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Panda victim blames Google Analytics glitch

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  1. I think that if Google is using their analytics data in their recipe for rankings, the least they could do is make sure the data is accurate. I’ve never agreed with the definition of bounce rate being that the visitor doesn’t click to another page. If they enter a page that has an article with information they need, they will read the information and leave, without clicking to another page. You shouldn’t get penalized for giving the visitor what they want.

    • Linda Roth

      I have about 40,000 pages on a site that used to be heavily trafficked until the Panda update of April 11, 2011. This site has been on-line since 1999. It has been an uphill struggle since April 11, then I was hit hard again on September 28. I am going to remove Google Analytics from the site to see what happens. It cannot get any worse than it is right now, and it just might improve. I’m tired of pandering to Google.

      • Johana

        i have the same problem in my site i think in the first time that google penalize my web site.
        i will test removing google annalytics from my web site.

  2. I think if any spokesperson from Google says one more time that Panda is “one of the roughly 500 changes we make to our ranking algorithms each year” I will scream. It is so obviously not like the other changes they make in a year.

    The Google spokesperson says “Each change we make goes through a process of rigorous scientific testing, and if we don’t believe that a change will help users, we won’t launch the change. “ I think that is just bullshit. Five times they have launched Panda. If NASA tried to launch a rocket five times would people class it as having been through “scientific testing”.

    And if Google believed that Panda helped users why do they have to continually update it?

    Perhaps Google should look at the way its representatives phrase what they say. They are all starting to sound like politicians . . . but then again they are starting to get acquainted with the ways of senators!

  3. Our ad words campaign suddenly went down and there have been significantly less clicks in the last week. Whether this is due to the Google algorithm, I don’t know.

  4. Ron

    We are losing traffic on our websites and even alexa ranking is all time low too.

  5. How can you ignore all of Google’s blatant, concise, clear denials of using Google Analytics data in its search ranking algorithms and say they have been historically vague?

    You have completely destroyed your journalistic credibility on this point.

  6. Chris

    Our rankings haven’t changed much in the past few months. But last month, after we moved our site to a dedicated server (around Panda 2.5 time) traffic plummeted 90% in Google Analytics. We’d very much like to know how to fix this.

  7. What about sites not using Google analytics? I winder what would happen to Panda-ized sites if they suddenly ceased using Google analytics

    • GiveSuccess

      I took my google analytics code out and saw an increase of about 5-10% on 3 sites about a month ago. I put it back last Sunday and am watching if it drops again to b4 levels.
      I had a site for sale on flippa when the traffic got cut in half so I lost $ bc site sold for cheap! :(

  8. I wonder if when will google panda update?

  9. Hugo

    Our traffic sky rocketed within the past week or so. Also, we noticed on some keywords that we ranked 12 + for several years on the SERPS, however now we are ranking within the top 6 in the SERPS for those exact keywords.

    Whatever tweak they did, it’s helped us tremendously. Also, our site has a domain-age of 10+ years, therefore I don’t think the tweak they did was favorable to newer sites etc.

    Regards,

    Hugo

    • Domain age plays a factor, but not so much when Google considers the content as the main player and things like domain age, or page age, to be more like bonus points. So in case of a tie between two pages for relevancy, Google then looks to the other signals to influence where it thinks the pages should rank.

  10. Jill

    One of our sites went from showing 1st place on Google’s results for our main keyword to being absolutely nowhere in the SERPs!!!
    I’m not sure if I’ve been pandalized because the site dropped off around the 23rd September but you can imagine the schock of going from top result with great targeted traffic to being nowhere!!!
    It could have been because our hosting priver’s servers were up and down constantly for about 10 days until i moved the site to another server. Does anyone have any idea what could have happened? I’m absolutely clueless and desperate!
    Thanks,

  11. I think panda is great, now you just have to spend 1000$ in link farms like sponsored reviews to eliminate your competition ( that’s what happened to me, now i’m out of the game )

    Negative seo companies are going to popup like crazy! Thank you google for making the internet a nasty place.

  12. We have a woodworking site that had a traffic drop of about 60% after Panda 2.5

    The site is essentially like an about.com guide site. Points out free wood plans around the web. Original content, but linking to others in every post. Might be considered a reblogger, but each post is unique. Can’t say that we didn’t expect this at a certain point.

  13. Its a Miracle

    You can recover from panda, Daniweb just did again. I’m sure she worked hard these 4-5 days to change her 300,000 pages and on Google indexed them she was algorithmically released.

  14. Not 1 website inquiry in almost 2 weeks…we even had a Yahoo “not indexed” pop up. Researching the “not indexed” issue we are not finding much about how to fix the problem…suggestions? Please leave them on our website’s contact webpage. Thanks!

  15. We have gone from most of our pages in the first 5 search pages to obscurity with no traffic at all. Come on Bing, you could fill the gap here if you could only get your BingBot sorted out. If you try to play it straight with Google then you just get creamed. I don’t know about the rest of you but I don’t want to play anymore. I no longer use Google and I’ve recomended that my customers change to Bing.

  16. Chris

    Yes, I noticed a substantial decrease in sales in the last 2 weeks of September. In fact, it’s just now starting to crawl back up.

    I have no idea if this is connected to the Panda thing or not though. I’m not loving sounding like a total non-geek, but that’s pretty much the case.

  17. I got SLAMMED with the first US Panda release and went from 10,000 visitors a day to about 2000 visitors a day despite having ROCKIN original content and something like 8 to 10 minutes time on site average per visitor. I worked for WEEKS trying to do everything I knew how to in order to ‘fix’ my site with a resulting continuing, inexorable slide in traffic.

    This Panda update maybe corrected some of their earlier problems as I saw a small but significant INCREASE in traffic. I hope it stays that way.

  18. I have noticed a significant drop in traffic. I have spent the last two days trying to figure out what is wrong with my site. There are some things that need improvement but nothing of significance that would cost my site such a reduction in traffic!

  19. I have to say this is the most bizarre thing I have come accross for a while. If I infer the DaniWeb story correctly, Panda 2.5 is actually a tweak in Google Analytics and not (assuming analytics is not part of search optimization as Google says) anything to do with search and search traffic! So in theory, if someone uses another analytics program thenthey will not notice the impact of 2.5? And if that is the case, is this not a good reason NOT to use Google Analytics? Are we (webmasters) not giving Google too much power by using Analytics which data they use to penalise us? Say if bounce rate is higher than your competitor in, then using your own data Google will rank (algorithmycally) your results lower than your competitor’s. If they never had this data in the first place, then you would rank normally.
    Bizzare indeed!

    • Its a Miracle

      Other sites that came back on July were hit too. Shows that they were actually manually exempt but that code must have been left this Panda. In other words, they would have never escaped Panda on their own.

  20. Uncle Bhjmc

    Ah hell, here we go again…

    Hi there, the man here.

    Guys, you should know better. Nothing is free. Been saying this since before Christ to my large following on BHW. Google is not your friend. Google is a psychotic b. and needs to be treated as such. It is well known they use your site analytics against you. You guys keep tripping on the same rock. Listen for once. Cancel your G+ account! Don’t login! Don’t use anything Google man! Get noscript, adblock and block G. analytics. Game G. or die. See you around…

    Love,

    Uncle Bhjmc

  21. on sept 16th my search impressions which had been steadily rising for the previous four months dropped 90%!

    i;ve been going nuts looking for a solution.

  22. Hi Chris!

    How you be? As usual your news article is in-depth and well written.

    Thanks for the update. One of my blogs is down to about 40 visits a day when a month or so ago I was averaging about 400-500 visits a day. Before that I was getting close to 1,000 hits a day. I keep going up and down :-(

    I’m just waiting to see what happens next!

  23. Slightly off topic, but related to Google’s great strides to “deliver the most relevant answers to users” …

    I find it interesting that they refuse to incorporate Facebook into their ever-growing social media integration. I get that Facebook is Google’s competitor and it’s just a matter of business, but if Google is really trying to deliver the BEST results, wouldn’t it make sense to acknowledge this social network giant? Just a thought I suppose.

  24. I suspect that Google+ is influencing results. Ultimately, as Google market share shifts to Yahoo!/Bing (4% for US in last 12 months according to recent report by Hitwise), you can bet that Google is focused on relevancy and user experience.

  25. hi,
    do you know other free site like google annalitics ?

  26. I get the feeling that another pre-Black Friday “change” will rear its ugly head too.

    Stay tuned..

  27. I’ve seen my traffic drop by 1/3 (one third). What this article is telling me is to now re-edit and lightly sprinkle all the keywords throughout my content … (stupid me I was just trying to present accurate content).
    Thanks for the tip but I think that you Google guys better re-think what change you made … you’re now losing money from my site.

  28. I have noticed a drop in traffic to my site over the last couple of weeks
    i don’t know if it is due to googles panda update or if it is because my product is seasonal and gets less demand during the fall and winter months.I wish their was a way i could tell.

  29. Panda pandemic!

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