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Chicken Little Strikes Again
It's hard to believe such a small minded twit can get such a great job and generate so much press by saying something that stupid. Google is not killing newspapers. The internet is. It's called a "changing business environment". Deal with it. Adapt or die you silly old fart. Blaming Google for the demise of print news is like blaming the rooster because the sun's coming up.
Newspapers
I will tell you the honest to god reason I stopped buying the daily newspaper and having it delivered is because the delivery persons we have are so lazy...they drive by in their car and throw the paper...on your driveway, sidewalk, bushes whatever.
They just simply stopped putting it in our mailbox. When I was young I delivered papers...you carried a bag or pulled a wagon and you had to deliver them to every house. I got to know all the customers and always recieved nice tips. Google has done nothing to the newspapers....they are their own worst enemy.
Google
The newspaper industry has been transferring their investments into the web for well over a decade. This wall street vampire sounds like an ambulance chaser trying to steal more from the middle class in the name of the newspaper industry... Booshht!
the death of newspapers?
I am very sorry to say that I believe the 'blood-sucking' imagery may be far too accurate, in this instance.
I never read newspapers that much, too much to process and it seemed a waste of money...now that I "blog", I like to keep up on national & world events, and I do it online. I am more aware, and I feel good about that. But there is something to be said for actuallly holding a newspaper in your hand, reading it your way, in your time, with a big mug of coffee nearby.
"Common Sense" was a pamphlet, that's paper!, and passed out to the colonists. The Declaration of Independence of Independence was penned on parchment/paper. Our Constitution & the Bill of Rights...need I go on? Hear ye! Hear ye! The possibly impending death of the newspaper industry is just plain wrong...
Reporting will lose its heart.
reading
It breaks my heart to see newspapers going out of business. I still read them, I also read from news sites. I prefer something I can hold in my hand and pick up (physically) later where I left off. On the web, if you miss it today, the link will be gone tomorrow (so to speak). I don't have the time to sit in front of a computer long enough to get all my information there.
I also read books. Lots and lots of books. It is hard to take a computer to bed to read.
"Blues"-paper
I stopped reading the newspaper many years ago because I can get the most negative interpretation of the world events right here in my neighborhood. There is no need to pay for the most recent bad news or how some idiot 'star' has again, gotten away with some atrociuos crime against normal folks.
No, Google had nothing to do with my decision to stop reading any newspaper. I think of it as survival. I get just enough to stay informed watching regular Sunday morning 'blues' on local tv to uderstand we are not in the best place in our history. I spend my time helping at animal rescue and local senior in care facilities.
You can keep your 'blues'-papers AND Goolge.
Happy Sunday
negativity in the News
I just remembered the other reason that I only occasionally read the papers!
Great approach, Ken M., combatting the negativity by 'positivity' - helping those who need it.
I need the newspaper
It serves to clean up after the cats. But I actually do read it as well. I don't use google or any engine for other news. I get it from TV and from TV news sites.
The news itself is univeral, there's a dozen ways to get it. What really counts is the editorial and commentary pieces from various knowledgeable sources.
There's a difference between events and happenings, and the analysis of who where and why in those events.
If all I had to read was news I'd eventually not bother with it. I've never considered any of the aggregate sites like google, yahoo or MSN to be in any way relevant to current events other than letting me search on topics of interest and research.
I subscribe to one newspaper and one magazine. Everyone has their own level of information intake and preferred method of doing it. Newspapers bring me headlines and advertising. My science magazine keeps me ahead of the newspaper stories in science and technology.
The Net Vs Traditional Papers
My folks pay $1.30 to have the paper delivered to their front door. I pay nothing and get to read more then one newspaper right here on the net. How do you compare, easy, you can't. I have learnt more from searching the net in the past 5 years then I ever did at school in 12 years.
Mainstream Newspapes Own Wors Enemy
As an executive that lives outside the United States, I have found reading even digital news from the "mainstream" papers to be so absurdly twisted that you have to wonder if they follow a Protocols of Zion strategy and simply print lies.
From their clearly coordinated lies regarding 9-11, to their known lies regarding "Al Zarqawi" during the Iraq War, and then the lies stretching into so many global events, the mainstream media has proven that the consolidation of media into so few hands, and worse, to one centered in Israel, has been a huge disservice to the American people.
Let the newspapers and their editors be tried for war crimes along with those politicians who have internally destroyed so much for so little gain. In the meantime, who cares if a group of collective lying idiots goes down in flames.
The market would reward them if they were doing a good job. Clearly the newspaper business is nothing more than Soviet era crap. Media execs know this, equally.
The Internet arrived just in time or we would all be in an intellectual dark ages.
"Mainstream Newspapes Own Wors Enemy"" ??
Dennis,
A corner of your aluminum foil hat has come loose again. Please check it or we'll have to send the guys in white around with the padded suit with the arms on the back, again.
Get out much? Didn't think so.
until they're verbatim...
Until the online versions are identical to the printed versions, I will have need for both.
no newspapers
Haven't picked one up in several years now. You can even get the same coupons online if you know where to look. I get the breaking news updates on email, so I don't miss anything, and actually probably know about it much sooner.
Can't blame it all on Google, but the internet has killed the written newspaper industry.
Long Live The Paper Boy
Just a few ramblings;
How can the internet ever replace the feel of a newspaper and the smell of the ink?
When the internet first took off everyone spruked about how it would create a paperless office. Wrong, due to the instability and lack of security of the internet, software and hardware, as well as the massive increase of information available, it actually increased the amount of paper used in an office.
Lets look at some of the places where people will read their newspapers.
On a train, bus, station etc. going to or from work - I know you can pull the laptop out and go online and read the news but, you increase your chances of getting mugged for the laptop rather than a newspaper. Wait, did I hear you say what about the mobile phone? Cost is a big thing as well as crime. People are being mugged regularly for their mobile phones as well but, the big issue is what the mobile companies will charge you to go online to look at the news, compared to the price of a paper.
In bed - The missus likes to read the SMH every saturday morning in bed as this is her relaxing time. Work days she will keep up to date on the computer with the news. It is very uncomfortable sitting in bed with a laptop surfing the news.
Personally, I like to watch the news on TV (Austar/FoxTV) as I spend all day staring at a computer and this allows me to zone out from work.
On saying this I buy the local paper for local news once a month as most of this news cannot be found on the internet. You also feel like you are helping your local community by this purchase.
Yes, the internet has its benefits as delivering up to date news can be important to some people.
By supporting newspapers we support our children as there are not many other jobs children can do when they want to earn a few dollars.
Long Live The Paper Boy!!!
The main news is so tainted
The main news is so tainted its close to ridiculousness to take in. I prefer to search the web and collate the presented information and work out if its true on not. As far as truth goes there is little of it that i trust, this world is built on capitalism and there is no place for truth in a profit driven world.
Newspapers
I quit reading newspapers and watch very little TV news because the news is so slanted by reporters with an obvious agenda. If reporters would quit giving their point of views and just report the facts it would be a lot better for newspapers and TV news outlets. Too much sensationalism in the news today. The dirtier the laundry the better. Stories are also rode to death. Take Micheal Jackson for instance, I thought he was a talented but an eccentric person. There has been little else on the airwaves except his passing. What about the other news of the world. I'm sure something else is going on that will have a more profound effect on civilization than that. Don't get me started on news analyst. That is nothing more than an educated guess. Just report the facts and move on to other things. I like to get my news from many different sources, like the internet and blogs and make up my own mind. With the internet I can pick and choose what interests me.
Lemme fix this up for you..
Newspapers
I quit reading newspapers and watch very little TV news because the news is so slanted by reporters with an obvious agenda. If reporters would quit giving their point of views and just report the facts it would be a lot better for newspapers and TV news outlets.
What'cha mean is:
I quit reading newspapers and watch very little TV news because the news doesn't agree with the news as reported by Russ... If reporters would quit giving their point of views and just report the facts as my little mind perceives them.
Mebbe when whosiewhatis is done with his aluminum hat you could borrow it for a while.
Information I Want
Newspapers give me a view of the news that they want me to have. Search engines allow me to find the news and information I want and need.
If the news/information I want comes from a news source, so be it. If it comes from a blog or website, so be it.
Doesn't matter
You said: "Newspapers give me a view of the news that they want me to have. Search engines allow me to find the news and information I want and need.
If the news/information I want comes from a news source, so be it. If it comes from a blog or website, so be it."
And the good part is - it also must be accurate if it comes from a blog or website since we know those are never biased or innacurate.
RIGHT ON!!!
RIGHT ON!!!
The Internet For Truth ...
So there are still some who claim that the Internet is where to go for the 'truth' eh? Lol!
And we're screaming foul about the news we've been reading in print? I can't quite imagine the thinking there other than that the Internet gives such a wide enough range of opinions that surely everyone can find someone to 'agree' with, therefore finally discerning the 'truth.'
One can surf all day on the 'net and not land on a single site that isn't agenda-driven. It's what the Internet is all about.
Human nature never changes, but can be quite imaginative in camouflaging the true self.
No Objectivity In Print - For Decades
When I was younger, I counted a paper route among my teenage stable of income sources. As an adult, the Lazy Sunday paper and leisurely coffee was a ritual for years. Even after being part of the digitial revolution beginning in the '80s. I lost interest in newspapers for many reasons, not the least of which is the fact that they're owned, lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels by the elite who control the flow of news. Consequently, there is no objectivity to be found in print anywhere on paper these days. The newspaper employees have killed themselves by being mindless sheeple doing and reporting whatever they're told regardless of moral or social ramification. I am a nasty Nationalist who still loves his country. When the Local Gazette Star/Reporter/Journal gleefully prints attacks against ordinary citizens while protecting the truly filthy, they do not deserve to survive. Google, or more fittingly, the Internet, is the fittest. When I can search and find truth I will return to that medium. Newspapers have been nothing more than ad revenue machines full of lies for decades. As Paul, in a post before me, I am an ardent admirer of Ben Franklin. Were he and his ilk still walking the Earth today, I have to believe it would be a much better place, and that the useful life of the printing press would have been laid to rest scores of years ago.
Is Goog that great at news?
On my iPhone I have Reuters, ITN, The Telegraph and Straits Times - all good in different ways.
On my RSS I have over 60 feeds - all deliver news for their area of focus very quickly.
I very rarely use Google News - it's not that good.
Just like GM, many newspapers didn't bother listening to what their customers wanted - because they knew better - until their business died. I'd argue that their short-sightedness killed it; not Goog.
Internet v Hard Print Copy
I've not read a hard copy newspaper in about 5 years, however those of us who live on-line tend to forget that there are still thousands of people who are not connected to the Internet at all who still need their papers, not only for news, but entertainment, coupons, cartoons and the like. A monthly subscription to a newspaper, in some cases, is still less than paying internet access fees.
Book publishing is also going through difficult times with Amazon's Kindle reader, and although brick and mortar bookstores are not what they used to be, and even libraries are struggling, I still believe it will be many years before we're even close to a "paperless" society. Just ask anyone who works in a law office!
Newspapers Need to Transform
We've not taken a daily or weekly paper for years. A lot of news we didn't want [unfiltered to our need, and depressing otherwise]. That was before Google or MSN or whatever.
Newspapers used to be fast, because mail took months then weeks and no one had radio or TV.
Well, they're not so fast and you have to go get it or wait for it to be delivered, tomorrow. With old news.
Newspapers should be the novels of news now. In depth materials that get and give all the multiple layers of detail that online headlines can't. I glance the online headlines and often don't read the details, and when I do, it's often cloned from something I've already read.
Details, newspapers, in depth. In fact, change your name, make a new face and reality of what you are. People buy the special editions of all Obama, or all Michael Jackson, or all the next "wedding of the century" be somewhere between the online headlines with little substance and the glitz photos and no substance of LIFE, US, People, TMZ.
Neale Sourna
www.PIE-Percept.com
Newspapers are dead, and should be!
Let's face it. Newspapers are, at best, 18th Century technology. They are relics of an earlier time. Nobody drives a buggy or horse to work (except in Amish country, God love 'em), so why should anyone read a newspaper, except online? Besides, the newspapers are heavily biased. If I want to be LIED to, I'll read a newspaper, but the Internet allows me to search dozens, or even hundreds, of sources, so I can decide what to believe!
Ben Franklin, whom I revere, was a newspaperman, but Ben also was perhaps the greatest genius of the 18th Century. Ben would NOT be a newspaperman today---he would be an Internet Gazzillionaire! Why? Because he GOT IT!!! He also would be driving a souped up convertible instead of a carriage, and I'll bet his place would have the best audio system in town. Get with it, people!
I couldn't have said it
I couldn't have said it better!
Newspapers? What for?
Is there still any right of existence for a printed newspaper? A medium whose news are already obsolete when it is purchased? Business and modern people need up to date information. Not information that ist nearly a day old when it is published. What good about information to be read in a newspaper, that everybody knows already from modern online media?
Newspaper companies should not mourn an point fingers but start being creative and up to date. And by that way helping to save resources, that are wasted for a useless printmedium.
Short attention span
Internet searching has led me to a shorter attention span for details and for long, complex analyses of major issues. I find this unfortunate, but I believe that I have become addicted to "headline hunting". The "Google syndrome" leads me to a good overview of what is going on, but I have less in-depth knowledge than if I were still concentrating on serious journalistic research.
google stopped me to read news paper
Really in this fast moving world we dont have much time to read the news papers. This is much easier to get the news in feeds.
But Journalism would never be ruined. News feeds need the journalists. :D
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