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I think iphone is much
I think iphone is much better than the Gphone in almost every posible way and feature. I think the only phone thats going to compete iphone will be Nokia Aeon ( http://www.domesticutilities.com/pmg.htm ) . I am waiting for this phone i have heared that its coming out soon
Gphone SMOKES IPhone
I love my G1 and am really proud to pick technology based on practical reasons instead of marketing hype. The hysteria around the iPhone is unwarranted, it's about the same as the G1. Some things are worse, some things are better. Point is, however, the G1 is an open platform and the race just started. Watch the iPhone become Apples undoing in about 2-3 years (since they're now focusing on that instead of the Mac!) while PC's and Android DOMINATE the world of internet based mobile computing.
iPhone vs gPhone : Confused
Well I have read the articles & the comments, but still confused which phone to buy. I am currently using BlackBerry Perl and willing to buy a new one coming month...
The gphone
I am not sure about TMobile, but the mytouch 3G is way better than the iphone, I bought the canadian version of it and installed the Hero interface (you can find tutorials on how to do that on the web). It's an awesome device.
No one has commented on how it compares to PRE
The focus has been Blackberry. How do you think the Iphone stacks up against the Palm Pre ....besides being stuck with Sprint until the end of the year
Had an HTC 8950 TILT Now I'm on G3S
LOL on some of the misinformed comments.
I just went to the G3S after they got rid of DMA in Ituens and added Cut and paste as well as several other critical things that were added with last years G3 model.
I really liked my Tilt 8925 and my 8525 and my 8125 except they are a bit on the flimsy side. I have had two Tilts die and be replaced and I have two other HTC older phones sitting around that don't work and died an early death. I used to do Nokia and they were bullet proof but at the time didnt have a good smart phone. (I know they do now so dont go there)
I like the NEW G3S iphone better than my 8925 Tilt. I do slightly miss the hard keyboard but not much. Main thing I miss is the arrow keys. No arrow keys on iPhone and so you have to try to touch your big finger inbetween small letters, other than that the keyboard works fine.
The phone is much better than the Tilt iPhone easer to dial and use and see for my old eyes.
The music player iPod is much better than Tilt Windows Media Player
The screen video is much better than tilt.
The touch secreen is better for finger usage on iPhone but Tilt lets you use a stylus which is nice.
On WinMo if you open the phone it will ALWAYS go landscape. iPhone application has to be written to support landscape or nothing happens when you rotate.
No compairason with browsers. iPhone has them whipped. I installed Bolt and Opera Mini on WinMo they were better than IE mobile but no where as cool as iPhone.
iPhone has Google apps but they arent as good as Office Mobile.
Iphone GPS maps are great as are the WinMobile (google maps and Bing maps etc.
Battery on new phone is decent I listened to Slacker for over two hours last night streaming from G3 and battery went down aprox 15%. I had push mail going all day used GPS and then Slacker music for over 2 hours and still had about 45% battery left.
The WinMobile phones let you do things without Apple Arrogance like make any MP3 a ring tone. In iPhone you can do it but you havve to play tricks on iTunes. iTunes gives you some crap about only songs purchased from iTunes are available for ringtones. You have to do an easy work around to get them in, it's not hard but a matter of principal. Apple wants $.99 to get out of bed in AM...
I don't really care for apple AAC codec I preffer Mp3 WMA or any open source format to Apple Propritery stuff.
WinMo has a remote desktop app (remote Desktop) built in and I am an IT administrator and have used this to service servers in the past. It is not fun looking at a server screen via a 2x3 inch portal but I have restarted my server in Texas while on vacation in florida. Terminal Services is not in an iPhone.
There are some things I like better about my WinMobile phones but I wouldn't go back right now, (maybe in the future never say never)
Hope this helps
I'm dated
I know I'm dating myself by saying this, but I will anyway...
I remember when heated debates like this were about MAC vs PC.
"By tradeshowTerry (WPN
"By tradeshowTerry (WPN reader) - Wed, 06/24/2009 - 00:18
I'm dated
I know I'm dating myself by saying this, but I will anyway...
I remember when heated debates like this were about MAC vs PC."
what sucks is that now apple is the big evil corporation and android is the little grass roots open source company that everyone loves.
Yes you are dating yourself
But, now that you can get a powerful notebook for under $400, .....
Nokia N97
Both phones are closed worlds, too much coupled to proprietary environments. Surely good phones, but I like openess, as in Nokia N97.
umm no... the android os is
umm no...
the android os is completely open source. you are free to delete all the t-mobile crap and install a "pure" android os.
It Doesn't Matter - For now!
The fact is, most of you stated your case and you are all right. The iPhone is a great machine, but so is the Treo, Blackberry and many other PC based phones. I for instance, have an (once new) Cingular 8525. I can do video, text, skype, copy-paste and all the other things the iPhone can do. The difference is that I got my phone 3 years ago, and I could do then, what is becoming available on most phones now. Yes my phone is a little bulkier than the iPhone. No biggie for me. My battery, still 3 years later, lasts 1 1/2 days. The real difference for me is that I can do all that without a data plan. HAHAHAHA. You heard me right, I configured my 8525 (the best kept secret of the phone industry) to harvest wi-fi from place to place, even as I drive. I only pay for my calls. Except that when connected to a wi-fi, I use Skype to call my friends in Brazil, UK and Germany. ALL FOR FREE. Unless I can't get them connected to their 8525 or PC. In which case, I use Skype out and call their home or work phone numbers for pennies...
So, here is what is going to happen. I am going to go and buy a new iphone 3GS - hold on... I do believe that the gPhone is going to take over the cell phone industry. IT WILL HAPPEN. But it will take them about 5 years to get there. Mostly because of their poor marketing strategy and red-tape. So, It Doesn't Matter what you buy now, in 5 years, you will want/need a gPhone. Your now super cool, iPhone is going to be old and buggy. So, you all need to relax. The cell phone war have not started yet. But when it does, the gPhone Open Source machine(S) will win. I Guarantee it.
I disagree. I'm not really
I disagree. I'm not really an apple fan, but it doesn't seem you take into consideration that iPhone will keep improving the iphone over the next 5 years.
Open source hasn't really done very well in the computer marke, what makes you think it's going to do better in the mobile one?
I think the only area where the iPhone will suffer is if they don't end their exclusive contract with ATT. They're losing out on much of the market in that respect.
100 percent perfect? You TRYING to make me LAUGH? I'm laughing.
In response to:
By computer consultant (WPN reader) - Sun, 06/21/2009 - 21:47
If only iphone had keyboard
If only iphone had keyboard it would have been 100% perfect. Gphone is way too bulky compared to iphone.
Um, you're a "computer consultant"? I really feel sorry for your clients. You advise BUSINESSES to buy iPhones for their employees, do you?
After all, if it just had a QWERTY keyboard, it would be "100 PERCENT PERFECT," as you said.
I can't stop LAUGHING. My dachshund is STARING at me -- but even HE thinks it's UPROARIOUS too.
It is totally not appropriate to call someone an "idiot" in a forum like this, no matter how STAGGERINGLY STUPID of a post they make, so I will definitely refrain from doing that, being a polite person and all.
BUT...
You're certainly not a "computer consultant." Oh, I'm sure you call yourself that, and I'm sure there are people with less knowledge than you who might be fooled into thinking you actually know ANYTHING about computers, much less phones.
But I can tell you this. If someone came to meet me at one of my business interests, and purported to be a "computer consultant" and tried to sell me their services, and then their iPhone rang and gave away the fact that they know NOTHING about business whatsoever, hmmm, well, I think I'd send the guy packing. If only it were legal to still give people like a swift boot to the posterior on their way out the door.
Do you actually READ, um, ANYTHING?
100 percent perfect? HA. Perfectly USELESS.
Just scroll down to my last post, and read the dozen things that an iPhone CAN'T do, virtually ALL of which I use EVERY SINGLE DAY.
This is the post:
By the Dude (WPN reader) - Sun, 06/21/2009 - 16:32
CHALLENGE to iPhone USERS -- Pick up your phone and DO THIS!
Now go ahead, pick up your iPhone and try to do ANY of those things. You CAN'T.
How can you call the iPhone just a keyboard short of 100 percent perfect when it can't do ANYTHING ESSENTIAL?
The iPhone does make a great paperweight, although it's doubtful the new one will because it's a bit lighter.
I'm sorry, but now I need to return to a little place I like to call PLANET EARTH.
"Just scroll down to my last
"Just scroll down to my last post, and read the dozen things that an iPhone CAN'T do, virtually ALL of which I use EVERY SINGLE DAY."
Dude you're dumber than words LOL - scroll down to your post and THEN read the replies to your misleading statements.
"I'm sorry, but now I need to return to a little place I like to call PLANET EARTH."
This cracked me up because I was going to say, "What planet are you from?" because you obviously don't read current earth news or reviews or else you wouldn't have said what you did
App disappointment
I am not really in a position to comment on either as I dont even own an iphone, but I have seen one in use.
The on thing that is missing on an iphone for me, is the ability to "minimise" an app and still have it running. The main app I would use is Skype, and I do find it disppointing that my contacts are unable to call if the damn thing is not running in the background.
Maybe this is inpractical - I dont know - just seems with internet bundled in with all the packages, this is something I would want before I bothered with it - otherwise might as well stick with a basic phone and a PDA.
Vote for your favourite on Stuffpit.com
Why not cast your vote for the iPhone or gPhone (aka HTC Magic).
If only iphone had keyboard
If only iphone had keyboard it would have been 100% perfect. Gphone is way too bulky compared to iphone.
The iphone will always come
The iphone will always come out on top as its the original.
Original after the palm and
Original after the palm and pocket pc smart phones, in the same way as the ipod was original after the iriver and archos. Apple haven't had an original idea for the past 30 years.
Apple haven't had an original idea for the past 30 years.
You're kidding right? Their marketing ideas are brilliant and they keep finding ways into duping people in to thinking they're better! I like Apple just fine but it's the PC that put computing on the map and the reason is that the PC always sacrificed towards open architecture. Yes Google is taking over the world and the G1 is just one more brilliant way they will.
Said what?
First of all, neither you nor the original poster seems capable of penning a grammatically correct sentence. Second, Apple has had many original ideas although not all have been successful: The Apple computers, the Lisa, the Newton, the iPods, iPhones, the MacBooks and the MB Pros and the best GUI ever--one that has consistently been ripped of by MicroCrap.
The iphone vs the googles
The iphone vs the googles android system...its like watching a heavy weight championship boxer going against a light weight rookie. The iphone is a freaking ipod that makes calls. I've owned an iphone and it was ok to say the most, bought the G1 and was blown away.
This new iphone is simply faster...oh cool. I would rather have a much better phone than one that's just faster..the g1 is that better phone. Its like a desktop computer in your hands. Iphone freaks, well you're all simply freaks. So what if there's not much info about googles new phone, the lack of won't hurt the impact that the phone will make. The Trash can should be full of iphones. My iphone was turned into a baseball and everyone heard the "crack" of the bat as it exploaded. Apple make a real phone and not just a fancy ipod.
P.s. the g1 plays music too and lots of it and surely the new phone will as well...
Who are you kidding? That
Who are you kidding? That thing you show side-by-side with the iPhone has no chance. I mean look at it for a start. The only device which poses a threat to the iPhone is the Palm Pre. Not only is it attractive, but it is more powerful. However, there are only 30 apps, and there won't be any more until the (US) Summer when they release the SDK. If the Pre fails then, and only then will I develop for Android. I don't think it has a chance. So if you're looking for a PDA phone I'd go: iPhone, Pre and Windows Mobile. With the above caveat on the Pre.
CHALLENGE to iPhone USERS -- Pick up your phone and DO THIS!
You've all forgotten the ELEPHANT in the room: Blackberry.
My T-Mobile Blackberry CURVE (old technology) does every single thing that an iPhone can do and a quite a bit more.
An iPhone is a iPod that can make phone calls, and not a hell of a lot more. Why do I say this?
iPhone users, pick up your existing iPhone RIGHT NOW, and do the following:
1. Change the battery for a fresh, full one, maybe even a bigger one with longer life. What? You can't? It's sealed inside? Wow, that sucks. So you gotta find a PC (or a Mac if you're a multi-millionaire) and download all the memory contents, then wipe them to make more room? Wow. Trippy. I guess that gives you time to watch Youtube videos about how cool Apple stuff is and drool over the next iPhone, and all the features it lacks.
2. Take a picture in the dark. Hey, you've got a nice camera there. Just take a nice flash picture in a dark nightclub. You know, of you and your friends. What? NO FLASH? Sheesh. At least it won't drain your non-changeable battery! Don't worry, your smarter friends have Blackberries or Android phones and can take the picture.
3. Receive that picture by MMS. Yeah, your friend with the Blackberry or Android phone, or even the guy with the $29 prepaid phone that has a flash camera on it is trying to send you the picture by MMS. WHAT? NO MMS? Dude! I'm trying to remember my last phone that didn't have MMS. Hmmm. Probably at least 10 years ago.
4. Make a video. This will console you. Maybe a FEW of you can actually do this. 99 percent of you can't. The few who can paid a lot more to do it. Blackberry made it a standard part of it's OS for over a year now. Free and simple OS upgrade. Oh well, maybe you don't need to make a video. I mean, what's the fun in capturing the great times with your friends anyway? It's over-rated.
5. Hey, those of you who can make a video, or take a lot of pictures, pull out that memory card and put it in a computer. Or give it to a friend. Or put in a bigger one, say 32 GB. So you can just keep on a-filming. WHAT? No memory expansion slot? You're joking, right! It's right there under the, um, battery that you can't get to either. Damn. That's cold.
6. Tell the phone to "call mom" and let it auto-dial. She will console you on your purchase. Huh? No native voice dialing? Is there an "APP FOR THAT"? If there is, I'm sure it's not free. No voice dialing on a touchscreen phone for the first 2 generations of iPhone. Sheesh. Damn, you got stuck.
7. Change carriers to Verizon. Yeah, just unlock your phone (it's right on Youtube how to do it, or you can pay somebody $300 to do it.) Huh? There isn't a CDMA version available? Isn't Verizon on CDMA? And Alltel. And Sprint. And Telus, and Bell, and Cellular South. Combine those carriers and it's the nation's largest and most complete network. Apple must not love you folks who use those carriers.
8. Getting worked up? Take it easy. Put on your nice, Bluetooth dual-channel (A2DP) headphones and relax. HUH? No A2DP. You mean you gotta PLUG IN YOUR HEADPHONES with a CORD??? I thought that cordless is the whole IDEA of a cell phone.
9. Decide which incoming e-mails to read or ignore by the sound the phone makes. You know, make it play "twisted sister" when you get an e-mail to your private address, and just have it buzz or ignore e-mails to you "throwaway" or overused e-mail addresses. WHAT? You can't do that either? You mean you hafta either get the same notification for ALL your e-mail address, or just switch off notifications altogether? This is getting SAD. How much did you pay for this thing? Hey, isn't there an "APP FOR THAT" for only an extra $49? Who knows?
10. Group your contacts. Yeah, you know, you've got 2,000 business contacts, and 200 personal. Be nice to group them separately and view only one. Makes scrolling quicker. Can't do that either, can ya?
11. OK, A REALLY SIMPLE ONE -- JUST COPY-AND-PASTE SOMETHING. Come on, you can do it. You can't? You mean, when you call 800-411-GOOG and use their free directory assistance, and you have them send you a text with the phone number, you can't just copy and paste the number and contact name, and address, into your phone/address book?
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING! You honestly CANNOT COPY and PASTE? (at least not in the first 2 generations) And this is supposed to be a USEFUL DEVICE? GOOD GRIEF, I hope there's an "APP FOR THAT." Holy Moseles.
12. Save money with UMA. Yes, that's right. You know, if you're in range of a WiFi router (like MOST of the time you're at work or at home), your iPhone can just log on to the router, and make your calls over the 'net, and you DON'T GET CHARGED THE MINUTES. My Blackberry does this beautifully and T-Mobile makes it a selling point. I talk like CRAZY (probably 3,000 minutes) on just a 300-minute plan, and there's no limit to UMA use. NONE. Does AT&T let you do that. Don't think so. Does ANY iPhone have UMA? NOPE. Oh, maybe there's an "APP FOR THAT" from Skype or Vonage or somebody which lets you sort of do it by WiFi, and PAY THEM for the APP and/or the PLAN and/or the MINUTES, but at very, very low reliability levels. UMA is rock-solid. Dadburn that iPhone.
13. Sell it on eBay. This one you can definitely do. iPhones sell like hotcakes on eBay. Luckily, you can keep your AT&T plan because they feature the 3G Blackberry Bold with a real QWERTY keypad that you can use with ONE HAND and you don't hafta turn the phone sideways to do it, and mis-type half of your letters on that finicky touch-screen.
Hey, don't get mad at ME -- that's just shooting the messenger! I didn't make the iPhone an underpowered, over-priced, closed-source, under-featured, glorified iPod. It wasn't me!
I didn't mangle the iPhone. It was mangled when I got here.
And keep in mind, I'm a guy who lists his FIRST REAL LOVE as an APPLE II computer on his social networking profiles.
1. I have have been using
1. I have have been using cell phones for about 12 years now and in that time i have never felt the slightest compulsion replace the battery. I have a charger by my bed, i have one in my car, i have a solar charger that i can take anywhere. I will never need to change the batery.
2. the only phone i ever owned that had a flash was my sidekick. wow what a pointless feature. A camera on a phone is a frivolous option in any event. I have a camera. my phone camera is just for snap-shots on the fly, a flash does not enhance this purpose.
3. the iPhone can send and receive mms. but really, why would i want to send an expensive mms, when an email is free and just as fast and easy.
4. again i have a very nice camera for that. The few times i had video capable phones it was amusing but pointless. I even got one of those G3 (the British mobile provider) videoconferencing phones, completely pointless.
5. why would i want a lame memory card, which i never have the right reader for when i can just dial straight into my iphone's ip address through my wifi network without ever taking the thing out of my pocket.
6. another time waster. yep i really want to spend 3hrs setting this crap up. the only time i would ever use voice dialing is if i were in the car, and my car does that just fine.
7. yah but that is true of most high end proprietary phones.
8. the iphone has been capable of streeming audio for a while now.
9. this is true, but why would you have your junk mail account forwarding to your phone anyway? (lol i have were not gonna take it as my email notification.)
10. yes you can do this, always could. just touch the little button marked groups in the top left.
11. ok true real copy and paste was not available until the v3 software update, but since then i have never used this function. The ability to dial numbers from text messages or web pages has been available since version 1.
12. ok you got me there.
13. a touch screen is just as accurate as a button keyboard. i regularly write lengthly documents spreadsheets and even powerpoint presentations in the quickoffice suite of apps.
Now before you accuse me of being an iPhone fanatic, i'm trading my iPhone for an htc hero (not that sprint knock off, a real one imported from the uk). Once Google releases Google wave, email, im, and all social networking sites will be obsolete and only the android os will have native support.
You seem to think that downloading apps to expand functionality is a bad thing. Expansion is the main selling point in most good smartphones.
There are no phones that do everything you listed. Really, i went round the carrier online stores, entered all those features into the search. Nada.
Last: i would rather not have a phone at all than use a blackberry. It sucks not having separate keyboards for typing and for dialing. the web browser sucks hard.
P.S. the irony that att is the only company that will not be getting a gohone is not lost on me.
This was a great post
I don't spend much time on blogs but this was brilliant. Are you on Twitter. Would like to follow your funny comments
I would love to know why you
I would love to know why you are so immature.
First, my iPhone can stop my child from annoying me. I can just start up monkeyball, and she can tap away. Can your blackberry do that?
My iPhone has UMA, and yes, there is a FREE APP FOR THAT, in which calling is FREE.
My iPhone can monitor a patient's heartbeat, blood glucose, and many other vital signs. Can your blackberry do that? Maby there is an app? Oh yeah, you don't have an organized app catalogue that my 6 year old can figure out!
Can your blackberry sync with a computer, without crashing it? And don't give me any fluff. I have a 3 ghz 64 bit Windows Vista Ultimate PC with 6 GB of ram, and the Blackberry Manager would always crash.
So you see, your blackberry may be good for you, but for the rest of the world, the iPhone is the way to go.
Challenge to Iphone Users - BLACKBERRY LOST!
Oh my poor ill advised friend, if only you knew what you were talking about.
So to set the record straight, let me go head to head with your comments, critiques.
1) No changable battery on the Iphone! RIGHT! and thank god. Do you know how many batteries I've had to replace on all of my other phone...AND THE COST$$$. My Iphone battery after 2 years has never lost a charge and runs a full cycle. There is no reason to replace the battery like in you Blackberry.
2) I've seen the pictures that most phones take in the dark even using a flash. They suck, so why would would want to take one anyway. Use a decent $99 camera. It'll take better pictures. My 3.0 Mega pixel takes great pictures and I can change the point of focus just by clicking the screen.
3) In version 3.0, I can send & receive MMS. Get with the program. We're talking about todays technology, not yesterday's newspapers.
4) Make a Video. I can not only shoot video on my 3Gs but can edit it as well. The software came with the camera. Can your phone do that?!
5) I've got 32MB on board. Do they make a removable card any bigger? and who would want one? I've got 2,000 songs and 5,000 photos loaded on my phone.
6) I've got voice dailing, voice name recognition, multi phonenumber selection and voice activation to play any song, can your phone do that?
7) I dumped Sprint, I dumped Verizon, I have no problems with AT&T, Why would I want to switch carriers?
8) I not only have bluetooth, I have STEREO Bluetooth!
9) I have 12 different e-mail accounts on my phone and can have many, many more. Does your blackberry have that?
10) Group my contacts? Are you serious. I've grouped my contacts since version 1.0 of the iPhone. I have 20 categories in my outlook (2003, 2007) and the iphone seperates them perfectly. Even Microsoft active sync can't do that!
11) I have copy, cut & paste! It's all right there in Version 3.0, a FREE software upgrade.
12) I can connect to any wi-fi or bluetooth device. I have a fully active company and GPS FOR FREE! Does you're phone have that? Over 80 million Iphones have been sold. There are over 25,000 Apps.
How many blackberrys have been sold? How many apps for your phone OR ANY OTHER PHONE exist? My phone has a level, compass, GPS, music player, internet, has a FULL KEYBOARD (US & International) in either the vertical or horizontal position plus 25,000 other useful applications. No more sudo internet web browser for me!
My iPhone is not just a phone or an iPod. It it a highly sophisticated computer system with the worlds best browser on the phone. I can run SKYPE and talk for free worldwide. Can you phone do that? Face it, there is NO device on the market today that is as fast, reliable, versatile as the iPhone. Instead of knocking it, you really should give it a second closer look. You may be suprised at what you find.
Over 80 million people can't be wrong. AND THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A SECOND. Since most people own a iPhone, and they use AT&T and calling between AT&T cell phone is FREE..... I wonder what that does the the overall rate plan.. I'll spend more time on the phone and spend less money than you will regardless of the carrier.
Unless of you course you only know 5 people. He He He
Owned
LOL - where have you been! Your rant is quite funny given the title of the article and the phone we're talking about here
1) I live at home and work from an office. Guess what, my battery has never run out between charges. So you can change your battery in and out, big deal. I had a Palm treo with a spare battery. Guess when I used the spare battery? Never.
2) I take pictures in the daytime - deal breaker it aint. But hey, if you make your living taking photos at night then I suppose you wouldn't want to be using a Blackberry??
3) MMS is available on the iPhone - get with the times.
4) Video is available on the iPhone and so is editing - can Blackberry's do that?
5) Why put in a memory card when I have 32 G of memory already. It's not like I could fill it up with photos or video between docking? Come on, let's get real. Currently I have over 700 pictures on my iPhone. Guess what? I didn't take them all at once. It's taken me more than a year and half to take them and I still (shock horror) have gigabytes of spare storage left over.
6) Tell the phone to call mom - funny that, I CAN
7) Who cares about Verizon? I'm in Australia and unlike Americans, I know that we're not the centre of the universe.
8) A2DP is now supported so you're looking sillier by the minute
9) The email statement made me laugh. You really are clutching at straws now :)
10) True I can't group them yet - but I can flip to them alphabetically without scrolling and anyway, I like the scrolling so close your mouth!
11) Dude, check out our copy and paste and weep - much better than yours :-p
12) If you can't afford to make calls on your phone then maybe you can't afford to own one? We don't have UMA in Australia and guess what - we don't care.
13) You said it - people pay money for second hand iPhones, they don't for second hand Blackberrys -I wonder why?
Hey don't get mad at me, I'm just pointing out the simple fact that you shot your mouth off way too quickly and now look very very foolish. Maybe it's time to trade your Blackberry in on a new iPhone - I won't tell :)
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