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67 commentsThursday, April 23, 2009

Where Social Media Fits Into the SEO Equation

SEO Benefits of Twitter, Facebook, Etc.

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Practicle experience

I have personally noted with more participation in the Social Media Sites my Ranking of www.harleytourism.com has jumped. I have also noted that in Search results, DIGG< Twitter, Face Book have high ranking

Local Businesses can benefit form social media too

This is a great article, thanks for writing it.
I have found clients don't like social media because they cannot track direct sales like an adwords campaign & such. Getting clients to utilize the social media is a challenge.

The real power of social media is communication but it is also in the quality of the conversation. Local businesses can especially use this effectively because it uses their strengths like: personal attention, listening, sharing local buzz, community interaction and other things that are inherently more personal in nature. Things big box business weens out.

This is the power of local business marketing - and it is also the driving force behind social media sharing. We have seen local biz have success with video, twitter and review sites because it is a natural extension of community. I hope we will see more local businesses using these conduits to connect online - because lord knows they can use the economic recovery!
great job guys!

Social Networking-SEO

I know that this article has been on for a while, but profiles at Social Networks really do work for you. Check your own stats, Google yourself. Good networks come up first. You don't have to be a known "BRAND" t gain traffic from this phenomena!

Great Article

Thanks for the article. Definitely helped me with some insights.

123 Matrimonials

Social Done Right

I hate to say it Chris, but these guys are so far behind what we are really doing in social media and these are the same people that told me for years that social media does not influence Google.

They were wrong then and they still have no idea what is really going on. Parasitic marketing? Are you kidding me? Howie Schwartz was talking about this in 2005.

If you want to know what is really going on in SEO and social media talk to Jeff Smith, Jennifer Horowitz, Mari Smith and Simon Ford, they do know what they are doing.

SMO

This article was good because it shows how you can use SM sites to your advantage, as well as how it will and will not affect your SEO efforts. Nice!

Social Media Marketing

SMM networks can work exceptionally well IF YOU ARE ALREADY A RECOGNIZED BRAND in a target niche. If you are a small business in the process of defining your brand, trying to locate your target niche, developing PR, and linkbaiting – time consuming in of itself - then you have to accept the fact that, the time it actually takes to convert one customer or realize a sale can easily mitigate the effort involved.
I completely agree with Joe Whyte on all counts: You must know who your target market is and be able to identify them in other social sites and then build content for that community. BUT, it all takes time and since SMM does not currently supply clear analytics that can be referenced and measured, it’s really a crap shoot when dealing with businesses that are desperate to be involved in SMM and who need to quantify results. You've got to use SMM as supplemental marketing and have solid SEO in the bag already.

social media SEO?

I haven't got benefits from this ways

Nothing New

I Social Media Network sono molto utili a livello di pubblicità, di diffusione capillare dei contenuti... D'altra parte secondo Me, Google e gli altri motori di ricerca li trattano al pari di altri siti web o blog, con l'unica differenza che ha molto da imparare ed esaminare al loro interno..! Complimenti per l'articolo... Thanks

Social media is necessary in

Social media is necessary in any SEO campaign nowadays.

Hope I will Find Success With Social Media

"Nice Article", I must say, I understand that these days SEO experts are emphasize greatly on the benefits of social media in SEO and obviously it might be very helpful, but I personally am not able to gain success with social media. I do get some traffic from social bookmarking sites but I am yet to have SEO benefits from it, though DIGG is one good site in my personal opinion when you talk about backlink.

Facebook SEO

There is an SEO use for Facebook and it is much more simple than the analysis above has returned. Traffic Generation! Games and Applications can direct customers to your site as a simple link out of facebook or in a more complex form submission mannor. Also, I have seen excellent examples of facebook applications used as "teasers" that finish with the message "if you like this check out more on our site"

SEO on social media

I think that SEO on social media is tricky. People have very different expectations of behavior (i.e., linking) on social media sites. They are quick to pull out the "SPAM" label for anything they don't like. As you consider SEO plays in social media, you need to be aware of this.

Social Networking

Although I have had a website up and running for over three years now I am just learning about social networking.

I have a question I hope to get answered before I get too deep into signing up on various sites. I would like to know the advantage of inviting someone to be your "friend". Or why I would accept an invitation to become someone's friend. I just do not understand what all that is about.

Thanks!

Someone smarter than I

I knew there were SEO benefits with social bookmarking sites, it just took someone with more knowledge than I have to lay it out.

SEO, social web and SEM

this issue is very complex.
IMHO in small scale SEM nofollow links can be the real added value that make your site appear very high in SERPs.
TBH I have to say also that being an italian SEO, I often face low semantical competition environments in which you may just need a bunch of backlinks to rank high.
anyway, I agree with Jow White in the sense that nofollow tags, though not passing pagerank, are still evaluated by serach engine spiders in order to rank the page.
from a stict traditional marketing perspective, I think that often big budgets invested in high competition SEO activities, earn low revenues, while, in well blended proportions, they can be one of the most valuable parts of a marketing and branding strategy.
very good article indeed

I'm still wondering on

I'm still wondering on social media. So much info both ways. Thanks for the info.

this may have a knock on

this may have a knock on effect but no direct effect

Facebook looks a bit like Twitter now, doesn't it?

All social media sites, Facebook and Twitter including are important components of the social media marketing umbrella. You will need a combination of these in order to be succesful online.

Regarding Facebook and Twitter however, have you noticed how similar Facebook's opening page looks to Twitter? This change happened soon after they had lost their $500M plan to take over Twitter end last year. I have always been wondering why would you even want to follow people you don't really know. (Except for stalking purposes, maybe...). Facebook has now corrected this issue, so that you can now follow people that you actually do know; your friends and relatives.

Since this "twitter-style" upgrade Facebook users have now been a whole more active in updating their own statuses and following up their friends statuses and comments. And this is how it should be. I still like Twitter as the original inventor of microblogging, however, I think it works better on other social platforms, such as Facebook, Bebo and MySpace. What do you think? Send a me a Tweet. http://twitter.com/KrisOlin

Exposure + PageRank

SM make it easy to get more traffic and thus new readers for the website and maybe someone got interested and go through linking back. So it's great for socializing the content and make your site/blog more familiar among readers. Nevertheless, it's not that jucy in case we talked about the no-follow tag which plays important role in pageranking via linking back.

How to build links on social networking sites

how to get backlinks from social networking sites like facebook, twitter, linkedin etc.. ? i have created profile on almost all social networking site but i haven't got any back links from them, can any one tell tips and techniques how to build backlinks on social media sites.

matrimonials

Facebook for users / twitter for marketing

There is no competition between the marketing aspect, twitter provides an excellent way of pointing your followers to your blog / site etc.

Facebook allows / provides communication between users via much more comprehensive search facility. i.e you can find old friends distant relations etc.

look closely

The fact that everyone is talking about them makes it even more essential to look at these social networking tools closely.

Too time consuming to bother

It's a redundant argument unless you are SEOing a massive client with broad brand recognition. Nofollow links, of small value at best, are not going to get you results. Bloggers are not going to start posting about Fred's Milkbar because it's not of interest.

A social networking campaign relating to kmart or Greenpeace might hold some SEO value, but it is too time consuming to take the gamble for a smaller client. Your time and their money can be better spent in numerous other areas.

Social Media

Actually the nofollow tag imposed by some of the well known sites like Twitter will not fit in the SEO equation anymore.People interested in SEO will always other media sites which have a dofollow tag on them.Now even reddit have started using nofollow tags and so the visitors per month is suffering.

Agree

I agree with this opinion, just the important thing is DOFOLLOW that makes our sites could more optimal in more search engines.

Social media is a fraud

It's simple: There are billions of registered domain names and websites. It is not possible to catalog them all so that everyone gets a decent ranking. The big corporations just pay cold hard cash to be placed at the top. The rest of us are left begging.

You can have the best content on the web and never get noticed even if you employ every reasonable SEO tip in the book.

Social media just tallys the number of links out there and orders page rank according to the number of links.

This doesn't mean your site is good or you have any worthwile content; it just means you have the links.

These days you can pay for links, you can participate in link exchanges, you can blog your links all over the web just to get a good link count.

Ultimately this doesn't mean the best site wins, it just means the most audacious webmaster wins.

I don't know any just or fair way of properly ranking sites for SEO; with all of the sites out there it may not be possible. I just know that social media link counting simply isn't the way to do it. Counting the number of links doesn't mean the site is worth anything.

For the record...Social Media SITE links are not good links

Just for the record, I was not trying to say that links FROM social media sites are good for links...they are not. They are just the distribution point to get in front of people that will link to you.

My gameplan is as such:
1. Have some content that is great (and I don't mean like - you made it good, I mean like your mom sends it to you in a mass chain email without knowing you created it great).
2. Get it initial distribution on digg, delicious, stumbleupon and reddit.. This is the sites I mean when I refer to social media, in the same way I say search engines when I generally mean google.
3. Get links from some of the thousands and thousands of people who saw it on these sites. I am looking for links from bloggers, and people who still link to fun or valuable resources.

In summary, you have to actually CREATE a fun and valuable resource first, which is the truly hard part that most people won't do. THEN you distribute that content via social media, which IN TURN gets you links from other places.

There are no shortcuts. The second tier social media folks will have the same ultimate fate as second tier SEOs, and will be back to scraping by for a few bucks in two more years when the hype settles down. Those that did it right will have defensible web properties with thousands of links that others can't buy or beg for, and a nice passive income stream from them.

Social media is just another tool in the arsenal. There are really no gurus - only people that use it effectively, and people that don't, and past performance doesn't dictate future success.

Todd

Have you read the first line of your opening thoughts:

Todd Said:

"Social media marketing helps mainly with creating the global link popularity that is essential to high rankings."

Which is it, they do or they dont.

Todd Malicoat

Hi there peeps,

I think the comment by Todd is misleading as most social media sites have no follow so I don’t see how he thinks it can be used for link juice.

Social media sites are good for maintaining or destroying a sites reputation or for getting an increase in traffic.

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