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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<span id="more-38213"></span><!--smx--> <em>WebProNews will have stories and videos from Danny&#8217;s inaugural <a title="Search Marketing Expo" href="http://searchmarketingexpo.com/">Search Marketing Expo</a> titled &quot;SMX Advanced&quot; in Seattle this week. Stop by our site or sign up for our <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/signup">free newsletter</a> and follow the search marketing news.</em></p>
<p>One thing to do is, of course, not look like spam, yet Tim Mayer, Yahoo Search&rsquo;s Vice President of Product Management, noted that there are legitimate uses for almost every technique, and that the &ldquo;fine line&rdquo; between spam and honest advertising will vary by industry.</p>
<p>Mayer went on to point listeners to Yahoo&rsquo;s <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/search/siteexplorer/index.html" title="Site Explorer APIs">Site Explorer</a>, which can help people report &ldquo;spammy&rdquo; links.&nbsp; About 79 percent of the reports Yahoo receives are genuine, he said.</p>
<p>Peter Linsley, Ask&rsquo;s Senior Product Manager for Search, started on a related note by defining a &ldquo;genuine&rdquo; candidate for the penalty box.&nbsp; In essence, this person would be hurting the user experience (with dead pages, for example) or gaming the search engines (through cloaking or link farms).</p>
<p>This &ldquo;genuine&rdquo; candidate would then start to see a drop in rank and a drop in traffic.&nbsp; At this point, the situation could still be reversed &#8211; Linsley said search engines do look into error cases &#8211; but he considers gaming the engines to be the same as tempting fate, and warns people not to let spammers leverage their sites or abuse their comments.</p>
<p>Next up was Aaswath Raman, the Program Manager of Microsoft&rsquo;s Live Search, and he quickly illustrated how intent and targeting can land a person in the penalty box.&nbsp; Raman said that, on a popular Star Wars site, a link to StarWars.com makes sense.&nbsp; A link to CheapCasinoHandbags.org does not.</p>
<p>Raman then supplied the address of Microsoft&rsquo;s <a href="http://search.msn.com/docs/submit.aspx" title="Microsoft's Live Search URL Submission">Live Search URL Submission</a> site, just in case you feel your site has been unfairly penalized or overlooked.</p>
<p>Matt Cuts, head of Google&rsquo;s Webspam Team, spoke last, and he gave a simple, if humorous, definition of behavior worthy of the penalty box: &ldquo;If you&rsquo;ve left over 10,000&nbsp; guestbook comments in one hour&#8230;&nbsp; you might be a spammer.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Cutts stated that Google is always trying to beef up its webmaster guidelines, and that <a href="http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769" title="Webmaster Guidelines">new quality guidelines</a> have, in fact, been posted.&nbsp; Many of the fresh rules were made in response to specific instances of spamming, and Cutts made clear that Google is &ldquo;not averse to taking manual action on spam.&rdquo;</p>
<p>If you run a &ldquo;mom and pop&rdquo;-type site that made a mistake, it looks like most of the major engines are willing to forgive and forget.&nbsp; Intentional bad behavior &#8211; particularly if it&rsquo;s on a larger scale &#8211; will send you straight to the penalty box.</p></p>
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