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The controversy surrounding New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has shed light (a red light) on a number of underground activities. Besides government corruption and the sex trade in general, Spitzer's use of the Internet to connect with prostitutes is exposing a huge industry with which people may not be familiar.
Or even know exists.
The online escort/call girl/"model"/prostitute scene isn't so hard to find, though. Just use Google. If the organic results don't fit what you're looking for, AdWords can help, too.
The truth is, investigating this scene is much like investigating the adult entertainment scene. The breadth, depth, and scope of prostitution available via online booking is staggering, indicating that just like the online porn industry, sex trade is not just a huge industry, but one that employs cutting edge marketing techniques, and one that apparently is thriving.
Just Google It
It's unclear at this point exactly how Governor Spitzer was referred to the Emperor's Club website. But if he's a self-starter, he could have used a search engine like Google. A search for [new york call girls] for example brings up a host of relevant organic links, most of which seem to be news article related.
The sponsored links, though, are another story. Sponsored results for these keywords brought back websites like BadGurlModels (screen shots will be provided but no links), HourGirl, and a site advertising "full service" $50 half-hours and $100 hours. Full-service is, according to research, code for you-know-what.
Similar results came back for [full service escorts] and [ny gfe]. "GFE" is another code meaning "girlfriend experience," which means the escort is open to certain things like kissing and other "girlfriend"-type activities. [ny gfe] brought 491,000 results in Google, along with their very own targeted ads.
Not all incarnations of the word "prostitute" work, by the way. A search for "whore," for example, brings back a myriad other results. Apparently the connotation of that word has changed a bit.
It would be impossible to explore every website offering some kind of escort service, and many of them seem to have shut down since the revelation about Governor Eliot, including the Emperor's Club website he used. But perusing some of them reveals details that would be mundane if talking about any other business.
When people think of prostitution, they generally think of street-walkers with cash-only policies. The 21st Century, though, brings change to the world's oldest profession, too. Visitations can be booked with cash or credit. There is often a registration process for potential clients, or a requirement that the client participate in a screening process. One escort requested that clients specify ethnicity when booking.
Some have model-recruitment programs, and offer $250 per referral, payable after the "model's" third successful appointment.
Some offer discounts for daytime appointments. Others have senior citizen discounts.
Though some are pretty up-front about what they offer, the more cautious ones provide a legal disclaimer, that usually is worded something like this:
Payment is for companionship only. Anything outside this is a matter between two or more consenting adults. This is not an offer of prostitution.
Regardless, that "companionship" and anything a client can talk her into usually has a flat-pricing model, with hourly rates ranging from $150 to $3,600. Just like in the brick-and-mortar world, some places of business are more of the Wal-Mart variety, while others cater to a more, well, selective clientele.
Some of the more expensive ones put some of that money toward very high-tech, 007-type surveillance equipment that allows them to watch whomever might be watching them.
A Virtual Smorgasbord
Governor Spitzer obviously had a certain taste: prostitutes he could take to Washington on important visits that didn't look like a prostitute and could provide him confidence that she would exercise her right to remain silent. There are more expensive women than $4,300 for two hours, but he is a government employee at the end of the day.
If money is no object, a fat-walleted client can choose from a menu of women on sites similar to the Emperor's Club, some with the same diamond-rating system. A seven-diamond lady, if paying by credit card, will run about $3,600 per hour. If paying by cash, a client can get a $600 per hour discount. If he wants to weed out the less expensive, less exclusive women, he can run a more specific search for [high class call girls] or [high class escorts] and Google will bring him back what he is looking for, thanks to some good SEO and SEM.
With the Internet, though, choices aren't limited to the New York area (NYC though is some kind of high-class call girl mecca) or to one type, or even to just two genders. Options are available anywhere one might travel: Los Angeles, Denver, Atlanta, Chicago, or Las Vegas. Admittedly, given the legal status of prostitution in Nevada, Las Vegas is a degree less shocking.
Flying to London, France, Italy, Romania, or Czech Republic? No problem. Thailand or the Philippines? The Internet has John covered.
Approaches are notably different in the southern United States than in New York. Websites devoted to southern escorts appear to be more up-front with what is offered via easily-deciphered code language. Thanks goes out to UrbanDictionary.com for help with the decoding. Many of their websites, though, are no longer online.
Southern escorts don't have "rates," by the way, but they do accept donations, and are happy to post the types of gifts they enjoy.
One, for example, expressed a liking for World War II memorabilia.
All of these options too Anglo? Again, no problem. There are websites devoted to every ethnicity. One Asian escort website promised "new girls every two weeks" as though they had regular shipments of "product."
Prostitution 2.0
If all of this isn't surprising enough, some of the thousands of websites are well ahead of the online marketing game and employ just about every avenue at their disposal. The sites are very well designed, some very expensive looking. The more expensive ones employ the right blend of Flash and text.
Many have blogs and interactive calendars. Some are portals. Many are set up like social networks where clients are treated as "friends" who refer other "friends." In fact, many are reference-based only, which makes one wonder if Spitzer was referred by someone, or if his name-recognition got him a free (and perhaps nerve-wracking) pass. Then again, he's been reportedly participating for ten years, before these sites became so sophisticated. Maybe he was a usenet guy.
One site was set up exactly like a traditional dating site, an eHarmony for hookers. It boasted 2,800 direct phone numbers for registered members.
And then there are the niche-industry players, the support-industry. Some websites specialize in escort web-design, and judging by the quality of some of the sites, there's a decent market for it. Some of these offered free websites for escorts, as though part of an affiliate marketing program.
The websites are heavily SEO'ed to make them appear in the top ten results for certain queries, which makes one wonder how involved the SEO business is with the online escort scene, especially when the branding efforts are sophisticated enough to include paid search result complements.
They also haven't forgotten to make use of local search engines and mapping services. Just for one example, you can check out prostitute blogger College CallGirl's guide to New York City sex hotels on GridSkipper.
What Now?
Well, one thing we know: As long as there are clients willing to pay and entrepreneurs willing to provide, this industry isn't going away. So the industry itself is probably not in trouble.
Spitzer probably wishes the same could be said for him, since he has resigned. As for orchestrated online marketing campaigns for the sex trade, or activities that could be construed as the sex trade, it is unknowable at this point if a crackdown would be likely, possible, or fruitful.
It could be, maybe, at least temporarily, until they pop up again "under new management." One other thing we know: Other "underground" heavily marketed products, like pharmaceuticals, illicit drugs, etc., are not quite so sophisticated or up-to-date in their online campaigns. Some illegal markets are pretty heavily masked and much more clandestine and difficult to find.
The sites we found, not all of which claim directly to be prostitution sites, are not so careful, and in fact are very much designed for anyone to find them. We found via search. They have put a lot of effort and money into online marketing and seem to have mastered every element from site design, to search marketing, to social media, to vertical search and mapping.
And that's, well, pretty blatant.
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Comments
Call girls ain't worst
Call girls ain't worst things you can find via google, how bout homemade explosives?
Thanks you! your code is
Thanks you! your code is very useful & help me a lot ... thanks ya.....
I am married and have paid
I am married and have paid for a high dollar call girl model services while traveling to the sum of 2,300 per hour and although it was an enjoyable experience I could have received the same satisfaction using my hand and saving a few bucks. This girl that Governor Spitzer was with would have been well worth the high dollar amount
Prostitution online
The oldest profession and the newest technology, who could have seen that coming - pun intended.
Irrespective of your views on the morality of prostitution it certainly should be clear to anyone that's paying attention that this is one "practice" which simply isn't going away.
It's an old argument but one that needs to be made. While every effort has been and is still being made to prevent it, somehow none of those efforts seem to work. The fact that every few years there's another prostitution scandal involving public officials or celebrities simply points to that fact.
I don't endorse the practice and would never condone it. I have three adult children, two daughters and a son as well as five grandkids, including three grand daughters. If any of them chose to become "sex workers" it would give me tremendous concern.
Having said that I would still love them and care for them without being judgemental or morally repulsed. It is often said that love conquers all, and in this case as with all others, it's my feeling that love and understanding which is required not condemation.
Christian values are often held out as being the guide by which we navigate such difficult moral issues. It was after all Jesus who is quoted as saying "let he who are without sin cast the first stone".
Perhaps it is time to put down the stones and find another way.
Marvin - I couldn't have put
Marvin - I couldn't have put it better myself. Just wanted to chime a chord with you there. I'm in my early thirties by the way, and have a 7 year-old daughter.
I personally am not surprised at all that SEO/SEM has reached this industry as it has always been good at 'marketing' itself in varying degrees of subtlety. You don't even need to do 'research' to find these references, either, which is perhaps more concerning. Since I don't choose to record all these instances I cannot quote one now, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has typed an innocent search phrase and come up with some fairly saucy results!
At the end of the day it's (mostly) a free world which means the sex trade can make themselves known to people looking for them in the same way as any other trade can. I'm also sure there are some SEO pros who are delighted to specialise in this area...
Web Prostitution
Let's get one thing clear. I'm also hearing this among the cable talking heads and Internet fishwraps with regards to prostitution, legal or illegal in Nevada.
Prostitution is ILLEGAL in Las Vegas. It is ILLEGAL in Clark County, where Las Vegas is located. Prostitution is also ILLEGAL in Reno, Lake Tahoe (NV side) and Carson City. It is ILLEGAL in Washoe County where these cities reside.
Prostitution is LEGAL in Nevada where counties allow it. Las Vegas, has made attempts by the city to curb street and massage parlor prostitution. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the casino consierge's have their own stable of working girls available to the "whales" (high rollers) who want a little companionship.
The counties that do allow legal prostitution are regulated by the county. Extensive background checks are conducted, you must have a working ID card from the county sheriff's department to work inside of a legal brothel. If you have a felony conviction, you can't work in a legal brothel. If you are under 18, you can't work.
Brothel owners pay a huge license fee to operate a legal brothel in that county and a portion of the profits are paid back to the county. The legal prostitution trade operates in buildings zoned by the county. The Ladies in these counties aren't working the street. They work in the house.
The Ladies have to pass a medical clearance before they can work in the house. The customer's also have to pass what is called a DC (d*ck inspection) and latex condoms must be worn. No exceptions. By Nevada law, transactions cannot be conducted over the phone or Internet (email). Face to face in the houses only.
For the past 4 years, my friend, Gary and I have been operating nevadabrotheltimes.com, a e-zine-messageboard-website promoting Legal Prostitution in Nevada, commonly referred to as LPIN. This is where people can get the straight answers to legal prostitiution in Nevada and not the straight scoop that you see on HBO's Cat House. We are not afilliated with any legal house and you won't find any mindless banter on our site either. It's free to read and if you wish to post, you need to register which is also free. According to Netcraft, we're in the Top 50k websites.
I've been operating my own adult website, separate from NevadaBrothelTimesand despite efforts from the Federal government to curtail the adult entertainment industry, we just stay one step ahead of the game. If there's a new law, we'll find a way around it. Many wholesale sites have attorneys available to consult with (for a fee) who specialize in adult entertainment.
Prostitution is regarded as the world's oldest profession and sites that offer adult entertainment or sex will always be here. It's a comodity of supply and demand. I find it entertaining and ironic that the anti-sex squares go off on a rant, yet who gets "what" caught in the nookie jar.
Hi... A TriUnity distributor from N.Y. here!
More positive things to do.
Much rather focus on building THIS BUSINESS and help others do the same than focus on things we can do nothing about!
Just a thought.
Blatant?
Internet gave the power to independents to present themselves in any manner they see fit, advertise, screen clients and have complete control over what they are doing. I seriously doubt that escorts of pre-internet era had similar options and most likely had to rely on agencies.
With agencies or a strict referral system, a woman had a much more limited exposure to potential clients reducing her choices. Now, she can pick and choose if she wants to. The ease of transitioning in and out of sex work has also increased - unlike one of the previous posters, most women I know are educated, ambitious and pursue day-time careers, using sex work as a side only. If you post photos with a cropped out face and don't share much personal info on the site, chances that somebody in your other life may recognize you are minimal. I don't know if this result could be accomplished without open advertising and search engine optimization.
It also gave us voice. There is a number of sex work rights organizations, blogs and places for intelligent and educational commentary. A tool to fight for social change and acceptance, a way to organize and communicate. And that, I suppose, may appear blatant to those with no familiarity with our world.
In another way it gets back
In another way it gets back to a time when other TLDs (Top Level Domain) were debated to filter types of domains. The argument stemmed mostly around decency on the net.
I don't know of any example but like having a phone number close to that of a whore house, or living next door to one. I expect some domain names and sites when queried in the SEO fashion might have a slightly different result than what was intended.
In a competitive market one could collude and mimic a web site (affiliate)to closely resemble your competitors "goods" and sink them like a whore on steroids.
The truth...... from the whorse's mouth
I am an internet prostitute. Not one of the "fancy" ones like the govenor had, but a lower priced model working on Craigslist.
Internet prostitution exists in every city or town, in every price range, involving women to suit any taste. You can find escorts offering services for $50 all the way up to $15,000. The vast magority are in the range of $125 to $400..... at least here in CA anyway.
We use the internet as an alternative to walking the streets or turning over a huge percentage of our earnings to agencies and pimps. For the most part, it is safe. Every once in a while you hear of a girl getting hurt by a john, but not very often. A threat that is much more real is that of a pimp posing as a customer, making an appointment, then coming to rob and rape you. So most of us working girls (the smart ones anyway) refuse to see black guys..... seeing that this is the most reliable way of avoiding pimps. And yes, it works. Maybe we are losing out on the "good" black guys out there, but with such a disproportionate ratio of good vs bad, it's an acceptable loss.
Most girls are 'condom only' providers. We understand that HIV is a very real threat and we don't want to get it. There are some girls that will provide a BBBJ (bare back BJ), but most would rather not take the chance. My theory is that if a girl is willing to take risks with HIV, either she doesn't know, she doesn't care, or she ALREADY HAS IT. And yes, there are girls who are HIV positive and still working. I know of only one, but there are many many more.
No girl grows up thinking she wants to be a prostitute. We end up here because we have no other (viable) way to earn a living. We have no education and no skills.... so what else are we going to do? We use our bodies instead of our minds. We all have secondary reasons as well. Some girls have kids to support, some have drug addictions, some are co-dependant on an abusive boyfriend. But NO girl does this because she likes it.
The guys that come to see us range from total woman-hating jerks to very shy and socially immature. The vast majority are just decent guys (I say decent..... not "good") who are either married unhappily or are just plain horny. A few of the gentlemen are true angels and end up pulling their favorate woman out of the business entirely..... but of course no girl should depend on that!
We often start out as strippers, then for some reason (like drugs or age), progress to prostitution. There are also a lot of immigrants (Asian, Russian and Mexican) who VOLUNTARILY work as prostitutes (the whole "white slavery" thing is a lie made up by fanatic christians out to save the world) in order to live a better life. Not all prostitues are created equal. many are not real prostitues at all, but are theives who just steal the money from their johns and then leave them hanging. If you choose to dabble, you should know where you are going.
There is much much more to say about internet prostitution, but I could go on and on. In closing, I may be a prostitute.... but judge not lest ye be judged. Just as you are more than your job, I too am more than mine.
Ma'am, you say that
Ma'am, you say that internet prostitutes like you go into prostitution because there is no other way for you to make money...
Yet in order to have this kind of business advertised and marketed online you must have sone knowledge of.. online advertising and marketing.
Which means that you could work for any number of companies that has products or services you could sell as an independent contractor. I.e. Affiliate marketing.
However, it should be noted that despite all the website/advertising/SEM/SEO skills these folks seem to have, they make a decision to NOT go into any other field.
Methinks the tax free money is to good for you to give up in order to switch careers. Am I hitting the nail on the head here? Or am I far off the mark?
Damn
Whatta hell? Am I at webpronews or at Mary's in downtown Portland?
Jason, whatta hell you boy started here? What does this has to do with them hard drives, google, microsoft, and 0s and 1s son? You running for NY governor? LOL! Jason for governator! Hat and everything.
Clay Feet
The hype concerning Governor Spitzer is understandable given it is recent news that concerns a high political person. However, this is not surprising in the sense that power and sex are correlated. That is people in power tend to have higher sex drives. Freud associated the sex drive with Eros the God of Love, as in Greek myths that provides an unconscious drive. Jung proposed that human psychology is concerned with unconscious archetypes, which influence us, so that the sex drive is associated with these archetypes that form complexes in consciousness.
Thereby, those in political power have more difficulty in controlling their sex drive. For example how many times has Reverend Jimmy Swaggart apologized to his Louisiana District of the Assemblies of God, and his Bible College, as well as the public for his many encounters with prostitutes? His inability to control his behavior is evidence of his powerful sex drive, in this case associated with power over his congregation, and vast religious affiliations.
Many other examples come to mind in both the religious, and political arenas that would require a treatise that sex and power are strongly correlated. Also, recall the truism, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
It's debatable whether Freud
It's debatable whether Freud and Jung and all of psychiatry are frauds. Have you ever seen a mental health doctor take a CAT scan of your brain? Where's there evidence? Have they ever cured anyone? No. Only callahan field therapy, related to kinesthesiology, has ever cured anyone of a mental illness. You can have a greater sex drive by taking ginseng, zinc, damiana, or yohimbe bark.
interesting topic
I saw on Discovery Channel a few years back researchers studying the brain via imaging and via the chemicals that were released. They concluded something kind of astonishing: creativity, sexuality, and spirituality all seemed to come from the same area of the brain...or that while one of these three things were active, the same area of the brain lit up.
That little bit of information just blew my mind. It makes me wonder then, if the three are connected in a such a way that if there is a perceived abundance of one, there might be a perceived abundance of the others. This could explain a few dastardly ministers in recent history, or why actresses seem a little freer than others...though that is all pure conjecture...
It could be, perhaps has to be, something very evolutionary or something very interestingly designed, if you believe that sort of thing...
The power and sex relationship is also interesting...but that may be that with power, all things are in reach...worse, power entitles us (humans) to all things within reach...ministers have a certain amount of power, too...
I'm riffing here, so please don't take anything I say as absolute, but something else occurs to me. At a cattle auction once, I watched as nervous cows succumbed to nervous humping, kind of a "this is it" kind of thing...that's probably my interpretation...but I wonder if when under extreme stress, like the types of stress those in leadership are under, if they view sex as an outlet, a way to control surroundings that are out of control, and as a way to justify their command of those surroundings.
All that, and my conspiratorial side doesn't buy it that the feds targeted Spitzer by accident. Of all the dirty politicians and all the call-girls around Washington, why Spitzer? Probably b/c he was gumming up the works with all that justice...
But you didn't hear that from me. :-) And I can't prove a word of it. Just riffing, like I said.
Update 10:17 PM Funny I said that there at the end...read this before something mysterious and tragic happens to this guy:
http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot-spitzer-gets-nailed/
Maybe there's more to this than the press is letting us know
The Fangs Come out...
Good Lord, write a post to provide information for people and all they want to do is tear you apart, Miss English 101. Don't you have anything better to do? I enjoyed the article and DID see "the SEO connection" for the person who asked what it had to do with it. (And it wasn't a stretch!) I worry constantly abt my site content as far as Google is concerned and yet they accept sponsored ads from sites advertising illegal activities? That was the shocking part for me. People, whether an action is morally right or wrong is between people and God but the Law is not subject to those judgements, only the law. (And prostitution is illegal regardless of how long it has been around, etc.) He participated in an illegal activity and as one in a position of proscecuting those who have broken the law he should be held to the highest of standards. He should be proscecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The end on that one for me. Back to the point of the article...SEO. I am not shocked that Google has already covered it's tracks on this one and I am sure they wasted no time in alerting their legal team to CYA. Thanks for the article and as someone who also makes typo errors, no biggie there. Some of these people really are anal and unfortunately missed the entire point you were attempting to make. Too bad.
SEO Connection
Umm...yeah some of these people completely missed the point to this post...which is of course SEO. I don't understand why Google accepts sponsored ads from sites advertising illegal activities either. Doesn't make much sense to me....actually it does - MONEY ! (Didn't know that call girls were reading up on optimizing their site either.)
thanks
Way to go, stupid! Are reporters the real whores?
Way to go stupid! Your article leads the lonely sheep right to the edge of the cliff. Who are the real whores, who sellout propriety for prosperity, Go ahead join the nit wit pundits, beat this dead horse.
Better yet use your God given sense. speak of solutions. I know the problems already.
Listen Jason Kid.
Listen Jason kid, I might be 70 years old but by god my fists are pretty active. Jason, have you ever had a good ole country ass whooping? Maybe that's what we was needing out of you son. Don't mess with us old folks: See this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=h3J_qB7daq4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BjkPwN_v_yc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FxKaB5EIxVg
you make me smile
You surprise me
Nothing about this article is surprising, except the comment, " Did you know that some of these sites offer senior citizen discounts? Ew. "
Well, you thirty-somethng ageist idiot, the actual truth is that prostitution is everywhere. People that want sex are everywhere and every age. One day, you too will be in your so called "senior years," and I sincerely wish that your little "Ew" of judgement will haunt you for the rest of your life.
Sex is ephemeral, the internet is forever.
a little extreme, don't you think?
Actually, I have no opinion on the matter. As for "ew." Sorry if you were offended. It's not that old people have sex, it's the shock that these places are run like any other business: daytime discounts, sr. citizen discounts...i found out that in australia, where it's legal, they have free giveaways.
All of that just seems kind of icky. But I do hope I'm still, ahem, "loveable" in the words of the Beattles, "when I'm 64."
Which Paul McCartney is, I believe, and probably still...well...never mind.
As for your sincere wish, I think that was kind of extreme, and I'm happy to inform you that past this conversation nothing will haunt me. Your judgment came swifter than mine.
Sometimes, as is the case with Spitzer, it's often the guy yelling the loudest about something. Or as we used to say in grade school: The smeller's the feller.
But above all I guess, we learn that sense of humor is not universal.
Sex And Power
Too much money spent by mr. Spitzer on those call girls, I did what you said in Google and found places where you`d spent that in a full all inclusive weekend ( Charlisangels escorts resort ). Why pay $4000 for a few hours when there`s so many other choices, usually safer? my advice to all men:
NEVER TRY THIS AT HOME.....
There`s places in the island of DR where there`s no snooping by feds, because it`s not within USA boundaries. Sorry for Eliot, this advice is a bit too late.
Live chatts is the most "direct" way to meet "clients"
Flirt4free.com and Livejasmin.com with its Live chatts have also much of the prostitusionbranch in their hands.The studios where the "models"are, is mostly runned by criminal groups in Russia,Bulgaria ,slovakia, czechia and Colombia,but are often located in another country.
At Flirt4free (wich shows the same models as a number of other adresses, at the same time)they first advertise that guests can chatt free of charge, in their "open chatt".When the "guests"(called Freeusers,who in the chatt have grey color of their text)are in the chatt,other models, pretending to be "registered members and have white and Gold text when they write, tryes to "force the guest" to register for "private chatt"(wich is looking at the "model" waking off or using dildoes).Their retoric is very sofisticated, with a number of psychological aproaches.
One person,usually calling himself: Principal, but he have a number of nicknames, leads the "work on the victims" to force them to register,with creditcardnumber etc.
In PVT(Private chatt=sexshows) the newly fooled member often are suggested to escort or even directly to suggestion on sexual services or totally fooled for "friendship".It is a friendship, where the member have to pay for: mothers operations,medical treatment,costs for university studies or even clothes, where the "model" are playing on the victims feelings for him.Its a sofisticated branch and the actors are well trained.
This is the most dubiouse part of the sexbranch online ,as it sells worthless "cyber-friendships" with so much lies that the victims rarely report it,to the lawenforcements,like Interpol.
However,Interpol IS present on Flirt4free.So is FBI,russian FSB and czech law,observing and documenting.Their aim is to disclose the "forcing actors"(like Principal,mke,--:,@,Pavlik and other nicks of wich some of them belongs to one and the same person)and those models who goes in to a trap ,where the member is belonging to any of mentioned lawenforcements.
The location of most studios, are wellknown to the law.So is the actors behind the studios.They are often involwed in other illegal activities, both online and outside the net, like Narcotics,sextraffiking,variouse types of prostitusions and selling of stole property.Some "models" are restrained and forced for these activities but still there are independent models as well.
How do i know this?Well, im working for Interpol myself on flirt4free.Stolen identities and bankaccounts that are looted are also common.The victims feel so much shame that they often dont report it.But some does.
Internet Prostitution
To me prostitution falls under the "victimless crime" heading and should have long ago been legalized. This is a service industry between consenting adults and basically no one's business but those involved. Maybe it will take the internet to help us all grow up.
Victimless Crime
Sakara -
I agree that prostitution, aka "providing" is a victimless crime. I worked in the industry for three years and have always cringed when online mediums - TV or the Internet - make out the women as damaged deliquents. There are a suprising amount of us that are college educated and work very hard and use this as a stepping stone to the next part of our life. I know design adult sites, whether agency, escorts or pay site for porn stars. I have used my marketing degree and adult entertainment background to do this. And I use every SEO idea I read here and other places, mix it up a bit to be relevant to the content and watch my sites do very well among the rankings. The one thing I must say about adult marketing is that we are not affraid to even try new things regarding SEO and affiliate marketing of our sites, it usually pays off in lucrative dollars.
Callie
Victimless Crime?
Tell Governor Spitzer's daughters that this is a victimless crime. Many families suffer when a spouse indulges in prostitution. Often the "Johns" are listed in local newspapers from the latest sting by police. Also, statistics show that many prostitutes have been sexually abused during their childhoods, and equate selfworth with using their bodies for sex. Then there are the "Johns". Have you ever researched sexual addiction? Many "Johns" seek out prostitutes in an addictive downward spiral that eventually cost them jobs, families, social standing, and shame. Often, there are victims involved.
Yes- Victimless.
To name the families as victims of this "crime" of adult consensual sex is to forget that these same people are "victims" in adultery when no money is exchanged. Your flawed logic would suggest that all adultery be deemed a crime. Or any sex that someone who wasn't involved was hurt by or bothered by.
Adult consensual sex should be completely decriminalized. Go after real harms like rape, slavery, and murder.
While the feds were expending resources on investigating and wiretapping Emperor's Club, some poor soldier- someone's son, brother, husband, father- was killed by shrapnel in Iraq because his armor wasn't thick enough, or some poor veteran can't get the medical attention he needs from the country that sent him to war. Those funds can be far better-spent than on harassing women and men who are engaging in activities which would be perfectly legal were there no money exchanging hands.
Many, many women, girls and
Many, many women, girls and boys involved in prostitution are being held against their will: they have been kidnapped from other countries and forced into the situation. The are not the "happy hookers" so many people would like to believe are at the heart of the oldest profession. They are helpless victims, and the fact theat many of them are often children is what is most disgusting.
Victimless?
Whenever I hear the words "victimless crime" I shudder. Let's count the victims: Spitzer's wife, his 3 teen daughters, any living parents & in-laws, the organizations that he "helped", etc. How would you take your family member (spouse or child) being involved in prostitution or even a "victimless" affair? I know that my wife & children would be devastated for years.
Although I entirely disagree with his politics, areas & folks where he could have helped are left holding the bag.
Is the "girl" a victim? She put herself in this position (pardon the pun). But she also has family too.
As taxpayers, we're also the victims, since it's YOUR tax dollars that will go to prosecute his crimes. He broke laws not just involving prostitution. As governnor, he should be setting an example of good behavior & character.
Say what you may, but there are NO victimless crimes. As far as legalizing it & taxing it...if the government can't figure out how to do a national sales tax on internet sales, how are they going to tax prostitution?
Keep it stigmatized. Keep it illegal. The whole mess is degrading to women as well as society as a whole.
As far as internet porn goes, I have seen too many good people & good marriages be torn apart by that crap. Myself included.
There are always victims to bad behavior.
Only rights can stop the wrongs
Your assertion that it should be kept illegal and stigmatized is extremely disturbing to me. This is the very reason women (not just prostitutes) are targeted for murder. It is called the "whore stigma."
Gary Leon Ridgeway- the Green River killer- was able to kill so many women because of the stigma and the illegality. Prostitutes who might have seen something happen would rarely go to the police for fear of being arrested and sent to jail. When the boyfriend of one of the prostitutes led the police directly to Ridgeway's door, he wasn't taken seriously because he was the partner of a whore.
Women are violently punished by men for their sexual and economic transgressions- or even for so much as stepping out of their homes. They are stoned, beaten, burned, and mutilated because of the hegemonic attitude that the free expression of sex should be the sole domain of men.
I am sorry your marriage was ruined by internet porn, but that is no reason to advocate for the endangerment of all women by your shortsighted and self-serving attitude.
Only Rights Can Stop the Wrongs
"The only solution to the oppression of women exploited as prostitutes is a political elimination of the very notion of female sexual/ economic transgression (chosen or forced) by granting all women the same rights, liberties and protections against violation as those to which human beings in general, i.e. men, are entitled. All women’s rights are attached to prostitutes’ rights because the whore stigma can disqualify any woman’s claim to legitimacy and throw suspicion on any woman accused of economic and/or sexual initiative."
-Pheterson, G. (1996) The Prostitution Prism, Amsterdam University Press, Amsterdam. P. 105
Tax
The problem is if you legalize it how can the Govt Tax it .....
Like any other independent contractor would be taxed
New Zealand decriminalized prostitution back in 2003, and has seen a significant increase in their tax revenue.
Prostitution
Sakara: No, i dont agree there.The reason is that people often just are "curiouse of sex" and are fooled to pay for it.But when a "costumer" knows what he (or she...women also pay for sex, more often than the common man think)is doing and know what he/she wants,then its on "equal terms" and should be legal.
But all lies and manipulations on innocent people, is not a good "sexual edication" for anybody!
Get out from Under the Rock
The only thing about this article that I find even minutely surprising is the level of ignorance surrounding some involved in web marketing in relation to the level of marketing used in online porn/prostitution.
Anyone who does any work in marketing, and took the barest amount of time to look at search results, would see that sex is one of the top keywords searched throughout the Internet. In such a high demand market it is obvious those seeking to take advantage of it would need to use cutting edge marketing techniques to thrive.
Simple as that.
Go figure
Its fascinating to me that the almighty google will no longer be acccepting sites that sell "dropshipped" quality products but you can get all the sex/ porn/etc you could ever want, from them.
they do allow
What do you meant Google won't accept 'dropshipping products listed online'? There are millions of sites that offer such shipping to customers, even affilate programs, which are a huge marketing successful strategy online.
If you have any problems online with this issue I'm glad to help you out. Just let me know.
Laura
Caveat Emptor
Sptizer has spent his career putting bad guys in jail--- this is just another "under cover" sting - This is all just a "cover-up" for the bigger picture.
He has masterminded this entire event to UN COVER the true bad guys, he will in 2 months announce that even his resignation is a fake. This will be the deepest penetration the FBI has ever made into Prostitution. It is a "new" era in Police investigations, Deep Throat was a "silent" witness, this is counter intelligence, just examine his name "spitzer"- this will tell you more about the "behind the scenes". This will go beyond the smoke and mirrors of Bill Clinton and Monica.....this will expose the open "door" policy even in the White House.
No more call girls sponsored links?
As soon as I opened the article did a quic search with the same terms suggested: new york call girls The result was amazing. Google didn't show any sponsored link. Zero. Zilch. None. I ran my quest without any ad blocking software.
Man, google is fast!
the top ones are gone
Jason At His Best!
I have been following Jason's takes on internet issues but nothing can beat this piece. Its witty, its serious and its condemning. Hats off, Jason!
The web page in question is no longer available although the site gets mentioned in the top 5 search listing for "emperor's club". May be, Google will have to add one more factor to its algorithm. I am also surprised the site is only PR1! What happened to our SEO gurus?
By the way, the site has about 131 inlinks.
Now I have coined a term - "Spitzer" - one who searches on Google for sex, call girls etc. Copyright for a wrong.
Written word is permanent
One big problem is that if I was a prostitute, I would not want my photo online to advertise it. That is an invitation to lots of other trouble, not counting the illegal prostitution itself. If I was to leave the profession later, and yes women do that when they use the money for education for example, then I would not want my past information online either. In my computer profession, I know how to find archived websites, plus if anyone talked about me on blogs, forums, etc, that would be easily found too.
Online people just don't realize that the old-fashioned power of "put it in writing" is more prevelent than ever. What is in writing and now also posted on a webpage, could be permanent somewhere online and be found most of the time. That is why many of those services still want to be discreet the old-fashioned way is what I believe.
Laura
I need a raise
I am a prostitute & want to get more money for servicing our 'Men of Power'. Thinking once this Spitzer thing is over, the Congressmen will continue doing us - he's not the only one, but I sure would like more access into that pot o'gold! Can the FBI who did the wiretapping/investigation expose all the other politicians that conduct themselves in this manner? I want to know and put them on my list! Thanks for your continued support.
What the H--- Doee This Have to do w/ SEO????
Keep this crap out of my SEO announcements.
SEO
SEO (Search Engine Optimization) is growing at leaps and bounds exponentially. There are many intricate parts of the process and it is constantly changing in reaction to behaviors on the Internet. Yes the sites mentioned here can easily be setup within all the powerful SEO rules of the Internet game. No one person or entity can stop this from happening. We are now a global world as one unit due to the Internet. I don't know about you, but my ego is not big enough to fight against that fact, so I work with whatever I learn from it instead. I know I have no choice, or else be stressed about something much more powerful than me.
The world is changing so much faster than any other time in history, because of the power of information on the Internet so vastly available to so many more people at one time. You are a mere ego human if you actually think you have power to control SEO in any environment on the Internet.
Laura
not just seo
HYPOCRITS
IF YOU PLAY WITH THE HYPOCRITICAL FIRE, YOU'RE GONNA GET BURNED @ THE STAKE
IPOD-MAGICS.COM
Wake up world prostitution is everywhere.
I am from the big state of NH. Just check out Craigs list and you will find all the girls you want, at hey, much more resonable prices. The problem with all the publicity this gets is that the average guy who would never think about it, might look into the whole scene. In NH the police to stings all the time, and it made the paper. Other wise I would have never known about all the prostitution in our little tucked away state. So wake up world, it's all over the place.
My theory of the REAL reason...
Yes, I agree pod40 - prostitution is EVERYWHERE! People should get used to it by now!
I think the real problem with prostitution isn't the business, but the "civilized" world's treatment of the business. It usually comes down to some social-religious morality code that has developed over the many centuries since the birth of civilization. I also think that, because many religions (mostly Christian - more specifically on the Catholic, Baptist & Born-Again sides) look at intercourse as a "necessary evil" for the "miracle of birth", it has in turn promoted the abhoration of prostitution, pornography, and the act of "casual sex". Putting childbirth on the level of a sacred act ordained by a deity, anything that would commercialize or "cheapen" it would get a negative reaction. Because of making our reproductive process so "sacred", it has brough forth the legal/social battles over abortion and birth-control, as well as prostitution, adultery, puligamy and hedonism.
Personally, I think people have such a disdain for intercourse in general because it shows just how closely related we are to animals. That similarity to the beasts of our planet could support the theory that we were not created by a God, but evolved from the same protoplasm that every other living creature on the planet has come from - thus making humans less of a "blessed" being, and more of "just another species in the world".
In short, the only difference between us and animals are our minds (and the opposable thumb). Two humans having sex are very similar to primates, dogs, cats, rats, etc. having sex. Plus, we as a species enjoy intercouse for pleasure, not just procreation - and civilized humans can't handle those facts!
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