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  1. Stewed

    I think there’s little doubt that Bing is making more and more in-roads every month when it comes to search. This deal with RIM will certainly be a step in increasing market share and if WP7 really takes off at some point, MSFT will be sitting pretty. Regardless of those things though, Bing has already been gaining some and people are becoming more and more aware of a viable competitor to Google. That awareness is more prevalent here in the U.S. but we’re starting to see signs in Europe too. As the global comminity becomes more aware of Bing and considering the quality I’ve seen in MSFT’s offering, I think Google is very likely to lost share over the next few years. Also, let’s not forget the potential of a Windows based tablet in the future that may become another avenue for MSFT to increase share.

    We’ll see how all of those things mentioned play out, but I think it would be rather foolish to deny that Bing’s potential to gain a significant market share is there. Certainly, some of the things I mentioned are still up in the air as to whether or not they catch on, but anyone should see the potential for Bing, even if some of products never become big for MSFT (I believe WP7/WP8/etc. will eventually become a player and that a viable tablet infrastructure will also catch on for MSFT at some point.)

    Bing continues to evolve and evovle very smartly in my experience. If they keep it up, I see no reason that Bing will not wield a good share of search at some point. It will be a battle and Google will attempt to do every thing they can to stem the tide. However, I find Bing to give me better results on average now and when others discover the same (Some people may not agree with that, but there will be others who do) I fully expect Bing’s growth to actually ramp up at some point, espeically globally. MSFT has made some smart moves the last year or so with Bing and the deal with RIM certainly counts among those smart moves. Plus, we can’t forget all the antitrust banter going on about Google. It’s pretty common knowledge what’s happening in Europe regarding that, but other regions and countries are also looking into antitrust claims and that includes the U.S.

    To close this all out, I just want to mention that I’m neither a Google hater/lover or MSFT hater/lover. I simply use what seems to get the job done and for me, that has become Bing more than Google. I still migrate back and forth to some degree, as I find certain things yield better results with Google, but, I find Bing consistently yields better results for me. Therefore, Bing has become the engine I use the most at this point. I think there’s room for both and others and Bing can open the door to other engines being able to compete someday. Of course, we could easily end up with a 2 horse race, but even that would be better for consumers than the 1 choice they’ve had for so long. When there’s competition, the players must than continue to evolve too keep up with each other (As we’ve seen for instance with browsers) and that usually leads to both being better and more user friendly. So, no matter which camp you decide to jump behind, it will benefit all os us if Bing gains the significant share they I see in it’s future.

    • It will be very interesting to see how Microsoft does in the tablet space, which could indeed be key.

  2. Paddy Reagan

    To me, this is just one more way Microsoft is trying to slime its way to market share when it’s unable to compete head to head. This time, however, they’ve picked a poor partner with Blackberry following Palm toward the garbage chute. This bing move won’t help. Most of the people I know resent lockout tactics. Search is a low interest topic–IE, not something that requires change. In that regard, I’ll keep Googling and the only Bing I’ll care about sings White Christmas.

    • sl

      Bing is definitely the future. We will see a very different picture in search by the end of year.

      • Peter

        are you willing to bet your life on that? :)

    • As you say, search is a low interest topic – could be why many BlackBerry users won’t care if Bing is their default search engine.

  3. I’m not sure if Bing will every actually surpass Google but it’s definitely going to make things interesting. Personally, Bing isn’t my search engine of choice. Google still ranks #1 for me. However, things may change in the future.

  4. Mark Lane

    Bing became my search engine of choice last March after the last Google algo change. I find that Bing provides more relevant organic results and more of those results show above the fold. The Google algo change has delivered less relevant results for me personally, but most important, they tend to jam add content above the fold now…and the add content is looking more and more like organic content…very deceptive. For some searches (e.g., Cargo Carrier), there is an 11 to 1 ratio of ads vs organic above the fold.

    As long as Bing doesn’t fall prey to the same vices that Google has, it will continue to gain market share. My advice to Google is to go back to the days where you focused on delivering quality, relevant content vs. paid ads.

    • VG

      Funny, you say that about the algo change. I never mentioned this in my comment below, but this is exactly what I noticed too. It’s only after this that Bing results began to catch up/even beat Google results. I think Google screwed a perfectly good thing.

    • That’s a great point actually, I am finding Google more and more annoying to look at, above the fold its jammed with ads and places listings, it’s just messy to look at!

  5. Never! Not in my lifetime! Becaue Microsoft does just copies something else! Bing probably came from Google!

  6. Umm, nope. All Bing has going for it a billion dollars worth of marketing campaigns. What they’d need to catch Google is an engine that provides some sort of improvement in search results. A feat which I do not believe MS is capable of.

    • Peter

      I don’t think it’s a technological issue. They could easily do the same kind of search as Google. Their problem is,… then it would be Google.

      So they have to be different, and that means less good because at the moment, Google leads and in the land of search they will keep this up for a good long time to come.

      It’s not like Google is perfect either. In areas as social networks, Google sucks. There it is facebook that leads and it won’t matter what Google does, they’ll never be a leader in social networking. Social networking is not what Google is, just like search is not what Microsoft is.

      Google was able to take over the smartphone world. Why? Because it’s new. All players have equal chances and Google is winning this battle. The main reason being that they started caring about smartphones a long time ago, long before the others and,.. perhaps more importantly, they don’t have the legacy of an old system.

    • I won’t underestimate the importance of having quality results, but I wouldn’t underestimate the power of a large marketing budget either.

      • Agreed Chris,

        I’m still a fan of Google but if MS play their cards right and really utilize social signals in their ranking algos they could surpass the quality of Google’s results quite easily if it’s done right…

  7. There was lots of uproar when the microsoft internet explorer held a monopoly and finally fire fox rose in usage by internet users. It is time that the same thing happens with search engines. Google has had an unhealthy monopoly over the search engine market and the healthiest thing that could happen is that strong competition from Bing rises to the occasion and becomes an equal to Google. This would be a day of rejoicing.

  8. VG

    Like most other people I have been a fan of Google search because of its accuracy. I am also fond of Microsoft since all my work is on their platform. It is in my self-interest to see them succeed. So I have been giving Bing a go periodically. Each time I would switched back to Google because I continued to find it so much better. On my most recent switch to Bing – a week back – I was relieved. I don’t think there is a significant difference between it and Google anymore. I have stayed with Bing and not suffered much of an impact at work. Google should be concerned.

  9. Peter

    I always was a Nokia Fan….. and then they decided to go with Windows on their phones. #$%##%$@#@%$#%$#$% So now I am an Android fan. In hardware it doesn’t really make that much difference anymore anyway. Nokia lost its advantage there. Smartphone are hardware, but it is the software that makes the difference now a days.

    Why on earth people even want to consider Bing and Windows over Google and Android I will probably never understand. It’s not like I am a Google fan till death (I decided against Nokia the moment they weren’t the best anymore), but why would somebody want “mediocre” if “great” costs the same.

    Blackberry phones,…. why are those so popular?

    …….
    …….

    ah yes, of course, just like Iphone people: Fashion! People tend to buy things that make a fashion statement. What their phone says about them is more important than what they can say about their phone.

    :)

    • VG

      I am carrying around a Samsung Intercept. Let’s talk in a month’s time, after you have discovered how shoddy the Android experience it. Cannot compare it to Windows Phone because I haven’t used it. But I have handled iPhone extensively, and Android does not even come

      • VG

        [Sorry, didn't get to finish the comment...]
        I am carrying around a Samsung Intercept. Let’s talk in a month’s time, after you have discovered how shoddy the Android experience it. Cannot compare it to Windows Phone because I haven’t used it. But I have handled iPhone extensively, and Android is nothing more than a truly shoddy clone of it. Where Android grates is in the extremely iffy touch/tap/swipe interaction. Some things became worse after I upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 – like switching between Landscape and Portrait mode. There’s only two kinds of people who will stick with Android – the devoted open source community; and those with extreme prejudice against Apple/Microsoft. You don’t seem to belong to either camp so I guess you have not been with Android for long.

  10. Ah “WebProNews” one of my favorite sites.
    If Bing pushes add content above accuracy and simplicity of search, then they are doomed. The mistake Google is making now, as was mentioned in a previous comment. Search as we know it is evolving and standard method of add revenue models will have to change to be competitive in the long run. The search provider has little time to relay the proper info of relevant sites to the consumer. If they smother you with add copy then the searcher will go someplace else. Bings relevance to providing a richer experience will help it steal market share from Google.

  11. I “Google” and not “Bing” even once the last six months.
    Foe the same reason most users are still entrenched in IE6, most users will still predominantly use Google as far as Search is concerned.
    We know what happens whenever Microsoft dominates a market: stagnation.

  12. Since the (re)launch of Bing, there has been vast improvements with that search engine. However, I still consistently receive more relevant results through Google.

    • I think a more interesting story will be Baidu vs Google if Baidu ever decides to go global.

        • Stewed

          It’s funny that some people won’t give Bing a try simply for some personal, vendetta type reasons against MSFT. You know the ones I’m talking about: I’ll never try Bing; I hate Microsoft; Microsoft is evil; blah, blah, blah and etc. Why is it funny? Well, that’s simple really. It’s funny because they seem to think by helping create another monopoly, that new monopoly will somehow do things better than MSFT did. I’ve got news the people who think that way: When a company becomes the only game in town, that’s when innovation, creativity and useful updates get stifled. Think about it for a minute. We’ve seen a lot of changes from Google over the last year plus and many of those changes can be attibuted to either keeping Bing down or equal features offered on Bing. It’s certainly anyone’s opinion as to whether or not those changes have been good ones, but they’ve been implemented none the less. Do you really think Google is going to spend any kind of time keeping the search at the forefront if there’s no competition? I’ll answer that for you. The answer is no. Especially with all the other markets that they’re trying to get into or gain ground in. It’s easy to look innovative and creative when you’re trying to catch up, but companies rarely, if ever, put that same effort in when they have no competition in a market. Why spend time and resources on anything that you’re the only game in town in? If you really believe somehow Apple, Google, etc. are somehow immune to the stagnation that MSFT went through than you are truly some naive people my friends. They look cool and creative now, because they’re playing catchup in so many arenas and there’s a healthy level of competition on those arenas. Let them gain control the way MSFT did, for the periods of time they did and the tale will be exactly the same. Some new glamour company will come around at some point and these same people will lambast the ones they helped create and praise everything the new player does. That’s the cycle and it will continue. Your favorites now could very easily be the evil giant you hate so much in the future.

          Personally, I try my best to give any product or company a shot before blasting everything they do. I also try not to let bias get in the way of common sense. I’m not always successful probably, but at least I make an effort. The reasons I mentioned above is a big part of that reasoning too. I know that Apple, Google or any other current or future player will be no better if they become the only game in town. That’s why I root for no company really and hate none either. If they put something on the market that looks good, I’ll give it a go. Even if it doesn’t compete initially, if it looks promising, I’ll revisit the product in the future. And yes, that includes products from a company that may have become somewhat stagnant and is now trying to play a little catchup because of some new healthy competition. The rest of you can do as you like, but I’ll not miss out on what could be a great product simply because I’m to petty or blind to see it.

          I hope what we see is Google and Bing both being players and maybe some others will come along as well. If we see that, we’ll see a better eperinece for all. I’m happy to see the new players in mobile and I’ll have no problem is MSFT joins that group again with improved products because of the competition. I’l be happy if they put a competitive tablet OS out there too. Just like seeing MSFT making improvements, I’m also happy to see some competiton starting in the OS market. Apple is gaining and Linux has more of a presence than a lot of people realize, maybe even Chrome will gain some share to. Either way, the drop in Windows users, albeit a slow one, will motivate MSFT to make Windows better too and I’m very ok with that. That what competition does. companies aren’t evil or good, they’re simply bodies trying to make as much as they can. Even open source stuff may change completely if they gain a very healthy market share, because one things for certain: Things tend to quit being free and open when there’s a lot of money to be made. Once again, anyone who thinks otherwise is very naive and has a lot to learn about how things truly work in this world.

      • Juan Sierra

        You’ve gotta be kidding. That is a vulgar copy of google

        • Kamakshi Sri

          No Juan,Stewed seems to be too rational and I am damn sure that that is what we are going to follow soon. We really do not have any personal liking for any SE we want relevant results for our query. We want what we want, irrespective of who delivers it. We may for a time stick to but may not afford it in the long run.

  13. Ryan Kempf

    I don’t think so just for the fact that Google is bigger and indexes more pages

  14. I think that Bing can give tough time to Google, but in the long scenario, it cannot compete with Google giant as it has much more resources than Bing or Microsoft or whatever their collaboration have.

  15. Art

    Did IE catch Netscape?
    Did Word catch Wordperfect?

    It may be beyond expectations, but be ready!

    • sl

      When I started my first job, there was a debate of using Delphi or Visial Studio. The guy in charge decided on Delphi, in 2000. Everyone know what is Delphi now?

      When I learned SQL Server(6.5), people were in rush for Oracle. They never give a thought to SQL Server. 3 years later i end up converting Oracle application to SQL Server.

      Just three years ago, everyone were saying msft was wasting money on XBox. They don’t that anymore.

      One year ago, everyone say, msft is too late for the cloud computing wave. It will eat into microsoft bottom line. Today, msft is absolutely front runner in cloud computing.

      Three years ago, everyone say netbook threaten msft because 90% of them runs Linux. Today, you don’t Linux anymore.

      Today, everyone is saying microsoft is too late in mobile. again, msft is in danger. I say, Windows Phone will be #1 OS by end of 2012. This time I bet my life on it. I say Windows 8 will dominate tablet market by end of 2012, I bet my lift on it.

  16. People still use blackberries? Who cares about the deal with RIM.

    • john hockler

      Not in our lifetime. Google is a verb; that’s pretty much all we need to know. When someone is at a computer they will use google. Who really uses search on a smart phone anyway?

      • You’d be surprised how many people search from their smart phones, I saw some recent stats in an article, think it was WPN, anyway, it’s getting used a lot more than you’d think!

  17. A big marketing budget can make a huge difference. Just look what happened when Microsoft released IE and knocked off Netscape (which at the time had a huge market share).

    Admittedly, Google is not a Netscape as their fingers are in so many different pies.

    I think Bing will make some inroads, but I can’t ever see it overtaking Google as the dominant search engine.

  18. Very good points but they all have flaws. For example, bing partners with nokia and rimm. Is that because android has taken over their market shares? probably. I think android has grown faster than bing has with addition of blackberry and nokia. When was the last time you saw someone on the internet with a nokia phone?

    Bing buys tv commercials. Google doesn’t have to. In fact, bing is loosing tons of money. While google is obviously profitable.

    Bing partners with yahoo. If bing was to grow they would have to lose that partnership or the ftc would be all over them (again).

    Let’s face it. The reason soo many people are going from windows to apple and soon chrome is because everyone hates Microsoft. How is Bing going to catch Google if people can’t stand Microsoft.

    • Sam

      People can’t stand Microsoft or “you” can’t stand Microsoft? People who hate Microsoft are a minority and all are techies. Majority of computer, phone users don’t even know there is an issue with Windows, Microsoft or whether Apple is an OS. They couldn’t care less. It’s common sense. Microsoft hating is so 90s. Google is the new Microsoft.

  19. Bing will never catch Google.
    Google has 84% of the world market share, and Bing has 4%. Go figure. Google’s core business is ads from search. Microsoft’s core business is selling software.
    There is the problem. Search is not the most important thing to Microsoft, but it is to Google.
    Bing may be the default search engine on all Blackberry’s, but how fast can to reset that to Google? Out of the box or the first time you don’t like the search results? Take your pick.

  20. It might be Bing for portable devices, and Google for laptops and desktops.

    I think that Bing’s partnership with Facebook will really help it. Now, for Bing to really become the SE of choice, I think that they’ll have to use FB to train a new generation of young people to use Bing as their default search engine. Then, maybe Bing will take over.

    But I do think that, indeed, Bing is catching up.

  21. Sam

    I sure hope they catch up! I’m rooting for Bing. Google has become a joke. I don’t think Google will be around for too long. They are in self-destruction mode.

  22. The key is to control the medium people are using to access the internet. Microsoft aren’t new to this ofcouse having dominated the web browser market in the 90′s. Seems the “if it ain’t broke…” approach could work for them again. Although I’ve yet to hear anyone saying “hey let’s Bing it” – Just sayin’

  23. I have try bing and it seems to force itself with graphics that most of the times I don’t like, google give you a choice, bing force you to their choices, I sense a dictatorship on bing and freedom in google. No thanks, I keep google as my main search engine.

  24. For the short term I don’t see them catching up but they are definitely going the right way about it and I think at some point in the future they will control a considerable share of the search market. I’d love to see a peek of the future in about 18 months time, could be quite interesting.

  25. I checked Bing search out just the other day and was very impressed with the change over the past year, since i checked them out last.

    They can catch up to Google if they stay focused and determined. google is great but I am not that happy with the latest changes. I think I have just become so used to using Google, it’s hard to get used to anything different.

  26. Steve

    Bing is such a rubbish search engine. I cant believe that its gaining market share.

    Bing still has major indexing issues with sites randomly disappearing out of the index and .com.au sites not being ranked as Australian sites. These same sites have no problems in Google and rank well there.

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  28. i think there is no chance preferable i use Google as my search never tried it and like me there are lot will not go to it

    • me

      i love bing!
      i spent a decade using google and now done with it.
      bing suits Win7 so much better too – just visually, it’s a much ‘prettier’ webpage… :)

  29. I really hope that BING catches up. Google is acting like a “GOD” of the internet these days.

    They just need to improve on their algo..

    • Never say never but I am sure Bing will Hurt Google , But lets face it bing has no depth that google has in the rest of its offerings. Bing is about money …so is google but at least they add value with products like gmail, Google apps, Apps for education, ect

  30. I hope Bing catches Google. There have a chance to do it. Nothing is impossible!

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