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74 commentsTuesday, July 21, 2009

Apple Tells Microsoft To Stop Running Laptop Hunter Ads

Microsoft has been contacted by Apple's lawyers

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Own both, Use both

I own and use both Macs and PC's. I was a PC user first, and then introduced to a Mac at work. After about 4 years of using a Mac at work, I bought one for home too. I think there is a place for both of them, but I think the Mac is far superior to the average PC. I say average, because if I custom build a PC and tweak it to death I could come up with a pretty kick ass PC, but it would probably cost more than a high end iMac.

I am sick of building my own computers, and installing loads of software. I am purely a web designer / programmer now, and my Mac just works better than my PC. The Mac isn't for everyone though, it is more expensive. It's kind of like buying a car, some people just don't want a more expensive car or don't need it, but at the end of the day you can't deny that a sports car is nicer than a run of the mill car, but they will both get you from point A to point B.

Some of the comments on this forum are completely crazy though.

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Yes ,your article is very good

Big boys play.

You want to buy quality buy APPLE. Need to get things done buy APPLE.

I had a taste of both worlds APPLE and normal PC.

For now, I am sticking with apple.

No ad is going to change my mind.

I am not saying that PCs are bad, but personally prefer APPLE.

quality?

LOL thats funny. I could spend a lot of money for a quality machine that would not run the games and apps I need it to not to mention that fact that any upgrades are tons more expensive then the PC alternative.
I know a number of people having problems with their macs.
Not a chance that I would go there. If all you do is run one app all the time and mac happens to have it then there you go, enjoy! You cant beat a PC for flexibility.

I don't get it...

Um... PC runs an Intel chip... Mac runs an Intel Chip...

So where's the difference really?

Oh... the OS... well. Mac runs Mac... PC runs Windows, Linux... As I see it, the PC offers more options. Most of the complaints vs a PC are really aimed at Microsoft. Which really is something completely different.

Personally I've always preferred and AMD chip - had a bad experience with Intel machines (yes that's plural) in the past. Do most people need to make full use of their processor - NO! Most use their machines for documents, email and the internet. Do you need a specific machine for that? Nope, I'd go with the cheapest. Because you're not going to really need more than that. If you do, I'd suggest you build a custom machine to meet your needs - ah, but a PC offers more flexibility there.

"Oh... the OS... well. Mac

"Oh... the OS... well. Mac runs Mac... PC runs Windows, Linux... As I see it, the PC offers more options. Most of the complaints vs a PC are really aimed at Microsoft. Which really is something completely different."

Umm, a Mac runs OS X, Linux, and Windows garbage.

I'd really like to know what these additional options you speak of actually are.

For the record, since 2006

For the record, since 2006 mac has run the Mac OS, the Windows OS, and Linux all natively through bootcamp, their able to do this because, as you pointed out, they have Intel chips too.

Nothing surprised...

Nothing surprised... We all know that Microsoft want to be the overlord in the IT industry in the world...

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It's working but..

it's not fair to discredit your competition in any way. First of all they never can reply without looking either stupid, angry, or some other negative thing.
Second Microsoft has a track record of making the wrong decisions on just about everything from usabilty to pricing. Apple has been interested in giving the consumer a great experience - and quality costs money. So people that want quality and usabilty could be in a new commercial made by Apple.
Showing what you've got and letting customers decide for themselves is always the best way, and unfortunately that is almost never the case in any sales proces.

I think it's funny...

how Mac people trash PC users, and PC users trash Mac users; It's a joke, really. I am an IT Administrator with a BS in Computer Science, and my preference is a PC. I don't think anyone that likes Macs are stupid, or people that like PCs are geniuses, it's just a preference. Use what you like, and stop worrying about everyone else's tastes.

All a matter of preference

This Mac vs PC thing is all a matter of personal preference, there is no one "best" computer. I have used a Mac for years at work, but owned my Dell PC even longer. The touchpad on the Dell works great, so I hadn't used a mouse at home for many years. Meanwhile, the touchpad on my Mac at work is almost useless, so I have to use a mouse which is annoying if I'm not sitting at my desk. For someone who uses a mouse all the time, that wouldn't be an issue, but for me it is, so I do prefer the PC. Both the PC and the Mac are slow at times and both have had technical issues, software crashing, hardware wearing out, etc. from time to time. It's more a matter of looking at exactly what you personally need and what you personally are going to use it for. There is no one best solution for everyone. Marketing is marketing, the two companies will continue to battle it out in their commercials, and that's fine. But no need to belittle people for their personal preference.

Wish I had a Mac

I get sick of my pc too....

Mac vs PC?

I feel that if people are stupid enough to buy a PC over a Mac they're getting just what the y deserve. I use my PC laptop only as a comparison tool for viewing the websites I create. Other than that my 4 yr old, #2000 Dell laptop is pretty much a piece of crap.

I remember using a PC years ago and how often the thing crashed and how much info I would lose. Not to mention the numerous times it got bogged down and froze up.

The hunter ads are false, they say that the macs are all about aesthetics. Gee, is it the lack of aesthetics that cause PCs to have so many problems?

Sure, I'll defend a Mac any day but in the end, I'm very happy knowing I have the advantage over PC users :-)

No offence, but Mac is for

No offence, but Mac is for little less intelligent people. You hardly will see any real techies using a Mac. Most of the Mac users are stupid graphic designers and school kids. That is why Mac's market share down hill even after decades. Again no offence intended.

Don't let your bias kill a good machine!

The Ignorance that some PC users are showing. Now let me preface this by saying that I am a PC user, but I was also an Amiga user and have been watching the MAC market for a while. If you are any type of techie, then you should know that the MAC is a far superior machine to the PC. The Amiga was even better than both of them before the PC's misleading ads, and their threat against software publishers drove them away from writing apps for the Amiga thus killing a damned good machine. Though I must admit, the Amiga ads were ATROCIOUS!!!
So here we are again. The stupid misleading ads are about to kill another good machine. Don't you techies get it...Any machine that is great at graphics and can satisfy the gamers is a PRETTY FAST AND VERSATILE MACHINE!!!!
The Amiga was using multiprocessors very early in the game. That is why they didn't need as fast a processor as the PC machines. The operating sytem fit on an 800MB floppy. Not taking up several gigs on a hard drive. Yet is was so powerful that most of you older techies were using Amigas in your favorite game arcades. Weren't those games fast? The MAC soon followed with their multiprocessors. The PC's were, technically, a distant 3rd. It was their brilliant marketing and arm twisting of the popular apps publishers that got them into business offices. Only now are you hearing about dual cores and quad cores.
Now if you Prefer PC's then stick with them, but don't let your bias kill the best machine on the market.

what makes a graphic

what makes a graphic designer stupid? That's the most ridiculous I have ever heard. Grow up.

Keep the MAC

Nothing against the MAC, but the box really is overpriced. I do not need a MAC box to run the Apple OS and save hundreds. Like most Apple products, including the iPhone and iTouch, Apple could reduce their prices considerably and still make a good profit.

Love the ads, Microsoft, keep them coming.

Value of Macs

Hi,
I am a PC user and a Mac user and have passed my exams as a MCSE, having previously been a CAD/IT manager for several Architectural practices over the years I have had a need to support both platforms and associated server software.

Fact is, by the time you have specified a PC and a MAC to run certain software such as ArchiCAD and Cinema4D you will be paying similar prices for the hardware, slightly more for the MAC once you have purchased MS office etc.

One office I joined I had to pick up the pieces from their rather expensive server installed by an 'Expert' which did consume quite a lot of my time, restarting and never quite reached the expectations of the company. But it worked...

The next office I joined didn't have a server (2004) and after quite a bit of research on prices of not just the hardware, but also the server software, client access licenses and mail server they chose an Apple solution with Kerio Mail server. This configuration NEVER crashed. The only restarts being a result of software updates and power downs for moving equipment. This same server hardware is still running now even after I left the company.

During this time the majority of the computers in the office were Windows PC's, I gradually switched all the no name PC's to a well established proprietary brand looking for reliable hardware that I didn't have to be fixing. Even before the introduction of the MAC server the PC's struggled to carry out multiple tasks freezing regularly. Often the biggest issue was caused when a user tried to jump straight into their work before the PC has completely finished starting up as it gave the impression it was ready to go. My advice to users was to wait until they see the desk top, then go make a cup of coffee while the PC finishes loading up.

Later down the line the office needed a powerful PC being able to make the most of Cinema4D. After quite a bit of research and cost comparisons they chose a MAC 8 core Intel. Not only did this eat through the renderings without freezing there was still enough capacity in it to be running other graphic intensive software and VMWARE with windows. When not doing intensive rendering the MAC simply joined the ranks of work station for day to day tasks.

In the case of my needs RAM, processor power, stability, low support requirements were key for me to be spending less time on IT and more on CAD. For high end machines there is little difference in price. However if all you want is something simple to write a letter and browse the internet then go for something cheap.

Pump it UP!

Funny stuff, well you know the ads must be working if your competitor is screaming for you to take them down. If I was Windows I'd pump up the volume on it and start running tons of these ads!

Keep it up

Please keep using windows. I'm in IT and don't want to have to triple my client base to stay in business. Oops, I mean multiply it by 10...

Most people just don't know any better.

Most people just don't know, I didn't either. Even after I got my first Mac at first I thought I'd made a mistake. After I learned a few things, like it just worked and didn't send me messages to tell me it was trying to do the task, or that I had a fatal error, or some other nonsense. I get work done on a Mac rather than 'working on' the computer.

The biggest difference is the OS and the way the software which comes on it all works together. I have bought very little software; don't need it. For the average user, non geek or gamer, a Mac is just what they need to easily handle their pictures, music, movies, email, surf...

Much of the hardware (guts) are about the same today; if you pay enough for the PC. Still if you look at "Consumer Reports" Mac wins in almost everything. People who have a Mac love them, the other people just don't know any better.

I've been using Prehistoric, Pretty Crummy, Piece of Crap Computers at work for many years; there is simply no comparison. IMHO

You get what you pay for.

You get what you pay for. Period.

I'll gladly shell out a little more cash for a Mac.

I actually think those PC commercials are funny- when I see one I haven't seen before, I tell my boyfriend "wait just wait, they're gonna trash Mac somehow"... and then the snide comment from the 'totally candid' shopper comes. It's illustrative of how one can have a conversation about an issue that is a non-issue for those in the know. Cost is a moot point for superior machinery.

– Mac user, former PC person

Missed the train

I think mac users have this false sense of perfection. Fair enough Macs have reduced instruction sets on the CPU, and in the old days Macs could make files larger then 4gb and ran considerably faster, but those days are gone. NTFS and EXfat has sorted out file size, and CPU with multi-cores and crazy FSB speeds has more then leveled the playing field. I have not seen one real Statistic in this arguement except for the price. Prove to me that MACs can work quicker then a PC (keeping in mind most intensive graphic redering in PC's is happening via PCI-e NVIDIA graphic cores using CUDA which has killed previous PC rendering and I would love to what MAC has planned to combat this). Then theres that absolute dumb ass arguement that MACs dont need Anti-virus. Well neither does a PC if you have a solid firewall and dont download anything lol..But if you do a FACT search you will see that viruses do exist for MAC and companies do sell products, but I failed to see that mentioned (probally the $80 per year that would of deflated the MAC arguement considerably)..What our MAC buddies have forgotten to mention is the truths about MACs, but have done a reasonable job of describing worst case scenarios PC's. For 98% of the planet dont need an expensive, Propriety driven platform, in which one part cannot suit all, and alternatives are not an option and this is why PCs will always dominate a constantly outdated market. And my closing comment with Quad cores, crazy FSB, and better GPU's that are capable of redering 10X quicker then most CPU's, most software companies are only now just starting make FULL use of the PC and are writing rograms to suit.....I see this as the begiining of the end for MAC..lol..lol..lol..Why pay 3 times as much for MAC (and its AV software which is soon to be free for PC users via MS Morro).

PC & Mac are not congruent

Joe Brown has the best comment/point of all the ones I've read hear. Both Mac and PC have their pros and cons.

One thing that pro Mac users have to admit is that there is more selection with the PC. For the consumer, this is very good.

What it comes down to is that you have to compare a specific PC laptop model with the comparative Mac model. Comparing Mac and PC just on the platform seems flawed.

It's pointless to debate non quantitative points. Who can really evaluate the learning curves of each. I bet Microsoft and Mack would differ on this.

Antivirus software and

Antivirus software and anti-spyware software is free.

The two best programs are still AVAST and Spybot S&D which have always been and always will be free for home users.

Tech support is mostly outsourced nowadays.

Macintosh is for snobs, it's the equivalent of people who buy a Benz, they're great cars, but you could buy two of basically anything else for the price of a Benz and the snooty hood ornament.

What?

"Macintosh is for snobs.."? Are you serious? Also comparing it to people who buy a Benz really shows you have no idea of what you're talking about. People are willing to pay more for quality. That's the bottom line.

Ever driven a Benz before? I doubt you'd say you'll never buy one after driving one. ;)

But still people buy Benz,

But still people buy Benz, and you can't stop it :-) . Mac is surely not for PC users, it's for different class of users/buyers.

The holy wars begin.

The holy wars begin.

Stupid

Are you really as stupid as
you seem? Apple's lawyers contacted them because the ads claim a MacBook cost more than 1000, and it doesn't anymore. That is it.

So now they are running their like $800 computer notebook trash. So the ads can still be run, and no one cares.

I have used macs and pcs for over 12 years. The macs stay useful years after the pcs are in the trash. So now I buy Apple hardware no matter what OS I plan to install.

If want to believe Apple hardware is not worth it. You are just remaining ignorant.

You call people stupid but

You call people stupid but fail to realize there are little difference in apple and windows hardware. But your ignorance will allow you to pay ALOT more far identical features. I am an engineer and usually when I see people in my line of work they use boot camp and are running windows 90% of the time if not more. So they paid nearly double fo an apple logo on the box an an os that won't run ANY standard engineering sofware. I like apple as competetion is what makes capitalism work but until they get off the over priced arrogance train I support Microsoft. PS I typed this on an iPhone 3GS just to prove a point that I don't hate apple just their arrogance.

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