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Internet Bullies: The Ugly Truth About Online Forums And How Business Owners Can Stop The Verbal Abuse
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Message Boards and Cyber Bulling
Cyber bulling on some message boards are really bad! Let me give you and example of the worst online boards. The First example. "boards.msn.com" no moderaters. If you decide to go there. I would use caution when posting. The people on that board are very childesh and its good example of cyber bulling. Plus, those people hardly ever stay on topic! Most of it is personal crap! Another I had come across about two years ago. Is called. "forums.commericalsihate.com" supposed to be where people can complain about stupid tv commericals. Personally I think this is one of the worst ran forums I had ever been on. The moderater on that forum is joke. I had to complain to him about somebody attacking me on there. That moderater told me to stay away. So I did! Plus, they do have a flame room in there to. So this is another I would recommened caution while visiting this site. Its being ran by some has been actor! Would love to see that site taken offline!!! Another message board I had visitied is called. "Newsvine". The moderater "Tyler" is pretty strict! Anybody posting raiscts or hatefull comments will get themselfs banned. Then you have your tech boards. People who need help with computers. So many helpfull boards I can't list them all. Most of your computer tech forums are very well moderatered.
What a sad world we live in!
After reading this blog and the stupid comments posted on here. Just can not belive how mean and evil people really are! Cyber bulling has become way out of hand these days. You can not post anything online. With out some bully attacking you! After my comment is posted. I am sure some bully will come on here and attack me. By making stupid comment! Then you will always get those online English teachers on here. Who tell you. Your spelling and grammar suck and need to go back to school. You even get that here on this blog! That to is another form of bulling. Most people do not care about spelling and grammar on message boards or blogs! Most people don't think before they click on the send button. As for cyber bullies they don't care who they hurt! Yes its a sad and hafefull angry world we live in! When does it ever in? Some people will say some really hatefull things to you online. I am sure that cyber bully who sits behind his or her keyboard and would not say things like that to you in your face. It makes you feal sorry for those people who are so angry and bitter inside.
Wassup
wassup with this? friggen link directed me to this forum and then I try to make sense from nonsense get to read nonsense from another forum people trying to come to terms with bullying. Why they all acted like this? Maybe that's the question. Human nature yeah but lord oh mighty after reading the posts here I came to the conclusion the Anita Montalvo chick has some filthy mouth full of insane insults that can only suck on the photo of that dude the Apodaca freak posted at his crazy site. I wish I didn't go there geshhh I just googled her again and it's nor pretty. Freak. Wussup? Did anybody win?
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Hi
Hi
Anita Montalvo and Richard Lucero were the Bullies
As a former member of AW, I saw the whole thing from the start . I left that website a couple of months after they closed down the forums because of all the fighting. I'm not saying this website is the only one where members fight, no, it is a common risk in the Internet world. This battle did not start because of the so called "Racial Icon" one particular member posted, as Montalvo and Lucero try to make one think. No. This battle started when one ex-member (a woman from australia) snapped at Ms Anita Montalvo with a post saying "You are rude!" because Montalvo posted something on one of her threads in CAPS. Well from there it all went downhill. Montalvo got really insulted and shot back and the insults got worse and louder coming from her. Other members tried to calm Montalvo and the Australian but the damage had started. Meanwhile the "Racial Icon" was posted on another board that it was a "Member Roast", you know, a Roast, where you are supposed to bash another member and the members participate in full knowledge and consent that the Roast was in the spirit of fun. Nobody thought twice that it was meant as a hurtful racial remark besides the nature of the thread it was posted at. The persons involved did not get offended because they knew the context.
Somehow, Anita Montalvo and her partner Richard Lucero (Florence Apodaca) thought they had something there, to call attention to themselves. They went ahead and started to wrestle with several members and the insults coming from both of them got rather louder, and meaner, making fun of one member's Polish descent and other graphic insults. The members responded in force and requested the website administrators to remove and ban the members Montalvo and Lucero. The administrators closed the forums to sort things out. The website banned them for Life, but they returned under other aliases, a while later. They continued their charade of insults directed at several members. They maliciously copied and pasted material from the Private forums and posted them at a Public website, to make fun and hurt the members. They didn't have to do that. They went ahead mixing the words, as if the members were really saying those things. I left the website disgusted. I belong to this other art website now and I've never seen such extent of damage as Anita Nina Montalvo and Richard Lucero have done. I got curious of what had happened to them after life in AW because I recently saw some "demeaning art" posted by others in the website I'm in, making fun of Lucero as a sort of payment I'm guessing. They removed it and I got curious. I goggled Anita Montalvo and this link of "Internet Bullies" came up for her. It fits I must say unfortunately. It's a sad world. I hope all the people involved made peace.
Get your fact straight!
It amazes me how some people see life...usually one sided..but there is usually truth in the middle of both sides.
There are no apologies for the CAPS used on AW..get over it. As for Racial unrest, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT- "MISSY".
A discussion was taking place in the "General Discussion Area",and all was well..until one of the members posted an icon that was racists. An icon of a black woman,which resembled the woman on a syrup bottle, to make fun of another person...THAT wasn't funny! Roast my sweet behind! The problem with that was who posted it..a member whose face was plastered in front of a "Stars and Bars" flag...DUHHHHHHH!!! What part of that didn't you get? I mean you have to be a freakin' idiot not to see how wrong that was...then again maybe Lauren H. from N.Y. you are!
Or was that funny because some yahoo and his simple minded groupies, that you belonged to, couldn't see the hate,ignorance and blatant disrespect, that was shown to many others, that didn't agree with your mindset?
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, Lauren H. from N.Y...The matter is that Artwanted is a private site, they have strict rules,but, they do play favorites. They not only play favorites,in the rules you cannot speak about, Politics,Religion,or Gay's...only discuss what the staff feels, will not encourage any serious thinking or debating.
I'm not blasting Artwanted,maybe just the way they do business.I have to admit, there are wonderful Artists and artwork there. The odd thing was, why have an area for "General Discussion" where it is said you can talk about anything..(ALMOST), then get harassed if you go off topic. Some of you were suppose to be adults,but what was seen was a confrontation of childish ranting and ravings,mostly by those who felt intimidated..the "Rat Pack" as they were seen by others.
As far as who started the WAR in AW...it was some little weasel with a Narcissistic attitude, who constantly made fun of or picked on other artists.If you differed her/ their views...you were the next in line to get showered with hostilities and verbal abuse, and or "Shunned" by that little brain damaged few.
What was done to the members that bullied others was an exchange of the same vile mentality given...if you can't handle the heat..get out of the kitchen. That useless group of low life's that use to abuse and bully people couldn't handle the "TRUTH" . It was ridiculous,how far some would go, and if they were pushed in a corner they cried "Foul"...Foul is their stench...and when they had to smell their own label of stench...they coward. I left on my own accord...if AW decided to BAN me or others for life, which I find so juvenile ,I still laugh, than so be it...it's a stupid art site, you know internet...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT ..Lauren...and while your at it,get your head examined take your pills ,get a life and call someone who really ..really gives a shit!
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Libel & Harrassment from Florence Apocada and friends
In reply to this post, I would like to say that it is very misrepresented of the truth and facts.
In fact, it is Apocada and friends who are attacking, stalking, and harrassing members of AW.
I am personally taking legal action against Apocada for this.
Do you not think it is strange that Apocada is banned from AW for their actions?
Surely, if what Apocada is saying about us is true, we would be the one's who are banned?
I have copies of everything written about myself and other members of AW on this and two other websites.
May I suggest Apocada's post here be removed, as it is libellous, slanderous, contains no truth or facts, and I am holding every website resposible if they chose to leave this material up.
Regards
Natalie Mason
Entertainment
The thing about bullies is that they NEVER shut up. They'll never admit they are the bullies, but they'll post hard and long to convince everyone that they aren't bullies, but victims.
You will always see them showing 'proof' of another's bullying behavior in the form of saved posts and emails, but you'll never see their posts that started the flame war, because it doesn't serve their purpose in regards to their claims of being the victims.
They will play the game until their victims lose interest and ignore them, or they face legal consequences. Some will never stop playing the game, because they are sad little losers with no lives beyond their keyboard and moniter.
It appears what happened here was a group of people who took exception to a few other people's behavior, and stood up for themselves, and are continuing to do so. It's hardly their fault they chose to make a stand instead of rolling over and letting themselves be kicked.
The person who originally brought this matter to this page, from what I've read, is the bully in this case. Best wishes to those who stand against him/her.
Your Entertainment
You just proved that you are a Bully. You are the one who is upset because this person Apodaca Publicly reposted all the proof and you and your bullies can't handle the truth! Justice will prevail as it is right now!You have been found out!Exposed for the deviants and pathetic weirdos you are!We will have our eyes on you now that it has been made public.
Naming the REAL Bullies
There are only three bullies here -
1. FLORENCE APOCADA
2. ANITA MONTALVO (aka NINA) who is also on this site as "noneofyourbusiness" and probably other aliases
3. RICHARD LUCERO (who is aka Florence Apocada....confused? you should be)
AW (ArtWanted) banned all three of these members for their repeated attacks and bad (even vicious) behaviour. Nina has been banned twice now.
AW did not ban any one of the people who these people are attacking.
Does that not tell you something? Seriously, and logically, think about that.
AW Staff are intelligent, they are certainly not stupid. If it were the other people Florence, Nina, etc., are saying are the bullies, don't you think they would be banned instead?
There is no reasoning with people like this though, and that's why they have received life long bans from AW.
Do you see any one else here calling names and attacking, apart from the three named above?
No, you don't.
Look at the whole picture, and THEN make your mind up as to who are the TRUE bullies here.
Anita Montalvo
"There are only three bullies here -
1. FLORENCE APOCADA
2. ANITA MONTALVO (aka NINA) who is also on this site as "noneofyourbusiness" and probably other aliases
3. RICHARD LUCERO (who is aka Florence Apocada....confused? you should be)
AW (ArtWanted) banned all three of these members for their repeated attacks and bad (even vicious) behaviour. Nina has been banned twice now."
Well I see more clearly now. Thank you for pointing that out. I searched for Anita Montalvo and Nina Montalvo and there's not much on the Internet. The same goes for Richard Lucero and Florence Apodaca.
I found an Anita Montalvo-Baitinger I didn't think it was the same person but I followed some links that took me to a similar site where this bully Apodaca has other pages slamming more people. I can see that Anita Montalvo or Nina Montalvo or whatever is also Anita Montalvo-Baitinger on those other sites, very confusing but you can tell by the same type of art that it's the same person. Why would this person be associated with a bully is beyond me.
I can see they're upset at being banned from that site and it all makes sense now thank you for clearing that up.
Are you crazy?
Milana?? is this your'e real name? This is me-Anita Montalvo, and there is alot about me you don't know.#1, I haven't posted in Apodaca's thread,#2-I have a page in -ninaandrich.com...promoting Art...and- #3- I am NOT a paying member on Artwanted.com or am I EVER going to be again. I was NEVER banned, and to get your story straight, I am a paying member, and Rep. for an Art Firm here in, Colorado.
Before I'm done here, I will say this, I will never be a paying member of ARTWANTED.COM...the people in that site , at least the ones that think they run that site, are RACISTS, IGNORANT AND PATHETIC!The most of them are Bullies. I will not name names but you know who you are! If Apodaca wants to have a site on hunting down bullies, she is in her right to do so. I have nothing to do with anyone of you crazy people on that site, hell I haven't posted nothing since, Alex and I were told to take a breather till, July. I am totally disgusted with the manners of each and every one of you! Totally disapointed, because you all have a talent, but I see you'd rather do this than be creative. I only came here because I got an email about my name being used in this forum.
I won't go off on you or any of the others who have attacked me, I can only feel sorry for you all. I have a good life, full, and I am a Professional Artist, not someone who wish they were or can't sell a damn thing. I have always said, I walk the walk and carry a Big brush, what's your'e excuse?
None of you cannot ruin my credibility, or my name. I could have a law suit against someone for trying to defame me , as I am a person of importance and the law is on my side. I never threatend or pursued anyone outside or in any other site, but it sure is funny how you all stalk me and look for me, well here I am. Come to Denver, if you have anything to say to me, say it to my face, cowards, all a bunch of Ranting Racist Loonitics! I hope you do come, Just remeber, you come to harm me I have the law on my side, go ahead check out what the law is in , Colorado, for anyone that trespasses onto one"s property to cause harm....come on.." Make My Day " .
What a bunch of pathetic hateful bullies you all are, but I'm not scared, I'll just keep ignoring you all, you don't do anything of importance , your'e meaningless, and worthless. I on the other hand, have important things to do and offer in life. My family has been in this country way before yours came over on a boat or a ship from another planet.
Now go do something with your talent, AND SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY!!Are you Crazy???!! Sheeeeeesh!ohhhh by the way, I am not afraid to use my name, I am not hiding and using aliases like you all are! You guys just waste valuable time, but I won't let you waste mine, so I'm done having my say, post what you want, since you don't do anything but breathe,try doing something with your time instead of wasting it!
MY NAME
You posted
"Milana?? is this your'e real name? This is me-Anita Montalvo, and there is alot about me you don't know.#1, I haven't posted in Apodaca's thread,#2-I have a page in -ninaandrich.com...promoting Art...and- #3- I am NOT a paying member on Artwanted.com or am I EVER going to be again. I was NEVER banned, and to get your story straight, I am a paying member, and Rep. for an Art Firm here in, Colorado."
Yes that's my name, Anita.
You sound confused. #1, You just posted on Apodaca's thread...#2, If you are promoting Art then why support Apodaca's porn site and bully in those sites yourself? It is clear that your very explicit words are there for all to see...and #3-I was sent an e-mail I requested and it says the contrary. You were banned from Artwanted. Twice it says with official signatures from that site. Would you like me to send it to you?
RACISTS!!
YOU ARE SURELY THE IDIOT AND RACISTS, I PERCEIVED YOU TO BE! I was never banned, I don't care what signatures you have!! You are probably the RAT sending out fake emails as a ARTWANTED.COM STAFF member.
You are soooooo full of shit even your words reek !! How pathetic you are, do you think I give a rat's ass about your thoughts?? Bwahahahahah!!! You know nothing of me..NADA!! Furthermore, if there is PORN on any site it's in Artwanted.com! Which was copied and pasted into APODACA'S page , for all to see how NASTY you bunch of HEATHENS are...and you are just that, BULLIES, RACISTS, TRASH!!!
I want nothing to do with a bunch of ugly pathetics rats! VICTORY IS OURS!!! Cry all you want, whine, file law suits, call the PRESIDENT!!!OMGDDD you guys are soo sick!! Bwahahahah! What you all need to do , is be sent to IRAQ!!! FRONTLINE and CENTER!! Be about something, instead of USELESS, DEMEANING WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH!
There stick that up your you know what , hope you gag on your own filth!I'm done with you nasty wenches!!!
GOT ART!!!??? DIDN'T THINK SO!!
LOSERS!!EVERYONE OF YOU!!!! very pathetic!!
ANITA MONTALVO'S HATRED
YOU ATRIBUTE YOUR OWN HATRED TO THEM AND THEN CRITICIZE THESE PEOPLE FOR IT!
YOU ARE NOT ONLY A DRAMA QUEEN AND A GHETTO BULLY BUT YOU ARE ALSO BLIND! THAT'S HOW YOU COME ACROSS TO AN OUTSIDER!
PERVERSE AND TWISTED.
TWISTED WORDS
YADDDI YADDI YADDIII YADDIII...IGNORE..BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!
SEE THAT'S HOW MUCH YOUR WORTH IS TO YOURSELF AND OTHERS...SOOOO SAD TOO BADDD SUCKS TO BE YOU!!!
wowrds of a twisted retard
here we go again another atempt to twist things around and try to make the other person look like they are crazed.
You called every name in the book haven't you low life bag lady? well that's ok GOT ART, Your the only one I see here who talks like a sailor's whore found in a dark port . Go wash your mouth out with Clorox, I HOPE the COPS come here and see you for what you are. Infact, I'll tell them myself and give them the address as well.
You claim you are so educated??? Edgeumacated is more like it, miss getto queen potty mouth. Have a goooood happpppy life, this is the last not from me, like I said, just wanted to have fun... all done... pridictable loon. bye bye.
Twist and Shout!!
Omgggd...ahahahha! okay enough of all your crazed behaivior.Twisting is something you seem high on , Spelling, is another venture you need desperately to work on...hmmmm maybe more education,too.
Sailor ..ohhh ya..I can sail...bet you never sailed on the Gulf,or the Pacific , try the Atlantic...brrrr cold!!Ever manned a boat on your own????...AAArrrrr matey...now go blow off the bow or the starboard...sheeeshhhh...talk about getting a life!you guys are seriously TWISTED SISTAHS!!
The Last Word
Anita Montalvo aka the Ghetto Trash Mouth, knock yourself off with the Last Word if you so desperately wish in this childish knock-down argument it's nothing but a word and a blow. Bye bye already!
Shame
All of you. The person responsible for all this is the person writing this article and we have read this all of it the past couple of days. Shame on all of you. What kind of role models do the adults supposedly play? The minors should also be ashamed in participating.The parents of these minors should be held accountable. What a confusing mess to decypher. Who is wrong? None of you! Who is right? None of you. We hope you all heal and move forward.The last word. I see that no one posted again after the last post except for myself and that is understandable as my husband and I were seemingly appauled. Appauled by what was posted on this otherand then another site and again on this site.We think you people have left the planet.
Mortified
I have read this (these) posts and can only wonder...do any of you have any kind of life off of the computer? do any of you work? because it is obvious you all have way too much time on your hands...
the one who posts winkey pics, I would say you have a fetish, the guy who took the pic I think you need to get with the guy who put your pic on his home page...I mean Jesus People we are talking about the internet we are talking about people who you will never meet, they say stuff all you have to do is click the "X" ..the art site? heres a hint if it bothers you to go there STOP going there!! no ones forcing you!!! Sounds to me like we have a nice chubby basket full of drama queens who like to cry about every thing ! good God you are people, behind the fake names and the imaginary life you portray on the web you all eat sleep and shit just like me, I think this discussion is a supreme waste of time and it has gone from useful information to a shooting gallery of shit slinging and rampant insults and quite frankly you should all be ashamed of yourselves!!! Except Gaelic woman..she seems to be a voice of reason!
You all disgust me deeply
Cruel
'Ms. Disgusted' with all respect, if you patiently read all these posts you have a lot of time on your hands! LOL I saw this article by accident several days ago when I was browsing for some downloads and I just have to say that I'm disgusted with Mr Apodaca the person that began this whole charade.
I saw the game from the beginning when he posted that link! If only the rest of the posters would have taken account of the motivation in the initial post. I was hoping the author of this article would have deleted that guy's post as those first people requested! Apodaca's game has cruel written all over!! and vengance. Real names were mentioned here people with lives! what a low life! and Anita Montalvo didn't need to act so immature. She has cruel written all over too. She's supposed to be some sort of professional? lol That is really bad PR!! I can't even feel compassion for that!!
GOOFS
Quite frankly, I find you all to be nothing but a bunch of GOOFS! Every post here seems stupid. However, I do agree with Jane Longhorn, but I dought very much that is her real name at all. lol
Guess I'm a GOOF too, I'm posting!! LOL Hell, couldn't help myself everyone here has mad it so easy to sling mud. Good Lord get lives for God's sake, Computers do come with on AND off bottons! lol
And you Minors?? Stop joining in with adults who act stupider than you do... Oh and PLEASE learn to SPELL for crying out loud! Jimmy Crickets! in my day you would NEVER write just to show how smart your not.
Spelling
You should learn what you preach 'Gary Rodgers'!! sheshh learn to spell 'dought' is doubt and bottons? you mean buttocks? bottoms? probably that's your head! here, spell buttons! not the smartest bulb in your class were you? ROFL!
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