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  1. The advertising industry in general is ushering in a new era of communication. PPC is simply a branch in a technology-driven transformative industry. The comments made about PPC would also apply to print ads. But the good news is that technology provides the tools to refine and solve issues like relevance, trust and cost. Advertising, technology and the consumer will progress together.

    • Mark Hedtke

      Just go on believing that fairy tale and there is stock I’d like to sell you in most of the newspapers out there. For the truth of the matter, check out how much their subscriptions are down. Look at the balance sheets for almost any newspaper and that stark truth will hit you right in your pocketbook. Businesses are seeing their sales are off enough that they are looking to other places to get exposure, why do you think the PPC industry began in the first place? It’s a trial ballon that has a serious leak. Some traditional advertisers are still hanging onto each in the hopes of a turn around. It is needless to say, however it also is the economy. Mark my words, America’s boom is going south because the Dollar is being so heavily devalued with China and the Middle Eastern cartel. The artificially pumped up economy won’t be sustained. The average Joe will take the brundt of loss of business in the states. The good news, we still have our freedom!

  2. I have stopped advertising with Google using AdWords as the CPC cost for the keywords have gone up way too high. I have a web design firm in India and used to advertise both outside and within India. The CPC for keywords targeting foreign markets has gone up more than $1 per click. Anything less than that and you will be lucky to find yourself on the last page of the sponsored ad list. And moreover you pay Google more than you earn now. This was definately not the case 4-5 months back. I got very good business both from within and outside India. However, this just isn’t the case any more. Even CPC within India itself has shot up drastically. My advertisements in the newspaper gives me a much higher ROI. I really doubt if Adwords is worth it anymore.

  3. Dear Mr. Ord,

    Very good article, however, I believe that Google is very much still at the forefront of the Adsense phenomenon. The eye is always hungry, and even though, their may be an overuse of such ads on sites, the wise Webmaster places such Adsense Ads relevantly. That’s the major difference in getting or not getting clicks.

    I hope Google continues it’s great work in meeting and anserwing the needs of the WEB.

    timesQuare VIP

    • Hi, very nice article, but i think PPC will never die, cause it a big industry within. You must keep silence and make our money :)

  4. And Google should quit being so arbitrary in their concern about “offensive material” being displayed next to their adverts. They have no such compunction when the searches are on their search engine. They display adverts for some pretty disgusting stuff there.

    But they are quite strict with some blogs and web sites.

    I have a moderately popular blog–that is primarily political (libertarian oriented–which fits in with Google’s philosophy)), but sometimes naughty in a PG Wonkette or Playboy kind of way. I continually had trouble with them blanking out ads on particular post and putting up Public Service Announcements. Sometimes I would write a short piece talking about their nanny ways.

    And then last weekend for no particular reason they suddenly cut off all adverts. I have asked for an explanation, but so far have received nothing.

    I am really baffled why they decided to cut off the adverts at that time–the post was a music review of all things. But I do not know if I will ever find out.

    I replaced the ads with Bidvertiser–but that is not as lucrative as Google by any stretch. However, I would rather do that than kow tow to the arrogant Mountain View folks–especially since I really did not do anything wrong or offensive.

    I am sure I am not the only person who has had the experience. But though I am popular, I am not big enough to really matter to them.

    ~Becky

    • Rich Ord

      Hi Becky,

      Could you please send me some contact information at richord @ ientry.com. This is a general topic we will be writing about in the future.

      Thanks,

      Rich Ord CEO, iEntry, Inc. Publisher of WebProNews

    • Becky-

      I also was cut off from Adsense last week with no specific explanation, other than to get an email stating that somehow my site “violated the terms of service”. Great – can they maybe specify which one? I never clicked on the ads, never told my users to, and so I’m left to conclude that somehow they decided that my URL (nastynest.net) was some how “nasty”.

      For what it is worth, it is a fan site for the Atlanta Thrashers. Nasty Nest is a play on “Nastiness”. Since Thrashers are birds, and we tend to dislike other teams, Nasty Nest seemed like the perfect name.

      We don’t have any nekked photos or anything like that, but I do resist censorship so I’m totally okay with people using profanity on my message boards. Maybe that’s what set Google off?

      Another thought, and I don’t really want to believe this, is that by banning, and withholding payment, Google gets to keep the income they get from the ads, PLUS they don’t have to pay me at all – and there seems to be nothing I can do about it. If there is a customer service number for the adsense team, they have it buried under a rock someplace.

      I feel that Google is asking for a class-action lawsuit – they need to have a real and viable method to tell people specifically why they’ve been banned, and they also need a real and viable method for people to file an appeal. The Draconian methods they employ are simply not fair to their “partners”.

  5. PPC seems to still be going pretty strong, but competition with Google is getting really heavy and it’s difficult for new guys to get in there in the top positions.

    You mentioned Pay Per Action…what exactly constitutes an “action”?

    And who does it?

    • Rich Ord

      Hi Jeff,

      Cost-Per-Action is a test program Google announced in June 2006 where you could opt to pay only for a particular action. Actions you could pay for include filling out a form, signing up for something, clicking a second link for more information, etc…. Actions do not include actual product purchases.

      We wrote about it at WebProNews here and here and here.

      Rich Ord CEO, iEntry, Inc. Publisher of WebProNews

      • hi there, was wondering you could help me out, my application for google adsense was rejected, reason; “page type”. thanks

  6. I think that if Pay-Per-Click is going to be over, so will also be the Cost-Per-Action. The answer is simple: In order for people to get to the intended website and register, they first need to click on an ad of some sort. If they don’t click, they will not reach the site, and thus will not register or buy the product.

    Maybe there should be more CPM (Cost-Per-Mil) programs. It causes companies a fixed cost, and at least publishers are getting something for displaying the ads (thus reducing fraud rate – you either get visits, or don’t). Of course, engines would have to filter out publisher websites who would sign up for CPM with the sole purpose of spam, but this is also true for every other ad type.

  7. As a small business owner I have a need to get traffic that converts to sales. It becomes a simple dollars and sense ROI decision. If pay per click will bring me business then I will go with that until some other method comes along that offers a higher ROI (Return On Investment).

  8. I don’t think the pay per click party is over at all. I do, however, think that google is fixing to introduce something new and get out of the click biz as they have been.

    If you’re a publisher, lately your clicks seem to magically disappear from the report daily. Check one day and you have 150, later that day it is 130. Why? Nobody knows. I think they are skimming from publishers and that is why their profits went up.

    This would be shooting themselves in the foot. If publishers no longer want them they have no place to put the ads. Why would they do this? Google is not known for mistakes and being stupid. They’d do it because they have something new up their sleeve ready to launch and are going to dump the click stuff as it is now.

    Just a theory of mine… Time will tell.

  9. [QUOTE]There are many sites that exist solely to get “pay per click” clicks.[QUOTE]

    These types of sites are, indeed, an unfortunate off-shoot of Google’s ‘generosity’ in making the Adsense program available to web publishers. Nowadays, you can buy pre-built websites with pages of republishable articles pertinent to a popular keyword, search/replace your publisher ID, and, according to the sellers, become a millionaire in one year (actual results may vary, of course)! There are also scripts and programs for sale that claim to get articles from article suppositories and post them to WordPress blogs automatically. I marvel that these types of things still work. It’s basically the web 2.0 version of “Black-Hat” SEO. But, whenever I am searching for something, it seems at least one “made for Adsense” website comes up in the first three pages of search results. I don’t know if there are viable statistics on this, but I doubt it does good by the advertisers.

    I can only advise publishers that if you are publishing for anything other than promoting your own business directly, address a topic you have some passion for, as that is what will keep you going when you discover Adsense might only make you $50.00 per month! Strive to make a site that is useful to users who would have an interest in the topic of your site. A popular site and returning visitors are your best value. This would eventually give you the opportunity to sell your own advertising on the site, if what you really want is to make money from it. Google Adsense might be a way to help offset some hosting costs, but I don’t see it as the Gravy Train some make it out to be. And the more “built for Adsense” sites that keep popping up, the less effective they will become.

  10. As a small one man band internet based marketer I rely on PPC for my livelyhood. Click costs in the UK Insurance market are huge thanks to all the big boys.

    My savior was Overture until Panama came along. Prior to panama standard match was placed above advanced match in the ppc results meaning that pople bidding on niche phrases like “car insurance northern ireland” (around 20p) came above those who bid advanced match “car insurance” at several £’s per click.
    This meant that the PPC results were very relevant to the query.

    In Panama on subtle but not so well publicised change occured that instantly fattened the wallets of Yahoo. Standard match no longer got precedence over advanced match so overnight niches phrases were obliterated with PPC ads from top dollar bidders who where prepared to pay for “car insurance +anything”.

    Relevancey in ppc adswent out the window as Yahoo raked in more clicks on higher paying ads.

    This was a bitter pill for small nieche marketers like me as at the same time Yahoo bleated on about Panamas ranking alogorithm improving the quality and relevancy of PPC for the surfer.

    In my given example very few UK car insurers can quote for N iRELAND, so its a nieche market which I served well. Now my PPC is on page 4 not page 1 and I would have to pay over 10 times the bid price I had the day before. The user is now presented with ppc results that dont serve the N Ireland market but pay better for Yahoo.

    Sorry to rant, but the continual propaganda about paid search releveancy from Yahoo rings hollow when you see them ignore relevancy for profit, hit small business hard in the process.

    OOh if only Miva traffic converted better !!!

    Thaks for listening.

  11. I completely agree. I also want to expound
    a little.

    I believe most forms of advertising on the internet have lost their luster.Conversion rates in this business suck! What happened to the good ol days? You know, the ones where you could halfway rely on the people you were doing business with?

    I believe advertising anything in anyway needs to do a complete 180 and get back to the one fundamental truth. Establishing good solid relationships through personal contact as opposed to raw numbers should be priority one.

    If there was a way to exploit that and gain trust back in this vast platform of marketing then I believe the results would be astonishing!

    Maybe I’m an idealist hoping for the impossible. But it’s the impossible the revolutionized this world.

  12. jeff harvey

    A well written article and it does illustrate the challenges that marketers are faced with in providing a strong ROI for web based traffic and PPC initiatives. PPC Fraud is a significant risk for everyone and not necessarily in Googles interest to fix as it takes away from their short term revenue while challenging their long term business model. Marketers will need to become better at monetizing the qualified eyes that do view their site.

    For anyone that is looking to have a greater impact on visitors, I would recommend http://www.HookSell.com and their HookTour services.

    They have filled the gap between visitors and leads rather nicely with a direct sales approach to buying behaviors.

    Check out their 3 minute tour:

    http://hooktours.com/start/6045/

    Services of this type will continue to grow in an effort to further simplfy the education process for pay per click visitors that are qualified. Perhaps Google will eventually adopt a pay for performance model along the lines of a HookSell product for at least a higher quality PPC service with perhaps a premium added.

    If anyone has any other suggestions about how to better convert my PPC visitors I look forward to hearing their suggestions.

  13. Papadoc

    Oh, well here they go – just the latest salvo in the “Google is almost dead” (or AdSense in this case). Been hearing this for what – 5 or 6 years now?

    The reality is that both Google and AdSense have never been stronger. No, I don’t have an inside track, but I do own stock that has never been trading higher and, purchase ads that are just as competitive, and use AdSense that is paying as much as it ever has. Click-throughs – amazing so long as you have a viable topic, know how to place the ads, and make your site a place that people frequent for relevant information.

    Sure, there are twits in and out of the business that screw things up and probably hold things back a bit. A few knucklheads with worthless sites bomb their site with popups, banners and max out the AdSense ads on every page – and it doesn’t work.

    Google could be a bit more cautious with who they allow into the AdSense program and what sites are allowed to carry the format. Junk sites don’t do anything for the overall image and probably don’t help their revenue all that much. Tweedledee and Tweedledum sites would disappear or never get launched if it wasn’t for the lure that they could make a fortune by making yet another mega-click (e.g. meso) website and $50 per click. Lots of disgruntled naysayers coming out of that group.

    The model does work or Yahoo and MSN wouldn’t have gone to it… and they’ve been around in the business now that any affects that would have been felt would have surfaced by now.

    Is it perfect? No way – and I don’t think Google things so either or they wouldn’t be in a constant state of launching new parts to it. But going away? Call me when when you have more than speculation, and your thoughts are backed up by actual numbers, not wishful thinking.

  14. Thank you for writing this piece about pay per click. I don’t use pay per click advertising on my website for exactly the reasons you described. I prefer to stick with affiliate marketing for now because at least it’s easier to control what ads are placed on my website, than Adsense. As you said, Google has had a lot of success with them. But I wonder what they will come up with next when Adsense starts to decline in popularity?

  15. Hello Rich,

    PPC is not over. Until every advetiser “PERFECTS” his/her web engine… PPC format will disappear.

    There are many site that refuse to enter the PPC format, yet their web sites have a multitude of problems.

    Geoffrey

  16. Nothing is as damning as numbers. I have been involved in Internet Marketing since 1996. I have been an advertiser on Google, Yahoo and MSN for well over two years. The stats say it all -

    Two years ago click thru or conversion rates were running about 12% with the ads that I ran – organic results produced about 3%.

    Today click thru or conversion rates for paid ads (anywhere) are running <1%. – organic results produces 4.5%.

    The public has become blind to these ads.

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  18. we have been on the ppc market ourself and we can say that the business owners globally are not full aware of the potential quality ppc engines/networks can give them to their business.

    for sure we will see many new ways on showing ppc ads in the near future

  19. What do you mean when you say per click is over.I have never used Pay per click but know many people that do. What is there fate?

  20. I spent quite some time and a lot of money last year with Google Ads and Yahoo Search, at a monetary cost of around $10,000 but a personal time cost of much more than that – I obviously got immediate results, but these lasted seconds as soon as I cut back on the program. This year I revamped my sites, invested my time heavily in good SEO improvements, converted to CSS (very time consuming) but the results have been outstanding and much more permanent. PPC is a great way to get noticed quickly, but my experience tells me that real results come from hard work and solid page redevelopment, with a good SEO understanding. I think PPC gives results that are an illusion which disappear very quickly as soon as you cut back. It’s a fantastic money earner for Google et al, but web site owners like me do not receive lasting benefits. I assume that in different markets, the results will vary.

  21. Pay Per Click Advertising or CPC is a savior for the small, midsize, and even big guys websites that are just coming online. Since normally it can take 30 to 90 days to get listed and indexed in some search engines (we have gotten clients listed in Google in 7 days but is the exception) the pricing has gotten out of control at least for our client base.

    We are a Mexican Company providing optimized web design and search engine optimization and marketing for businesses in Mexico and some in the US and other countries as well. We are small and most of our clients (90%) are small as well and when we do optimization and marketing for a client we offer the CPC as an option to boost their unique visitors, it is not a replacement to good search engine optimization, good website planning, and good copy writting, but it is a plus.

    We have had some clients for years now over the past 6 months we have seen cost per click on some keywords and key phrases reach more than $5.00 just to be at the bottom. For most small businesses that are beginning on the web and particularly in Mexico that puts the cost of those keywords out of their reach and even for a client like one that we run a $2500 per month ad budget divided between Google, Yahoo, and MSN we had to drop those keywords since small numbers of visitors were consuming the daily budget.

    Where do we go from here? Once google is in the position to collect $5.00, $10, or even $20 US dollars for a click only the big guys will be advertising and google budgets will be like TV Ad and Radio Ad Budgets.

    We are looking at different marketing options and hopefully Pay Per Action will bump CPC or maybe the market will level off. Whatever the case, we are along for the ride and every turn with google is a lesson that every SEO or SEM needs to learn.

    Kevin

  22. Yes the party is over. It is still sucking up millions of dollars from the victims
    of unscrupulous Google advertising prices politix.
    It is close to impossible to make money thru PPC even after applying all the rules right.
    And its not because of congestion on net. It is because of Google advertising prices politix.

  23. R Seabrook

    When it costs $55 in PPC for a $60 product then the party is over.

  24. I agree with the comment that smaller companies are leaving – but think click fraud is also a major reason – we were #1 on free search – relevant – then we added PPC and found our “free” listing went down almost 10 pages – so we increased our PPC – Did I say relevant by the way? – now click my key words (we no longer go near google) and you get everything but the right product… and to boot – we proved that click fraud buried guys like us … we used to spend $1000 per month with google – now we spend -0- and we are not the only small business I know who gave up.

    Since the beginning we made a customer click for prices – we saw our “request” for pricing go from 98% down to less than 5% – if this is not click fraud – what is?… but our funds were “expended” to the max every day – early!!!!! So then we added prices – same conversion rate – down from 98% (phenomenal) to less than 5% … enough said????

    Goodbye google – etc … we are back to phones – email campaigns and trade shows.. and we were among the first to go with PPC in our field.

    Bob Lieberman, Managing Director
    Glass Packaging Solutions LLC

  25. I would like to address the issue of click fraud.

    I feel that we pay way too much for PPC, in order to get on the first page of any SERP’s. Then to have one of your competitor’s click away on your site, just out of spite, really ticks me off.

    If I want to visit a competitor’s site, I have the decency to type in their URL. Not just click on the sponsored add.

    If I do find out that any competitor commit’s click fraud on me, I will break him. Revengeful? You Betcha! But I will not start it.

    Yahoo! Search Marketing has an “Click Protection System that automatically filters out invalid clicks. I don’t know much about it now, but plan on looking in to it.

    Something must be done.

    The people that committ “Click Fraud” are just Grown Up Children, jelious of the product that their competitor’s have, that they wish, they did.

    If the “CF’rs” had a product “really” worth selling, they would’nt have to be costing other people money.

    Thanks for letting me have my say so.
    Richard

  26. I really don’t see PPC going away anytime soon. I would assume that changes will continue to be made, but the overall program will not leave. If PPC is done right, it can still be an effective means. I think plenty of people abuse AdSense, so it could be interesting to see what happens there.

  27. As A webmaster of several sites running adds for Google I have a suggestion, to enhance revenue from PPC for all parties concerned.

    About a year ago I reduced the amount of add space for PPC on my site’s pages by 50%.
    The result was a 20% higher click through rate from the same amount of impressions.

    I also restricted competing video and image adds from appearing on my pages.
    Google wrote to me and advised me that I would increase my revenue from PPC if I lifted the restrictions.

    I firmly believe that if Google restricted the amount of advertising going to every page,instead of soliciting webmasters to place more adds on their sites, the adds would get more favourable exposure.

    Personally if I have to sift past adds to get to the content on a site, I will leave the site and never return.

  28. Rich Ord is right! CPC costs for small businesses our going to drive them out of the market unless they are selling unique items with 1000′s of percent margains.

    We are a small business selling products for the food service industry. Our CPC bids requirements have doubled and for some keywords have more tripled in the last two months. I don’t know what the search engines(i.e. “G”) are doing if anything, but we cannot double and triple our ad budgets every other month.

    Google is introducing Cost Per Action. I thought it might offer us some benefit since we could set it up to pay only when we actually made a sale. Trouble with that is we sell some items for $1.00 and some for over $10,000. A fixed CPA bid would be fine if all our sales were for the same amount. What Google needs to offer is a CPA bid process based on a % of the sale amount. Anyone should be able to deal with that, although Google would surely be concerned about “sale amount fraud”.

  29. I have a small online business and spend 10% of my gross receipts on pay per click advertising- 75% google, 25% yahoo. Yahoo is essentially worthless, I just figure that whatever little money I make off them is gravy. Google is profitable, but at least 30% of my clicks come from sites that have never resulted in a sale. They allow you to opt out of receiving clicks from certain websites, but every month I receive 300 to 400 worthless clicks from the websites I have put on the excluded sites list. I emailed them about the problem and received a psyco-babble reply that in no way addressed the issue, but pretty much assured me that my worthless clicks were just a cost of doing business with google. The only problem is that google is the only way for me to get my message out. I just have to accept the 30% screwing because there is nowhere else to go.

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