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		<title>Does Your Company Practice SEM And SEO?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Banks Valentine </dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>At the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.mediapost.com/events/?/showID/SearchInsiderSummit.05-03-09">MediaPost Search Insider Summit</a>, I got the opportunity to join a panel on social media and search with Darrin Shamo of <a target="_blank" href="http://www.zappos.com/">Zappos</a> and panel moderator Bob Heyman of MediaSmith (and co-author of the book <a target="_blank" href="http://www.digital-engagement.com/">Digital Engagement</a>). I'm not going to discuss that panel here and will leave that to another post. But an interesting thing came up during my presentation...<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.mediapost.com/events/?/showID/SearchInsiderSummit.05-03-09">MediaPost Search Insider Summit</a>, I got the opportunity to join a panel on social media and search with Darrin Shamo of <a target="_blank" href="http://www.zappos.com/">Zappos</a> and panel moderator Bob Heyman of MediaSmith (and co-author of the book <a target="_blank" href="http://www.digital-engagement.com/">Digital Engagement</a>). I&#8217;m not going to discuss that panel here and will leave that to another post. But an interesting thing came up during my presentation&#8230;</p>
<p>The event is pretty heavily weighted toward SEM and I asked what turned out, to those in attendance, to be a bit of a dopey question. I asked &quot;How many here are interested purely in SEM?&quot; then when only a couple of hands were raised, I was encouraged to think it may be more of an SEO crowd, so I asked &quot;How many are interested purely in SEO?&quot; and saw only another sprinkling of raised hands. </p>
<p>So, based on one of my previous experiences at a major company where the team was half SEM and half SEO, and my current position, which is entirely SEO team with no SEM &#8211; I assumed a similar situation would be true of most in-house teams at substantially sized companies. </p>
<p>My assumption was apparently skewed. It seems that most do double-duty on in-house teams. When I asked &quot;What&#8217;s the balance here?&quot; a few people said, (a few with emotion) &quot;Both!&quot; </p>
<p>That surprised me, based on what I knew before asking that question. But now I know that, at least among the crowd attending Search Insider Summit, that the oft joined SEM/SEO label applies to most. Well I suppose that was a gaff then, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Later in the day, I overheard a conversation on a shuttle bus which makes me wonder if SEO is being best served by in-house SEM/SEO&#8217;s. After two strangers from the conference exchanged greetings &amp; pleasantries, the inevitable &quot;What do you do?&quot; came up from one. </p>
<p>The answer, &quot;SEM and I&#8217;ve been <strong><em>tasked</em></strong> with learning SEO for our team.&quot; (emphasis mine) Then the response from an ill-informed questioner was short-sighted and probably simplistic thinking from those who <i>THINK</i> they understand SEO &#8211; &quot;So you&#8217;re learning about meta tags and H1&#8242;s?&quot;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to argue that the two disciplines should be divided and I&#8217;d wager that many SEM&#8217;s who love what they do will agree. The skill-set is completely different. Both SEM&#8217;s and SEO&#8217;s deal with keywords, and target search engine results pages, but that is where the similarity ends.</p>
<p>Having recently worked day-to-day with an SEM team in-house and being separated only by a cubicle wall for 18 months. I recall the SEO team only dealing with the SEM team during our bi-weekly online marketing group meetings.</p>
<p>So if someone who loves SEM is &quot;<strong><em>tasked</em></strong> with learning SEO,&quot; (like that overheard conversation I mentioned above) they are not likely to understand or fully invest themselves in truly learning an important aspect of the Search Marketing business. They&#8217;ll learn a couple of things and not all aspects of the work. They&#8217;ll continue to do a great job of SEM and start doing a poor job of SEO.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also argue that if that role is reversed and an SEO is &quot;<strong><em>tasked</em></strong> with learning SEM for the team&quot; then they will learn a few things, but not all of the elements of good SEM and not do a complete and thorough job of SEM but will continue to do a good job of SEO.</p>
<p>I recall a couple of job interviews about 5 years ago where in both cases, I was talking with an SEM manager who had convinced their boss that they needed a full-time SEO on staff to handle things they weren&#8217;t able to continue doing as the company grew. Rather than evenly split SEM and SEO tasks among two staffers, they were dividing the two. That&#8217;s the smart way to go.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t take either of those jobs, and I&#8217;m quite happy about that now. I also walked away from a job that would have required me to significantly sharpen my SEM skills so that I could handle both. I didn&#8217;t doubt that I could do it, but love SEO and very likely wouldn&#8217;t have done as well with the SEM piece.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d like to ask the question of those SEM/SEO dual purpose people &#8211; are you doing both because you love both or are you doing both because you were &quot;<em><strong>tasked to learn</strong></em>&quot; one of those pieces because your company won&#8217;t increase the budget enough for a new head on the payroll? Would you rather focus on one or continue doing both?</p>
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		<title>Aftermath Of A Craigslist Scam</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Berkowitz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="entry-body"><p>The two posts on this blog with the most staying power, drawing comments week in and week out, come from an experience with <a href="http://www.craigslist.org/" linkindex="3">Craigslist</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<p>The two posts on this blog with the most staying power, drawing comments week in and week out, come from an experience with <a href="http://www.craigslist.org/" linkindex="3">Craigslist</a>.</p>
<p>Like, oh, about a couple billion people, I&#8217;m a big fan of the site. I&#8217;m now living in the second of two apartments I&#8217;ve found through Craigslist. Soon after I first moved to Manhattan early this decade, I kept tabs on local event listings and went to a few where I met some great groups of people, like a couple who hosted a pickup kickball game in Central Park. When I&#8217;ve moved, Craigslist has been a great way to get rid of some furniture and other miscellany that I might have needed to toss otherwise.</p>
<p>Yet everything that&#8217;s open about the web attracts people who try to abuse it. One such scam that came to my attention was the result of a fluke, where two people I knew were accosted by the same scammer (or group of scammers). They figured out it was a scam only after randomly mentioning it to each other, and then one of them told me. They then gave me permission to post it on my blog, leaving out their personal details, as a way to attract others.</p>
<p>The post that resulted was this <a href="http://www.marketersstudio.com/2007/12/craigslist-real.html" linkindex="4" set="yes">Craigslist Real Estate Scam Alert</a>, posted six months ago this week. It has since attracted about 70 comments, and it led to a second post, <a href="http://www.marketersstudio.com/2007/12/craigslist-re-1.html" linkindex="5" set="yes">Craigslist Real Estate Scam Alert &#8211; Another Version</a>, which has attracted even more people weighing in with their stories.</p>
<p>Most people who comment share some sort of information about the scam they received, and it provides this snowball effect, as the post now appears in search engine results for an ever-growing roster of scammers, along with their addresses and phone numbers. I&#8217;ve noticed that a number of visits to my blog come from people searching for one of those numbers. See the MediaPost column recap on <a href="http://www.marketersstudio.com/2008/01/how-seo-can-sto.html" linkindex="6" set="yes">How SEO Can Stop a Scammer</a> for more.</p>
<p>I met Craig Newmark when he appeared at an event to launch the book <em>Accidental Branding</em> by David Vinjamuri (he&#8217;s one of the entrepreneurs featured in the book &#8211; <a href="http://www.marketersstudio.com/2008/03/accidentally-br.html" linkindex="7" set="yes">a great read</a>, I might add). I asked him about the scam, and he&#8217;s of course well aware of it; he&#8217;s even worked with Federal authorities to try to combat it, but there&#8217;s little the US can do about the Nigerian-based fraudsters.</p>
<p>There is something bloggers can do, and anyone who&#8217;s sharing any kind of content online. We can share it with others, first to help it spread through word of mouth, and more importantly so it stays out there for when people need to find it.</p>
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