search engine.

    • Chris Crum

      It certainly would have its work cut out for it, but it doesn’t have to have Google’s market share to be considered successful, and I think it has the potential to be pretty useful.

  3. Facebook is not meant for Search
    and Google is not meant for Social media.

    They will both fail, if they even try. It’s not about money or resources, it’s about total dedication, understanding the philosophy of the enterprise and having the right frame of mind. Microsoft is a prime example of what I’m saying. Fox-controlled mySpace is another.

    • Chris Crum

      You may be right, but I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss either.

    • Guest

      What’s a MySpace? Isn’t that kinda like a Justin Bieber?

  4. I really don’t think google will have anything to worry about, even if Facebook goes search. Simply because most links that are posted on facebook walls are obtained from a google search in the first place.

  5. Guest

    “dome of them better. Facebook is not there yet, but it hasn’t been around that long yet eiher,”

    If only one would make a cross-website spell checker, eh?

    • Chris Crum

      If only spell checkers could keep up with all the words and names that come along with writing for this industry where you could write an article and not have 80 red lines for legitimate words, it would be a lot harder to overlook the mistakes.

  6. I can only make a comparison between mac or pc seeing that both giants are considered an end all be all.

    People had a really easy time making a switch from PC to Mac, mainly because it truly was just better, I think both Facebook and Google in a broad sense are comparable to a PC in terms of shine, but certainly not lovability.

    Seeing how both platforms educate, or allow users to customize their experience will play a big role in how the public perceives both. Facebook could very well move into search and Google into social, but I think currently the public is educated to recognize the two distinctly different interfaces as two entirely different services, so no matter how good they might become under the hood, how the interface is presented will decide how they perceived.

    Perhaps Facebook turning into search and Google turning into social will cause both platforms to resemble each other, or perhaps they will become vastly different from each other, moving even further away from each other in terms of service diversity.

    just ranting…

  7. Eric Crizer

    I would love to have everything on face book “for Free: of coarse that would show those other guy’s a thing or too!

  8. Long live social networking! Facebook best!

  9. Ok, FB has near half a billion users but for this essay I will use my personal experience. I got 56 friends with about a third logging around once a year and another third daily, I belong to the latter, otherwise I wouldn’t know ^-^.
    Can FB be successful at advertising? Definitely. I like psychology (e.g.: http://www.scientificamerican.com/mind-and-brain ) and likely to mark their article as like. My friend will see and might give it a try. Ok it’s a slow process but FB can also match people with same interest and suggest this site to any like-minded FB user, or sale the suggestion.
    So ad-sense is jut around the corner.
    Another example: People getting married or engaged could be easily targeted. More and more business have a FB presence and for better or worse, what happens within FB stays within FB.
    A third example to highlight the previous point: FB shows Youtube without sending the user on you-tube site.

    Where FB has to be careful is not to bombard user with adverts. They should remember that both FB and Google were successful because they kept their proposition simple and uncluttered (compared to bibo or Myspace)

    But knowing Google I know they will stay ahead for a foreseeable future and might even hold on until a new kid arrives and threatens FB.

  10. Despite all of the marketing hype about the “Google Slap” and the recent big publicity of Facebook, when you do the research, Google continues to be the #1 site in existence, year after year outperforming everyone else.

    I’ll let everyone in on a little secret. Do you know why a lot of internet marketers pushed to use Facebook instead of Google? No one can exactly pin point the time, however I found that there were two major things happening at the same time, that I strongly believed contributed to what I call “The Great Facebook Migration” – and it is in part responsible for the major moves Facebook has been making to capitalize on it.

    Back in 2007-2008, the Federal gov’t started cracking down on credit card companies for what they called practices unfair to consumers, but it didn’t stop at things like credit card rates.

    Credit card companies cracked down in what we now know is the Wallet Pop. There was a major backlash in the business world that wasn’t talked about. The focus, because of the economy, was on the banks.

    What we didn’t see was that the banks passed the buck to the business for their practices, and the credit card companies began to hold companies responsible for their bad practices. When they did their research, only a small percentage, (I believe it was around 6 or 7 percent), of their profits came from re-billing, but the highest chargebacks (around the 90 percent range) was also from re-billing.

    They really changed up the game and changed the rules. Whole Internet-based models were suddenly illegal on the back end and people were going out of business – mostly internet marketers and home-based businesses that bought into using models that had continuity-based subscriptions on the back end.

    The credit card companies focused mostly on large corporations which didn’t trickle down for a while. Then Google took the initiative and started cracking down on Adwords, etc. for sites that was now illegal, and they changed up the policy to exclude certain types of ad practices as well.

    Remember Google’s focus at the time was to improve quality of search results and the crackdown gave them the perfect opportunity to capitalize on what was going on and to not just stay, but dominate the market share. If you do the market research and look back at the history, the number match up.

    The irony is that if a lot of people actually read the policy notices they would have know what to do to avoid it, but of course many of them don’t, and suddenly a lot of Internet marketers found it much more difficult to do their campaigns and many went out of business.

    They went to the one place that allowed them to continue doing what they were doing and that gave birth to the Google slap and the big rush to Facebook. We’ve all seen the hype about how Facebook is now how Google was back then and so on.

    The brains behind Facebook capitalized on this sudden change and then came the great Facebook advertising rush. On every profile the ads came up “Advertise on Facebook” and then they started improving on everything business and marketing related from changes in ad templates to groups.

    Take a look at the demographics for Facebook’s and Google’s traffic. First, a very large portion of Facebook’s traffic comes from search engines.

    If Facebook wants to compete, they need to do more than just say “Gmail isn’t a real product” because quite frankly, it is, and a darned good one, but even more than that, Google already is everywhere from desktop computers to phones, apps, 75% of the search engine share, and with the new partnering series, they’ve acquired, Google will be in your home through television – Google TV is already in Beta.

    On top of that, according to the latest Alexa.com studies, the time spent in a typical visit to Facebook is roughly 32 minutes, with 34 seconds spent on each pageview, vs Google’s hours, with several minutes per pageview.

    Studies also show that Google is more popular among the widest range of internet users across all demographics, where as Facebook leans more towards, (according to Alexa.com), “disproportionately women under the age of 45.”

    If you do the same research on Quantcast.com, the numbers back up Alexa.com.

    Facebook goes search? They can try but it’s not going to work unless they have some major, major changes.

    They would first have to improve their public standing across all demographics first and foremost. There is no question, no two ways about it, and no way around it. Facebook right now is not friendly to a lot of the demographics.

    The bad news is that Facebook, while their attention and traffic is rising, is not making any changes to address those issues. And as of right now, Facebook continues to have lower customer satisfaction and privacy issues.

    The upside though is that, considering women are a huge lion’s share of buyers, Facebook does tend to favor that demographic. That’s good news for advertisers to target that demographic.

    You also can’t ever eliminate Google as a viable solution. A lot of internet marketers will continue to push for the Facebook switch and most will talk bad about Google, however, in spite of all of the Facebook is #1 talk, Google continues to dominate as king of the hill in the #1 spot year after year.

    Facebook has a very tough climb if they are to effectively compete with Google, or, instead of changing their game to compete, they can do what Myspace did and stay in their demographic and dominate. Good luck to any other social site trying to get a growing share of entertainment to compete with them.

    I think Facebook is shooting themselves in the foot. The more they are trying to do, the more alienated consumers are becoming. If I could sit down and tell Facebook execs where their strengths are, I would say to capitalize on their foothold on social network.

    Their strength has always been the direct reach to consumers on a personal level and that’s what they need to capitalize on because their social nature is what made their success to begin with.

    If anyone is interested in the demographics and research, I’ll be glad to send them a copy of the report along with a free market analysis of your own product or service. Just visit, http://blog.techdex.net

    Dexter
    TechDex Development & Solutions

  11. Kinda makes you wonder if Facebook is already secretly crawling and indexing the web. Might be a good time to look a little closer at those logs if and when any IP’s are hitting more than normal…. Just maybe…

  12. Guest

    I hope FaceBook does search and compete against google.. Google needs to be cut down, they are working with the government about monitoring the internet, and of course google is wanting to help the government so the two can monitor and control everything we do on the web just like china does. A very bad combination. Google has great stuff, but now they want power and control to secure there position just like the government wants more power and control. I think Im feeling ill.

    • And you don’t think FB will collaborate with any government?
      Any successful company attracts gvt interest once they are big enough.

      Tesco’s shopping habit (loyalty card), borrowing patterns at libraries and so on… I don’t think any is whiter than the other and there is nothing they can do either. so live with it.

      By the way, loads of countries are worried by FB, and not just the usual suspect (Russia, China), as they think it’s the CIA trying to map them so to manipulate them better.

  13. You Know Me

    If FB does compete with G for ads then maybe Google will stop treating their partners like total crap.

    Google is lowering Adsense payouts and domain parking payouts. On top of that they are imposing all kinds of hurdles and restrictions on our traffic and clicks in a guise for them to keep more of our publisher dollars. Why do we get less and less and their earnings keep going up and up? Internet advertising is 15% higher than last year, but I and everyone I know is making about 30% less on our ad clicks from Google. Honestly, I have already started going direct and cutting out Google. If Google had played fair this would have never happened and I would still be showing more Google Adsense ads. Bye Google !!!

    I hope Google gets what’s coming to them, damn bastards. I literally hate them now with burning passion.

    • Don’t buy into the Internet Marketing hype. Any advertising service and campaign managers have restrictions. If you don’t play by the rules you get shut down. It’s easy to target Google because well? they’re Google.

      If you really were playing by Google’s terms you’d save a lot of time and money. Google’s rewards are set up so that it saves you money, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU”RE DOING. Most of my campaigns have switched to PPA (Pay Per Action) instead of PPC.

      It automatically happens when you reach a certain number of traffic, then Google meets you half way and says ok, you’ve done great with this, so let’s save you some money. Now? you only pay when there’s an action (sign up, purchase, etc.).

      The only changes that Google made was to help the credit card companies weed out bad advertisers who had illegal set ups on the back end. If you ran a legit business? Those changes would never affect you.

      If you’re having that many problems, I would highly take a look at your business model and see why you’re getting so much trouble with it.

  14. Facebooks’ capacity of socializing the entire world wide web and also stepping forward as a marketing platform. Google had been ranking 10the no.1 search engine for so many years where Facebook is also no.1 social network. If someone has to do what the other does then it’ll be chaos..

    This sounds crap.. Facebook + Search = FaceOogle
    Google + Social = GoogFace

    not funny right..

  15. chen

    I have no doubt that Facebook will get into search sooner that some might think and will dethrone Google on search. Just imagine a search box on FB’s home page with a “Search The Web Here” box. It would be devastating for Google. It is a mistake to think all those people on Facebook think like us, web programmers, designers, etc. Most of those people wouldn’t recognize a t-bone about what a browser is let alone being loyal to some Google engine. They will only use that search box from then on ’til the day they die as it is on their favorite site. For most people, Facebook is the internet. Of course, FB will have to make sure to return relevant results. Anyway, just on the news alone, Google’s stock would tank.

  16. I think that this would blur the lines. I could be wrong but I think both have a unique place.

  17. Great article, very informative.
    One of the things I am beginning to find annoying about Google is that there is getting to be too much clutter. I use google to search for stuff. Now I have maps all down one side of the page and what I get in search is often different from what it used to be before. If their ‘social’ efforts are also going to clog up the page then I will probably look elsewhere.
    Only problem is that Bings results are odd in comparison and often don’t really give me what I want. Maybe I need to learn how to use Bing.
    If Facebook introduce a search function that is easy to use and the results are clear and uncluttered then maybe I would use such a service.
    I don’t believe that Google will continue to hold the marketshare in search that it does for too much longer.
    Look at what happened to MySpace when Facebook arrived.
    I know Google does research and wants to provide what people want but can it be everything to everyone?

  18. Guest

    As a web developer and part of a large corporation, and into communications, I would immediatly throw my computer and every server and computer in the building into the nearest dumpsters and quit if Facebook goes any further. I, for one, like most web developers I know, and as well many respectable corporations and businesses block Facebook on their internal networks anyways – reason is, employees would be on it all the time and do nothing else. We already see how it has turned people into addicted idiots with no life and “socializing’ in cyberspace rather than the real thing. Now to add search? Everything will soon be @ Facebook. We already see some companies advertisiong their company as www.facebook.com/companyname !! Talk about losing ones identy, now we are losing the corporate identy to Facebook.

    Yes, 500 million people CAN be wrong.

  19. Guest

    The reason why facebook became popular was because it was a clean looking, no nonsense interface to socialize. Myspace was great, and there were others far superior as well long before Facebook, but they had too much. Now, we see Facebook adding and adding…soon people will get sick of it like many others. There are already people I know who gave it up. Too many false friends, too many contacts, too much of everything.

  20. It is just me that thinks the internet world is big enough for both Facebook and Google as they offer two completely different services. You go to google to find what you are looking for, you go to Facebook to catch up with your friends, not be given a load of information based on your social graph (although you get this without a choice now).

    I use both services a lot and for completely different things. If I were at either company I would be pushing for them to perfect the services they currently (which at times are quite flawed – privacy anyone?!) offer rather than trying to compete with each other. This would make the internet a lot better as a whole!

  21. Great article, very informative. One of the things I am beginning to find annoying about Google is that there is getting to be too much clutter.

  22. Guest

    I don;t know enough to comment. I prefer for them to stay- as is. This appears to be greedy on Googles part.

  23. Guest

    I’m pretty sure Facebook will be the next search engine. Google has gotten way too greedy to the point it is starting to become useless (search is a joke) and annoying (constant message reminding you to link your google accounts). Every time I go to youtube I see that annoying message to link accounts. That other account ain’t mine stupid! That’s my brother’s damn it! Quit being so annoying!

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