[Exclusive] Can Hackers Create a SOPA-Proof Internet?

By: Drew Bowling - January 4, 2012

What’s the shortest distance between two points? If you said a straight line, then you just earned a self-high five.

We here at WebProNews we have already given you a guide on how to navigate the post-SOPA Internet, but suppose there was an alternative that would obviate any need to even deal with an Internet burdened with the bureaucratic cangue of the United States government. In other words, what if you could use a different Internet altogether?

What if there were two Internets? Is freedom of speech and access to information important enough to you that you’d hop aboard a user-created and -controlled Internet? Does SOPA scare you that much? Let us know in the comments below.

If one is to ever exist, the architects of that straight line to Internet freedom will be Hackerspace Global Grid, a cabal of hackers that have taken up the cause of creating a satellite-based communication network that would be capable of establishing an “uncensorable” Internet. It’s just one of the many goals of their ambitious project to pioneer a global grass-roots space program. Think of it as an open-source outer space mission.

It all started in August at the Chaos Community Camp when Nick Farr issued a call to hackers to begin planning to build an Internet that couldn’t be censored by any government, citing the possibility of a SOPA’ed Internet as to why hackers – and everybody, really – should have an Internet unencumbered by censorship. HGG responded with the proposal of creating a satellite-based network capable of “defense against terrestrial censorship of the Internet.”

While HGG states that an alternate Internet incapable of being censored is one possible utilization of such an ambitious project, it’s just one of the many uses from a distributed satellite ground-station network. Essentially, it’s a communication network that puts an emphasis on an open-source community of technology development. While there are numerous goals with undertaking this satellite-for-hackers project, the first goal of Farr’s is to establish a resistance against Internet censorship. “The first goal is an uncensorable Internet in Space,” Farr told BBC. “Let’s take the Internet out of the control of terrestrial entities.”

So how will this ambitious goal of hacking outer space pan out? Two members of the HGG team, hadez and Andreas Hornig, spoke with WebProNews about how this mission developed and where it will go. As mentioned above, this call to arms is “a direct answer to Nick Farr, Lars Weiler, and Jens Ohlig’s call for a ‘Hacker Space Program,” said hadez.

Hornig, who is actually more of an engineer than card-carrying hacker, adds, “Members of our two groups, shackspace and Constellation (me), came together and joined efforts. For my side I had an idea about a distributed ground-station network for my group and my university. I asked in HAM radio boards for help and a shackspace member found me and invited me to the shackspace, because I’m in their proximity. Because both groups share a lot of goals and we knew the project’s tasks are very challenging, we joined forces and combined our objectives and technical goals.”

And speaking of that collaborative effort required to succeed on far-reaching projects, some readers out there might be wondering how on earth (oh, the pun) can a group of private individuals possibly hope to finance a mission to essentially colonize space? Hornig and hadez welcome any contributions to HGG’s cause since, as you can imagine, this is going to eventually tally up a pricey bill. “We’re open for any support because this project is ambitious,” Hornig said. hadez estimates that the group is “still below 500 EUR in total at this point largely thanks to the fact that there’s a lot of infrastructure present at thelocal hackerspace ‘shackspace’ in Stuttgart, Germany which we can use.” While that’s a good start, the pair admits, “There will be a point where a more significant investment will have to be made, especially once we’re going to build more than a few initial ground stations. We have not yet made any decision whether to ask for funding or who to ask.”

Both members of HGG are adamant about maintaining the focus of the project on keeping the system open to both users and contributors while not compromising the goal with monetary contributions. hadez explains, “The core objective is building a fully open system (hardware, software, documentation) and keeping it that way. Funding which does not interfere with this goal and leaves us the same freedom we have currently would be a possibility.” Hornig emphasized the importance of the open-source aspect, saying, “We will rely on volunteers all over the world forming our global sensor and station grid (via Constellation) and higher costs for the hardware will result in less volunteers.”

Everybody got this? Not only will everybody have Internet freedom but it’s going to be coming from space. It’s like a Choose Your Own Adventure, Future Edition. But before everybody gets ahead of themselves there, lets make sure everybody’s on the same page: this communication system isn’t going to support the bandwidth you’d need to stream the final season of Arrested Development in HD. The FAQ from HGG explains:

If you’re in desperate need to communicate you do not care about watching videos on YouTube nor do you want to download the latest album of your favorite band to have the perfect soundtrack for whatever the hell you’re doing. You want to get a message out and receive updates. You want to inform and stay informed yourself. A first step will be providing bare-minimum communication infrastructure for that moment of feaco-rotary intersection that will hopefully never happen. But it did happen, several times during 2011 alone in several places. It will happen again.

Think twitter updates, not video streaming.

While the Internet capability is one of HGG’s many goals, Hornig points out that their broader mission is to create a “fusion” between science and society. “The sensor grid allows us to do research in various fields and communication could also be possible as a side effect,” he said. “Especially in aerospace a lot of people think, ‘What is it good for?’ and they forget that they use space technology all the time, like satellite navigation in their cars and cell-phones, weather forecasts and HD-channels via satellite-TV. But they just use it, they are not an essential part. In HGG they can be part and, even more important, they are relevant for the system in general.”

At any rate, HGG doesn’t want to rule out “high-bandwidth links and geo-stationary community controlled satellites” in the future, but for now this would be an incredible gift to society. And before any of you start feeling deflated about this limitation: stop. Allay any of your first-world disappointments because this is a bigger deal than some people may appreciate. Recall when Egypt’s government “turned off” the Internet last January or when Syria tried to suppress users of iPhones or even China’s Great Firewall – all of these obstacles could potentially be circumvented by HGG’s project. And even here in the United States where a Congressional gerontocracy would limit the expression of speech and access to information via SOPA or PIPA, how far behind is the spectre of a total shutdown of the Internet?

That possibility is a big If (hopefully), but if it becomes a real possibility, people like HGG will be your new best friends.

So, do you think it’ll work? I know it sounds like The Future, but can individual hackers and scientists work together to really create a sustainable communication network that would support an alternate Internet? How do you think private industries would respond to such a bold endeavor? Let us know in the comments below

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Drew BowlingDrew Bowling is a staff writer for WebProNews. He never met an all-you-can-eat buffet he didn't like. Twitter: @bentfortherent Google: +Drew Bowling

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  • Mimi
  • Alan

    Seeing as Hackers are more adept to technology than Governments I see no reason why they can’t.

  • tattoDragon

    dead people in my head spaces help me

  • obama

    Lets hope This bill gets past in White house and SOPA get there way this is good news it Mens less Yanks on line 😉

    • MFW

      You do realize that most websites are based in the US, right? And that without the traffic from the US, many sites won’t be able to get funding and will die, or may even get shut down by the US government?
      Stupid git.

    • JT

      There are so many things wrong with your English alone…

  • Kano’s Bionic Eye

    This eyah makes me want to watch the Angelina Jolie Hackers movie. “Hack the planet!”

  • Teksavvy

    Eliminating censorship opens a can of worms. There has to be some kind of control feature otherwise we’ll end up with another communication/information network just as bad or worse than the one we have now. Some time ago there was talk of a “members only” type of internet. The intentions were to regulate unsavory types of sites and make secondary internet for communication and information in its purest form.

    • http://natanael.posterous.com/ Natanael L

      “The best response to bad speech is good speech”

      Criminals can still be infiltrated by the police.
      And for the rest, the best control is knowledge and awareness about what scams look like.

      • austin

        that’s exactly the wrong kind of attitude, and exactly the kind that this wishes abolish. none of this judgemental “unsavoury types of sites”
        what i want, and what many others want, is an internet where we are allowed to say anything we want, where there isnt any of this overseeing from people who believe they know better than me what i should and shouldnt say, or what site i should and shouldnt make or visit. you say “worse” i say “better” i say the thing you want to see abolished is the very thing i love about the internet and want to see preserved against all encroachment.

  • LD

    I think it can be the ultimate tool to keep freedom alive if the unthinkable happens. Uncensored communications really is the key to organized resistance.

  • http://www.stanleyoppenheimer.com searchengineman

    This is very silly, if someone or somebodies launched a private sattelite into space.. and actually (Like Wiki Leaks) threatened the security of a nation..don’t be surprised if someone shoots the satelite down…or some private citizen gets a dose of Polonium in there Gatorade or Orange Crush.. (Not sure what hackers drink these days).

    If they build this system it better be poison and people proof. Hmmmm wait a minute wasn’t the internet suppose to be that :-)


    • http://www.ientry.com/ Drew Bowling

      Pretty sure HGG is already ahead of you. From their FAQ:

      What if someone jams your satellite or shoots it from the sky?

      It probably will not work and once it’s shot down it’s… well.. shot down I guess. Since we don’t have actual satellites yet, this falls in the category of problems we’re going to solve once they occur. We’re doing this because we want to and because it’s fun. We’re trying to concentrate on reasons why this will work, not why it won’t.

      • m4n14c

        Even with ASAT technology (China, US and Russia have this type o weapon), destroying a satellite is very dangerous. The 2007 china ASAT test created 40% more space debris in Low earth Orbit.
        These debris are dangerous to all satellites orbiting the same altitude. They can destroy satellites and create more debris. If the space junk is sufficiently numerous, a runaway satellite destruction can take place, and space launches and travels will become impossible.

    • anonymous

      We cannot be stopped, the government may get in our way, but they will NEVER make us quit. We are legion.

  • http://bloggers.com/Buxykay Blogger Member

    I am totally for these guys. I hate censorship but I don’t approve of irresponsible behavior. I wish them all the best in their endeavors. 500Euros you said? I wouldn’t mind to make a donation if that will beat all censorship.

    • http://www.ientry.com/ Drew Bowling

      HGG lists several ways people can contribute to their project on their FAQ page. Check it out if you seriously wanna donate.

  • Dr. G. Patino MD.

    Commenting on the HGG exterior internet…

    I personally think that would be ideal; can you imagine someone logging on and asking for medical advise (anonymously) fearing no oversite by big-pharma or governments…

    Sign Me up!
    Dr. Gp MD.,

  • María Cristina raquel

    Gana dinero como webmaster inscribíte y tendrás ese dinero extra que tanto ansias!

  • http://bit.ly/vIxjyx Sylvia

    I love , that finally some people are not afraid about all this NONSENSE RULES AND LAWS from governement’s and religions… in this world.. who just trying masses of humans keeping brain-dead in THERE CONTROL FOR THERE OWN POWERS AND OWN PROFITS… over People ! .. we all got the power of using our own brains and minds to creating good thigns for EVEYTHIng TOGETHER !
    this is surpressed since ancent times….

    we all have to take SELF-RESPONSIBILITY for our actions and decisions, we got the POWER in as all.. to creating GOOD and not to harm others and not to be GREEDY FOR OUR OWN POWER POSSESSIVE PURPOSES !

    FREEDOM to be our SELF and the right to THINKING FOR AND BY OUR SELF.. IS OUR ALL RIGHT from the Universal laws !


    WHO the hell take the right to chose for as .. what we can and not ????
    CONTROLLING FREAKS , doing so.. in fear to losing there CONTROL OVER OTHERS for there own advantage over masses of Humans !@ !


    sorry to be so direct here, but there are still to many “blind and deaf following people” kind brain-dead on this planet .. not able anymore to thinking for them self … is so sad and this is the real misery for Humanity ..

    • Waffer

      This is a sample of the kind of diatribe a free internet will provide. All the nut-cases like Sylvia here will get on their soapboxes and spew their garbage and verbal diarrhea before they even learn how to spell correctly. I’m all for a free Internet but how do we shuffle off the qwacks to the corner, out of the way?

      • austin

        just ignore them, i stopped reading his post about half way through.

        he has the right to be a raving loon and we have the right to ignore him.

  • http://www.zoomobileinc.com ed Wilson

    The problem with uncensorship in today’s world, which is much different from my world of 60 yrs ago, has to do with M.O.R.A.L.S. Perhaps I should say, the lack thereof. Today’s world cares very little when underage citizens are exposed to mental and emotional trash, filth, disgusting images of exposed raw flesh, just because a nerd-y type, unable to swing a one-on-one, face-to-face conversation with another human, has an “uncontrollable moment”. “G.G.H.” (Go, get help, nerdy, weirdo types!

    • JT

      Haha….that’s a good one. If it wasn’t for needy weirdo types you’d have died of cholera at the age of 25. We’re the ones who make the world go round.

    • austin

      oh god no they see exposed flesh? thats horrible. obviously god never intended people to see exposed flesh thats why he made us with clothes…oh wait…

  • Joanna

    I just worry that creating a truely free internet will come at the cost of the children. I worry that something like this would be a great platform for pedophiles and child porn distributers to to go unnoticed.

    • http://www.webpronews.com/ Chris Richardson

      Pedophiles run rampant on the current version of the web, they just know how to stay hidden. It’s not as if child pornography is championed by these hackers as it is. There’s a difference between not agreeing with current copyright laws, SOPA and the like and allowing child porn to be propagated across a network you administer.

      At least to me.

    • Michael

      You are not one of those types that believes laws deter crime, are you?

      CP is not protected speech – an “open” internet will not change that.

      I find it disconcerting that parents today don’t want to be bothered with real parenting. If parents are concerned with CP and pedophiles, it would behoove them to monitor their child’s activities, on and off the internet. “Big Brother” is not your personal babysitter.

  • Joyce Grayson

    It seems that already far far too many controversial (read not pc) posts disappear. Yes, thinking people do need an alternative internet, just like they need a source of alternative medicine.

  • http://www.theakurians.com General Bobby Farrell

    You’re damned right it will work!
    Even though it will be an infected thorn in the *ss of the OWG, it can also be a god-send to advertisers who must still work to eat! An eventual source of income for the Project …

    There is Investment Capital available if presented properly and LIMITATIONS placed in advance.

    That Damned Akurian
    General Bobby Farrell

  • Brian

    Your article is quite provoking.

    I doubt this type of endeavor would get far as governments the world over would claim that it is used for terrorism, fraud, or tax evasion. These governments would then exercise or implement “international laws” that would allow them to disband or regulate such an enterprise.

    Welcome to the global police state.



  • LOL!

    This isn’t new news. A free internet was already in the making from the moment the government decided that censoring was a good idea. I don’t think anyone will stay with the government’s idea of an internet. But it has actually already started… Companies are throttling torrent users, blacklisting sites, etc.

    I don’t think signing petitions will do anything about it, and the only reason it isn’t up for a vote just yet is because some congress woman got butt hurt about being called boring by a peer on twitter. (I think she’ll ban twitter first.)

  • Kevin

    While an “uncensored” internet sounds appealing to those looking for freedom of expression and prevention of censorship by China-like governments, what it will turn into is a slum of child-porn, illegal content, etc…

    What we really need is an Internet that provides 100% trackability that follows the rule that if you don’t want to put your name on it keep it to yourself

    • http://natanael.posterous.com/ Natanael L

      That have been tried. It has failed and will fail again.

      By the way, are you sure that everything you say are considered good by everybody? What if all these whistleblowers that ahve revealed murders, etc, were forced to tell about it in the open with their name attached? The case for anonymity is stronger than the case for forced identification.

    • KyanWan

      Childporn is the standby argument for SOPA supporters.

      The current internet is open and free. Do you see childporn around every corner?

      NO. YOU DON’T.

      Buddy, try again. None of the people building said free & open networks support disgusting animals. Just because some filthy subhuman piece of garbage happens to use things at times, does NOT mean they will be accepted by anyone, nor will they be assisted in their efforts.

      You sir, are gravely wrong.

  • sofakingdabest

    Hackers creating another internet that can’t be hacked. Please Mr. Wizard…

    • KyanWan

      You must be new around here. Welcome to the internet.

      There are plenty of books & documents available detailing on how to make your communications private or unreadable. It can be done, it will be done.

      How do you think there is news coming out of areas of the world with filters, censorship, and internet blackouts?

      Yeah, that’s right! We’re going to be using the same technology soon. You better find out how to before it’s too late. :)

  • Greg

    This is not an exclusive – it is spreading all over the place – I got it from Linkedin and put it on my blog along with other initiatives like free light with no electricity.

    I hope it takes off / I would like to see it used to highlight the size and number of refugee camps in the world.

    • http://www.ientry.com/ Drew Bowling

      It’s not an exclusive story, no – after all, we are on the Internet, where information abounds. It has the exclusive tag because I posed specific questions to the two members of HGG that responded directly to me.

      “Directly to me”, i.e. exclusively to me. Meaning some of this info you probably won’t see elsewhere unless it gets poached from this site. So… high five?

      • http://thewebsensesolution.com Jonathan

        I think that calls for a self high five Drew.

  • http://www.islandheat.com Jeffrey Cartwright

    The best intensions in and for today’s technical challenges are all good. Until you place the Worldwide element of GREED in Play then everything changes. The alluring and most positive outcome and quick rich to riches is always the down fall.

  • http://www.ko-websites.com Vince

    As I understand it our bills are going to effectively block web addresses from being listed in DNS servers. So all we would really have to do is change which DNS servers our computers access like openDNS or other independent 3rd part DNS server that isn’t effected by these bills.

    • austin

      that would be a “circumvention technology” and would be illegal under the bill. (lets be honest the bill is so badly written everything is a circumvention technology)

  • http://www.campfirecontent.com/ Charlie

    Hmmm…I wonder! While I don’t really know very much about SOPA (I’ve only seen bits and pieces about it), nor very much about “hackers”…I am intrigued with the thought of a 2nd alternative to what I’m hearing might become a nightmare when/if SOPA gets fully implemented in the existing internet.

    I’m also pretty clueless as to how such a thing could actually be done. It seems the big corporations who own and operate the various infrastructures to process and move all the data that makes the web what it is will likely have lots to say about just who can access and use those resources…unless the alternative internet was completely “underground” and available only through risky, illegal channels that somehow ride along “piggy-back” style on the back of the existing web(?). Sorry…this is way over my head…I’ll put it to rest now. I hope whatever happens just doesn’t completely destroy my individual access to what has become a resource that would be difficult to be without.

    • Mountaingal

      I’m with you, Charlie, since this is kind of over my head as well. Maybe I just don’t know enough about computers and the intricacies of the Internet’s workings, but it seems to me that, IF the government wanted to implement full censorship then they could still do so at their will at any time and ONLY grant Internet access to “approved individuals”. Someone correct me please if I’m wrong, but would not accessing an “independent/uncensored Internet” still require the user to have a registered account with some Internet Service Provider somewhere? And could not such an account (and with it the Internet access) be restricted, revoked, or otherwise controlled by the Government at any time, thus making it impossible for the user to access anything that’s not “Government approved”? Wouldn’t it be easy for a Government, intent on controlling acceess, to pressure/force Internet Service providers into restricting their customers’ Internet access in any way they see fit?
      I think that (unfortunately) the largest majority of Internet users just don’t have the technical abilities and know-how to make use of “hacked” ways that may bypass Government censorship and/or restrictions. And once those restrictions are starting to be implemented (no doubt they will soon) there surely won’t be any access to “hacking lessons” freely available online.

      • austin

        i’ll attempt to answer this to the best of my ability.
        an ISP at its core just routes trafic.
        so for instance you have a local network which consists of everyone hooked into your router. it probably has an address like or or something to that effect. that is your network. a computer on that network might have a web server running and you can put their address (say into your browser and view their website. any computer on the network can do this. they may also have a DNS server running that translates that into something you can understand (like foo.org) so you put foo.org into that browser and you will hit their website.
        this is all a local network its like a miniature version of the internet (kinda like a fractal)

        the internet is simply a network of networks (or a network of networks of networks of networks)
        so your ISP serves the purpose of your router (they are just very complicated routers) so your router connected through your modem to the ISPs network (the isp itself connects to another larger network and so on, one isp might be connected to more than one network)

        the satellite network works like your basic ISP, your network connects to the satellite network and then routes traffic to other networks connected to the satellite network.
        now by itself this network couldnt connect for instance to google, because google is part of the normal internet this hackernet(for lack of a better name) routes only to people connected to the hackernet to get connected to the internet ISPs would be needed or sites on the internet would need to also be available on the hackernet.

  • PolarGuy

    The biggest problem with any independent Internet is that sooner or later it will have to hit phone lines somewhere…and when it does, it is again open to sensorship that is determined by the owners of the phone lines or the governments regulating them. If these hackers are going to build millions of miles of phone lines all over the world, this idea may have a chance.

    • KyanWan

      Unbreakable encryption techniques. ( Which exist today. )

      Enough said.

      There is nothing they can do about encryption. If they want to block encrypted communication – they’ll ~destroy~ literally all commerce within the USA.

      The economic ramifications will be astronomical.

      • Mountaingal

        KyanWan, it seems to me that ‘they’ don’t really care what all they ~destroy~ within the USA, just as long as ‘they’ get their way. Seems the old saying that “the ends justify the means” is ‘their’ favorite motto.

    • austin

      to an extent. if im on the hackernet(for lack of a better name) and you are on the hackernet we can talk without ever hitting a phone line, you could view my website and i yours without ever hitting a phone line.
      if i want to hit someone on the internet however i must go through the conventional means and someone has to hit the phone lines.

  • KyanWan

    Yes, it can be done. Prior to the internet, we had private BBSes where people would communicate without restrictions that we face today. Take TOR for example, there is a private domain .onion that works with Tor – outside of traditional DNS. Government can not control internet, most certainly not with the crude means set out by SOPA. Really, does anyone online think that these inept people -CHRIS DODD in particular- can design some form of protection to stop hackers & internet pirates?

    Please, someone stand up and say they can, I’d like to join in the chorus of laughter.

    All that these congresspeople are good at doing is breaking things. The key figure behind SOPA -Chris Dodd- moreso than others. Dodd broke the world economy. It didn’t satisfy him – now he’s after the Internet. ( HE EVEN SAID CHINA IS THE MODEL FOR SOPA! – Google it: “chris dodd china model for sopa” – the guy is absolutely witless and shameless! )

  • David H

    Yes, fascinating that soon after the internet has started up that we are already admitting that the first version of it and its promise and its freedom and its supposed un-interruptibility has so quickly lost its way.

    The one thing, the ONE thing that was said as a mantra over and over back in the 90’s and right into the earlier part of this century was that the internet was completely unblockable. Governments could not stop it. How naive!

    Well, folks, this second overhead-in-the-sky internet is already doomed, if you are under the illusion of it being above earthly authority.

    Many corporations make satellite jammers. Simple, simple technology. China has sent satellite jammers to Africa. Chinese satellite jammers are employed in some otherwise technology challenged countries in Northern Africa by “hostile” forces.

    For every satellite you could put up the technology already exists, indeed, has been CREATED SPECIFICALLY for this PURPOSE!

    It can fit into suitcases.

    The electro magnetic spectrum is pitifully vulnerable to all manner of jamming and counter-measures.

    This idea of satellite based extra-net is doomed by man’s own capacity to ruin everything we build. Noble motives are always doomed by dark, nefarious, dictatorial motives.

  • Steve Kinney

    Building a network of satellites to bypass the State-censored Internet is a cool idea but it is not going to happen. Amateur radio enthusiasts have been launching small satellites, usually piggybacked on other launches for at very low cost, since the 1960s. But lofting a comsat network that can support “normal” Internet users is not happening this decade.

    In real life, there are already three darknets available to the public at no cost, that very effectively resist censorship: The .onion sites that can only be accessed via TOR, the i2p network (Invisible Internet Protocol), and Freenet. They are all fully isolated from the public Internet by layers of encryption and anonymizing protocols. If any of these networks ever starts carrying commercial content, .onion sites accessable to TOR users will be the first. TOR already has a large user base, and thanks to the Vidalia project, it is easy enough for Joe Six Pack and Suzy Soccer Mom to install and use – if they somehow find out it exists.

    “Undernet” sites in these networks are effectively impossible to censor, because identifying the servers carrying the content you want removed is impossible for end users, next to impossible for corporate users, and involves too much classified technology for the intelligence services to admit they can do it when required. But these censorship-proof networks are also slow and unreliable, and require the user to find, install, and configure software to even take a test drive.

    As for SOPA, a simple browser plugin that downloads lists of banned websites and their actual IP addresses from a central registry can trivially bypass the censorship. This, as far as SOPA is concerned, is the final solution: SOPA censorship is an attack at the DNS level, preventing domain names like yoursite.com from resolving into routeable IP addresses like No actual firewall filter is involved, so a plugin that does the conversion from domain name to IP address inside the browser itself negates the censorship completely.

  • http://www.captaincyberzone.com CaptainCyberzone

    I don’t have a problem with an “Internet unencumbered by censorship” as long as this Internet doesn’t consider my paid-for copyrighted material “censorship” and their right of “free speech”.

  • http://vaporizersale.com The Vaporizer Review

    Let’s hope so.

    • Shabbir Sheikh

      Goodluck guys!

      Freedom of Speech,Freedom of Mind…
      No more brainwashing information!

      May the Force be With You!

  • Rick R

    All good IF they can use satellites whose owners have not agreed to redirect all traffic via ground stations (for snooping) as now happens in the USA, China and Australia.

  • dan

    the problem with having a user-controlled internet is the corruptness it would cause. the “gods” of the internet would control all of our information- credit cards, bank information, social security numbers, etc…

    under this new “censored internet era”, would you have the choice between going on either net? would it be illegal? WTF?! AHHHHHH ::head explodes::

  • MirceaKitsune

    Yes, I’m scared and revolted of SOPA, and very interested in the thought of safe and alternative internets (or safe connections to the actual internet). This is very good news, and I have all good hopes for the people trying to make this satellite work. Good luck, and I hope to hear good news in the next years! <3

  • http://www.snakeshows.com.au snakeman Raymond Hoser

    Some of the comments below are on the money.
    Governments will simply declare an out of space internet illegal and then simply blow it up as part of a war on terror under their interpretation of international law. When all the pomp and ceremony of law is removed, it is always enforced at the end of a gun and that’s why places the like the US of A can invade places like Libya and at the end of the day, there’s nothing gthe weaker side can do.

  • freedom

    You BET I would use it!!!!!! Yay for the freedom to information. THANK YOU HACKERS!!!!

  • http://get-business-online.com/ Gal Baras

    Human ingenuity trumps government control over time, as has been shown numerous times throughout history. Taking away freedoms has never been tolerated by people and having a single country attempt to control the freedoms of citizens of other countries is even more outrageous.

    I’m sensing a Google network and a Facebook network coming up, possibly as major (secret?) investors in the above mentioned initiative. HGG is going to have a lot of money very quickly if nobody else comes up with a better system, so I’m thinking bandwidth will be no problem.

    Long live the Internet revolution! Down with stupid politicians! Good people of the world, unite!

  • lili

    I love all hackers. They can do this. Where’s the Paypal button or PO box so they can get started?
    I’d like for them also to take down the IRS but that’s just me.

  • jim stone

    This will work because the developers have common sense and are initially going text only. Modern systems are extremely capable, and if they are relegated to text only, they will take a LOT of traffic with minimal expense.

    The true spirit of information freedom will be maintained. This approach also proves that the genuine purpose is freedom of speech and not copyright theft, because copyright theft requires a lot of bandwidth.

    Hats off to these folks, for common sense and the preservation of truth.

    Any satellites launched will have to survive ground based laser attack, bad boys play rough. But if it’s text only, a satellite with minimal electronics supporting a single gigabit channel would really do a lot for the world. You could cram the electronics into a soda can centered in a giant attack resistant heatsink which also housed a lithium ion battery and a few robust solar cells. It would have to be geostationary, so you would need a fairly powerful transmitter but if it is kept simple, and built mainly to survive assault it might be a viable option.

    You really would have to focus on making it resistant to laser attacks from the ground. Such resistance would also help it survive in space, where hot and cold extremes tear satellites up.

    Jim Stone

  • http://biselliano.info Biselliano

    I find it a necessity to the revolution, that is of course until we take back the original internet.

  • http://stranglecorp.com Kilroy

    However Utopian the notion, resources is where the rubber meets the road.

  • vibhuti

    I would join any internet that was not regulated by government or corporations, They are parasites of the lowest kind. Freedom of speech is something men of past generations sacrificed their lives to insure not so ignorant dumbed down couch potatoes could have it taken from them without so much as a fart. Disgusting creatures those, I can’t stand secret societies, bloodlines that think they have divine rights, government puppets, and the many morons that serve them for the sake of fake money to by shit from China. Yeah I’ll go, follow the white rabbit!

  • gmathol

    Not possible, every website has to make use of an ISP and with or without encryption we are all under government control.

    What’s needed is a complete independent internet – means independent hardware and lines. Sure we can launch our own satellites? I don’t think so – it will get real worse, because the bandwidth limits are in the making and with them in place we wouldn’t even be able to afford the use of excessive broadband.

  • Barry

    Why not setup an encrypted VPN internet. The wired network infrastructure is already in place, why re-invent the wheel. Just have member signups. The trick is, who manages the network?

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  • don

    Definately, no questions asked, just do it.

  • Waffer

    I can see it now, the world governments hacking the Freedom Internet…just to get even or as payback.

  • jj

    I would absolutely participate in and support a second Internet if it ever came to that, no matter how rudimentary!

    This is possibly the most interesting and important thing that has happened in our lifetimes. Wars happen all the time, but a war like this has never happened before.

  • chris

    I would jump on a SOPA free internet for sure.. In fact, I would even PAY FOR IT! I always knew that one day I would need my hacker internet buddy. Please tell us where to sign up if the SOPA b.s. gets passed, and with all the physco’s making the decisions that effect all of us normal peoples lives, I think it will get passed. Just look at how outrageous and absurd everything is. We are talking biblical proportion insanity leading OUR NATION! #$^%&^*&*@ FFFF34%$^%&^&%$ IM LOSING IT!@#$%^&*&$ SEE!@$#%^&^*^&$ SSSHHH^%&^$%#$@%^ FFFFF#%^&*(&*^&()(*

  • http://www.lollsoowodiis.com assassin

    Hey you guys in the u.s. voted for your political members to represent you so why come bitchin now to the world, you created the monster so you deal with it. As for the rest of the world, well there is sure to be another internet. Its from forest fires that new life evolves. Deal with and get over it..its just life and thats how it is.

  • cristina

    Amazing! it should be created whether SOPA passes or not! a

  • enoch

    Sopa scared me

  • Freeman

    I believe its possible that HGG can become a reality. Afterall internet also grew from an experimental project of the military.