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268 commentsSaturday, June 13, 2009

Do You Respect DMOZ After 11 Years?

Are You Listed in the Open Directory Project Yet?

268 Comments

DMOZ still has Proxy Error

Dmoz still gives a lot of weight to Your site, but how the editors decide: I do not know.

I think they are still important. But they still have technical issues - I still get proxy errors when submitting a new site. They should work on that.

Dmoz may have been regarded

Dmoz may have been regarded as an authority site. But their service sucks. No reply what so ever. I dun even bother to look at Dmoz after awhile. I am happy to see that they got trample all over by other sites now. Respect and you will be respected.

I have never like Dmoz. I

I have never like Dmoz. I am kind of happy to see that it is loosing its shine. All my submissions have never receive a reply from these damn staff. Not even some courtesy to inform people on the submission result. They dont respect the public, and people will not respect them. Better to see they crash.

DMOZ will not last long

DMOZ grew to become a large and respected (in the past) directory due to the fact that it was accepting good submissions in the past. Now they don't. That's why their numbers are declining.

Ah, poor editors, overwhelmed by bad submissions... Well, that's their job and they took it voluntarily. It is evident that many submissions are being declined because of the cranky attitude or ulterior motives.

If we just will end up blaming spammers for downfall of DMOZ we will not help it. If DMOZ haven’t managed to automate or change/improve their editing process in 11 years and that is a LONG TIME on Internet, they simply did not mature.

And spammers? They ain’t gonna stop. So, if things will not change internally, bye bye DMOZ.

Happy Birthday?? DMOZ Died Long Time Ago!

Poor DMOZ. They've been over-run by non-ethical editors (not all of them, but most of them) who like many have said simply "block out their competitors" by either not allowing their competition to be listed, or by blocking editors that may list their competitors.

It's so bad, but nothing that's biased ever lasts long with Google. DMOZ has been dead for sometime, and it's declining traffic numbers are demonstrative of this. People stopped caring about a DMOZ listing.

The problem for DMOZ is that most of the editors thought they could just deny sites forever without the internet community at large eventually finding out about what was happening.

Well now, the cat's out of the bag. The results are showing (declining traffic volume), and people are getting Top 10 listings on Google frequently without being listed in DMOZ (in fact there is a 98% chance that if you do things properly on site, and get enough inbound links, you can get a Top 10 listing for your keyword).

So that means DMOZ is starting to slowly lose its reason for existence in the first place. People use directories to find information in a different way than with Search Engines. But as search engines become more modern it is slowly eating away at directory usage at all.

I have Google Search in my car's NAV system, even on my PS3 and My Wii. . .I've never had a directory search capability in any electronic device, and it's pretty obvious as to why. The DMOZ search generally doesn't work well anyway. I end up going to Google to search for what I need.

The reason why Google is so popular is because for the most part Google has remained neutral on the sites that they index, and the content of those sites. People know that they can rely on Google for a realistic result listing, that isn't biased (well aside from "safesearch" which is designed to filter listings some may find offensive) for the most part.

Can the DMOZ say the same thing?? Nope.

With biased editors, and editors who have "cronny" attitudes (only let my friends in, or let my friends become editors), and less than 1% of all sites that are submitted being listed, DMOZ is on its way to a slow, and quiet death. Websites are what keep the internet alive. Even Google would be dead without anything to index! DMOZ without listing sites, and having the same old stale sites in its directory will only suffer more.

Google only supports DMOZ for now, until they create their own super directory, which is in the works from what I understand. The same way Google decided to stop working with FireFox after their current contract expires, when they decided to go forward with Chrome (their current contract together expires soon).

Without Google, DMOZ will die for sure, as it's MAIN source of respect will disappear.

The only way AOL can breathe any life back into that beast, is to fire all the editors, and get some PAID editors from their own base of staff. That is how they will insure that listings are accurate, sites actually GET listed regardless of the editors personal opinion, and there will be no biased listings or listing rejections without explanation.

I have done over 300 clients websites (possibly more) since 2001, and I stopped submitting to the DMOZ altogether back in 2003 when I came across an article that suggested the editors were biased, and rejected competitor sites.

When I applied to be an editor (in a category that had nothing to do with SEO, or Website Design) for a category I was HIGHLY familiar with (Boy Scouts, something I VOLUNTEER FOR, and have NO INCOME from), and they declined me (even though the category had NO editors at the time), and didn't explain why, I knew then that something was wrong.

Since 2003, whenever clients ask me about submitting to the DMOZ, I tell them it's un-necessary. I explain that DMOZ gets less traffic each year, and that they can easily obtain a Top 10 listing on Google for their keywords on their own without a good amount of inbound links to their site.

I predict within the next 2-3 years, the DMOZ will die completely. If it doesn't, it will completely be "gutted" from the inside out, and transformed into something new, and more robust that fits the needs better of today's modern internet users.

When you lose your respect on the internet, you've already lost the battle.

The DMOZ turned 11, and no one showed up for the birthday party -- some people even through eggs. I think that's clear evidence that you've alienated the very community that created the possibility for you to become as popular as you were. Game over.

Unfortunately Dmoz is run by

Unfortunately Dmoz is run by "your competitors" who have been on the internet longer than you. Or just in the right place at the right time. They don't want to approve your sites because well, you are their competition so they tend to not list them. Some of you will be lucky enough to get your sites in so it's worth a try. But many see the problem as their sites don't get listed.

Dmoz does still have value even though their traffic has declined.

wholesale scooters on Dmoz

I request my site list on DMOZ for 3 monthes, but got no any response. my site is wholesale scooters and other general merchandise, my site is great design.Does wholesale scooters do not allow to list on DMOZ.

Not listed either...

I too have been trying to list with DMOZ. I have given up!
Somethings are just not worth stressing about. They practice bad business which is something I would rather not be associated with.

Alysehia

DMOZ

I have tried for several years to get 2 websites listed on DMOZ to no avail. They are of no hope to small businesses and maybe with the offhand approach they seem to take, they are now their comeuppance that the drastic drop in numbers of unique visitors show.
Am I naive to think that DMOZ were supposed to be helpful or maybe I am living in cloud cuckoo land.

DMOZ does not exist for

DMOZ does not exist for Webmasters, their sites or for businesses. It exists to provide a service to Internet users, the business' clients, if you will.

It's always easy to put down what you do not understand, or perhaps MIS-understand. I see a plethora of misunderstanding about DMOZ, its goals and why it exists. It's no wonder so many Webmasters and site owners are miffed at DMOZ. They just don't get it. They expect DMOZ to be what they demand of it instead of accepting it for what it
is.

DMOZ

DMOZ does not exist for Webmasters, their sites or for businesses. It exists to provide a service to Internet users, the business' clients, if you will.

It's always easy to put down what you do not understand, or perhaps MIS-understand. I see a plethora of misunderstanding about DMOZ, its goals and why it exists. It's no wonder so many Webmasters and site owners are miffed at DMOZ. They just don't get it. They expect DMOZ to be what they demand of it instead of accepting it for what it

Proxy Error The proxy server

Proxy Error

The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request POST /cgi-bin/add.cgi.

Reason: Error reading from remote server

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Ahaha , the crap is falling apart.

Sadly almost all web directories look like crap, but dmoz is the dumbest of them. That is the biggest garbage and I'd better list my sites in porn directories, than that, they sure have more traffic.
Is incredible that such an autdated "site"(!?!?) is still on today. It should be flushed away by some "internet garbage cleaners" cause garbage it is. It don't even works and is heavily biased, not reliable, outdated, colapsed, exploded and edited by wankers who dream at getting rich from being editors of crap. No more words, that is it, dmoz is garbage.

Maybe

Maybe some gaint company should go for accquiring 'DMOZ' to improve the situation a little bit.

On the other hand, I think they should have clear policy for approving/denying site submission based on 'Neutral' and 'Fair' view so which means that if an editor is running his/her own website under whatever niche, he/she should not deny the submitted site just for being a competitve.

No respect at all

I actually spoke to the guy that was running the section in DMOZ which we have been trying to get into for the past 6 years, he is our competition hence the reason all of his websites are listed there but won't let any of his big rivals be listed!!! Absolute waste of space and time ...

no love for DMOZ

I have to say that I agree with just about everyone here who has nothing good to say about DMOZ: terrible (non-existent) customer service, patchy/biased listings and hideously out-dated to boot. Why would Google have anything to do with them? The directory may once have been the holy grail in the early days before SEO, but surely it's just limping towards a long overdue death now?

Piece of SH#$

DMOZ is a piece of #$%^. I've tried to get my high quality business and website listed for over 6 years now!!!! Not one response, my site still has never been listed. How about one or many of you non-US resident hackers take care of them once and for all. They deserve a slow death, but for the sake of humanity kill DMOZ quick - with everything you got!

Dmoz non us-resident hackers

So why wouldn't you ask a US resident hacker to kill dmoz? Are you implying that it is not in a US residents morality to do this job? You have a lot to learn about your country.

DMOZ has lost its reputation

The way internet traffic has increased in 11 years, The Dmoz traffic should have been multiplied by a 3-digit number but Dmoz has gained quite a reputation of not accepting good sites and their editors begging money to include a site in "The FREE Directory".
This reputation of Dmoz has affected other directories in quite a negative way. Now webmasters don't submit their sites to directories and people don't visit directories anymore to look for something good.

DMOZ and its unfair practices

I think someone with connections should file a class action lawsuit against AOL for DMOZ's discriminative and unfair practices. Is there someone out there that is up to it?

Dmoz.org and its editors have violated their own guidelines regarding submission of websites and approval of new editors. I plan on filing a class action lawsuit against DMOZ.org for failing to list my websites in its directory. Many other website owners are also having the same issues with dmoz.org’s directory. There have been numerous attempts to get my websites listed in its directory over the years. No emails were sent in response to the websites being submitted. I believe that dmoz.org and its team of volunteer editors are discriminating against my website as well as many other website owners/operators who submit their websites to its directory. These bias behaviors by editors are in direct contradiction of Dmoz.org’s own guidelines which is listed on its website. AOL has little or no oversight on its directory. There are also other websites on dmoz.org that are listed quickly and have multiple listings in relevant categories. It is clear that its editor’s are bias when reviewing certain websites after they are submitted.

I also applied to become an editor and my application was denied based on false accusations by the reviewer which stated "your application was denied because your objectives are dissimilar to ours". My application does not give an indication regarding my objectives. I believe it’s just an excuse to deny my application and I feel I'm being discriminated against

Just bury it!

DMOZ is already dead! Just bury it and get it over with! I've tried many times even in the early 2000's to get my sites listed and to become an editor to no avail. Just let it die a natural death and say fair well DMOZ!

DMOZ

DMOZ is no more relavent.

DMOZ

It is a waste of time to try listing in DMOZ. I stopped trying to list in that. Goog by DMOZ.

Close DMOZ down!

I think DMOZ should be forced to close down, hundreds of submitted links in the directory don't work anymore, as someone else mentioned, it's more like a link farm and very "spammy" now. You couldn't use it as a directory because it is such a mess, who honestly would try and find something in there these days?

And what I find shocking is that Google values the directory and bases their own Google Directory on DMOZ >> http://directory.google.com/

Can Google honestly condone DMOZ's attitude and policy and say they are abiding by all of Google's guidelines?? I think not!

I think it's about time Google compiled their own directory and forced DMOZ out of the water, they have the resources, manpower and capital to do so...

DMOZ - @#!*&%!

I have submitted dozens of sites to a very targeted division of DMOZ and the sites I have submitted are all PR5+ with excellent traffic and in 5 years nothing.

I have applied to be an editor for this particular division because in 5 years nothing has been added.

I was declined. I had my wife apply - declined, my sister - declined. BTW my wife and sister are both writers with degrees in English.

I'm not sure who they are kidding when they say they are looking for more editors...personally I think it is just an old boys network and you only get in if they like you.

What upsets me is that Google gives DMOZ so much authority.

Agree

I 100% agree - I think DMOZ is no good unless they actually look at the sites submitted, which they don't because every category I've tried to submit to doesn't even have an editor. I complained and an editor on a forum got on my case and said to apply to be an editor to help fix these problems. So I did, and they rejected me.

D*cks in Hands

DMOZ editors spend all day fart as*ing around and can't even accept a request for a new editor never mind a new link. 6 years of developing websites and myself with each new website I make a point to trying to get it into DMOZ for my clients. I've run websites for the leading election parties in my country and still nothing. Not one acceptance 6 years running. "11 years and it still sucks." What a great way to put it! Took the words right out of my mouth.

Glad there traffic rankings are starting to suffer from poor performance.
Whenever I visualise a DMOZ editor it paints a picture of someone sitting around with their D*ck in there hand all day. Jacking off to a time when the directory actually meant something and they actually mattered.

I was delighted when AOL stocks crashed purely for the amount of time they had stolen from me over those years trying to get a listing.

Over rated

Dmoz was once the holy grail , i Remember every seo i knew would be telling their clients you need to get listed in dmoz. we no longer care now !! I gave up 3 years ago.

DMOZ

I agree. I've been trying to get listed for 5 years to no avail. I don't know who you have to be or who you have to know but this place doesn't list anyone that doesn't get 100,000 hits a day. Too bad for the little guy

DMOZ is crap

someone contacted me to offer quick listening of my website in dmoz, in exchange of links to his website from me. i refuzed, my aplication for listening in dmoz was denied and another of my website was deleted. so f.... dmoz.

blah blah

I have read this a few times with regard to Dmoz, what I have never seen is proof. Where is this email? post it, post it in a Dmoz forum, slap it up all over the web if its true. Until then, its just blah blah BllSh1t. BTW, I am no Dmoz fan, they are corrupt from my own experiences, but if I had proof, I'd post it!!

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