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		<title>Mozilla&#8217;s Devilish Deal With Google</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two aspects of Mozilla&#8217;s close ties with Google over development of the Firefox browser have Chris Soghoian concerned about a conflict of interest in play.</p>
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<p>People who adopt <a href="http://www.getfirefox.com">Firefox</a> as a replacement for Microsoft&#8217;s Internet Explorer think they are turning aside a monopolist in favor of a more secure and open browsing alternative. It may not be as open as we think.</p>
<p><img src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/sm_body/firefoxflag.gif" alt="" />  I missed a little bit of semantic nuance back in May, when Mozilla&#8217;s Asa Dotzler <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/05/16/joey-hops-around-mozilla-labs">commented on my speculation</a> that Mozilla could be pressured via Google by a company like Verizon. As Asa commented, and I&#8217;ve emphasized in bold:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Can Google (or any one, for that matter) effectively pressure Mozilla to change course on a Mozilla Labs project that <strong>they&#8217;re not directly involved with</strong>? Absolutely not.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now look at the context Soghoian brings to the Mozilla and Google topic, and how Dotzler&#8217;s choice of words appear to fit five months later.</p>
<p><img src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/sm_body/firefoxbrowse.gif" alt="" />  &quot;The close relationship between Google and Mozilla leads to a number of serious conflicts of interest. The end result is that users&#8217; online privacy and security take a backseat to the protection of Google&#8217;s revenue streams,&quot; <a href="http://www.cnet.com/8301-13739_1-9776759-46.html?tag=blg.orig">Soghoian wrote</a> at CNet.</p>
<p>One conflict of interest comes in the form of ad blocking, the other in phishing toolbars. Soghoian wondered why Firefox&#8217;s developers haven&#8217;t integrated two of the most popular add-ons for the browser, <a href="http://adblockplus.org/en/">AdBlock Plus</a> (and the Filterset G Updater), and <a href="http://www.customizegoogle.com">CustomizeGoogle</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://aj.600z.com/aj/41546/0/cc?z=1"><img src="http://aj.600z.com/aj/41546/0/vc?z=1&amp;dim=41553" style="display: none;" alt="" /></a>  &quot;Even if Mozilla were contractually free to include anti-Google-tracking features, it would not be a wise move, business-wise. After all, it is not too smart to anger the company that provides more than 85 percent of your financing,&quot; said Soghoian.</p>
<p>His phishing assessment shows an even greater concern for Firefox users. A documented flaw in gmodules.com, as found by well-known security researcher <a href="http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20070817/xss-hole-in-google-apps-is-expected-behavior/">RSnake</a>, has been dismissed by Google as a feature, not a bug.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny when <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268397/">Jimmy Neutron</a> calls his robotic dog Goddard&#8217;s ability to explode a feature instead of a bug. On the Internet, the joke isn&#8217;t quite as laugh-inducing.</p>
<p>Soghoian charged, based on RSnake&#8217;s experience and findings, that no anti-phishing product will enter the market with a Google domain on a blacklist. Google domains won&#8217;t be placed in the blacklist it maintains for Firefox, either.</p>
<p>The problem comes not just from the revenue stream Google provides to Firefox, most recently $56 million in 2006. Soghoian noted how Googlers spend a lot of time building Firefox, including lead developer Ben Goodger, a Google software engineer. (UPDATE: Asa Dotzler said in an email neither Goodger nor other Google staffers have been major contributors in some time.)</p>
<p><img src="http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/sm_body/hackers.gif" alt="" />  Google contributes time, people, and money, the three essential parts of any project. Mozilla CEO Mitchell Baker has claimed <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/10/25/mozilla-can-walk-away-from-googles-cash">Mozilla can quit Google</a> any time it wants.</p>
<p>If they really want to keep the trust of Firefox users, it may be time for a divorce. It won&#8217;t be as easy as driving through a quickie divorce shop in Reno, but for the long term good of the project it may be necessary.</p>
<p>Unless, of course, they really can&#8217;t leave $56 million and scads of talented Googler developer time on the table.</p>
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