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  1. The one important thing is: hard work, and all search engines will award you and respect you.

    • Where did you get that one from? Hard work isn’t enough, the work has to be good and the Panda algorithm is judging whose work is good and whose isn’t.

      Unfortunately it has judged my work as poor so I will have to go out and get a job. My site started as a hobby so it will have to go back to being a hobby whilst I do some menial task to earn enough to pay the bills.

      What I want to know was why this had to happen when employment prospects are so bad. Talk about getting kicked when you are down!

      • I think the most frustrating part for me regarding the Google changes this year is that our 14 year old ecommerce site, all white hat, no paid links etc…has been hit very hard.

        I utilize webmaster tools and there are no warnings, our site loads fast according to their tools and our testing, last year we began converting over to style sheets from basic html to clean it up, site architecture has not changed, we added some technical articles at the beginning of the year. Yet for some reason google thinks that amazon affiliates, amazon and made for adsense pages with scraped content should out rank us for automotive parts…. since when did amazon become an authority site for auto parts… seriously?? I can understand Summit and Jegs, but amazon and affiliate sites.

        I’ve consulted with some people and have been told that possibly some of our product pages are thin on content.. I can understand that, but just how much information can you give on a set of lug nuts and such.

        We’ve also been told that maybe we need to move some of the major “good” pages to a sub-domain as a way to separate the good from the “not-so-good” pages.

        Not really sure what to do at this point, but losing over 50% of traffic is pretty tragic. I added our site to their list in their forum, but we continued to lose traffic. I recently did a re-inclusion request in hopes that Google would respond and maybe give me a clue as to what their issue is with the site. That was over a month ago and I’ve gotten no response.

        • BLM

          I wouldn’t hold your breath on getting a response from Google! Before the changes, were your visitors from Google coming in on a wide range of search terms (i.e. product related or product category related) or more general auto part related terms? Looking at your site I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong but I would agree the content is a little thin – do take your point about lug nuts etc! It’s not easy I know. How much control do you have over the page layouts etc? Are you able to tweak the code or is it locked inside an admin system?

          • Google cares little about what happens to peoples personal websites. It will take much more than an automatic algorithm to determine if a site is “quality” or not

  2. All good points – but loving the top image of ‘Rodney Dangerfield’ game – no respect. Nostalgic blast from the past – Where the hell did you dig that out from ?

    • Image credit at the bottom of the article.

  3. All good points if they are correct. There are a lot of people voicing opinions about Google and Panda but which are the right ones . . . if any? Google hasn’t given any specifics.

    Only recently so-called experts were saying that sites were getting downgraded because they were showing too many ads above the fold. This advice had to be wrong as evidenced by Google saying “it is testing algorithms that look more at this factor above the fold”. Testing but not using.

    So all the advice given out on the Google forums by the so-called experts who continually post there is obviously misguided.

    The best advice is to go out and get a proper job and forget about your website. If your site has been hit by Panda this is it.

    • I don’t know if giving up on your site is the best advice. In terms of good info, people would do well to pay attention to what Google actually says. We do our best to point to this stuff in our coverage. The webmaster guidelines and that list of questions referenced in the article would be a good start.

      • I have spoken to Google employees who told me to my face my site was good and followed their acceptable practices.

        Did they lie to me?

        I will never give up my site (its part of my life after over 11 years) but it will have to become part-time. You have to earn to live.

        • I don’t know who you talked to or what they told you, so who knows….

          but yes, you do have to earn to live.

  4. Very well put. In my experience, by respecting Google’s continuous attempts to improve the user experience and by working hard, a Web site will be respected.

  5. Have just slipped from a ranking of 4 to 3, and then – horror of horrors – to 2!!! My fault, I have to admit. As an author, with a new novel underway, I haven’t been giving the blog the attention it needs to survive, let alone thrive. A little TLC is required, me thinks.

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    • You raise another good point. This stuff takes time and resources.

  6. Great Article! Very informative. I really love reading your articles. Keep up the good work!

  7. What parameters would you use to determine “respect”. We are a small company and get about 15 Google organic clicks per day. The conversion rate is sporadic but there are weeks when we can’t handle all of the request.

    • I would say ranking where you should be ranking.

  8. Very helpful, as always. Appreciated, too!

  9. As I read the comments below, I’m hoping you will take a look at my website, because I slipped from a 3 to a 2, when I was expecting a 4 on my 4th year of being in business. Panda Update did take its toll on my website. Thank you in advance.

  10. Google is incompetent at what it does. We know for a fact that if we put adsense on our site its rankings go up dramatically. We also know that they love fake shill sites. Case in point. There are only two real law dictionaries that are sold in the U.S. Neither one of them has ever placed anywhere near the top in any category related to law dictionaries and yet every obsolete fake shill ad sense dictionary site that gives 150 year old legal definitions or has a free web law dictionary of a few words place in the top all the time because they generate ad sense revenue and spend good amounts of money to acquire links to their site.

    Google reminds us of AOL. It is desperate to get out of its core business and into something different. AOL was the darling and #1 for a long time but now it is just about dead despite moving out of its core business to purchasing media assets. Google is on the same path. It is just a matter of time.

    • Very interesting Paul, but is there a better search engine than Google?

  11. Since other companies “compete” against Google Search, why doesn’t somebody else compete with Google page ranking? Is there any other page ranking big boy out there we don’t know about? – heck even the credit stiffs who rate you have three agencies.

    • Blekko is trying to compete with the human edited search, though I don’t know how far that’s going to go. It’s interesting that Bing is even incorporating some human edited stuff now with its “Editors’ Reviews”

  12. Robert

    I’ve spoken to dozens of web developers after Google shutdown our Adsense account only to find that Google is completely bankrupt where any form of customer service is concerned. Serious webmasters using their adsense do not intentionally do anything to jeopardize their adsense accounts or earnings. Yet Google’s gestopo tactics of shutting down accounts and taking whatever earnings you accumulated over what they deem as abuse of their systems rather than assisting us in knowing what was done incorrectly is for lack of a better term completely ignorant!

    • I know they keep talking about how they’re trying to be more transparent and communicative with webmasters. Not sure how far this will extend.

  13. You make some good points Chris. Although I keep hearing about this Google Panda, I confess I have no idea what it is or what it does. My only concern is to provide quality, useful and relevant content for my readers.

    I think I got Google’s respect so far, but unfortunately, backlinks are as important for ranking well, and my time is limited. As for your site showing up on top for a recent event, here’s a tip for your readers: Press Releases (they will appear on Google News if done right). ;)

  14. I think money talks and everything else walks. JP.

  15. Amazing article it is very essential question. Is google giving your site respect? Means value because google is world number one search engine. It is important to make your site google and user friendly to get top rank on SEO targeted keyword, quality content, and powerful backlink helps you raise your site rank.

  16. I do hope that Google tweaks their “recency” algorithm to take into consideration that there exists much content (as with my site) that contains information that is composed of factual knowledge which is never changing and therefore is never “newly” posted … like the Google algorithm low ranking The Bible because it’s content is not recent or recently updated.

    • moonlight

      Just goes to show you how much BS the ranking system is. The Bible doesn’t need updated. It’s as current now as it was during the days it was written. Funny how those ancient prophesies written thousands of years ago are coming to fruition right now today. Just boggles the mind.

  17. Chris, you are ranked #1 for Google Panda Update, and Webpronews has more pages on page one and two.

    Okay, That term only pulls in 1/7th the amount of quality traffic as Google Panda(Exact—LMS).

    I have to admit I have complained about Goggle’s ranking of my site, then I kicked my self in the foot and said to myself ” Stop Blaming Google, your competition or anything else”! “Get off your butt and get back to cleaning up your site, and doing what is required to get a decent Ranking”!

    And Chris, it actually works!

    My site is average compared to most, though in recent times I allowed the ranking to slide(and also lost a number of links).

    Then after getting back to writing, editing, promoting, Some basic SEO Techniques, the ranking has jumped up quite a lot and is continuing to do so(It has a long way to go to catch up on the lost ground).

    Also, a few pages are up near the top in Google search(First and second page) for both average quality and high quality keywords.
    I still have other site issues(Widgets not working properly) that will also cause Ranking issues, and must be sorted out, also.

    Though, If I did not kick myself and snap into action, the site(And those high performing pages) would have soon vanished to the bottom of the rankings.

    Yes, we can sometimes get frustrated with Google’s 500 per year Algorithm changes, though the best way to adjust for them is to keep improving your site.

    Read Chris’s advice, people.

    There are some very simple truths that we can learn from this article of his.

  18. Thanks for the article. I’m scratching my head constantly with how to improve rank. I have to believe that if I continue to provide content that is valuable to consumers of my services, Google’s algorithms will eventually recognize and give my site RESPECT. I have a little respect from Google in my tiny market, but I getting beat by those who are gaming the algorithms. I have to believe that the gamed content is not as valuable and will eventually be pushed down. All this effort is for nothing if I don’t believe that on a daily basis.

  19. Hi,
    As I asked before in a previous topic really similar to this one. How is it is possible to survive Panda when we have a classifieds site? Ok, I got all your points and start to applies them to my sites BUT, for my classifieds site it’s to me, Mission Impossible. Does there any trick or things to do? Because a classifieds site at one point can be viewed as a duplicate farm because people always post the same ad form one site to another even they aren’t spammers, they’re just lazy (we all are at some point).
    Any tips, I’m all ears.

  20. Article is good and use full. I also totally belive on Google webmaster guidline and following the instruction as they have mentioned. but last few months I am also facing issue Search Engine ranking. My site was working good and fine but suddenly get off from Google. I have double checked with the Google guideline but still not back. Please help me if you have any suggestion regarding dress4less dot com to recover back in Google.

  21. Very good info.. i like all points

  22. Grey

    Its really very important to know whether your links are crawled by google or not?whether your pages are indexed regularly or not?
    You have to consider all this area when you are deal with latest changes of Google.

  23. Good advice in this article, it really does pay to play by googles rules!

  24. Google sometimes acts like Microsoft, but in the end they really want the best for all of their users. I think that as a website designer I need to listen to what they say. Unless I get to be the next Google!

  25. Just because Google makes about 500 changes to its algorithms every year, that doesn’t mean that the resulting page returns are getting better. If anything, the relevance of results returned on search input queries are worse than before, especially on long search queries, which means that one can get very frustrated and waste a lot of time not finding the information easily that one searches for, Panda or no Panda. Obviously, I also agree that quality sites with great content should get preference in the top search results and I think Google is very fair in giving the best sites the respect they deserve, but keyword search is still very limited and Google really needs to improve on its core search. I am sure many would agree with me!

    • moonlight

      You are quite 1000% correct, Sally. No matter the number of changes made to their algorithm, the search results suck the big wet one. There is absolutely no relevancy whatsoever and results show crap from 4 years or more ago. Rarely anything recent. I can see why though.

      Google and other so called “experts” tell users that keyword meta tags have no weight in rankings. Well, DUH! How else, besides description and title is a site supposed to be found in a search query? In my work, I make damn sure the title, keywords, description and content are 100% RELEVANT to each other. Works every freaking time. It’s amazing!

      I look at the source codes for top ranking sites and what do I find? Some have no meta tags at all, keyword stuffing, too many characters to be search engine friendly. Nothing but a bunch of code! No freaking WONDER search results are so FKED up.

      On every site I build, the meta tags are properly done, and oh yes, including the keyword meta tags, and are relevant for the search terms the client wants to be found under.

      Well, lo and behold whattayaknow! There are my clients’ sites on the FIRST PAGE for their keywords! Freaking imagine that! Wonder how that happened?

      This is done WITHOUT the link juice that Gargoyle says is soooo important.

      And here’s another shocker. I get brand new domains on the first page within 3-5 days. No link juice, no citations, no search engine submissions, no blah, blah, freaking blah.
      Freaking imagine that! I’ve done it MANY times. But according to Gargoyle and so called “experts” it can’t be done. WRONG! I do it all the time!

      BTW, I haven’t submitted sites to a search engine in I don’t know how long…YEARS! Gues what? My clients appear on Gargoy;e’s first page and WHOOPS! There they are on Bing and Yahoo ALL WITHOUT SEARCH ENGINE SUBMISSIONS!!!

      All of it is done using just plain old pure yet meticulous organic white hat techniques and to-the-bone common sense SEO without spam or the use of any software to accomplish it. Content is king? I say RELEVANCE is king! But you won’t find relevance at Google, however.

      Whatever they’re smoking over at “Google the Gargoyle”, they need to share it with people who can be more responsible with it! Obviously it’s frying their tiny brains. They are really good at making things more complicated than they need to be. Now it’s text/content above the fold BS! They just really don’t know what to do to justify their time. Must be very bored.

      They can show me all the text above the fold that they want. It doesn’t make the site relevant to my search query.

      Further, I think the many algorithm changes are nothing more than a game of checkers to The Great Gargoyle. Smoke a phat one and screw around with the algorithm. Lets see who we can piss off this time.

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  26. nice article,,, thanks for inspired…

    • You mean, thanks for inspiring?

  27. hello sir, I don’t know what my site did to Google as they don’t give my site respect at all. cant search for my site and find it on Google. why? and how can i create a well and suitable keywords? thanks for your understand and I’ll patiently await your reply.

  28. It would be great if google released a tool which showed you the areas of their Algorithms where a site fell short… That may have been a dream…

  29. I’ve also found it frustrating that several YouTube scraper sites are ranking so well. They look like auto blogs that have about 150 categories covering every keyword within a niche. Each category then has between 20 and 60 entries but everyone of them is just the keyword title and a YouTube video. Pretty much no written content, only been around about six months and are out ranking high content sites that have been around 5 years plus. Would these video sites not be considered duplicate content ?

  30. Really good and much effective article and research on search Engine google.

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