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		<title>SEOs Not Buying Google’s Privacy Motive for Encrypting Search</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Abby Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google has caused quite a ruckus in the search marketing community after it announced some changes to search. Last week, the search giant said that it would begin encrypting logged-in searches that users do by default, when they are logged into Google.com. This further integration of a Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) will prevent search marketers from receiving referral data from the websites consumers click on from Google search results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google caused quite a ruckus in the search marketing community after it <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/making-search-more-secure.html">announced</a> some changes to search. Last week, the search giant said that it would begin <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/google-encrypted-search-means-no-info-for-individual-queries-2011-10">encrypting logged-in searches</a> that users do by default, when they are logged into Google.com. This further integration of a Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) will prevent search marketers from receiving referral data from the websites consumers click on from Google search results.</p>
<p><strong>What do you think of Google&#8217;s move to encrypt searches? <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/seos-we’re-not-buying-google’s-privacy-motive-for-encrypting-search-2011-10#comments">We&#8217;d love to know.</a></strong></p>
<p>While this change is only supposed to affect a single digit percentage of referral data, many SEOs are not happy with the move and believe that Google has gone too far. <a href="http://www.stonetemple.com/background-of-stc/">Eric Enge</a>, the Founder and President of <a href="http://www.stonetemple.com/">Stone Temple Consulting</a>, told us that he was completely “baffled” when he saw the news. <a href="http://rebeccalieb.com/">Rebecca Lieb</a>, the Digital Advertising and Media Analyst at the <a href="http://www.altimetergroup.com/">Altimeter Group</a>, was also surprised by the move and called it “evil.”</p>
<p>“I hate to say this about Google because they’re a company that I admire and like and respect, but I think this is evil,” she said.</p>
<p>“Google is taking something away that is a very, very valuable tool for anybody practicing SEO,” Lieb added.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.searchingforprofit.com/Site1/company.html">Amanda Watlington</a>, the Owner of Searching for Profit, also shared with us that she would not be able to give her clients as much value as she has in the past.</p>
<p>“I have learned more from the referral data that comes into the that lets me benefit the user – I won’t have that data to mine, “ she said. “Personally, it will make it harder for me to (a) understand what the performance of my pages are and (b) to learn from my pages.”</p>
<p>Google has said that it did this in order to make search more secure, but the SEO community doesn’t agree. Enge told us that he didn’t recall any outcry from privacy organizations in regards to search term data and, therefore, is not convinced that security was Google’s real motive. If this were the case, he thinks that Bing and Yahoo would have had to make changes as well.</p>
<p>Others, including Amanda Watlington, think that Google did this for financial purposes. She told us that it was “all about the Benjamins.” <a href="http://findmefaster.com/">Matt Van Wagner</a> of Find Me Faster also said that he could see the search giant thinking this move would make its search engine look more attractive to shareholders since it could potentially push more people to use paid search – its primary revenue model.</p>
<p>Lieb takes a slightly different approach and said that Google could have done this to appease regulators. What’s bad though, as she points out, is that most regulators don’t understand referral data and other aspects of Internet marketing.</p>
<p>“I think Google may (It’s a theory – I can’t prove it) be throwing a bone to somebody on Capitol Hill with this move,” she said.<br />
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Is Google making moves to try to improve its reputation with regulators? <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/seos-we’re-not-buying-google’s-privacy-motive-for-encrypting-search-2011-10#comments">What do you think?</a></strong></p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/#!/oilman">Todd Friesen</a>, the Director of SEO at <a href="http://www.performics.com/">Performics</a>, agrees that Google made this move as part of a greater effort. He told us that Google frequently makes small moves and waits to see how everyone reacts before it pushes out its bigger plan.</p>
<p>“Google doesn’t do anything on a whim,” he said. “They’re definitely thinking 5 and 10 years out.”</p>
<p>“There’s definitely a bigger plan behind it, and it’s probably big and scary with teeth and claws,” he added.</p>
<p>A big part of the reason why SEOs aren’t buying into the privacy theory is because the changes do not impact advertisers. This is ironic since consumers don’t typically complain about organic search data, but <a href="http://adage.com/article/abbey-klaassen/behavioral-targeting-scare-consumers-job-explaining/230431/">they are usually concerned</a> about targeted advertising. It seems as though Google is saying that consumer information is important for advertisers to make money, but it turns into a consumer privacy issue when it relates to organic search results.</p>
<p>“The fact that they’re keeping all this referrer data alive for advertisers is strongly, if not irrefutably, indicative that the money is not where the mouth is,” said Lieb.</p>
<p>Friesen also said that it’s a “hypocritical standpoint” on Google’s part. If the motive is really about privacy, he doesn’t think that Google should be passing referrer to advertisers, or anyone for that matter.</p>
<p>Another point that Lieb raised was that paid search could eventually take a hit from this move. If small businesses that are investing in organic search through Google are not able to get the data they need, she doesn’t think that they would want to pursue a paid search campaign with it either.</p>
<p>“It’s certainly something that would make me, as an advertiser, almost inclined to go to Bing or Yahoo just because… just because this isn’t right,” added Lieb.</p>
<p>Google maintains that this change is very small and that it will only impact a small percentage of searches. <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/">Matt Cutts</a> also pushed this message on Twitter:</p>
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<p>The SEOs, however, are not convinced. There are so many unanswered questions that this move raises that one can’t help but wonder about the future of SEO. Watlington, for instance, told us that she could see Google monetizing the data going forward and that this move is the first step.</p>
<p>“To me, the move to give it to an advertiser is a monetization of the data,” she said. “What additional monetization will be, I’m waiting to see.”</p>
<p>Van Wagner told us that, since he primarily does paid search, he is glad that Google didn’t include advertisers at this point. But, this move could result in more competition in paid search, which is not something is in favor of either.</p>
<p>The biggest concern is the fact that no one knows what is next. Lieb told us that if Google does decide to roll this out further, SEO could really be in danger.</p>
<p>“People have a right to be upset about this because, even if it’s only 10 percent now, or only 15 percent now, it could get more dire,” she said.</p>
<p>Watlington believes that search marketers may have to rethink what they do moving forward. She even said that they might have to “look away from search” and focus more on traditional marketing. At this point, Google is the primary search player and everything it does directly impacts search marketers, which, according to Watlington, does not indicate a promising future for search marketing.</p>
<p>“We have one very large player, a monopolistically-sized player… holding enough of the cards,” she said. “That’s not exactly what I call a real long-term strategy because whatever that player does, it impacts us.”</p>
<p>Friesen, on the other hand, doesn’t really think that this impacts what SEOs do. He thinks that the process of <em>how</em> they track and report on it changes but said that the job of an SEO doesn’t actually change.</p>
<p>“What, unfortunately, it does is drives us back to rank checking as a more important metric,” he explained.</p>
<p>He does admit that the SEO industry could be more heavily impacted if Google makes a further move in this area.</p>
<p>“At this point, it’s less than 5 percent… but if it starts to climb, then we get into a reporting issue,” said Friesen. “We get back to the ‘SEO is black magic voodoo stuff.’”</p>
<p>Incidentally, a petition called <a href="http://keywordtransparency.com/">Keyword Transparency</a> has been created that hopes to get Google to <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/petition-seeks-to-keep-google-from-blocking-referral-data-2011-10">reverse this action</a>. The &#8220;About&#8221; section on the site says:</p>
<p><em>This petition has been created to show Google the level of dissatisfaction over their recent changes to keyword referral information, and will be presented to the search quality and analytics teams at Google.</em></p>
<p><em>The argument that this has been done for privacy reasons sadly holds little weight, and the move essentially turns the clock back in terms of data transparency.</em></p>
<p><em>The argument that this only affects &lt;10% of users is also concerning as this is likely to increase over time, even up to a point where it affects the majority of users being referred from search.</em></p>
<p>At this point, there are over 1,000 signatures on the petition.<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Is Google’s move to encrypt searches just the first of many? And if so, is the future of SEO in question? <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/seos-we’re-not-buying-google’s-privacy-motive-for-encrypting-search-2011-10">Let us know your thoughts in the comments.</a><br />
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		<title>What</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike McDonald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t there something just inherently &#8216;Internet-y&#8217; in speculating about what the future will bring? Personally, I always enjoy chatting with smart web-savvy internet folks about where we are headed with &#8216;this&#8217; or &#8216;that&#8217; in the future.<br />
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At SMX Advanced in Seattle this year I asked Rebecca Lieb about what she is reading in the tea leaves insofar as search is concerned. Here are a few key concepts I considered the big takeaways from the discussion.</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&rsquo;t there something just inherently &lsquo;Internet-y&rsquo; in speculating about what the future will bring? Personally, I always enjoy chatting with smart web-savvy internet folks about where we are headed with &lsquo;this&rsquo; or &lsquo;that&rsquo; in the future.</p>
<p>At SMX Advanced in Seattle this year I asked Rebecca Lieb about what she is reading in the tea leaves insofar as search is concerned. Here are a few key concepts I considered the big takeaways from the discussion.</p>
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<strong>Social Media:</strong><br />
Rebecca believes we are going to see search engines spend a lot of time and effort developing ways to integrate social and behavioral data into search. We all know about Google&rsquo;s appetite for data. Most people even on the periphery of the industry have a really good idea (and a nagging worry?) about how much data Google has about our search behavior.</p>
<p>What about Facebook?&nbsp; What about Twitter?&nbsp; Facebook goes a little different direction than what your behavior is, they know more than what we do&#8230; they know what we like. They know this because we tell them.&nbsp; We tell them our favorite colors, our favorite bands and where we like to go on vacation.</p>
<p>We tell Twitter about ourselves too, but most importantly with Twitter, we tell them what we are doing &lsquo;<em>right now</em>&rsquo;.&nbsp; Think a search engine wouldn&rsquo;t be interested in knowing what you are doing &lsquo;<em>right now</em>&rsquo; when you are doing a search?&nbsp; Maybe?</p>
<p><center> <img align="middle" alt="Feeling Lucky?" src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/lucky.jpg" /></center></p>
<p>If you can get past the slightly creepy aspects of this concept, the upside of it all is that we will probably have better search engines.&nbsp; All of this data we are feeding the machines about ourselves is going to make the machines exponentially better at interpreting what we &lsquo;mean&rsquo; when we type in a query. Pretty soon, who knows? They may know more about what we want than we do.&nbsp; Won&rsquo;t that be nice?&nbsp; Instead of typing queries into search bars, we can just request optimal instructions.&nbsp; Be a big time saver&#8230;&nbsp; Gives the &#8216;Feeling Lucky&#8217; button a whole other slant too, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p><strong>There&rsquo;s an App for That:</strong><br />
Rebecca seems to be of the opinion that search, particularly mobile search, might slip through the fingers of the giant aggregators like Google and Bing.&nbsp; She believes we are going to see an uptake in usage and mobile search marketshare going to specialized search apps like Urban Spoon.</p>
<p>There may still be 3 or 4 of you out there thinking &lsquo;meh, mobile search&rsquo; but pay attention to the part in the video where Rebecca points out that &ldquo;30% of Google search in Japan is coming from mobile search&rdquo;.&nbsp; That&rsquo;s a lot of search. Think that % is going to go down? Clearly I can&rsquo;t speak for everybody, but personally, I think this smartphone thing might have some legs to it.</p>
<p><strong>Say Hello to your Customer:</strong><br />
<img align="right" src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/smiley.jpg" alt="Smiley" />Another memorable Rebecca quote (well praraphrase at&nbsp; least) from the video is; &ldquo;people are really realizing that monitoring reputation management is more and more a part of search&rdquo;.&nbsp; </p>
<p>As social media data makes it&rsquo;s way into search engines, companies better have a good idea about the potential impact &#8211; good and bad &#8211; they may be looking at when ALL of their customers have the potential to air their opinions.&nbsp; </p>
<p>The guy that bought the &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widget&rsquo; last week and left a 3 page rant about how bad it sucked and how horrible your company was to deal with, could more and more find his way to the top of search results for your &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widgets&rsquo;.&nbsp; What happens if your &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widgets&rsquo; normally make up 30% of your seasonal spring internet sales?&nbsp; That could get ugly.&nbsp; Say hello to your customer.&nbsp; If they wave, wave back.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Search, as Rebecca points out is becoming more and more of a 2 way street.&nbsp; Your clients are informing your market strategies already now more than they ever have.&nbsp; This influence is only going to grow.&nbsp; If you are thinking about your Search strategy and have another group in your organization working on your Social strategy&#8230;.&nbsp; you guys need to hang out more. A lot more. Go to lunch, have drinks after work, become room mates (if you are management, consider handcuffing these people together) &#8211; whatever it takes.&nbsp; Social and search get a little closer every day.&nbsp; If search is vital to your business, then social is vital to your business, you may just not know it yet&#8230;&nbsp; But it&rsquo;s coming.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike McDonald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t there something just inherently &#8216;Internet-y&#8217; in speculating about what the future will bring? Personally, I always enjoy chatting with smart web-savvy internet folks about where we are headed with &#8216;this&#8217; or &#8216;that&#8217; in the future.<br />
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At SMX Advanced in Seattle this year I asked Rebecca Lieb about what she is reading in the tea leaves insofar as search is concerned. Here are a few key concepts I considered the big takeaways from the discussion.</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&rsquo;t there something just inherently &lsquo;Internet-y&rsquo; in speculating about what the future will bring? Personally, I always enjoy chatting with smart web-savvy internet folks about where we are headed with &lsquo;this&rsquo; or &lsquo;that&rsquo; in the future.</p>
<p>At SMX Advanced in Seattle this year I asked Rebecca Lieb about what she is reading in the tea leaves insofar as search is concerned. Here are a few key concepts I considered the big takeaways from the discussion.</p>
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<strong>Social Media:</strong><br />
Rebecca believes we are going to see search engines spend a lot of time and effort developing ways to integrate social and behavioral data into search. We all know about Google&rsquo;s appetite for data. Most people even on the periphery of the industry have a really good idea (and a nagging worry?) about how much data Google has about our search behavior.</p>
<p>What about Facebook?&nbsp; What about Twitter?&nbsp; Facebook goes a little different direction than what your behavior is, they know more than what we do&#8230; they know what we like. They know this because we tell them.&nbsp; We tell them our favorite colors, our favorite bands and where we like to go on vacation.</p>
<p>We tell Twitter about ourselves too, but most importantly with Twitter, we tell them what we are doing &lsquo;<em>right now</em>&rsquo;.&nbsp; Think a search engine wouldn&rsquo;t be interested in knowing what you are doing &lsquo;<em>right now</em>&rsquo; when you are doing a search?&nbsp; Maybe?</p>
<p><center> <img align="middle" alt="Feeling Lucky?" src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/lucky.jpg" /></center></p>
<p>If you can get past the slightly creepy aspects of this concept, the upside of it all is that we will probably have better search engines.&nbsp; All of this data we are feeding the machines about ourselves is going to make the machines exponentially better at interpreting what we &lsquo;mean&rsquo; when we type in a query. Pretty soon, who knows? They may know more about what we want than we do.&nbsp; Won&rsquo;t that be nice?&nbsp; Instead of typing queries into search bars, we can just request optimal instructions.&nbsp; Be a big time saver&#8230;&nbsp; Gives the &#8216;Feeling Lucky&#8217; button a whole other slant too, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p><strong>There&rsquo;s an App for That:</strong><br />
Rebecca seems to be of the opinion that search, particularly mobile search, might slip through the fingers of the giant aggregators like Google and Bing.&nbsp; She believes we are going to see an uptake in usage and mobile search marketshare going to specialized search apps like Urban Spoon.</p>
<p>There may still be 3 or 4 of you out there thinking &lsquo;meh, mobile search&rsquo; but pay attention to the part in the video where Rebecca points out that &ldquo;30% of Google search in Japan is coming from mobile search&rdquo;.&nbsp; That&rsquo;s a lot of search. Think that % is going to go down? Clearly I can&rsquo;t speak for everybody, but personally, I think this smartphone thing might have some legs to it.</p>
<p><strong>Say Hello to your Customer:</strong><br />
<img align="right" src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/smiley.jpg" alt="Smiley" />Another memorable Rebecca quote (well praraphrase at&nbsp; least) from the video is; &ldquo;people are really realizing that monitoring reputation management is more and more a part of search&rdquo;.&nbsp; </p>
<p>As social media data makes it&rsquo;s way into search engines, companies better have a good idea about the potential impact &#8211; good and bad &#8211; they may be looking at when ALL of their customers have the potential to air their opinions.&nbsp; </p>
<p>The guy that bought the &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widget&rsquo; last week and left a 3 page rant about how bad it sucked and how horrible your company was to deal with, could more and more find his way to the top of search results for your &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widgets&rsquo;.&nbsp; What happens if your &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widgets&rsquo; normally make up 30% of your seasonal spring internet sales?&nbsp; That could get ugly.&nbsp; Say hello to your customer.&nbsp; If they wave, wave back.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Search, as Rebecca points out is becoming more and more of a 2 way street.&nbsp; Your clients are informing your market strategies already now more than they ever have.&nbsp; This influence is only going to grow.&nbsp; If you are thinking about your Search strategy and have another group in your organization working on your Social strategy&#8230;.&nbsp; you guys need to hang out more. A lot more. Go to lunch, have drinks after work, become room mates (if you are management, consider handcuffing these people together) &#8211; whatever it takes.&nbsp; Social and search get a little closer every day.&nbsp; If search is vital to your business, then social is vital to your business, you may just not know it yet&#8230;&nbsp; But it&rsquo;s coming.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike McDonald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t there something just inherently &#8216;Internet-y&#8217; in speculating about what the future will bring? Personally, I always enjoy chatting with smart web-savvy internet folks about where we are headed with &#8216;this&#8217; or &#8216;that&#8217; in the future.<br />
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At SMX Advanced in Seattle this year I asked Rebecca Lieb about what she is reading in the tea leaves insofar as search is concerned. Here are a few key concepts I considered the big takeaways from the discussion.</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&rsquo;t there something just inherently &lsquo;Internet-y&rsquo; in speculating about what the future will bring? Personally, I always enjoy chatting with smart web-savvy internet folks about where we are headed with &lsquo;this&rsquo; or &lsquo;that&rsquo; in the future.</p>
<p>At SMX Advanced in Seattle this year I asked Rebecca Lieb about what she is reading in the tea leaves insofar as search is concerned. Here are a few key concepts I considered the big takeaways from the discussion.</p>
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<strong>Social Media:</strong><br />
Rebecca believes we are going to see search engines spend a lot of time and effort developing ways to integrate social and behavioral data into search. We all know about Google&rsquo;s appetite for data. Most people even on the periphery of the industry have a really good idea (and a nagging worry?) about how much data Google has about our search behavior.</p>
<p>What about Facebook?&nbsp; What about Twitter?&nbsp; Facebook goes a little different direction than what your behavior is, they know more than what we do&#8230; they know what we like. They know this because we tell them.&nbsp; We tell them our favorite colors, our favorite bands and where we like to go on vacation.</p>
<p>We tell Twitter about ourselves too, but most importantly with Twitter, we tell them what we are doing &lsquo;<em>right now</em>&rsquo;.&nbsp; Think a search engine wouldn&rsquo;t be interested in knowing what you are doing &lsquo;<em>right now</em>&rsquo; when you are doing a search?&nbsp; Maybe?</p>
<p><center> <img align="middle" alt="Feeling Lucky?" src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/lucky.jpg" /></center></p>
<p>If you can get past the slightly creepy aspects of this concept, the upside of it all is that we will probably have better search engines.&nbsp; All of this data we are feeding the machines about ourselves is going to make the machines exponentially better at interpreting what we &lsquo;mean&rsquo; when we type in a query. Pretty soon, who knows? They may know more about what we want than we do.&nbsp; Won&rsquo;t that be nice?&nbsp; Instead of typing queries into search bars, we can just request optimal instructions.&nbsp; Be a big time saver&#8230;&nbsp; Gives the &#8216;Feeling Lucky&#8217; button a whole other slant too, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p><strong>There&rsquo;s an App for That:</strong><br />
Rebecca seems to be of the opinion that search, particularly mobile search, might slip through the fingers of the giant aggregators like Google and Bing.&nbsp; She believes we are going to see an uptake in usage and mobile search marketshare going to specialized search apps like Urban Spoon.</p>
<p>There may still be 3 or 4 of you out there thinking &lsquo;meh, mobile search&rsquo; but pay attention to the part in the video where Rebecca points out that &ldquo;30% of Google search in Japan is coming from mobile search&rdquo;.&nbsp; That&rsquo;s a lot of search. Think that % is going to go down? Clearly I can&rsquo;t speak for everybody, but personally, I think this smartphone thing might have some legs to it.</p>
<p><strong>Say Hello to your Customer:</strong><br />
<img align="right" src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/smiley.jpg" alt="Smiley" />Another memorable Rebecca quote (well praraphrase at&nbsp; least) from the video is; &ldquo;people are really realizing that monitoring reputation management is more and more a part of search&rdquo;.&nbsp; </p>
<p>As social media data makes it&rsquo;s way into search engines, companies better have a good idea about the potential impact &#8211; good and bad &#8211; they may be looking at when ALL of their customers have the potential to air their opinions.&nbsp; </p>
<p>The guy that bought the &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widget&rsquo; last week and left a 3 page rant about how bad it sucked and how horrible your company was to deal with, could more and more find his way to the top of search results for your &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widgets&rsquo;.&nbsp; What happens if your &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widgets&rsquo; normally make up 30% of your seasonal spring internet sales?&nbsp; That could get ugly.&nbsp; Say hello to your customer.&nbsp; If they wave, wave back.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Search, as Rebecca points out is becoming more and more of a 2 way street.&nbsp; Your clients are informing your market strategies already now more than they ever have.&nbsp; This influence is only going to grow.&nbsp; If you are thinking about your Search strategy and have another group in your organization working on your Social strategy&#8230;.&nbsp; you guys need to hang out more. A lot more. Go to lunch, have drinks after work, become room mates (if you are management, consider handcuffing these people together) &#8211; whatever it takes.&nbsp; Social and search get a little closer every day.&nbsp; If search is vital to your business, then social is vital to your business, you may just not know it yet&#8230;&nbsp; But it&rsquo;s coming.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mike McDonald</dc:creator>
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<br />
At SMX Advanced in Seattle this year I asked Rebecca Lieb about what she is reading in the tea leaves insofar as search is concerned. Here are a few key concepts I considered the big takeaways from the discussion.</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&rsquo;t there something just inherently &lsquo;Internet-y&rsquo; in speculating about what the future will bring? Personally, I always enjoy chatting with smart web-savvy internet folks about where we are headed with &lsquo;this&rsquo; or &lsquo;that&rsquo; in the future.</p>
<p>At SMX Advanced in Seattle this year I asked Rebecca Lieb about what she is reading in the tea leaves insofar as search is concerned. Here are a few key concepts I considered the big takeaways from the discussion.</p>
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<strong>Social Media:</strong><br />
Rebecca believes we are going to see search engines spend a lot of time and effort developing ways to integrate social and behavioral data into search. We all know about Google&rsquo;s appetite for data. Most people even on the periphery of the industry have a really good idea (and a nagging worry?) about how much data Google has about our search behavior.</p>
<p>What about Facebook?&nbsp; What about Twitter?&nbsp; Facebook goes a little different direction than what your behavior is, they know more than what we do&#8230; they know what we like. They know this because we tell them.&nbsp; We tell them our favorite colors, our favorite bands and where we like to go on vacation.</p>
<p>We tell Twitter about ourselves too, but most importantly with Twitter, we tell them what we are doing &lsquo;<em>right now</em>&rsquo;.&nbsp; Think a search engine wouldn&rsquo;t be interested in knowing what you are doing &lsquo;<em>right now</em>&rsquo; when you are doing a search?&nbsp; Maybe?</p>
<p><center> <img align="middle" alt="Feeling Lucky?" src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/lucky.jpg" /></center></p>
<p>If you can get past the slightly creepy aspects of this concept, the upside of it all is that we will probably have better search engines.&nbsp; All of this data we are feeding the machines about ourselves is going to make the machines exponentially better at interpreting what we &lsquo;mean&rsquo; when we type in a query. Pretty soon, who knows? They may know more about what we want than we do.&nbsp; Won&rsquo;t that be nice?&nbsp; Instead of typing queries into search bars, we can just request optimal instructions.&nbsp; Be a big time saver&#8230;&nbsp; Gives the &#8216;Feeling Lucky&#8217; button a whole other slant too, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p><strong>There&rsquo;s an App for That:</strong><br />
Rebecca seems to be of the opinion that search, particularly mobile search, might slip through the fingers of the giant aggregators like Google and Bing.&nbsp; She believes we are going to see an uptake in usage and mobile search marketshare going to specialized search apps like Urban Spoon.</p>
<p>There may still be 3 or 4 of you out there thinking &lsquo;meh, mobile search&rsquo; but pay attention to the part in the video where Rebecca points out that &ldquo;30% of Google search in Japan is coming from mobile search&rdquo;.&nbsp; That&rsquo;s a lot of search. Think that % is going to go down? Clearly I can&rsquo;t speak for everybody, but personally, I think this smartphone thing might have some legs to it.</p>
<p><strong>Say Hello to your Customer:</strong><br />
<img align="right" src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/smiley.jpg" alt="Smiley" />Another memorable Rebecca quote (well praraphrase at&nbsp; least) from the video is; &ldquo;people are really realizing that monitoring reputation management is more and more a part of search&rdquo;.&nbsp; </p>
<p>As social media data makes it&rsquo;s way into search engines, companies better have a good idea about the potential impact &#8211; good and bad &#8211; they may be looking at when ALL of their customers have the potential to air their opinions.&nbsp; </p>
<p>The guy that bought the &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widget&rsquo; last week and left a 3 page rant about how bad it sucked and how horrible your company was to deal with, could more and more find his way to the top of search results for your &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widgets&rsquo;.&nbsp; What happens if your &lsquo;XL Blue Beach Widgets&rsquo; normally make up 30% of your seasonal spring internet sales?&nbsp; That could get ugly.&nbsp; Say hello to your customer.&nbsp; If they wave, wave back.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Search, as Rebecca points out is becoming more and more of a 2 way street.&nbsp; Your clients are informing your market strategies already now more than they ever have.&nbsp; This influence is only going to grow.&nbsp; If you are thinking about your Search strategy and have another group in your organization working on your Social strategy&#8230;.&nbsp; you guys need to hang out more. A lot more. Go to lunch, have drinks after work, become room mates (if you are management, consider handcuffing these people together) &#8211; whatever it takes.&nbsp; Social and search get a little closer every day.&nbsp; If search is vital to your business, then social is vital to your business, you may just not know it yet&#8230;&nbsp; But it&rsquo;s coming.</p>
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		<title>SEW Names Sullivan&#8217;s Successor</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joe Lewis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incisive Media revealed today that Rebecca Lieb has been promoted to editor-in-chief of the ClickZ network. In fulfilling her new responsibilities, Lieb will take over for Danny Sullivan, providing editorial direction for the Search Engine Watch website.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incisive Media revealed today that Rebecca Lieb has been promoted to editor-in-chief of the ClickZ network. In fulfilling her new responsibilities, Lieb will take over for Danny Sullivan, providing editorial direction for the Search Engine Watch website.</p>
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<p>The announcement came at the Search Engine Strategies conference in Chicago, not ironically, the show that is headed up by Danny Sullivan.</p>
<p>The move comes on the heels of Sullivan&#8217;s departure from <a href="http://www.searchenginewatch.com" class="bluelink">Search Engine Watch</a>, and the subsequent formation of his new venture, <a href="http://www.searchengineland.com" class="bluelink">Search Engine Land.</a> Before today&#8217;s announcement, much speculation had be offered as to who would be tapped to step into Sullivan&#8217;s shoes as editor-in-chief of the popular search engine resource.</p>
<p>&#8220;Rebecca is an outstanding journalist and editor who has taken ClickZ to new heights. She has always understood the important and unique role of search in the interactive marketing space,&#8221; said Sullivan, now editor-in-chief of SearchEngineLand.com.</p>
<p>&#8220;Her promotion is well deserved, and I look forward to seeing her guide Search Engine Watch into its next generation.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a SEW <a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/061207-112707" class="bluelink">blog post</a>, Lieb comments on her promotion and gives an optimistic appraisal of the site&#8217;s future with her at the helm:</p>
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<div style=margin-left:10px; margin-right:10px>Today, ClickZ is thriving. I&#8217;m confident Search Engine Watch will, too, due in no small part to its legions of devoted and intensely engaged readers. My role here is to shape the editorial direction of the site going forward, mostly from behind the scenes. I have no plans to become a SEW byline. I&#8217;m no slouch when it comes to search, but I also know enough about search to recognize that others know far more about it than do I.
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Lieb certainly has a large pair of shoes to fill as she steps into her new role at Search Engine Watch. Sullivan, routinely praised for his industry prowess, is largely credited with the success that SEW has achieved in recent memory.</p>
<p>Taking up the SEW gauntlet will be no easy task, but so far Lieb appears to be embracing the challenge.</p>
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