Search and Social Media: Who Can You Trust?

Why Google Needs Your Social Graph

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The New York Times published a very interesting (and very long) article over the holiday break that raises a lot of questions about Google and search in general. I’ll let you read the 8-page story yourself if you want all the details, but what it boils down to is that Google doesn’t always point you to the best possible results. 

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Some of you probably don’t need an 8-page article to tell you that, but this story in particular paints a picture of a business that goes out of its way to treat customers poorly so that they’ll leave negative comments, which have (in the past) worked to boost its visibility on Google, as the search engine has given more focus to local businesses. It sounds crazy, but it has apparently worked, though since the story brought exposure to it, Google appears to have dropped the rankings in this instance. The point is that there is no telling how widespread this kind of thing is  – not businesses intentionally treating customers poorly for search visibility (though I’m sure this one business isn’t the only one to engage in such behavior), but just Google giving undeserved visibility to businesses that get more bad reviews than good. 

Search Engine Land’s Danny Sullivan, who was tapped as a source for the NYT piece, provides a great deal of further analysis on Google’s practices here

"Having seen the crazy things that Google will rank high over time, it’s easy to become jaded and think ‘that’s the way it is,’ he writes. "Many SEOs I know feel this way and have largely given up assuming anything will change, or that Google will take the SEO view of its ranking problems seriously. Heck, Google still won’t let people look up all the backlinks leading to a site, which might allow outsiders to do a better job helping them police their results."

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"It’s all stuff that can be dismissed as ‘inside baseball’ and not what typical people care about," Sullivan added. "But typical people do care, do get puzzled…what Google ranks tops can have a terrible impact on real consumers."

This is true to some extent. If Google places the bad results over the good ones (and as Sullivan points out, Bing is no better at this than Google, and Bing provides results for Yahoo now), and consumers are duped into going with those results, it is those consumers who will pay the price. 

Buyer Beware

However, it is ultimately the user’s responsibility to use their own judgment and do their homework before making any decisions or suffer the consequences. As Jeff Jarvis at Buzz Machine says, " The internet doesn’t nullify the First Law of Commerce: caveat emptor. When I had my now-legendary problems with Dell, I kicked myself for not doing a search of ‘dell sucks’ before buying my computer. That’s my responsibility as a shopper. And, as I pointed out at the time, Google would have given me the information I needed."

There’s something to be said for this kind of consumer investigating. The information is out there. It’s up to you how you go about getting it, which is why social media has become an important go-to channel for trusted results. You can just as easily get poor results from social media, but you define who your friends are and what their opinions mean to you. 

Google and other search engines know this of course. It’s why Bing made a deal for Facebook results. In fact, it’s why Google recently launched a social recommendation engine (Hotpot) directly tied to local listings.
Using Hotpot to rate places and get recommendations

It’s not as if Google isn’t trying to overcome this problem. Google knows it’s not perfect. The problem with that recommendation engine is that it’s not where consumers’ friends already are. That’s why Facebook is such a key component to this whole thing, and that’s why Facebook in turn is a direct competitor to Google and why Google is trying desperately to build consumers’ social graphs on their own properties. 

It’s Ultimately in Users’ Hands

If users want Google to be their way of finding trusted information, it’s in their interest to build their social graphs through Google. For Google’s part, it’s a matter of a. getting customers to realize that, and b. getting users to care that much about Google being the place where they get their info. There are plenty of people out there that would just as soon go elsewhere, and plenty that simply don’t trust Google. 

Neither of these are easy tasks, and this bodes well for Facebook, which continues to get integrated into more of consumers daily habits

The trust that comes with social and human curation is important across the entire search board. It applies to shopping. It applies to news. It applies to information in general. As the web continues to grow, so to will the importance of knowing who to trust. That means real relationships (social media), and as far as search is concerned, that means access to those relationships. 

This is why social is critical to Google, and why search will continue to become more important to Facebook. It’s also why Twitter (along with Twitter search) is such an effective news medium.

Related: What if Facebook Goes Search While Google Struggles to Go Social?

Do you think social adds relevance? Tell us what you think in the comments.

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  • http://www.beautybusinessblueprint.com/ Guest

    Great article Chris and thanks for bringing what I’ve been kind of suspecting to light. Sometimes the SEO and Google search do NOT match up.

  • http://sufferingfrommigraine.com Guest

    Great article and info Chris.

    I think search or social media ultimately comes down to what people will respond to. Neither of them are able to separate the good from the bad and because people are naturally interested in the juicy stuff (negative comments) the bad will always overpower the good. I mean if “this is not a good comment” which word is the bad or which is the good that google or the others will choose and display in their result? (not a good comment, or good comment). They’ll never be able to separate the words from the meaning of the sentence.

    So as far as SEO in my opinion it doesn’t matter much, because the only way is effective is in marketing. Using SEO as a marketing tool and not as a search engine ranking tool.

    One can do all the SEO in the world and won’t rank high, (at least on the long run) but have some good honest to god negative responses and people will be interested and the ranking will go up.

  • http://www.misslin.eu chris

    Great article.

    Hope google will read it and act on it. recommendations by friends will always supersede search result. let say I am planning to go to Seattle, I got a FB friend there I will ask for advice, the same would any of my FB friend, or their friends as a matter of fact, comes here to Edinburgh (Scotland).

    It will be interesting to see how FB will make money out of recommendations, i.e. I like the New town deli (aka Globe), will FB start inserting link in my posting and charge the Deli?

    I also noticed that I was less and less often navigating further than the 5 first pages of results. On the other hand I am relying more and more on google map/street view to arrange meetings, Google biggest strength form my point of view.

    To summarise: FB has a lot of catching up to do and Google should be on their guard. to be continued I suppose

    • Chris Crum

      I agree that Maps is one very big area where Google has a clear advantage over Facebook, though Facebook is already tapping Bing Maps for Facebook Places, and I would not be surprised to see additional integrations of Bing Maps pop up around Facebook in the future.

  • http://www.thehiddentruth.net J.B.

    Wow,Google along with with every will always have room for improvement in order to stay on top new ideas and much more need to be applied.That’s saying a lot when you talk about Google but I say why stop there keep growing.Also check out http://www.thehiddentruth.net thank you and God Bless

  • http://www.mesothelioma-institute.co.cc Rofiq

    I think google is still far from perfect for the search if the stretcher is a theme that keyword. as I did some time ago, when I found the site I was looking for and has bookmark, but because I had to install my computer was missing a bookmark. when I search with the same keywords (maybe just a different space) it gives information that is much different than before, so google should fix this

  • http://dguru.net dguru

    THNX FOR Share man.


  • http://www.bigpromotions.net Rich Graham

    I saw Matt Cuts on Twit.TV yesterday, and he explained that the negative comment links coming from the review sites had the REL=NOFOLLOW attribute, so that Google would have ignored them.

    He also pointed out that it was actually the NEW YORK TIMES article, as well as one on BLOOMBERG from a few weeks prior, that had direct links to the bad site, giving it more clout.

  • http://www.HotHeadHotSauce.com Hothead

    Great article. Social media is big and gettiing bigger. It is like good old “word of mouth” advertising. If you need to need to have your car fixed and you remember your buddy has a place he raves about that he takes his car to, chances are you would go the shop your friend “likes” then randomly pick a place online or out of the phonebook.
    I am certainly trying to find the most tasteful way to use social media to help get the word out about www.HotHeadHotSauce.com.

  • http://blogs.catapultsystems.com/rnellis Robert Nellis – Social Media Consultant

    Search and Social Media need to be intertwined. Social Media is where many people find information these days.

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