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Admit Spamming to Request Google Reinclusion

Navneet Kaushal — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:23:32 +0000

The way to make it back to Google index is to simply send in the reinclusion request. This is how it is supposed to work. However, Barry on Search engine Roundtable informs about a WebmasterWorld thread which states that Google Reinclusion request forces you to ‘admit’ that you’re a spammer.

The post on WebmastersWorld says:

I have gone to Google’s reinclusion request form to look into submitting a reinclusion request for the site. However, to submit such a request, you MUST agree to a declaration that the site has been spamming (you must agree to: “I believe this site has violated Google’s quality guidelines in the past.")

So what do I do? I don’t want to sign a declaration that says we’ve been spammers, because it isn’t true. I’m quite happy for people at Google to look into why the domain is not indexed, as I think it’s clean, but I don’t want to be forced to ‘admit’ to being a spammer when that’s not the case.

Do you think that it is reasonable for Google to demand an admission of liability for them to look into what may be an error on their part?

Another member responds to the thread:

No. I think it’s a rather arrogant way to approach this problem.

Barry says, “There are times where one takes over a domain that may have done something against Google’s guidelines. In that case, you can easily say, yes – it is possible, the previous owner, did things that were wrong. But if not?”

Join the forums on WebmastersWorld to give your take.

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Cutts Confirms Traffic Power Delisting

WebProNews Staff — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:50:01 +0000

Google’s well-known engineer Matt Cutts makes an exception to his general precedent of not talking about companies being removed from Google’s index.

In the case of SEO company Traffic-Power.com, Cutts made an exception, confirming the site had been booted from Google, along with domains promoted by that company.

Cutts’ response came in response to Traffic Power accusing the site owner of TrafficPowerSucks.com of defamation and making false claims. The top two complaints made by Traffic Power concerned Google:

a. Claims that the search engine giant Google has banned and is banning from its search engine listings websites of Traffic-Power.com clients because of the search engine optimization strategies used by Plaintiff.

b. Claims that clients of Traffic-Power.com run the risk of being banned from Google search engine listings if they use Traffic-Power.com services

That led to Cutts crafting a response, running it by Google’s legal department, and posting it on his blog but from the perspective of his official capacity as head of Google’s webspam group:

I can confirm that Google has removed traffic-power.com and domains promoted by Traffic Power from our index because of search engine optimization techniques that violated our webmaster guidelines at http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html. If you are a client or former client of Traffic Power and your site is not in Google, please see my previous advice on requesting reinclusion into Google’s index to learn what steps to take if you would like to be reincluded in Google’s index.

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BMW Site Gets Spanked by Google

Lee Odden — Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:45:32 +0000

Notice to search marketers: Your brand will not save you from the consequences of screwing with search engines.

Lots of fun commentary on this one:

Google blacklists BMW.de – CNET News.com

Ramping up on international webspam – Matt Cutts of Google

BMW cheats search-engines, Google removes it from search results – Boing Boing

For Matt Cutts to point out a crackdown on international search spam, I suspect there has been a lot of it going on un-checked. Or at least not under as much scruitiny as English language sites.

Time for BMW.de to clean up their act and brush up on steps to a re-inclusion request.

I wonder how BMW Public Relations is going to handle this? Do you think they’ll “out” the SEO?

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Cutts Comments On Reinclusion Requests

John Stith — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:44:00 +0000

One of the great fears in the search engine marketing world remains getting dropped by the big search engines. Many online businesses live and die by their Google page ranks as well as how they rate in organic searches. Sometimes Google drops the bomb and you’re done for, aren’t you? Your page rank drops, your page listings disappear and you sweat. Maybe you should try reinclusion.

Salubrious search engine swami and Google guru Matt Cutts offered an in depth discussion on how to file reinclusion requests. The first thing he addressed was for folks to figure out just what might have caused the problem. He recommended examining one’s site very closely. Depending on your marketing approach and certain other issues like a javascript, hidden text or some other problems, these all could’ve cause the problem.

Then he discussed what to do and how to send it. He said to be sure and type “Reinclusion Request” in the subject and some other details. Then he goes into what Google wants to hear in a request, which comes down to “that any spam on the site is gone or fixed” and “it’s not going to happen again.” He suggested including details on what happened and any other information deemed relevant and even a brief description of the SEO company you might have used and how to explain the possible infraction.

The one drawback is probably the time factor involved in getting the relisting done. In some cases, it could take 6-8 weeks or it could take as little 2-3 weeks depending on the type of error and its severity.

Dan Thies over at SitePoint mentions in his blog, “Unfortunately, he doesn’t address the collateral damage caused by some of their more aggressive filtering practices, or the possibility that following Google’s webmaster guidelines on redirects can do more harm than good.”

Thies did say his students were reporting better results for the reinclusion process as long as they followed Google’s rules. This should bode well for worried businesses. As long as they play by the rules, then they are ok.

John Stith is a staff writer for WebProNews covering technology and business.