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Google, Microsoft, or Facebook: Who Dropped The Ball With Your Online Privacy?

The latest round in the 'Who's Doing Internet Worse?' roulette

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  1. Kris

    Google and Facebook have “intent” to go against the wishes of their users and exploit a vulnerability to gain information about individual users. They do this without user permission and directly against the user’s already declared rejection of their tracking. They rejected invasion of their privacy when they set the browser settings. To knowingly go about to circumvent the privacy decisions of users wrong and I sincerely hope that both organisations have severe legal penalties. As for blaming Microsoft, well thats what narcissistic personalities do. They put the focus on another and are incapable of deeing their own faults. Google, and facebbok, have become narcissistic corporations operating without concern for anything other than their own empires.

  2. This is a no brainer!

    Microsoft needs the responsibility to protect Internet Explorer users by updating their privacy protections to block aggressive info-vampires like Google and Facebook. Period. Fire Fox should do the same to!

  3. Ray

    Greed is not new. To such companies, the bottom line always matters much more than decency or any thought of the public.

  4. The pressing issue here is how to stop all of them from keeping on secretly violating our privacy and our lives. The blame game is not going to resolve anything. This should be STOPPED and be classified as illegal.

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  7. Dick Smith

    Microsoft ABSOLUTELY HAS a responsibility to protect IE users by updating their privacy protections to block aggressive info-vampires like Google and Facebook? Otherwise they are just another rapest like their peers, harming us all. I also agree with Abraham above i.e. codified not classified with multimillion dollar penalties and jail time for the EXECUTIVES including all the wonderkids.

  8. Patrick Delaplace

    I’ll put equally the burden on all three companies, but I would approve and applause if Apple go to trial and see Google/Facebook fined some tens of millions dollars for non respecting individual privacy datas.

  9. Google and Face book should not use the flaws in the system to exploit its customers.

    If I left my car door open and someone went in and stole something, then who is responsible, for theft the thieves or I.

  10. Ste

    Funny, when the big players spy on us using criminal tools others like MS or Apple have to protect us!?

  11. The issue would be straightforward if Apple and Microsoft were neutral parties in the matter.

    The problem arises because they are both competitors to Google. They would very much like to keep Google out, and use all that data for themselves. Apple does own an advertising firm, not quite sure about Microsoft, but I know they are trying to build a similar ecosystem as Apple’s.

    It is quite coy of them to pretend to care about user privacy, when it is obvious they merely want to keep outsiders out.

    We do not live in a perfect world, and it is quite naive to think that if you tick one box in your browser, then your browsing habits are private. There are far too many parties involved in every action you perform on the internet. Your ISP, you may or may not be using your ISP’s DNS servers, so that is a potential other party.

    Your browser vendor, yes, even your web browser does things to the search queries so that they can get some referral revenues. Then the parties you interact with. Do you shop with a resonably sophisticated store? They can and do track you.

    Do you use a free email service such as Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo? How do you think they manage to provide the services to you free of charge?

    Even in paid for services, the providers have an incentive to track you, even if it is merely to provide you better service, some simply promise not to bombard you with ads.

    What I am getting at is the fact that you cannot expect to get privacy for cheap, just by ticking a box and going to sleep. You have to actively pursue it, if you think it is valuable. Spread your shoping around a number of stores. Get a paid-for email account with agreeable policies, empty your cookies often, use more than one browser (I never sign into facebook with my primary browser, because everyother website on the net has a facebook button nowadays), and if you use a free email service, well, use more than one, and spread your information around.

  12. I had enough of Facebook personally. I deleted my account a couple of days ago.

  13. People are missing what is important.

    The point is not that Google, Facebook or anyone else is collecting data they haven’t already been collecting for some time.

    The point is that Microsoft, in their infinite ability to not get anything right, decided to add some ineffectual code which ends up causing more problems than it solves.

    One has to use work-arounds just to do in IE what one can do in any other browser.

    It never ceases to amaze me how so many people think there is anything in their lives worth ‘spying on’.

    Better be careful the next time you buy something at Walmart, the cashier might make note of it and sell the information on the black market.

  14. Of course your personal data mean a lot to these companies, targeting is the essence of marketing and a big part of their revenue.

    By the way, who said “Don’t be evil”? ;-)

  15. I guess they all dropped it a little + ourself, we do it too of course.

  16. Like many, I’m taking the steps to shore up my privacy. I’m looking for an alternative to gmail, I switched from Google to start page (serves google results without the cookies or tracking). I have not used IE in years except to test development on websites. I have switched to Opera and Firefox for browsing and installed security alert plugins. I have to maintain a facebook account to access my customer’s ‘fan pages’ but I no longer go there, or do anything meaningful there. I have switched Diaspora*, an open source, apha, non-commercial social network with organization based on ‘interests’ and curiosity, and therefore a much more stimulating activity. I’m considering making a move to ALL open source software (Ubuntu/Linux for OS) and perhaps even changing to Tor for browsing, which offers ‘anonymous’ surfing and privacy protection. Since a large portion of the databases being gathered by corporations like google and facebook are being opened for access not only to major marketing corporations but to the Homeland Security Department for purposes of surveillance of the population online, it only makes sense.

    A reasonable expectation of privacy is part of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” …

  17. Too much data tracking reduces available spectrum for paying subscribers….a lousy 1% error in tracking ruins all the data anyway….give privacy back to the people before they give up on web benefits and let internet and social sites die….

  18. Note: try installing “Ghostery” plugin to Opera and Firefox to get an idea just how many folks are tracking you …

    • Andreas Krokene

      Sharon, Thanks for the Ghostery tip. I installed it.

    • Vio

      I am using Ghostery for few weeks, very nice addon!
      About the privacy issue, i think Google and Facebook did it wrong.
      Anyway, I closed my accounts on Facebook and Plus…

  19. Spamexterminator

    I’ve been aware of this security breach for a long time. To answer your question “Who should take the fall” Look at it this way; If a person forgets to lock their back door in their home and someone enters and robs them blind or vandalizes who is the guilty culprit in court? But here was a simple way I was getting around that issue I have 6 different internet browsers on my computer and I do certain things with each one (I also change the temporary internet folder location in each browser to keep them completely segregated). For instance I check my E-Mail and play games on FaceBook with FireFox where I’m logged into both FaceBook and Google. Then I use Opera Business and Dragon For Shopping so even if they are tracking what I’m looking at they don’t know who I am and that makes their tracking information pretty much useless.

    • greg

      the person who breaks the law (and who goes counter to social norms regarding privacy) is at fault…not the person who did not lock the door. not locking your door is not on par with an illegal act like trespassing. *rolls eyes* even a kid has learned this by the time they are 4 years old.

  20. Start-ups become companies then become corporations and like Governments that get “too big” (the U.S. comes to mind) they get autocratic and bureaucratic and with that comes corruption.

  21. Jesse

    Is it me or does this seem like the equivalent of the burglar that is caught breaking into a house saying “I’m not doing anything wrong cause this person over here is doing it too!” ???

    It seems to me that there was a clear & malicious intent on both Google & Facebook’s part to circumvent settings placed to protect people.

  22. XtremeMaC

    I am sorry to inform all of you that anything you do these days can and is tracked. This is mostly done to give you a better service. someone said walmart in the comments. you get a walmart discover cc card any it gets swiped on your purchases to give you a bonus.. they know what you’re buying…Credit card companies. They know where you were and shopped at a store.. cell phone companies: they track you everywhere! navigation softwares track you everywhere. you share your location on foursquare, twitter, etc.. you pin point favorite locations on google maps, etc.. you share your facebook wall with the public and you announce that you are going to xxx abroad for vacation, anyone who puts a bit of interest in your wall knows that you house is now vacant. there are many other ways you’re tracked everyday but I am cutting it short…
    So to those of you who are *trying* in their own way to *protect* their privacy I am sorry but you are all failing miserably…

    • Spamexterminator

      Not everyone. I don’t use plastic, I don’t have a cell phone or GPS, I never post that I’m going on vacation online, where I have been, or I’m going in general, and I use methods that prevent the conglomerates from putting a face or name to the data collected from my online browsing rendering it useless. All of which minimize the possibility of tracking me. Unfortunately to have internet access you can still be tracked by your ISP and depending on how trust worthy your ISP is, solely determines your online privacy and you can never tell who is completely trustworthy. There are some very untrusted ISP’s for instance NetZero, AOL and Microsoft which uses their own software to keep tabs on everything you do. So with exception to my ISP I can control what information will be tracked by whom.

  23. Jo

    Ordinarily I would probably side with Google on these issues. This is an exception. Just because Microsoft has sloppy coding in its browser doesn’t make it ok to violate people’s determined cookie consumption for the day.

    Both Facebook and Google are beginning to treat their members as numbers and not people. This always marks the start of a downfall. Any person or company that believes it can/will do as it pleases will face the repercussions.

    I already wrote about the future of Facebook if they don’t catch a wake-up to these sorts of matters. I sincerely hope Google doesn’t go the same route.

    No one needs another Microsoft example of how to treat your customers

    • Spamexterminator

      So what your saying is if you left your back door unlocked and a burglar enter your home a stole everything of value that it’s your fault and the criminal shouldn’t be punished.

  24. Beny

    Friend, is this a secret that the Internet giants are using our private data to make money ? I felt uncomfortable reading some articles from http://www.anti-socnet.com .

  25. Jay

    Uh.. Yeah.. I am not in shock over the fact that facebook and google exploited your browsers. I am shocked that you people are finally realizing that they have been doing this for years. No matter what, Everyone will complain and point fingers all over the place. Oh, Microsoft sucks and shouldn’t have such a poor codebase. Whatever. How many times have you been to facebook? That place is a java-based nightmare! It’s code is much less stable than Microsoft. Besides, don’t forget that Safari has a bug in their browser allowing this activity too. That means that Apple must have sloppy coding too right? Let’s look at this logically. The 2 big computer giants were found to be vulnerable once again. Yes, Apple has vulnerabilities too. 2 comanies whose primary revenues come from marketing were caught taking advantage of these 2 software giants shortcomings in order to collect more data from users in order to provide advertising that fits their needs and wants in order to get more money from their advertisements. This only keeps those people in business longer and provides more revenues for further development and new products. Besides google and facebook, you have much bigger things out there with all your info too. To worry about this is just ridiculous. Anyway, bottom line is that if you do not want to be tracked, just throw your computer away because that is the only way you will stop it. This is not the fault of google and facebook either. In fact, if you don’t want tracked, close all your accounts, cancel your utilities, get rid of your car and whatever other belonging you have purchased and had to provide any tidbit of information. Then, sell off your firearms too and don’t forget to completely detatch yourself from society altogether. Now, go in the mountains and live off the land, and you will have your privacy back as long as you don’t own the mountain…

  26. I was spammed once by a Chinese consortium which wanted to sell me my own site url. When I issued a very public press release about it they went away. I have known for years that what you put up on the internet is public no matter what you do. If you don’t want it stolen or exploited, JUST DON’T PUT IT UP THERE. For example, Google wants to track my personal life, my family, my friends, etc. across all media. I just leave those spaces blank. It wants to track my phone. I just put in zeroes. It’s none of Google’s or Facebook’s business what I do or say, so I’ll say or not say when I want to. When it comes to excercise of first amendment rights I know who is responsible. Me. Google and Facebook can’t do squat about it.

  27. Who Dropped The Ball With Our Online Privacy?

    All 3. And they continue to undisputed because our country is run by greedy corporations who own the politicians.

  28. The blame goes to all three Google, Microsoft and Facebook. We’re in 2012 and the Internet has never been so expanding. As company’s grow and gains more power, most huge corporations won’t hesitate going over our human rights. The system has huge corporation fighting for world domination and not for the sake of humanity.

    It’s up to you and I, as humans as citizens and as our Gods giving rights to ask these major corporation ad governments to respect our privacy and if needed to improve the laws already there to protect us enforce…

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