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Google wants to use authorship markup as ranking signal, requires Google Profile

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  1. What can I say? Google has been giving itself a lot of liberty pretending that it was all geared towards quality. My question is isn’t Google delving little by little into peoples privacy?

    Furthermore, I agree with the fact that authors should be rewarded for their hard work but then how are we going to be sure that misuse will not crop up here? For instance, a person writes about things happening in his country and he wants the world to know about it as we have been witnessing these days concerning human right abuses all over the world. His picture shows up in the search. Isn’t he or she going to be in danger that way? I was just thinking loud.

    • You thinking good my friend, but I think that you don’t need then put author. Google don’t say that is Must.

      Anyway this article is Great!

    • If you have a Google Profile, and i you use Picasa, you might want to double check your share settings on photos/videos if you’re worried about privacy.

    • Google is so INCREDIBLY keen on getting people’s wallet-names (their “social” strategy with G+) that they’re willing to compromise the search results to get it.

  2. Good article, Chris. I can imagine that the authorship markup and a Google profile will play an important role in search down the line. If this can help to pull quality content to the top, that’s okay with me.

  3. Rosalie

    absolutely NOT! I don’t want the search engines showing me what they THINK I want. I need to see all matches and decide for myself what is relevant.
    R

    • Well, you can still click though pages of results.

  4. Sidra Vitale

    This forces me to get a Google profile in order to stop potential abuse (by ‘controlling both endpoints’). Why would I want a system like that? I get that Google wants trustworthy content out there to show up in search engines, but this puts it all on me, when all I want to do, and all I should have to NEED to do, is post to my blog.

    The issue here isn’t that if I want to do this I can, but that if I don’t, I can’t just ignore it completely. It’s not all or nothing, it’s all or half. That pisses me off.

  5. And what if you let your father make a profile with his 100.000 employees company and let you use it for your freshly started one man company?

    • Google doesn’t even want more than one person to share a profile.

  6. As someone who writes about mental health topics and has the credentials required by law to guide people with such issues, I would be happy to see more attention paid to my credentials. It is annoying when I discover that someone has taken one of my articles and posted it without even stating that I am the author–never mind not including a back-link to the appropriate website as they are required to do in those cases where they even have permission to use such an article. (I have four websites—and two have a number of articles). It is also obvious from reading what some people write that they have no understanding of the different personality disorders, for example. So, it bothers me when they recieve high reanking since, I suspect, they were hoping to have high ranking sites that lead to ads that pay well–from the pharmaceutical companies and treatment centers, for instance. Well, I want to get helpful information out there to people in emotional pain–and in the case of PTSD and relationships, to promote my self-help book. Since it was designated one of the “BEST BOOKS OF 2009″ by “Library Journal,” I know I have credibility as a researcher and writer–not only as a mental health professional. So yes, I want a high ranking and would definitely prefer not be beat out by people who have taken content from people like myself and then, managed to get ranked higher because of their superior SEO knowledge. And indeed, I have talked with some other people who have put lots of effort into their work and can’t believe how it is stolen–despite copyright laws which so many obviously either don’t understand or care about. It is so disheartening. That all said, I despise searching through a bunch of junk myself. So I say, keep on keeping on, Google. However, you can skip the picture.

    • We’ve written on the topic of non experts ranking over experts a few times. It can be frustrating.

      • Another important addition from me. I believe there should be human editorial processes alongwith Google algorithms especially on health topics. There are many people “still” can rank on let’s say for example on phrase “cancer treatment methods” without any knowledge on the topic with re-write or collection of articles simply thanks to huge number of automated forum, article backlinks. Can you imagine such information with mistakes lead in important decisions of people who seek solutions to their health problems?

  7. Very good this article

    A question.

    The page needs to be written in HTML5?

    (Google tradutor)

    • From Google’s Help Center:

      Authorship markup uses the rel attribute (part of the open HTML5 standard) in links to indicate the relationship between a content page and an author page.

      • Well then when should the “rel=me” attribute come into effect because that part wasnt explained deep enough?

  8. Google continuously states that the most important thing to do to get high rankings is to create quality, unique content that people get good value from, then they go and do things like this that are totally obscure and take a bunch of knowledge and time to do- further eliminating sites that have great content, but that may not have technical knowledge.

    It’s hard enough to get other websites to publish your articles, let alone have them put a ‘rel’ attribute, a link back to your Google profile, a link to your site and a picture of you up on their site. Seems ridiculous to me. I have excellent articles all over the internet and now it seems that these articles will now have less ‘juice’ because the webmaster is certainly not going to go back and put ‘rel’ attributes on my article.

    Just another way to make websites too technical for the average person to understand and create, taking focus off of creating good content in favor of knowing technical ‘tricks’..

  9. Dave

    first thing when i watched this video was to check out Matt’s site to see if he uses it. which if you search on google for “matt cutts” you see that his profile image shows up, which means he is using it.

    maybe im missing something but this is the href he uses

    rel=”author” href=”http://www.mattcutts.com/”

    I thought it was supposed to point to his google profile?

  10. eric

    What about web design firms who don’t want competitors to track their clients, even though we can through backlinks? Will I be penalized with lower rankings because I don’t want my few clients found in my profile by bigger competitors? Can we use a logo instead of a picture (this is a question for the non-pretty people)?
    Thanks.

    • The logo instead of a pic idea might actuallt be better for branding purposes…only way to test it out is to upload your logo image where you would otherwise upload a personal pic, do all the rel linking stuff, then see if your logo shows up in search results as well as how long it stays there.

  11. As a freelance writer, author and self-publisher whose stuff is stolen all the time, I like this idea. But, the idea of Google having so much access (ie, controlling both “endpoints”) is kind of scary. It feels like you HAVE to have a Google profile in order to rank well.

    I haven’t hopped on Google+ yet, but now, it’s looking like I finally gotta get on that bandwagon.

  12. It all seems too fragmented to work on a wide scale and with a few too many contingencies. So a) you need a Google profile b) you need to use the rel=”author” attribute c) you need to have control over the source code to use the rel author attribute. So that pretty much confines it to blogs and bloggers who are aware of this. On most websites content writers aren’t the coders anyway.

    Even if all CMS manufacturers and blogging platforms take up adding authorship links as a feature wholesale, you’re still relying on people being meticulous enough to fill in these details. In reality you’ll get partial takeup and then only partial usage and the quality/trustworthiness of content will depend on algos that look at factors such as how complete someone’s Google Profile is (in a similar way that Google places operates) – that’s not an indicator of quality content, but one of either the extent someone has bought into Google+, how anal they are or how much they know about playing the system.

    Moreover, businesses bigger than one man affairs certainly don’t want their content associated with a staff member’s, or worse an external contractor’s, social media profile over which they don’t have any control.

    This has too many points of failure to be far reaching and too many risks to encourage widespread take up. In those instances where the person is the brand then fine, but they already have their credibility and trustworthiness without rel = author pointing at Google+ or whatever so the whole exercise just seems like a combination of vanity and blind optimism to me on Google’s part.

  13. I think this is an issue of privacy violation. If google goes this route, you will be ‘required’ to have a google profile and account, and you will have no control over how all personal information will be used by google (or their marketing partners). If they were willing to setup a separate ‘author’ profile, it might work, but making it a requirement for high ranking? Talk about gaming the system. It’s like holding a gun to your head. Cooperate or die.

    • But we do still have control over what we put inside our profiles and accounts ;)

  14. I really don’t like where Google is heading. First, Minneapolis has well over 4,000 restaurants but when I do a search they try filling up my screen with individual restaurants. Do they intend to list all 4,000 according to how popular they are? or maybe just the top 100 so my organic searches are buried 10-pages deep?

    Now they want my personal information to be able to “like” a particular business. I am so ready for a new SE that I started using Giga Blast, http://www.gigablast.com/.

    They really don’t seem to have enough to do at Google so they come up with crap like this. I’d like to see them get rid of Ad sites that has only minimal information and lots of frigging ads. They may have tried but it seems they are giving up and trying this to see if they can generate better results.

    Of course, there is already an industry built around this latest fiasco of Google +1 to create even more spammy websites.

  15. More manipulation from the Master Manipulator to exploit us further to increase their advertising dollars.

    This whole social media marketing is a farce as a universal way of business. It is not conducive for all industries or businesses and their customers. To think, act like and enforce it to create a cultural shift is beyond annoying.

    A better question is how can we push back to stop this nonsense?

  16. Ok, take an average person who is very good writer without any knowledge of rel=nofollow or new rel=author. Google wants everyone to become HTML tagging masters. Their aim is to fill a href links with at least 10 tags in next 5 years so that we will all spend most of our time tweaking tags instead of writing :) )

  17. I believe the way Google is trying to implement this idea into search can be useful in finding out what is credible and relevant in search. This will give credit to the specific person writing the content and make search more social.

  18. Tom

    Those bastards at Google have still not found out that the Internet is more than academic papers and personal blogs.

    Starting as an indexing service for academic papers and basing popularity on the number of times a professor was quoted got us chasing our tails to get backlinks. The result was massive internet pollution with useless link catalog sites with the only purpose of satisfying Google.

    With the emergence of blogs, they started focusing on how often pages change, how many new pages are added, and a whole range of other things that again increased the proportion of shit on the internet.

    I run a small one-man company providing services in the real world. People find me when they need me, so I do not have followers who need me to repeat myself every friggin day on a blog to get a positive impression of the service I provide. A large portion of my business is word of mouth in the real world, because my target group is between 50 and 65 years old, so very few of them have their own blogs where they would put a link to my site.

    Instead of polluting the internet, I am spending a lot of money on Google AdWords to make up for being outranked in natural results by companies that are not more honest, do not provide better service, are not more informative or customer oriented, but have the resources to kiss the ass of all the latest “fads by Google”. If I wanted better ranking it would take time away from serving my customers so it is a lower cost for me to pay Google than spending my time polluting the internet or paying someone to do it for me.

    The Google+ author preference is the latest “fad by Google” and will help those who pollute the internet to satisfy Google the most, will create extra work for those running a blog or a news site while disadvantaging everybody else who do not run a blog, a news site, or a social media site.

    Google has been on a slippery slope for a long time, because they have lost track of what people need while fortifying their position as the great dictator. Just like Google, Facebook is a necessary evil (less than 10% of my target customers have a FB profile). I am sure Facebook is busy preparing an antitrust lawsuit against Google as this whole issue is blackmailing people to buy into the Google+ thing – clear abuse of their market position.

  19. stephen

    Google should stick to content. Not who I am…What’s next? Credit reports and background check to see if you are a reliable source? Don’t laugh…It’s coming in the next year…Along with putting values on education, past job history and even if you have acceptable blogs….Watch out citizens…this is a very subtle use of your private info….

  20. Kind of a comical post…..Keep a watch on what google is doing. They have a real tendency to censorship…..

  21. I have started using the referenced features. The profile pictures show up next my website, and that profile links back to the site. Each account held has a profile. It reenforces content and context meaning. Great article as I took advantage of the G+ on my personal site to tie together the loop of information.

  22. Your authorship perhaps Google can try this themselves they are the SECRET POLICE of the Internet and NO BUDDY can talk to a REAL person at Google they are ALL Hiding under the GOOOOGLE VAIL. Claiming ” Who knows where it will go?” They want to be able to track every person on this planet and supply your INFO to the US Government FBI and home land security. The Obama Administration’s “Secret Law” to Spy on Americans http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25843

  23. What’s to stop creative, determined people from creating a profile for each niche they’re interested in, taking somebody else’s article (content) reworking it a bit, posting it under their assumed name? Oh, yeah, none of the shady characters can create a fake Google account!

    And once there are 10 people who’ve gotten all your articles and published them under their names, and the names come with a nice, trustworthy photo that doesn’t represent them, how does Google determine original author? And will it not show (at all) any of the copies?

    Perhaps Google’s at it for reasons broader than the stated ones?

    Just thinking aloud.

  24. sounds like total bs to me and more ways to try to convince people to join google+. I vote that we will never hear about this again .

  25. As far as i think, google’s this new initiative will lead to elimination of in genuine and spam content from the web or atleast from the SERP itself.

  26. Oh great, yet one more act of worship to give to the altar of Mighty G :rolleyes:

    Im guessing the wordpress plugins mentioned will take care of this though. However I am wondering if the goog profile and g+ profile are interrelated and also if the link back from goog profile counts as a powerful backlink?

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