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  1. Originally when I read the headline and teaser I thought this was another employee trashing his company in a public forum or a social media site and I thought he should be fired. After reading the story, and if it was truly an accidental public post and meant for internal viewers only, I think he should be commended. Albeit harsh, it does seem to be very constructive and an opinion that should be shared (well, I guess it depends on your boss and the political structure of the organization). Sometimes the emperor needs to be told that he is not wearing clothes.

    • Yeah, I mean, it’s not as though this stuff he didn’t want his employers to see, as ballsy as it may seem. Now Eric Schmidt is on there. Maybe he didn’t want to miss this kind of stuff.

    • Were he still working for Amazon, he would have been out the door before it had a chance to close and hit him on the back-side.

      From my experience, Google actually thrives on constructive criticism, which this is clearly an example of. Unfortunately, especially in this case, it is not all actioned on.

  2. Obie

    We must be wise with our freedoms. Just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean you should.

  3. Ron

    It’s unfortunate that this was waylaid, but–of the content that has been provided here–it’s an intelligent and responsible comment on a massive investment. Every company should have a majority of workers who can be this open, honest and clearly spoken.

    Most don’t even have ONE.

    • He’s certainly gotten a lot of praise for what he’s said. Still, he may have laid it on a little thick at times. Specifically, lines like ““Google+ is a prime example of our complete failure to understand platforms from the very highest levels of executive leadership (hi Larry, Sergey, Eric, Vic, howdy howdy)…” Although, I guess if you’re looking to get their attention, that’s one way to do it.

  4. Where Google+ got it wrong is they didn’t have search from the start. I mean a company know for search launches a product they know will need search capabilities and still won’t add that functionality into it. A full feature API would be nice, but easily can be added at any time. Where Google continues to get it wrong is they haven’t launched anything new except updating the circles and adding a few games. Big deal. I think Google+ is more like a scaled down version of Google Wave. When an employee states their mind I applaud them. It’s rare that you even hear what Google employees think about their own products other than to praise it. To be honest if Google were to simply create Google+ as a hub to connect all these social networking sites into one I think that’s where Google+ could really have a great system. I chat through Yahoo messenger for Facebook chat since Yahoo added that functionality through Facebook’s API. I don’t see why Google couldn’t add chat functionality of their own and/or even let Yahoo let users post to their Google+ profile and chat through Google+ through Yahoo Messenger.

    • They definitely should have had search from the start.

    • No way is an API an optional extra in this day and age. Can you imagine Twitter without an API? If you could only Tweet from their website? Google+ will come alive with true 3rd party mobile apps – Tweetdeck, Foursquare, all the other apps that currently post straight to Facebook and Twitter. Then when people are out in the world living their lives, they can share with Google+ as it happens. Yes you can do that with the Google+ official app, but that’s about it.

  5. Donald Trump

    Steve, you’re fired.

  6. A well written “rant” indeed!

  7. John

    I am not happy at all with Google+ …..There is almost nothing there and have not seen anything added since I joined

  8. If only every company allowed employees or contractors to speak their minds, you’d likely have a much better work environment. Instead, most companies will fire you for daring to criticise what they do.

  9. LOL, I just tried Google+ and I couldn’t agree more with this guy’s opinions. I have long felt Google is like a spoiled kid that inherited a fortune… they did actually earn what they’ve got by having the right search algorithm at the right time, but ever since that and some exploitation of it with advertising, they’ve tossed out 5th class software with fundamentally dim understanding, and gotten half lucky in a couple cases, more often than not abandoning their offerings, as will hopefully be the case with Google+. A copy of facebook may make alot of sense, a really stupid copy makes them look stupid. I imagine they could do something that would entice usage, between exploiting what remains of their search monopoly or investing some of their fortune in a rethink, but on the surface Google+ is a sad example of what can happen when a company gets too fat.

  10. Jodie

    Do you really believe that his posting to the public was an error. Please!!!!

    • I also have my doubts.

  11. Chris54

    The message of the post is, you should not mix internal and external tools (or products) together. Ever.

    • There is no such thing as an ‘internal’ only tool.

      With concepts similar to the ‘rogue engineer’ and the like, publishing an API for internal use only that couldn’t survive in the ‘wild’ of public access is nothing more than security through obscurity.

  12. DavidH

    I certainly hope this employee of Google does not get impacted from what is an honest mistake. Senior Management at Google has take this as a lesson learned and seek more input from their obvisously talented team members. But far to often management works in a scret bubble because they have all the answers..LOL.

    Creating an open and truly transparent environment leads to innovation, qaulity of work life and superior delivery of products and services.

  13. DMZ

    Ahem,

    Yegge deserves the medal of honor! What the main problem in Google as Yegge alluded to is that Google made it’s “name” in the search biz by figuring out what people “Really Wanted”. But not much else really works that way.

    They apply that sort of thinking to everything!

    I hope they DO fire him, because this dude has real talent. Not the kiss up type of talent that Google already has too much of!

    DMZ

  14. I think what was written could and does apply to thousands of developers working for thousands of companies.

    It is most interesting in Google’s case, at least for me, because one of the things that made Google what it is is the concept that, ‘He who dies with the most data, wins.’.

    But, data is worthless without a platform to leverage it.

    Google does try but the ‘platform’ is so data source centric and disparate and split amongst the various sources of data, e.g. Webmaster tools based on search, Analytics based on stats harvested from site usage, Adsense and Adwords data from each of their respective applications but, there is no overarching platform or architecture available to fully make use of all the information, read ‘data’, and make it available internally if not externally on a limited basis.

    Dealing with large amounts of varied data without a platform to provide data agnostic api’s possible is painful. It surprises me that Google hasn’t figured that out yet.

    I sincerely hope they do though. Look what Amazon does with the right concept compared to what they do wrong and then consider what Google could do with all the other things they do right as well.

    It gives me Google-bumps just thinking about the possibilities!

  15. This was very interesting.

    He definitely gets the big picture. The reason why Microsoft was so successful was because they got platforms. (Obviously they’re unclear how to create the next platform, but they’re still a huge company.)

    Apple on the other hand was run by benevolent tyrant. While setting the bar for interface, it didn’t really take off until technology enabled the creation of iThings. Apple had a big problem creating a platform that took off and enabled developers to develop business products for Apple. (Apparently this isn’t still an issue.)

    Jobs thought IBM would win if Apple didn’t. Instead Microsoft succeeded by creating a platform and took over. (IBM had to re-invent itself as a company that tied system together.) Microsoft unleashed innovation from multiple sources. Jobs by contrast relied on Jobs to innovate.

    It was fascinating see how Amazon succeeded. This is a good example of how someone used his centralized power to put in rules that enable decentralization and enable people to work together.

  16. Hey Chris,

    This is certainly a unique type of article which you don’t get every day.

    Maybe this software engineer is right and maybe not, only time will tell. But he seems to have a tendency (innate as it were) to limit his employment duration to 61/2 years, or thereabouts, with a given company. This is the quote that caught my attention:

    “I was at Amazon for about six and a half years, and now I’ve been at Google for that long…”

    What struck me is not what he said about his present employer’s prize product but that he had the chuzpa to say it in the first place and then proceded to publish it – albeit accidently – to the world. Maybe he’s reached his limit with this employer and is ready to move on to another company. I certainly get that feeling.

    Very interesting article, Chris. Thanks for sharing it!

    TPJ-

  17. Bob

    WOW! WOW! WOW! I hadn’t even finished reading the letter and had to stop right about here:

    “The problem is that we are trying to predict what people want and deliver it for them.”

    I’m telling you Google needs to hire more of these engineers who actually have a life and know what people really want. Most of these engineers at Google live in their own little code world.

    Yeah, that’s Google’s problem right there with search and everything else for many years; playing God trying to predict the world. Finally an engineer with common sense! The Herman Cain at Google do you dig me? This engineer is dangerous, very dangerous! 1998 Larry/Sergey 2.0. Should leave Google and try to strike it on his own!

  18. Reading the whole thing, the criticism which was quoted is a pretty small part of it.

    Wish I owned a company big enough to hire this guy.

  19. Brave man, Steve, not to mention technology-wise (we’ll excuse this particular fumble, right?). However, Google is not a social company at the core, it’s a search company, and Google+ and the +1 button are search plays.

    I’ve actually been dying to have the ability to post to Google+ from HootSuite or Seesmic, but no API, so I definitely feel that pain, but Google is sure to whip up something useful shortly. Anyone who can come up with Google Chrome, AdWords Analytics, etc (whether by themselves or through “other means”) can bridge this type of gap and move to the front.

  20. I think the platform has yet to find its place. We all wanted to try and now don’t know what to do with it and how much, with whom to interact.

    Facebook works because people you know socially are on it. Not everyone has 1000 friends.

    Question is, how long does it have before they begin to question its worth? If it is however a layer of what is to come then maybe we wait and see. In the mean time it is pretty quite out there.

  21. I see Facebook as a great extemporaneous idea: college kid spotting a hot chick or guy and wanting to hit on said attraction but only knows fleeting image … the answer … an online “yearbook” for the college where info on the hot chick or guy can be found. A basic want/need fullfilled … an instant hit. And it build from there, there was no “big” game plan.
    Now, to try and jump in, in hindsight, to copy the “winning” formula and come-up with a better “Facebook” could lead to the Edsel.
    So, Steve Yegge’s post was constructive criticism. I don’t see the big deal. If I were Google I’d encourage this behavior; if Ford [the company] had … just think, there’d be no “Edsel”, just Edsel Ford.

  22. I use google for picasa, docs, gmail, blogger, I cant stand the pointlessness and stupidity of facebook, especially the front man (but I couldn’t stand jobs either,) but, they never seem to get anything just right, they stop a particularly useful feature (e.g. HTML in docs) and their design is sometimes appalling (e.g. new interface in blogger) When I come across software like open office, I often find myself thinking, if only google could do something as well as this. Why do I carry on using them, well I’m not quite sure I can answer that with any logic !!

  23. This incident is sad from a human perspective. I am sure the poster in questtion is struck with remorse or embarrassment. Google has grown into a super duper mega giant within a short few years as compared to other giants that have taken ten times of years to get where Google is. I hope that the leadership in Google are enlightened enough to see the Gift this poster has accidentally given the other engineers at Google. Therefore, Google, I hope will be proactive and not reactivate or retaliatory. If the leadership at Google is confident, secure and at ease under their own skin they will do as I hope. If they do otherwise then we will know they are just fakes and not an innovative company but just like the usual suspects. I always believe in looking at the positive side in everyone. I am an optimist. An eternal one.

    Lets hope something good comes out of this accident and the Google engineers will include like reminder system just like they have when you are trying to delete emails or something to give you pause like a private icon to prevent this type of accidents by other users.

    Google should reward the poster for his Gift to Google. Lucky it happened to someone in Google and not an ordinary user like me or other hundreds of millions other users.

  24. Yeah not much of a criticism for Google actually … Bezos got more from the guy than Google, even thought his platform works and he ‘gets it’, he does not put him in the best perspective.
    It’s interesting this post is being hyped about Google while it’s not that bad at all after reading the entire original post.

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