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Phil Robertson Doesn’t Care If You Hate Him

    August 3, 2014
    Mike Tuttle
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Phil Robertson is living the American dream. He has a hit television show that nets his family $200,000 per episode. He makes millions more from licensed merchandising. He does what he likes to do. He says what he wants to say with little impediment or consequence. He has millions of people who adore him, back him, dress like him, and pay him for what he has to sell.

Do we think that Phil Robertson cares one bit about your opinion of his thoughts on homosexuality? Or anything else for that matter?

Robertson caused a public outcry over his GQ interview last year where he denounced homosexuality.

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

Some theologians disagree with Phil’s rendering of that Corinthians verse. They say that the translation of that in the King James Bible is in error. The GQ article says that Phil paraphrased 1 Corinthians 6:9,10. Here it is from the New KJV:

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

At issue is the translation of the words for “homosexuals” and “sodomites”. Some scholars say these were actually words related specifically to underage male prostitution common in pagan temple worship. They say this is no more related to a consenting relationship between to same-sex individuals than marital sex is related to picking up a hooker.

Parsing out Bible verses can be a full-time occupation. In the end, people choose what they want to believe, whether it is that gays are wrong, the Earth is 6,000 years old, or that Jesus came back in 1914.

The fact is, Robertson said something that millions of Americans agree with, whether they say it as loudly in public as Robertson did or not. And when Robertson was suspended from his own show, they rallied to get him back only nine days after the suspension.

Phil Robertson has nothing to worry about. When he’s adored, he does fine. When he’s dogged in the media, he still does fine because churches call him to share his persecution story with them. Even if Duck Dynasty dried up tomorrow, Phil still has his duck call business, his savings, and what will still come from his merchandising for a while.

And he has his family, his beliefs, and his community of like-minded believers. That’s more than some people. All that and the money, too. Why should Phil care that you hate him?

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  • DuneDude

    Phil Robertson is an ignoramus whose only contribution to others is that he has created a symbol of hatred that can be used to pinpoint divisive evangelicals and their flocks of delusional followers. He has no knowledge whatsoever of the neurology of sexual orientation or why people differ in sexual identity. Just because a bunch of hysterical anti-science know nothings line his pockets does not mean that he has in any manner helped society or himself. Bigotry will run its course of ruin for him and all those who espouse his unholy rhetoric. He does not believe in either the Constitution of the United States or in Christ’s message of tolerance and love. He is not a minister and has gone far outside his area of expertise to destroy the lives of those he does not know.

    • Mawmaw

      Wait til the judgment of Christ and I will take sides with what Christ said.

      • DuneDude

        That is fantastic since Christ never mentions sexual orientation and shortly discusses eunuchs who were castrated or born so. You likely do not know how the Romans promoted Christ to God for the wife of Constantine, who continued to worship Roman gods, until a “death bed conversion.” The Gnostics who took the view of the early church that Christ was a prophet were later murdered as heretics when they did not agree with the Roman produced Bible and other issues.

        • Ann M

          Christ also did not mention anything about rape,child molestation, bestiality, either but that doesn’t mean He sanctioned this behavior. Homosexuality, however, was written about in the New Testament on at least a couple of occasions and the main argument put forth against this behavior was the fact that it was unnatural. And don’t even try to bring up information about the discredited Gnostic Gospels to prove your inaccurate point about Christian history. Get your facts straight.

          • DuneDude

            Now that you bring up the writings of Saul of Tarsus who had hallucinations and delusions, everything is clear. The Gnostics were discredited by those attempting to change the viewpoint of Christ so there could be a “legitimate” religion under the laws of Rome. I would suggest you become more aware of the various Councils beginning with Carthage through Trent and on. They paraded up and down the isles with their brands of Christianity and the Bible like a modern Tea Party meeting. Some of these same men who gave you your Bible were murderers and ruthless over lords of the realm. And, in I Cor. the word in Koine used for “homosexual” actually can only be translated as “child molester” by anyone who knows the actual language at the time of Christ. Luther so translates it into German. I have studied and am well aware of the facts. “Discredited” merely means the Pauline Romans won the political battle for what was to be called Christianity, Roman Catholic–emphasis on Roman.

          • Ann M

            Lies, lies and more lies.

          • DuneDude

            Delighted that you finally have admitted the breadth and depth of your writings.

          • Ann M

            Refuting the Gnostic Gospels:

            3. While the New Testament began within ten to fifteen years of the death of Jesus (A.D. 33) and we have a fragment of Mark which can be dated AD 50 and Luke AD 57, the vast majority of the Gnostic gospels were not written until late into the third and fourth centuries.

            4. The Gnostics had a stronghold in Egypt and some fourth century manuscripts have been found in Nag Hammadi. These false gospels contained historical and literary blunders which reveal that they were not written in the first century. Their literary style is drastically different from the New Testament and they exalt absurd stories of Jesus’ childhood such as:

            Jesus would make clay birds and change them into real ones.

            While playing hide and seek, Jesus searched for some children in a particular house into which they had run. When He came to the door and asked the mother if there were any children inside she said, “No, only kids.” Outraged, Jesus turned all of the children into goats.

            Jesus had a twin brother.

            Jesus had sexual involvement with various women.

          • Deborah

            Blah blah blah. I don’t even know why anyone bothers to discuss anything with you on this matter because there is no talking to you on anything. You are deceived in what you believe. You have all of this knowledge but it’s the wrong kind. True knowledge that is associated with wisdom, comes from God as a gift. What you have comes from the world.

          • Jim Hall

            “discredited Gnostic Gospels?” Discredited by whom? Oh wait, by you…

          • Ann M

            No, the Gnostic gospels have been discredited by any scholar worth their salt who knows anything about biblical history. Wow, don’t be so smug about your own ignorance. DO YOUR RESEARCH.

          • DuneDude

            And, just what kind of a scholar are you. Tell us all about your advanced degrees and language skills.

          • Ann M

            3. While the New Testament began within ten to fifteen years of the death of Jesus (A.D. 33) and we have a fragment of Mark which can be dated AD 50 and Luke AD 57, the vast majority of the Gnostic gospels were not written until late into the third and fourth centuries.
            4. The Gnostics had a stronghold in Egypt and some fourth century manuscripts have been found in Nag Hammadi. These false gospels contained historical and literary blunders which reveal that they were not written in the first century. Their literary style is drastically different from the New Testament and they exalt absurd stories of Jesus’ childhood such as:

            Jesus would make clay birds and change them into real ones.

            While playing hide and seek, Jesus searched for some children in a particular house into which they had run. When He came to the door and asked the mother if there were any children inside she said, “No, only kids.” Outraged, Jesus turned all of the children into goats.

            Jesus had a twin brother.

            Jesus had sexual involvement with various women.

          • Ann M
          • DuneDude

            Now we know why you are not a scholar and just regurgitate and endless amount of sludge from your local water treatment plant using human feces. Too bad you believe your wonderful Christ would let you die by eating things before they are treated. Guess you are still with that snake handling church.

        • Deborah

          Hey DuneDude? Name ONE, ONE, ONE person in the bible that Jesus talked to that was gay. He NEVER talked to gays. He associated with all kinds of people in his lifetime and talked about them but gays were not part of that association. Have you ever wondered why? Hmmmm? That should scare the crap out you! He might not have mentioned sexual orientation, true, but then he also never associated with them or even mentions them in the bible. If it was mentioned AFTER his leaving the earth he created, the disciples spoke of it but it was with rebuke and that they wouldn’t inherit the Kingdom of God. The one thing Jesus did say was that marriage was to be between ONE man and ONE woman. God set that up from the beginning of time and that didn’t change. God never changed His mind on that. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Amen.

          • DuneDude

            Since homosexuals have existed since the beginning of the human race, Christ would have spoken and known some just as he knew many people that you now condemn. You don’t represent Christ and he will never accept you. Tough luck.

    • Ann M

      Homosexual couples cannot reproduce given the fact that it goes against the laws of nature, and we are the ones who are anti-science! You are fully indoctrinated with left-wing stupidity and foolishness. Human/non-human sexual relationships do not yield offspring because nature has laws which homosexual sexual behavior similarly violates. I guess nature is an ignorant anti-science homophobe.

      • DuneDude

        Many, particularly lesbians are married to men at some point and have children. Also, 20% of male homosexuals are married with children and most would not leave their spouses or children. Since most homosexuality is likely the result of X chromosomes from females that increase dramatically the number of homosexuals from all female off-spring. Also, the sisters of homosexuals who share the same X chromosome have 1.3X more offspring than their heterosexual counterparts. If you are serious about the scientific, anthropological, legal, psychological, religious issues related to homosexuality you might read my paper, “Sexual Orientation: Science and Society” with over 450 authoritative references, including the Bible. Please email me at dr.murphy@att.net and you will be sent a copy. Your most strident critique would be appreciated. Let us not forget that over 250 species of animals exhibit homosexual behavior, some with life long bonding. Thus, any argument that homosexual behavior is unnatural is, at best, misleading.

        • asdfsafdsfsd

          have fun in hell

          • DuneDude

            Facts are always a problem for those who refuse reality. I presume you are under medical management. You might want to discus Thorazine.

          • Deborah

            Only YOUR facts right DuneDude? See that’s the problem with guys like you. If someone doesn’t believe YOUR facts then the facts they have are irrelevant. That’s the bully mentality of the gay community. I think you are the one that refuses reality.

          • DuneDude

            They aren’t my facts. I can back up my writings with over 450 authoritative medical peer reviewed articles. How many references, other than a Bible which has been translated inappropriately into English and was voted on by the Romans who brought you the non-existent trinity as a canard to make Christ God, when he was and always will be a prophet of God.

          • Theresa

            Spoken like a true small c Christian.

        • Ann M

          I too wrote a paper that I published on Scribed for a bit called: “The Traditional Marriage Apologia: The What, Why and How Arguments to Defend Traditional Marriage and the Heterosexual Norm.”

          • DuneDude

            “Scribed” now there is a really authoritative peer reviewed source (LOL)!

        • Ann M

          Here is sample of my arguement: BIOLOGY

          Let me begin by reminding people of the basics of human biology. Since the issue of same-sex marriage challenges the very notion of sex (male vs. female) and sexuality, I will start by highlighting and defining our sexual organs and other major body parts that are used for sex in relation to their biological functions and from there move into my argument.

          In modern society, it seems that we are not sufficiently attentive to the question as to why humans and other mammals have sex. With the invention of various forms of birth control and the rampant trend of promiscuity, it no longer occurs to people that sex serves a function outside of providing one with physical pleasure. If you observe sex from a more scientific or biological standpoint, you will find that the biological function of sex throughout the animal kingdom is reproduction.

          According to the Tabler’s Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary, the male and female sexual organs are defined as:

          • DuneDude

            Tabler’s Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary is wildly out-of-date and is not discussing sexual orientation. If you want a paper on sexual orientation with over 450 authoritative references email dr.murphy@att.net. Doubtful you will because you don’t want information or facts, you want to live in your bubble of ignorance. You are literally afraid of facts that is why you will not email for the article. If you do, I would like you and your friends to critique every word of the article in the harshest light possible.

            During fetal development, if androgens (male sex hormones) are not present, are insufficient in quantity, or are unusable, the brain, body, or both will feminize due to the lack of sufficient male hormones or intolerance to male hormones. If androgens are present, sufficient in quantity, and usable, the brain, body or both will masculinize due to the presence of sufficient tolerated male hormones. In humans, genital-gender/sex arises in the 2nd to 3rd months and brain-gender/sex in the 4th to 5th months of fetal development. The time disparity between the development of neurological and genital sexuality increases the probability of cross-gendering leading to homosexuality and other brain based anomalous gender/sex behaviors.

            Genetics and teratology.

            Based on an extensive review of the literature on the etiology of homosexuality, biological events predominantly explain the origins of sexual orientation. While some question the ethics of studying genetic issues related to homosexuality, in-utero genetic or neuroendocrinological events play a critical role in cross-gendering. Genetic and in-utero chemically induced sex-altered groups illustrate the paradigm: Turner’s Syndrome, Androgen Insensitives, Testicular Feminizing Syndrome, Klinefelter’s Syndrome (XnY), progestin-administered females, Adrenogenital Syndrome, “super-males” (XYn), etc. At least 450 Species other than humans, in the wild and captivity, exhibit “homosexual” behavior—some with life bonding. Particularly primates appear to have differing degrees of “homosexual” behavior. The first evidence of the sex-behavior center came from research on mammals. Most research involved surgical interventions and the administration or denial of sex hormones during critical brain differentiation periods. In human female fetuses at risk for masculinizing effects from male hormones, German physicians, using in-utero anti-androgens, have forced female heterosexual genitalia and brain-gender/sex. Although discussed by Dorner, the use of androgens to force male brain-gender is complex and can potentially result in brain damage, attention deficit disorder, learning disabilities, hyper-activity, and hyper-aggression.

            Physiology, anatomy, and psychophysiology.

            Numerous studies show male homosexuals in many ways approximate females and significantly differ from male heterosexuals. Comparing male homosexuals to female heterosexuals, similarities include muscle structure, sleep patterns, pelvic openings, carry angle of arm, perception, finger dexterity, noticeable acoustic style, visuo-spatial ability, verbal performance, language lateralization,
            eating disorders, throw-to-target ability, mental rotation task, E.E.G. readings, response to male pheromones, etc. Compared to heterosexual males, some studies suggest homosexual males appear more prone to left-handedness, stuttering, and reading difficulties, differing brain anatomy related to auditory input, atypical gender and sex behavior, differing lipid levels, more empathy and altruism, larger penile dimension, etc. Among other research showing brain differences between homosexual and heterosexual males, anatomical research at Salk Institute comparing male heterosexual and homosexual brains suggests a differing development of the sex-behavior center in male homosexuals. A more recent UCLA study of the male homosexual brain shows broader differences discriminating male homosexuals from
            both male and female heterosexuals. Research on transsexuals has also revealed significant differences in brain anatomy and gonadotropin secretions.

            Hormonal anomalies.

            Direct hormonal evidence shows that male homosexuals and heterosexuals significantly differ from one another. In blind analysis, Margolese and Janiger accurately predicted sexual orientation. Dorner and Gooren injected estrogen into male homosexuals, male heterosexuals, and female heterosexuals with removed ovaries. They found the luteinizing hormone response of male homosexuals almost identical with these females and significantly different from male heterosexuals. Similar results are found in male-to-female transsexuals. Studies, using stringent classification of research subjects, show adult male heterosexuals have significantly higher levels of male hormones than do male homosexuals. In animals with litters along a placental line, female mammals between male mammals cause post-natal sex-stereotypic male behaviors (e.g., sexual mounting and aggression) in these females. Dorner hypothesizes that various in humans prenatal and postnatal hormonal administrations may be used to establish specific brain sex/gender outcomes.

            Upsetting a female mammal during gestation can produce cross-gendered offspring. Stress apparently lowers androgens in humans and crowding causes stress resulting in anomalous social behavior and cross-gendered behavior in mammals. A similar phenomenon occurs in post hoc research on some homosexual research subjects. Twice the numbers of male homosexuals were born in war-ravaged Germany during World War II than the six years before or after the war.

            Pheromones and Sexual Orientation

            The vomeronasal system, adjacent to the olfactory system, mediates sexual interest for both males and females. Findings indicate pheromones play an important role in the identification of sexual objects at a subconscious level. For male homosexuals research has shown a clearly female neurological and social response to pheromones produced by males. In addition, preference for human body odors are influenced by gender and sexual orientation.

            Genetics and Neuroendocrinology.

            Augmenting decades old and contemporary research showing more homosexuals are born as the age of the mother increases, recent research implicates H-Y antigens (resulting from previous male births) increase the probability of adult homosexuality and lack of heterosexual cohabitation by as much as 33 percent. The sibling sex ration, without implicating H-Y antigen, suggests that approximately 10% of the variance in male homosexual behavior can be accounted for sibling sex-ratio. Androgen-insensitives (XY females) and partial-androgen insensitives, illustrate the power of genetics in creating a divergence of genetic gender from both behavioral and anatomic gender. XX females born with male genitalia and behavioral masculinization present a clear case for biologically induced cross gendering. Many chromosomal anomalies (e.g., X deletion ring, ring X or isochrome X, missing X, XXXX, XYY, XX/XY, X0/XY, XXY/XX, XXY/XY, X0/XX, etc.) are contributing factors to sexual orientation, level of intellect, performance of tasks, etc. Identical twins are usually concordant in sexual orientation. Identical twins discordant for sexual orientation can be explained by biological events and reluctance of some to reveal their homosexuality. There is one study, dealing with 61 pairs of twins and three sets of triplets. In one case all the triplets were homosexual. Genetic linkage analysis, using extended families, of the X chromosome suggests some familial male homosexuality is likely genetic and passed down the maternal line. A recent study using only homosexual siblings, found through advertisements in Gay newspapers and magazines, using a limited number of markers without the comparisons in extended families called into question the genetic theory of homosexuality. Studies of the genetic contribution to homosexuality are often marred by poor subject selection, precise definitions of behavior, over generalization, inadequate methodology, etc. Based on many studies of male homosexual twins, using very conservative statistical formulae, heritable factors may account for 44 percent of cases. Research on twins, families, and the adopted implicates genetic or neurohormonal origins for sexual orientation.

            The argument against genetic factors because homosexuals seldom marry is fallacious. Male homosexuals, subjected to social pressure to marry, often have offspring. Even if homosexuals did not reproduce, the gene pool would still contain recessive traits, sport genes, and neuro-hormonal influences in-utero leading to cross-gendering.

            Surgery and brain compromise.

            Evidence from neurosurgery challenges the archetypic myth that persons, based on genital sex determination at birth, will exhibit “gender appropriate” or “heterosexual” behavior in adolescence and adulthood. The first such evidence comes from data on pre-frontal lobotomy patients , some being treated for agitated depression. Following surgery, some patients became “spontaneously” homosexual. In line with Money’s comments about sex hormone ratios in some depressives, many of these patients had significant depressive illness. Apparently, when the frontal area of the brain could no longer suppress underlying homosexual drives, these
            pseudoheterosexuals reverted to their normal homosexual preoccupation. In follow-up, patients reported being able to suppress homosexual urges over a long period.
            Clinical data shows that as the brain deteriorates with aging, some pseudoheterosexuals are unable to mask their underlying homosexuality.

            In some countries, homosexuals have been “treated” surgically to force heterosexual behavior. Psychosurgery of the sex behavior center reduces or eliminates homosexual responding in some homosexual males. Many patients, without psychotherapeutic intervention, become heterosexually active after surgery. Some become asexual and have no sexual interest. Psychosurgery in lesbians results in fewer behavioral changes. After these psychosurgeries, failure to follow-up patients and adverse side-effects are reported, including death from infection. A German government commission has called for the elimination of these surgeries. Psychosurgeries to change sexual orientation are not available in the United States.

            Some males are accidentally mutilated during circumcision. Because of the ease of a male to female
            change, they are often sexually reassigned as females. Some of these “females” are masculine in behavior and many are “lesbian” during adulthood.

            Research shows changes in sexual orientation can result from viral attack of the human sex-behavior center, head injuries, and tumors. Psychosocial stressors leading to pseudo-sexuality and neurological insult or injury are apparently the only means of significantly altering the expression of sexual orientation. Excepting neurological changes, no credible sex researcher in the last fifty years has suggested sexual orientation changes after childhood. Most agree biological factors often mediate sexual orientation.

            Psychophysiology.

            Autonomic pupillary and penile reflexes, minimally controlled by conscious processes, reliably differentiate between male heterosexuals and homosexuals. Male homosexual behavior can be reduced or eliminated using painful electric shock or apomorphine vomiting with or without desensitizing male homosexual to females. Ego-dystonic homosexuals “self-referred” or sent by “government social service agencies” often have psychopathology and marked homophobia. Homophobia” is best characterized as a revulsion related to homosexual practices or openly homosexual persons. Many “cured” male homosexuals continue to have powerful homosexual urges without erectile function with sexual partners. Despite protracted aversive intervention, male homosexuals continue to have autonomic pupil responses to male stimuli. Aversion therapy and other invasive
            treatments are punitive and pose serious ethical concerns.

        • Ann M

          According to the Tabler’s Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary, the male and female sexual organs are defined as:

          Penis: The male organ of copulation and in mammals, urination. It is a cylindrical pendulous organ suspended from the front and sides of the pubic arch. It is homologous with the clitoris in the female (1457 -1458).

          Vagina: A musculomembranous tube that forms the passageway between the cervix uteri and the vulva. PHYSICAL: A passage for the intromission of the penis, for the reception of semen, and the discharge of menstrual flow; and the passage way through which the fetus is delivered (2104).

          Sex: 1.The characteristic that differentiates males and females in most plants and animals. 2. Motivation, both psychological and physiological, for behavior associated with procreation and erotic pleasure (1787).

          The online American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, defines the anus as: the opening at the lower end of the alimentary canal through which solid waste is eliminated from the body (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language).

          A 2003 WebMD article on High-Risk Behavior describes the purpose of the rectum:

          The main function of the rectum is to act as a passage way for feces. Without a condom, anal sex can facilitate the transmission of STDs better than any form of sex; it can also cause urinary tract infections and other bacterial diseases. The rectal wall curves and is thin and therefore long hard objects can tear your insides” (Rosenthal).

          According to Anonymous, M.D., if you compare the rectum to the vagina as a passage for the intromission of the penis one has to be mindful of the following facts.

        • Ann M

          According to Anonymous, M.D., if you compare the rectum to the vagina as a passage for the intromission of the penis one has to be mindful of the following facts.

          The rectum has a different structure than the vagina. As part of the gastrointestinal system, it has a lining whose primary function is absorption, bringing in molecules of food and water. The pH is higher. Most important, the rectal lining – the barrier to be breached –is only one cell wall thick. Below that delicate lining are blood vessels and target cells. Elastic fibers are absent.

          M cells are abundant in a healthy human rectum. Their function is to bring a sample of foreign, potentially dangerous particles for identification and response by the body’s defense system. An M cell wants to attract microbes, so its surface is sticky, and it can fold over a virus or bacteria, engulf it, and bring it inside a pocket. The pocket moves to the other end of the M cell, to immune cells that process the microbe and determine the appropriate response – ignore it or rally against it.

          Along comes HIV. It subverts the system, turning M cells into an express lane for invasion. The virus is packaged, transported, and handed over to immune cells that are one in the same as the target cells the virus must reach to cause disease. So M cells facilitate the virus’s job; they FedEx HIV directly to a lymphocyte – delivery takes 10 minutes.

          • DuneDude

            With information like this no wonder the physician is anonymous. He would be booted from the AMA for fraud.

        • Ann M

          here are no M cells in the vagina. This is not to say transmission of HIV cannot happen there – it can. But for infection to occur, there must be some weakening of the system: an infection, bleeding, an open sore, trauma, or cancerous cells.

          This is because the vagina has some built-in properties in the vaginal lining that gives it more protection against infection. It also has a low pH, which inactivates HIV and mucus that contains anti-HIV proteins. Its lining is 20 to 45 cells thick which makes it more difficult for the virus to travel. Under the lining are many elastic fibers where target cells are found. After that, there is a layer of muscle and more elastic fiber. Unlike the rectum, the design of the vagina allows for significant stretching without a lot of tears or abrasions.

          Research has indicated that HIV is unable to reach target cells in the human vagina under normal circumstances.

          HIV’s main goals, like most microbes, include finding a home and reproducing. And there is no doubt that the virus has an easier time achieving this goal in the rectum more than any other place in the human body (Anonymous MD 67-70).

          Based on this information alone, we know with an absolute certainty that the anus and rectum were not designed with sex in mind, which is why there are so many physically harmful consequences when using these parts of the anatomy for that purpose. This is a fact either dismissed or ignored by the proponents of homosexual behavior.

          • DuneDude

            Why are all your “M” cells in your throat?

        • Ann M

          “HOMOSEXUALITY OCCURS IN NATURE” ARGUMENT

          Certainly it has been established that homosexual behavior occurs amongst non-human animals. While this may be true, so does forced sex, infanticide, cannibalism, eating the young, random and merciless killings and all sorts of other behavior that we deem unacceptable in the human world. Humans are rational beings that possess a moral conscience, whereas the lower animals do not and primarily operate on instinct. The possession of a moral conscience is counted as one of the major distinctions between human and non-human animals. And it is because of this distinction that we ought not to look to the behavior of non-human animals as models or justifications for human behavior.

          PSYCHOLOGY

          • DuneDude

            Why use the word “Psychology.?” You are obviously not a licensed psychologist. You might want to read an authoritative book that is current on the subject of nature and homosexuality: Bagemihl. B. (1999). Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity. New York: St. Martin’s Press.

        • Deborah

          Lesbians are married to men at some point but that’s not the point! The point is that when they are lesbians they cannot reproduce just like a homosexual. Homosexuality isn’t the result of chromosomes. It’s the result of the lack of therapy and medication because it’s a mental illness. Right up there with pedophiles. You are so off base with your facts that the gay community has taught you. Lies. All lies. Deception. You compare humans to animals? Wow. That would be science at it’s best! Being gay is the most unnatural thing in the entire world. It’s not beautiful. Love is beautiful. Being gay is sexual perversion unleashed.

          • DuneDude

            20% of male homosexuals are married to women and have children. The sisters of male homosexuals have 1.3 times the children as their heterosexual counterparts and lesbians are still lesbian when they are married to men and have children. If it were not for heterosexual sex, there wouldn’t be any homosexuals of any kind, except possible some due to sport genes and no sex with the opposite sex. Both heterosexuals and homosexuals engage in homosexual sex. In fact research shows, that the first sexual contact for most heterosexuals is with a male friend of the same age. They don’t become homosexual because of these experiences just as sexual victims in prisons who are heterosexual do not become homosexual. And, the first sexual experience for male homosexuals is with a heterosexual female in an attempt to prove they are heterosexual. Doesn’t seem to work, but hell sex is sex. I keep asking you uninformed to read my paper, “Sexual Orientation: Science and Society” from dr.murphy@att.net. You are afraid that facts might corrupt your delusions.

      • TheJohnykat

        Many heterosexual couples are also unable to reproduce, most due to problems that occur naturally (in nature). So, as per usual, your bigoted point is completely invalid.

        • DuneDude

          Unfortunately many wish to remain in denial and ignorance rather than dispassionately and carefully study a subject in depth are in the majority. A few minutes of reading may be difficult for many, but knowledge is the light we seek. Unfortunately, no amount of facts seem to sway religiously motivated bigots. I know Christ would be proud to associate with today’s LGBT community and perform their marriages. In fact, early writing suggest Christ performed a same-sexed marriage and it was approved in the early church, before the Romans set Christianity into their image.

        • Ann M

          Many heterosexual couples are not able to reproduce: NO, YOU DON’T SAY. Homosexual couple-hood is inherently sterile whereas heterosexual couple-hood produces humans. Let me put it in terms that a leftist fool like you can understand. Take two couples of childbearing age – one homosexual and the other heterosexual and put them on separate islands and come back in 50 years. Which coupling will lead to the survival of the human race? Nature is not politically correct. Again, according to your standards, she must be a bigot.

          • TheJohnykat

            I’m sorry, Ann, I’m sure you had a point, but all I really got out of that was “blah blah blah, I’m an angry worthless cunt, blah blah blah”. Go crawl back in your hole, the world doesn’t need relics like you.

      • Jim Hall

        You are one hateful person. You cannot honestly call yourself Christian. How dare you lie about science, religion, and life to reduce my dignity.

        • Ann M

          Truth is hate to those who hate truth. Clearly you know nothing about Christianity to make such a ridiculous statement about me. Violation of the natural law for humans reduces human dignity; and in the case of homosexuality degrades the very purpose of sex. The human body is designed to work a certain way and males are designed to have sex with females – which is why male homosexuality produces horrific diseases. The anus was designed for eliminating waste not sex. That is a fact: violating the natural purpose of human sexuality is degrading to nature and nature’s god.

          • Deborah

            Well said Ann. The pervs don’t like to hear that!

    • TG

      Whose life has he “destroyed”? Over react much?

      • DuneDude

        Not hyperbole. There are any number of youth who believe in Phil and become depressed about their being different in sexual orientation. He is helping to ruin their lives and destroy their sense of their own natural sexuality. Many who try to become ex-gays, an impossibility, commit suicide. Now if that isn’t destructive what is. Maybe your blind faith in Phil as representing any god is delusional.

        • TG

          No he’s not.

          One of, if not the most, asinine claim I’ve seen. Actually blaming Phil’s personal views for another’s depression?

          Wow.

          • DuneDude

            BS. You are a liar and an idiot. Phil’s discourse is meant to shame and put down people for their normal sexuality based on their individual neurology. You are likely uneducated and have never been in a biomedical library in your life. If you think that a singing “sensation” doesn’t effect the lives of youth, think again. There are probably a few dead young people already because of Phil, POS.

          • TG

            You are beyond delusional. Go see a mental health professional before you harm yourself or others.

          • Deborah

            Yeh. You can’t talk to this DuneDude. He’s so deceived into believing that what he thinks is true, which, you have to really feel sorry for him. The devil has really blinded his mind. But he has chosen and now he just argues against anyone and everything that differs from his twisted thinking. The attacks are the worst. You can just feel his hatred and anger can’t you?

          • DuneDude

            I am a mental health professional and my work on sexual orientation is well accepted internationally. But, those who accept it can read biomedical literature. Something you couldn’t even attempt.

          • TG

            The fact you specifically blame PR shows me that the phrase “physician heal thyself” is appropriate for you.

            Let me guess – you hate all Christians.

          • DuneDude

            Hardly, I am a pastor who is active with my parishioners, who are not a deluded bunch of children like you Ann, Deborah, Phil, etc. Why would anyone hate all Christians, most agree with Christ that you should not judge others. You are one of those so-called Christians who refuses to live your life in the love of Jesus Christ.

          • DuneDude

            I am not a physician, I am a retired psychologist who is not in need of any healing physical or mental. I was given an extremely high I.Q. by God and have accepted His challenge to take on those who pervert Christ’s love of all mankind.

          • Deborah

            Phil speaks the truth and for guys like you that don’t want to hear the truth, it’s painful because you live in your own reality. Isn’t that what you said about guys like Phil? Remember that when you point a finger at someone, three are pointing back at you.

          • DuneDude

            Deborah you wouldn’t know the truth if God Himself told it to you. I don’t hate Phil, I am extremely disappointed that such a POS should be putting out false information to harm young gays who know nothing of the facts about the reason people have differing sexual orientations. Obvious you to are extremely ignorant and uneducated. You have never been in a biomedical library in your life and I doubt any reputable medical school would let you in the door.

          • DuneDude

            His truth is “stool drool.”

          • Deborah

            Right?

        • Deborah

          The only reason those who try to become ex gays that commit suicide is because their minds were poisoned by the gays let alone confused by them. Talk to those that used to be gay and they’ll tell you a different story my friend. It has nothing to do with Phil! I assure you. There are many success stories that disagree with what the gay community dishes out just like a cult. When you break free from it you find out that you were lied to for years just to keep you in bondage. YOU are in bondage my dear. I hope you get out of it before you breathe your last breath.

          • DuneDude

            That is just tortured logic. There are too many reputable medical studies out there to disprove your remarks and now states are outlawing so-called “reparative therapy.”

    • Deborah

      Are you his friend? Did you grow up with him? Are you a family member? Then shut up. You speak like you know the guy personally and you do not. All I read from your comment was he, he, he, he, he, he. You are a judge and the jury. If you knew anything about “tolerance” you would tolerate. I think people like you create those symbols of hatred that can be used to pinpoint divisiveness on any topic. You need to research science and find out why it exists. People take everything that comes out of science as FACT and it’s not. There have been many scientists that have walked away from real science because of the ignoramus of many of them.

      • DuneDude

        Do they know you are using the mental institutions computers or have you escaped?

      • DuneDude

        I wouldn’t want to know him personally. He and his buddies would probably take me into a barn and molest me.

      • DuneDude

        I believe Christ when he said it would be harder for a rich man to get into heaven than go through the eye of a needle. The needle comment is about a low gate for camels to pass into Jerusalem. What did you think it was?

  • Ann Gwaltney

    OMG Guess what he has a opinion just like you Dumbass

  • Mark

    As a believer and follower in Christ and the Holy Bible. I have always supported Phil long before Duck Dynasty. Everyone has their own opinion. With all the bad stuff on reality tv and shows with gay and prostitution and actors. Everyone accepts their issues and its ok but let one Christian voice what he believes and its all wrong. Well I know in the end how it will all come out. Good luck non believers as Christians we will pray for you and invite you to church to learn about Christ for you to take control of your life. Go to church and pickup the Bible and read it. It will do you great ask someone that does and they will share it with you.

    • DuneDude

      When you and Phil get to hell, I hope you tell him you think he actually knows something about the Bible which was provided by the Roman Government so Constantine’s wife, a Christian, could have her “god” recognized. Constantine continued throughout his life to worship Roman deities. It is said he converted on his death bed (LOL). I have studied the Christian Bible in English, Koine, Aramaic, German, and Hebrew. You need to read a little more. In the Old Testament, the Ten Commandments do not include homosexual behavior (Deuteronomy 5.11-21) and the seven acts most detestable to God (Proverbs 6.16-19: “haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and a man who sows discord among brothers” do not mention sexual misconduct. In the New Testament, Christ never mentioned homosexuality and asked for understanding and restraint of condemnation in sexual matters (John 8.1-11). The Bible never discusses homosexuality in the context of committed relationships or within the Gay community. In I Corinthians 6.9-10, as translated by some into English, St. Paul (coming from a cross-cultural Hebrew, Greek, and Roman perspective) discusses pagan sanctioned temple (cult) male prostitutes (πρvoι, pornos), effeminate males or catamites (μαλακoί, malakos), and homosexuals (aρσεvoκoiται, arsenokoitai). St. Paul’s statements taken literally, as translated into English, would condemn celibate effeminate homosexuals. Boswell, using Koine Greek contemporary to St. Paul, translations into other languages, and early Christian scholarship and commentaries on I Corinthians 6.9-10 convincingly argues St. Paul was not discussing homosexuals or homosexuality.

      Saint Augustine, considered Pauline, admitted homosexual practices with much anguish. When Saints John Chrysostom and Augustine–both vehemently opposed to homosexuality–comment on I Corinthians 6.9-10, neither mentions homosexuality. St. Augustine’s major apologist, Martin Luther, wrote derisively of homosexuals, but translated “ρσεvoκoται” as “Knabenschänder,” or child molester. In fact, in the Koine Greek of the time of writing, the only translation is “child molester.” The Christian Emperor, Justinian, who herded whole villages into rivers to be baptized so they could die in Christ, believed homosexuality caused earthquakes, famines, and pestilence and legislated homosexual behavior should be subjected to penance much like adultery. His wife, Theodora, avoiding abortion, had many of her illegitimate children murdered, even one taken to a foreign land who returned as an adult.

      • Deborah

        The good news out of this DuneDude is that you’re in the Word. I hope God grabs hold of your heart and that you have a road to Damascus experience. Seriously. You need one.

        • DuneDude

          Saul didn’t have any psychiatric medications for his delusions and hallucinations. I don’t need his experience or your experience of being an ignorant lunatic.

    • Deborah

      Mark, did you see how DuneDude responded to you? That’s what we’re dealing with here. You can tell the devils’ time is short because his followers are mean, nasty, foul mouthed, insulting, angry and full of hate. They are basically all the same too. I’ve not met one that I can talk to on a rational level and they don’t just do this with men. This DuneDude is talking to women like this too on this particular story. It’s hurtful and hateful and I come before God many times asking Him how I can deal with this because it is very difficult to reach out and talk to people that believe what they believe and then they insult you in return. They don’t even know you. You can’t even have a conversation with them. I saw nothing wrong with what you wrote Mark and yet you were assaulted for what you said. Unbelievable. Well, actually it’s believable considering …

      • DuneDude

        As a pastor, along with having been licensed as a psychologist in the Commonwealth of MA, #779, and State of California, #5626, your belief that your false religious beliefs will help you are just part of your mental illness and ignorance. They don’t have to do together, but you make such a great case for someone suffering from advanced brain syphilis or some other organic mental disorder. You and Phil should have children together. Then we could build a huge mental institution for the entire family.

  • Jim Hall

    I’m much to busy perfecting my “Gay Lifestyle” to hate Mr. Robertson.

    • DuneDude

      You don’t need to perfect a thing. Enjoy the sexual life that God has given you and rejoice in the Lord for not making you anything like Phil Robertson. I don’t hate Phil Robertson, but I do feel sorry that he has walled himself in with so much ignorance.

      • Deborah

        Yes, go ahead. Encourage the perversion. This is why people who try to go ex gay commit suicide. It’s because of guys like you who encourage them in the behavior. God didn’t give gays the sexual perversion they have chosen. Rejoice in the Lord?? Oh no, my dear. Surely not. You DO hate Phil Robertson. Re-read your posts. For you to say you don’t hate him is a lie. Phil speaks the truth and it doesn’t match up with your perversion so continue on in it.

        • DuneDude

          Just because people like him and you are POSs doesn’t mean I hate you. And, Hitler, who ate feces for sexual thrills would love both of you. He could have a feast. Why don’t you go to hell and let Hitler enjoy a real meal?

  • Zach

    Tolerance and Diversity have been the battle cry of the homosexual community for a long time, and I agreed with them. However, that is far from what they practice, and that is where I part ways with them. The HYPOCRISY from the homosexual community is glaring as they point the finger at Christians for being hypocritical. No group has been so Intolerant and unaccepting of diverse opinions than the modern homosexual movement. It’s beyond ridiculous.

    • DuneDude

      Christians, Muslims, and Jews all from the same faith base have murdered more people in the name of their God than all the other religions in the world. Surprised you are so happy with these murdering losers.

    • Deborah

      Right? And the comment by DuneDude back to you proves it. They are bullies.

      • DuneDude

        I am not any part of the gay community and am not part of “they.” I am an independent medical professional who has done his research from data around the world. You appear to be a loser who can’t do anything but regurgitate false interpretations of the Bible made in English and often mistranslated.

  • JamSwar85

    I cook and carry my Bible everywhere I go so I think Phil said it very well. I think what led to the “fall” of Duck Dynasty is rerunning the show over and over and over…and over. The show is too “scripted”. I know they are acting themselves and they aren’t pretending to be anyone who they aren’t but they are given certain real-life scenarios to “act out” and it just gets old. My family and I loved to watch them but back in about January or February of this year it got to where we couldn’t catch anything but the old reruns, the new reruns, and all of the in-betweens.

    • DuneDude

      I hope you don’t get your Bible too greasy while cooking.

      • JamSwar85

        I use recipe books when I cook. Just kidding. Don’t need them.
        What’s it to you, anyway, what happens to my Bible? I keep the words in my heart so whether I go blind or the words fade right off the pages it really wouldn’t matter either way.

        • DuneDude

          Christ was the “Alpa” to the “Omega” and thus had all scientific knowledge that was and ever would be that is why he does not mention sins related to same-sexed behavior. It is no wonder the Saul of Tarsus in his delusions continued to believe as a former member of the Jewish Sanhedrin in any number of issues, particularly related to sexuality which were not part of Christ’s life or beliefs. Christ was compassionate helped all who came to Him as their Savior. Christ tells us not to judge. Attempting to put your religious values onto others is against Christ and the Constitution of the United States. I believe I keep good company in our Founding Fathers.

          Founding Fathers on Separation of Church and State

          “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”

          – George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia (1789)

          “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”

          – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr (1787)

          “In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the
          different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and both by precept and example inculcated on mankind.”

          – Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists (1771)

          “Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but
          it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law. Take away the law-establishment, and every religion re-assumes its original benignity.”

          – Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man (1791)

          “Congress has no power to make any religious
          establishments.”

          – Roger Sherman, Congress (1789)

          “The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of
          reason.”

          – Benjamin Franklin, Poor
          Richard’s Almanack (1758)

          “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the
          whole American people build a wall of separation between Church & State.”

          – Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Danbury Baptists (1802)

          “To argue with a man who has renounced the use of
          reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”

          – Thomas Paine, The American Crisis No. V (1776)

          “Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.”

          – Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom (1779)

          “Christian establishments tend to great ignorance and
          corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects.”

          – James Madison, letter to William Bradford, Jr. (1774)

          “To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”

          – Thomas Paine, The American

          Crisis No. V (1776)

          “Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.”

          – Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for

          Establishing Religious Freedom (1779)

          “Christian establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of
          mischievous projects.”

          – James Madison, letter to William Bradford, Jr. (1774)

          “There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature.
          Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness.”

          – George Washington, address to
          Congress (1790)

          “There is nothing which can better deserve our
          patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness.”

          – George Washington, address to
          Congress (1790)

          ‌”The United States of America is founded in no sense on the Christian religion.” – George Washington

          “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should
          never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.” – George Washington

          ‌”This would be the best possible world if there was no religion in it.” – John Adams

          “Christianity is the most perverse system that ever shone on man.” –
          Thomas Jefferson

          “I find the Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies.” – Benjamin Franklin

          “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.” – James Madison

          “When I see throughout this book, called the Bible, a history of the grossest vices and a collection of the most paltry and contemptible tales and stories, I could not so dishonor my Creator by calling it by His name.” –
          Thomas Paine

          • JamSwar85

            I don’t care! You’re only wasting your time with me. I know the Truth. The Living Truth. The Breathing Truth. The ONLY Truth! You will never sway my mind one way or another so stop your crap! I don’t care what you think or what you think you know because you don’t. End of story. Allllll of that idle “blah, blah, blah” that you typed up there was for nothing because it is nothing and it will always be nothing. End of story. Thank you!

        • Deborah

          Amen JamSwar85! And I do the same :).

      • Deborah

        There you go again! You just cannot let it go. Nobody is saying anything to insult you yet you throw an insult back. I hope you carry a weapon because if you walk around talking to people the way you talk online? Man. I wouldn’t doubt it if someone punched you in the throat.

  • Theresa

    I don’t care if he doesn’t care. I don’t hate him. I think he’s a misogynistic prick. I don’t lose sleep over the likes of phonies like this guy on Dick Dynasty.

    • Deborah

      Theresa. Do you eat with that mouth? Wow.

      • Theresa

        Oh dear did you get the vapors because I called that stupid wannabe redneck a dick?
        Grow up dear.

      • Theresa

        Deborah dear – do you give a lot of BJs with yours?

        • DuneDude

          No man would allow Deborah near their genitals. She would probably start on their rectum and eat their gonads.

  • Michael Chapman

    More to the point, why should we care what Phil Robertson cares about? Is my opinion somehow rendered moot unless Robertson cares about it? Or is it his income or his “millions of American” fans that negate my 1st Amendment rights? Please explain.

  • jlk2

    Phil is right GAY IS NOT THE WAY!!!!!! REPENT and sin no more

    • DuneDude

      Why do all you losers have to shout by using all capital letters?

  • Taylor

    Everyone is filled with so much hatred for one another. It sickens me. I will pray for you all every night just as I pray for this country. Homosexuality is a sin no matter what kind of spin you try to put on it. However, fornication, lieing, being drunk, lust, coveting are also all sins and are equal to homosexuality. One is not a bigger sin than the other. I do not hate anyone. I only hate how we are acting and treating one another. Jesus is coming back soon and we need to do our best to lead the lost to Him before it’s too late. Pray constantly.

    • DuneDude

      No, I don’t hate I just consider homosexuals be drunks, liars, etc. LOL!

    • Barneym

      Amen Taylor. I like what you say, especially with all the other “hate’ I’ve been reading here.

  • jlk2

    Rome fell because of the immoral acts of its citizens, We have a immoral president in Obama, and he and the Democraps are taking America Down. I pray for change. Democraps and their special interest groups should be outlawed if anything.

    • DuneDude

      You believe the Gibbons. What a fool you are. History shows that the Roman empire fell under the Christians. Read and learn. But, that would probably be impossible for you and Phil.

  • Deborah

    What’s the point of this story again? Hey I stand with Phil. My beliefs and how i feel about stuff is where I take the same stand. I don’t care if you hate me either. I believe what I believe and you won’t shove any of your opinions and beliefs down my throat. That’s what’s wrong with society today. Instead of agreeing to disagree, you want to win with what you think is right and that’s wrong. Society lacks respect for what someone truly believes. So what if Phil said what he said? That’s what he believes and he has every right to believe that. So my response to any of you that trash talk that? STFU.

    • DuneDude

      If you are standing with Phil, just how deep is the feces you are eating?

  • AUBREY GUY

    GOD CREATED ADAM & EVE – NOT ADAM & STEVE !LET”S SEE STEVE HAVE A BABY !

  • http://wmur.com/ Popn1NH

    No one gives a f—- about him . He just got lucky fag!!

  • http://wmur.com/ Popn1NH

    They all did f’n queers

  • willis

    Too bad we don’t have more theologians who believe the Word of God. The ones who wrote for the above article are twisting the scripture to say what they want it to – to please people, but God is not too pleased with them. The Bible leaves no doubt that homosexuality is not only a sin, but also called an abomination to a holy God.
    I admire any man who is not ashamed to stand on his beliefs instead of switching his view point with whoever he happens to be with. A reminder: In the interview, Phil was “asked” what he believed and he simply told the truth. Hollywood and Washington have been telling us: what is right is now wrong and what is wrong is now right. Mainstream America is not buying it.