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33 commentsWednesday, December 3, 2008

The Great Google Adsense Side Effect

The Internet is now built for Adsense

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Adsense is scam and it is not a scam.

I use adwords with content marketing for my site http://www.sclsports.com which is selling soccer jersey, This is adsense place at other website. It generate hugh impression and click per day. So I have to pay a lot to google. Google charge to my credit card on every $50 outstanding. But google suspend account which have high adsense click though rate and lock the money. Does this mean google bill me but most of the time find its way to delay or no payment to adsense webmaster.

You are a crook

I bought a jersey from your site and never got it. I emailed you to tell of the problem, and you promised to send another jersey which I also never got. I tried to email you to get a refund but the contact email listed on your site does not work. I tried to leave feedback through the form on your site and got no reply.

To anyone thinking of dealing with sclsports.com, DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS INTERNET SCAMMER!

Previous poster is correct! DO NOT do business with SCL Sports

Purchased 2 jerseys first week of August - waited 5 weeks. Sent email to vendor - replied, stating that package was lost, and would resend one of the other two items, and credit me for the second one. Asked for but never received tracking numbers. Said he would resend on September 20. Never received package or credit on my account. It is now November 6. Would love for this guy to do the right thing, but I guess that'll never happen. If looking for reasonably priced soccer jerseys around $30 USD - try www.bornprosper.com. I've had good luck with him in the past.

Adsense on the side

We are producers of brass jewelry findings for costume jewelry manufacturers and the related trades. Because of the nature of search and the fact that one of the keywords in most of our important phrases is "jewelry", we found ourselves with a fair amount of traffic that really did not want to be at our site, adsense has provided a way for us to redirect this traffic and at the same time put a nickel or two toward our hosting expense. We have been able to use some of the revenue to create more content that enhances the experience of a lot of our visitors.

Affiliate/Adsense

Affiliate links I agree is and can be more rewarding, if you have traffic for your content. I use adsense as a space holder to complete my pages.

adsense

asense is still the best until now

change ethe derection.

change ethe derection.

Adsense

So far, I am happy with Adsense. I get only about 60 to 120 hits a day, but I have been able to earn between $80 and $150 a month. You just have to figure out how to make Adsense work on your site with ad placement and colors. Now, I wish I could figure out how to get more traffic to my site! That's the hard one. I used to have Amazon affiliate ads and that was a total waste of time.

nice

nice how to. in this information era we need increase our financial IQ to use information as new income.

Affiliate ads are better

I feel affiliate adverts work better than adsense. Unless you build your site right and place the adsense ads in the right places and in matching colours to your site the click through rate is always low (and so is the pay!), and by doing this to increase CTR you are almost trying to fool people into thinking the ads are part of the content and not ads at all.

Secondly the quality of the ads is often bad and unrelated to your site, form the other side I find advertising on the content network a waste of time if you have not hand picked the sites for the ads to go on and written the ad for the content network rather than search. Sadly the content network is on by default in Adwords so you get bad quality ads. I aslo feel it can make your site seem cheap, mainly because you associate seeing them on spammy sites.

With affiliate adverts you can choose exactly what you advertise and who with more professional looking ads. With a gadget site as you mentioned you can link directly to the product you are talking about (and that hopefully your visitors are interested in). Still as with adsense you need decent traffic to convert it to earnings, and not only that but good quality traffic

I'm guilty of this. I, one

I'm guilty of this. I, one of the millions of bloggers out there is also trying hard to establish a presence online, and for what - to earn, and Google's Adsense has been on the top of the list. Nonetheless, I make sure that I have quality posts.

I have to do research for this.

It seems i have to do the research for the above topic - to see wheter it is correct or wrong.

I see Adsense as a Scam.

This is from personal experience and not something I pulled out of the air. I see adsence as a scam because its sole purpose is to redirect your customers to other online stores. In turn they pay you a few cents for doing so hence the word Adsense or Ad-Cents. When your balance hits one-hundred dollars Adsense sends you a pin number and you enter your bank information for direct deposit. Then the Adsense group checks your site for content and if any of your links take people to any site that even sells women’s underwear your account will be suspended and they will not pay you the money you earn. Adsense owed me just under $200 when they sent me my letter. Adsense is scam who offers an incentive to seal your business and then doesn't pay you.

Adsense is not scam is a

Adsense is not scam is a business, you are an associate and the revenue is shared between google and the editor(YOU).

 

It seems you are not using it.

Not correct...

The author provides a very basic intro into making money with adsense, but doesnt really go indepth into how it is done.

Here is the real advice for making money with adsense...you will not do it with either a blog or a forum. They both have notoriously low click thorugh rates. Communities DO NOT click on ads. This is basic stuff Rich !!! 

What the author should say is that review sites for the gadgets mentioned are more appropriate. Adsense ads should also be laid out in the best way to attract eyeballs and then clicks. 

Also, just having a keyword in the domain is not going to get you traffic (if you want Google traffic, MSN may send you visitors though).

Anyone wanting the low down on Adsense should type 'Joel Comm' into Google.

@ James Todman...heres some advice man....UPDATE YOUR SITE...and watch traffic and those adsense CPMs increase!!!

 

 

 

A couple of points....

Hi Matt,

My article was designed to point out to the larger audience of WebProNews that is interested in Internet trends that there are thousands of sites now being constructed purely to cash in from Adsense. Additionally, many of these sites are of decent quality and are useful to readers, not just scraper sites.

I agree with you that review sites for gadgets deliver a much higher click rate than forums or general blogs. This is due to the fact that people who come to a post in a review style blog or site from a search engine are more likely searching as a precursor to buying the product being reviewed.

Regarding the product domain naming strategy, I am not advocating it, just noting that this is what many popular gadget blogs/forums are doing and that the strategy is working for them. Is this the most important SEO tactic, definitely not.

Thanks,

Rich Ord
CEO, iEntry, Inc.
Publisher of WebProNews

Filling the net with guff

Rich,

I appreciate that you're simply helping people to create sites where they might be able to make some money from the net. My only problem is that all these MFA sites, and there are hundreds of thousands at this stage, just fill the web with more or less useless pap. To give an example, I recently tried to stream a football (soccer to you guys) game and according to the SERPs returned for my very specific search I had a wealth of choices to choose from. Alas, not so. It took me over 20 minutes to trawl through slow-loading sites, all filled with adsense and containing nothing but broken links or links that led to another site where the process began again, before I finally found a way of watching the match.

So it is for almost every product out there. Site after site that have been constructed solely to attract clicks, but lack any real content - and 200 sites containing the exact same info on a new product is, to me, a total waste of bandwidth. Of course, the new Google search wiki is proving to be quite useful in this regard - should I ever feel like searching for the same thing in the future - as it allows the user to permanently remove all the rubbish from the SERPs. Unfortunately, getting rid of it all is going to be a very time consuming ordeal.

MFAs have a bad name because they're 90% total, utter rubbish. The best use of adsense should be subtle. If you have a site that is proving popular because it offers the visitor something, then add some adsense by all means. But this creating sites around a topic simply so you can fill it with ads.....I consider it a form of SERPs spam.

Call me a purist, or naive, but to quote Mister Horse from Ren & Stimpy "No Sir, I don't like it".

I agree..

I agree with James. Adsense really doesn't pay much unless you get tons of clicks. Most people are on your site for the content. I have it on my safety ands security web site and I get very few Adsense clicks. Thanksfully, my visitors are there for my great products and clicking on the ads.

it better to make the

it better to make the articles also in French

Great article.  Yes, I

Great article.  Yes, I agree we are in the stages on an advertising boom on the internet.  However, adsense earnings are down at least 30% from last year.  Looks like the corporate execs have their hand in the cookie jar again.

I boycott Adsense

I used Google Adsense for 3 years, and had gradually built up my income to where it was covering hosting costs, and no more. Then, out of the blue, my account was "disabled." No warning, no explanation. I applied for reinstatement and got not response. Since I did not break TOS, I have no idea why my account was disabled, and the fact that they won't tell me is just infuriating. It's obviously some mistake, since, I repeat, I didnt' break TOS, and yet I can't fight back because they won't explain! So I'm boycotting Google Adsense - will never click on an ad, and telling all my friends to do the same. Yeah, I know that's just an infitisimal drop in the bucket...but if I ever win the lottery and have the werewithal to sue their asses off, I'll do that, too!

 you are right. the biggest

 you are right. the biggest problem with google is, there is no communication possible with them, except at adwords where they usually replay to questions between 2 and 3 days, thats about the same speed like the horse coach mail in the wild west, see the difference ?  the forums where maybe a google employee checks in from time to time are a yoke und quite useless. google has already reached the top stage of the peter priciple, they just havnt noticed it and if they go on like this they will go bust like IBM almost did in the -90 tie. they had exactly the same attitude like google this days.

Poor Advice by Author which is unfounded and incorrect

Sir,

Your comment as follows "but trademarking is no longer enforced by a large army of corporations on the Internet. The reason is because companies have finally figured out that Internet content centered around their brands is rather GOOD for their brands!" is way off base and legally incorrect without question.

Whether a business decides they want to enforce their trademarks or not is up to them.  But the fact of the matter is your advice is opening people up to legal troubles as many companies still do pursue enforcing their trademarks. 

New sites can easily avoid these issues by picking a domain name that does not infringe upon them.  The domain name has little to do in the overall rankings when you are taking about top 10 sites.  I am sure you will agree it has much more to do with content and backlinks.

Your advice is irresponsible to say the least.

Best regards,

Bob

I wasn't giving advice, just stating the obvious

Hi Bob,

I wasn't giving advice, I was saying a fact. In the world of gadgets and games corporations are not in general going after domain holders using their brand in the domain.

I don't really get why you would make the outrageous statement that my "advice is irresponsible" when I was simply stating the obvious. All you have to do is search Google for brand names like Wii, ipod, nokia and you will see many blogs and forums with those trademarked names in the domains.

Despite your disagreement with me, thanks for your comment.

Rich Ord
CEO, iEntry, Inc.
Publisher of WebProNews

Trademark in url = still not the best idea, imo

Although I'll be less inflammatory... ... I would also agree it is often best to NOT use other company's trademarked names in your url. Especially not JUST the trademark names as the url. Trademark owners may or may not go after violators, but that's something that'll hang over your head forever... especially if you become successful and (worse) profitable. For instance, try to get a url with Disney or Microsoft in the name... Many will recall a kid named Mike Row, who designed websites or something and named his website MikeRowSoft.com (iirc). And Microsoft went after him, which ended up resulting in bad PR for the company but they still ended up getting the website shut down or renamed. Celebrities have also been known to take over control of websites with their names in the url by going to court - Madonna being one I think I read about. A bad case scenario would be if a blogger was to build up a huge following on their website, getting 10,000 visitors and earning hundreds or thousands of dollars every day... and then the trademark owner, whose name you used for the url, comes calling with their lawyers and ends up taking it all away from you. That *might* be mitigated if the blog owner was smart enough to build up an email subscriber list under a different name than that url - and could then steer them all to a new url he could subsequently create with the same subject matter. But RSS Feed subscribers would be gone, along with all those trademarked website visitors. :( So yeah - I wouldn't take the chance if I had a choice. 'Android' is a name that Google can't really trademark, since it's a word that's been around for while and associated with something else. But trademark control factors is likely one of the reasons Intel stopped producing chips like '386' and '486' processors and renamed them "Pentium". They couldn't trademark a number, but they can trademark a new word (check the dictionary - it ain't there). :) Just my two cents. Good post!

paragraphs

Hmmm - I wonder why there are no 'paragraphs' in my above comment, when it was written with them (and other comments do have spacing between paragraphs)...? Bummer

Blackberry Storm was a TV ad storm too!

Its nice to blame Google for all the success.. but very traditional ways (and big, big money) were involved in making those lines go out the door for the Blackberry Storm.  Their TV ads were awesome.. for the few million of us who don't get all our news off the internet.

Plus there was the leftover Apple iPhone envy effect for Verizon subscribers!

(Ad)sense or (non)sense

Since the whole world is moving towards being online all the time, of course it makes sense to have ads for every niche.

We have been using online marketing and adwords for 4+ years, and it is definetely working for our niche (laughter workshops). It is extremely expensive compared to traditionel media, but the response rate is alo much higher than can be expected from traditional media.

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