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		<title>Wikipedia to Start Coloring Trust</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Crum</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Mediawiki]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Wikimedia Foundation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[wikipedia]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Last week, it was <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125132637904761993.html">revealed</a> that Wikipedia would be making some changes to its rules for editing. It was reported that the site was testing pages that would require people editing entries to have their changes approved by &#34;experienced&#34; editors before the changes would be made. <br />
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Now it appears that some other specific editorial changes are in store for the widely used encyclopedia site. The people behind Wikipedia reportedly intend to implement a color coded system of trust, called WikiTrust. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, it was <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125132637904761993.html">revealed</a> that Wikipedia would be making some changes to its rules for editing. It was reported that the site was testing pages that would require people editing entries to have their changes approved by &quot;experienced&quot; editors before the changes would be made. </p>
<p>Now it appears that some other specific editorial changes are in store for the widely used encyclopedia site. The people behind Wikipedia reportedly intend to implement a color coded system of trust, called WikiTrust. </p>
<p>WikiTrust is a system that has been around since last year in the form of a <a href="http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki">MediaWiki</a> extension&nbsp;(there&#8217;s also a <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/11087">Firefox extension</a>). It was developed by researchers from the <a href="http://trust.cse.ucsc.edu/">Wiki Lab</a> at the University of California, Santa Cruz. Starting this fall, it will be integrated directly into the Wikipedia experience.</p>
<p>WikiTrust adds a &quot;check text&quot; tab to a wiki, which enables visitors to check on the author, origin, and reliability of content. When activated, it displays text in color-coded fashion with the classic white background for high-trust text, and shades of orange that are the stronger, the lower the trust level. Wired Science <a href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/08/wikitrust/">explains</a>:<br />
<em><br />
When someone makes an edit, the background behind the new text gets shaded orange depending on their reputation: the brighter the orange, the less &ldquo;trust&rdquo; the text has. Then when another author edits the page, they essentially vote on the new text. If they like the edit, they&rsquo;ll keep it, and if not, they&rsquo;ll revert it. Text that persists will become less orange over time, as more editors give their votes of approval.<br />
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<p><center><em><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/11087"><img src="http://images1.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/wikitrust-firefox.jpg" alt="WikiTrust Firefox Add-On" title="WikiTrust Firefox Add-On" /></a></em></p>
<p><em>Screenshot from Firefox Extension</em></center></p>
<p>Wikipedia will be including the tab at the top of the screen, so users can easily decide whether or not they want to use it. More information on how WikiTrust works can be found at <a href="http://wikitrust.soe.ucsc.edu/index.php/Main_Page">this WikiTrust wiki</a>. </p>
<p>Telegraph recently <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6043534/The-50-most-viewed-Wikipedia-articles-in-2009-and-2008.html">listed</a> the top 50 most viewed Wikipedia articles of the last two years (HT: <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/wikipedias_most_visited_pages_beatles_youtube_obam.php">RRW</a>). It would be interesting to see the trust level on the text within these pages.</p>
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		<title>1 Wiki, Best of Both Worlds</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ross Mayfield</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Business]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[enterprise]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[McAfee]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Mediawiki]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back in November, <a href="http://blog.hbs.edu/faculty/amcafee/index.php/faculty_amcafee_v3/now_thats_what_im_talking_about/">Andy McAfee</a> shared a great wiki case study from <a href="http://www.avenuea-razorfish.com/enterprisesolutions">Avenue A &#124; Razorfish</a>.&#160; They adapted MediaWiki to meet their needs.&#160; Leveraging open source, a great approach for a company that builds custom Intranets.
<p>But <a href="http://radiowalker.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/is-mediawiki-an-enterprise-wiki/">Jeff Walker</a> of Atlassian Confluence, a commercial wiki vendor, disagrees:</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in November, <a href="http://blog.hbs.edu/faculty/amcafee/index.php/faculty_amcafee_v3/now_thats_what_im_talking_about/">Andy McAfee</a> shared a great wiki case study from <a href="http://www.avenuea-razorfish.com/enterprisesolutions">Avenue A | Razorfish</a>.&nbsp; They adapted MediaWiki to meet their needs.&nbsp; Leveraging open source, a great approach for a company that builds custom Intranets.</p>
<p>But <a href="http://radiowalker.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/is-mediawiki-an-enterprise-wiki/">Jeff Walker</a> of Atlassian Confluence, a commercial wiki vendor, disagrees:</p>
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<p>It strikes me that if Razorfish invested all this effort and money, then the question needs to be asked: Is Mediawiki an enterprise wiki? Certainly not out of the box.</p>
<p>One full-time intern and two part-time developers is at least $50-100K for one year! Probably the latter number. Mediawiki in this instance became an enterprise wiki but only after considerable work.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>To which <a href="http://www.theworkplaceblog.com/2007/02/more_avenue_a_razorfish_wiki_t.html">Shiv Singh of Razorfish</a> replies:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>&hellip; Our wiki did not take a full year to build and the part-time developers were bench resources. In other words, it did not cost us $100,000 as Jeffery implied. Furthermore, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_2.0">enterprise 2.0</a>&nbsp; as coined by Andrew McFee is not about cost but about what the software does for its users and how they shape the software themselves.</p>
<p>Commercial enterprise 2.0 software like <a href="http://www.socialtext.com/">Socialtext</a>, Brainkeeper and Atlassian Confluence are great options for some business scenarios and we often recommend them to our own clients. But in other cases, simply modifying open source sofware can get an organization what it needs. Furthermore, by modifying mediawiki we were able to get exactly what we needed. Most importantly, by virtue of how it is being used, we know that it is social software in an organization &#8211; and that&#8217;s the most important part of an enterprise 2.0 solution.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.scalefree.info/2007/02/build_or_buy.html">Anu Gupta</a> of <a href="http://headshift.com">Headshift</a> attempted to comment (as did I and I&#8217;m stealing the structure of this post from Anu):</p>
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<p>Shiv &#8211; not sure I agree with you&hellip;</p>
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<p>I think you&rsquo;re lucky (or unlucky) in having bench resource available &#8211; a lot of companies aren&rsquo;t in that situation and have a constant battle to get developer time. So, faced with that situation &#8211; what is the cost of having 2 developers available, part time, to develop and look after your mediawiki instance over 18 months ?</p>
<p>Secondly, would spending the relatively small amount on an unlimited license for Confluence ($8,000) or Socialtext, and getting out of the box AD integration, search and granular permissioning, represent better value than developing it from scratch ?</p>
<p>Also, developing inhouse commits you to a codebase that with an audience of just yourselves (until you release it out to the community ?).</p>
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<p>I can see both sides here.&nbsp; Jeff&#8217;s point is that MediaWiki wasn&#8217;t designed for Intranet use out of the box.&nbsp; I believe there is truth to this, that MediaWiki will always be optimal for running a public online encyclopedia or similar community.</p>
<p>But you can&#8217;t slap down open source development on the basis of cost alone.&nbsp; Going with a proprietary vendor inherently restricts <em>freedom</em> &#8212; both through lock-in and the ability to extend. Open source enables a company to both manage risks, share risks across a community and adapt software for their situation.&nbsp; Engaging internal developers also engages core stakeholders that can help wiki adoption.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p>
<p>I also find the cost argument to be misleading. The closed option has a license cost, the open option has no license cost.&nbsp; But the customer&#8217;s customization requirements would have to be met somehow, and who knows how the buy vs. build works out in this case where pricing isn&#8217;t transparent.</p>
<p>Anu&#8217;s System Integrator perspective provides a third way, where a third party gains economies by providing solutions across a base of customers.&nbsp; But to remove the question mark at the end of his comment, so does an open source community.&nbsp; It seems Razorfish benefits from having the bulk of its codebase be community maintained, and I would suggest sharing their extensions are in their best interest. I&#8217;m not questioning the value of such integrators, each has their own proposition and value add, but the customer would be better off if an SI serviced codebase was, again, open source.</p>
<p>The fourth way involves me tooting my own horn.&nbsp; If Razorfish started their project today, they could use <a href="http://socialtext.net/stoss">Socialtext Open</a> and get the best of both worlds.&nbsp; The best of breed enterprise wiki and the freedom of open source.&nbsp; </p>
<p>We chose a commercial open source business model because it strikes a balance between freedom and profit.&nbsp; Not because we are <a href="http://www.socialglass.com/archives/23">hippies</a>.&nbsp; But because it is in the best value for end customers.&nbsp; As first to market and first to feature, we continue to innovate and there is the chance that one day Razorfish would find having us service the software to be a valuable option.&nbsp; But that is up to them.</p>
<p>When competing in a market full of choice, you have to be a choice leader.&nbsp; Not just in providing on-site, Appliance, SaaS and open source deployment and licensing options.&nbsp; But enabling your customers to make their own choices.</p>
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