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44 commentsThursday, November 27, 2008

Paid Links Go Underground

How to buy a link without buying a link

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How can google fight paid blogging?

It seems there are some black hat SEO technique that google will never ever be able to penalize people for. Unless a web site specifically advertises that they blog for money, google will never know. Paid blogging, paid articles, paid links in an article (calculated to look like an article not written for seo purposes) - how can google regulate such things? There will always be ways around google.

Websites and paid link

Many Bloggers are now doing paid posts . It has became on of the tactic of seo professionals , as Google find outs paid text links . Paid posts are now the alternate source of income for Bloggers .

I have had no luck with paid

I have had no luck with paid links

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Tempting, but . . .

The idea of finding a way around Google's "Laws" can be tempting.  It IS so difficult and so much hard work to find good quality inbound links.

BUT, the truth is that a paid link is an artificial link. It is not a natural link that reflects good quality content.  Good content will always naturally generate inbound links. 

In the end, Google tries to serve up good quality content for it's users. This has worked for them -- Google is at the top of the search engine heap.  Over the years, I have seen a lot of linking schemes and systems get caught by a Google dance and then it's bye-bye rankings.

 

Paid Links are still Unethical

Regardless of whether or not paid links can be undetected it's still unethical to engage in such practices. I know I might sound like a seem like a 5 year old but it the truth. If Google says not do that, and you want to be included in their search engine, then just don't do it. You always have the option of not being included in their search engine.



Gained I understand it's much more work to come up with ways to get quality links without simply selecting a link and buying it. But in the end it's rather rewarding to now you did that all your self.



That's what we do in our SEO company. We come up with creative and effective ways for getting quality links pointing back to the site. It allows us to remain ethical and not have to worry about the ranking of a client's site being pulled or dropped.



Am i wasting my time then ?

 Trying to get links from other sites for our holidays business in the French Alps. I choose site with a link to us page is this not a good idea ?  

Yes, link pages aren't that great

Yes, link pages are not that good. Most link exchange page or directories on sites just are not a good place to get links. In the past these types of links might have been good and effective but for the most part now these types of links are not going to benefit you.

2 reasons why:

1. These pages tend not to get index in Google thus your link won't ever get counted. Reason being that most of these link exchange directories are just hundreds of pages with links pointing out to other website. Google usually would rather focus their time indexing pages with real content than crawling hundred of pages on someone's site where each page simply has links to other sites on it.

2. Most link pages or link exchange directories tend to have a very low amount of PR, thus the benefit from obtaining a link from that page is rather low.

All in all, I've just about completely stopped exchanging links as I've found it's more of a wait of time. Instead I've been focusing on creating quality content and researching and coming up with creative ideas for obtaining links. The effect is natural quality links back to your site and thus a much higher return on my time invested.

 

How much does Google REALLY notice?

I'm curious how much google REALLY notices paid links. Do sites actually get demoted for this... there is a lot of talk of it but rarely any evidence I have seen.  I'm also curious how in reality (as opposed to the "official" answer) those websites/directories thats say they charge for "review" as opposed to inclusion get treated?

New : FreePornDirectory.net

FreePornDirectory.net Is a free porn directory organised by category with non reciprocal link

DMOZ And Yahoo

So do listings in DMOZ also get penalized and discouraged? How about Yahoo's directory? Did anybody tell them? I suspect not since they have not lowered their price!

RE: DMOZ And Yahoo

I beleive Google has begun devaluing links from DMOZ and Yahoo within their search results. Appears to be a popular topic recently.

I'd love like to......

I liked the idea of buying links yet not paying for. Good! As you not only get links but you also get publicity and good deed rewards after death. :0)

quality backlinks always count

thanks WPN for this good information..as quality backlinks always count and all point mentioned here perfect good way to get backlinks and if you have done some link building withour checking link partner then bust review all of them and filter it with badsite...hope this will help..:)

Bribing bloggers is

Bribing bloggers is unlikely. Not the right words of course but an incentive or a gift... :)

Bribing Bloggers?!

Well I never! To think that such a thing could ever go on!

How to get rnakings

Why do you all want to push the link thing so hard?

 

I know you all think that lots of links to you will help.  Truthfully, it does a bit, but the best way to get real visitors is to sub-channel another site.

 

Sub-channeling is easy.  Say you have a website that sells John Deer tractors.  well, who would be the best site to have a link on?  John Deer of course.  You want to align yourself with your master-sellers.  That way you are a value to them, and them to you.

 

Having the website indexed means nothing if you do not have a traffic flow that is natural.  We do that for our customers at hostlongisland.com and yourdatacenter.com every day.  As a result they are happy to have the words "Hosted by HostLongIsland.com at YourDataCenter" listed proudly!

 

Good selling to you all.  -Al

Link Building

Again, more 30,00ft nonsense.  Give practical examples.  What about a site like mine that sells nipple rings and not a good idea for charities?  We like back to breastcancer.org because we send them donations. We do not brag about our donation nor do we mention it on our site because we do not want sales for that reason. Are we naive?

Can we get ideas from some of these "SEO" experts on how to really get link backs?  SHow me how to catch the fish!

thanks

Love anything that helps out charity!

I'm a big fan of the charity route myself... I suppose in a sense it's not charity if you're getting a valuable return link out of it, but it's not a whole lot different from the idea of donating to charity in hopes of a tax break, when you think about it. Besides, you get a link, and someone in need gets warm clothes or a hot meal... how can you go wrong with that?

Links the free way - ethically!

As the director of a seo company I would say there is no new information available in this post. This is simply advice on how to manipulate Google by creating links that are not relevant or natural. There are many ways to gain links that are high quality - for free.

I have never understood the mentality that seems to think having 100's of links placed on insignificant directories will help your rankings. It won't!!! Google doesn't acknowledge directory listings.

Surely the need for links primarily is to drive traffic to your site!! If you create links with this at the forefront of your mind, you will then be creating links worth having which Google will deem as high quality.

Charity Linkage

Approaching charities and offering Freebies. Great idea! It seems that every Christmas I get asked about donations of Santa Suits from www.santasuitsdirect.com or Santa Beards from www.santabeards.com to some organization with no money and a worn out Santa costume.  I guess it's time to start asking for something in return. After all they are the ones initiating the offer of something for free, why not get a link in return? Finally a way to rid ones self of the guilt of turning them down.  

3 SEO tips that seam to be constent

SEO is an ongoing ever changing process.

I've found that 3 main things are constent with my sites.

Relevent Content with a good site map will bring in great results from the search engin. Lots of pages with real text content specific for each page.(not garbage pages that are made for search engins)

Links to your sites with your key words in the link not just your url.

blogs, posts, free sites, and anywhere you can. This will help with search engins and with people that just stumble accross your site.

I have 2 similar websites started around the same time. (born on date of your web site counts) These methods have worked for www.pursepartypackage.com very well. I have yet to implement them on www.my-purseparty.com due to time. I would receive more profits from this site if i would take the time.

more from Rand

Rand goes into this a little further on his blog at SEOmoz.  As always, he gives great advice, but actually implementing these will take some time.  Better for clients with big budgets...

Links

As someone who works primarily on his own site it would seem not to make any sense to try and game Google .

 www.straughan.ca

.The idea of approaching charities etc. would seem like a win-win situation to me which is the best way of doing business after all .

Thanks for the interesting articles.

Jim Straughan

Ideal links

great ideas for marketers..

So what is the conclusion ?

In this article there is no where it's discussed that how we can buy links with out bying links!

A link that is relevant in the text of a webpage
A link that is the only link on the page or one of very few on the site (this is important)
Links with varied anchor text
Links from inside pages
Links that are long term.

These 5 points observed by almost all major seos. So what is new ? Have I missed some thing ? Would love to get an answer ... please.

Not just paid links

As Google cannot discriminate between a paid link and a free link, it has simply chosen to ignore all links from those thousands of nominal business directories that have appeared over the past few years. I think that someone at Google bought Directory Submitter software and simply blanked off all the directories featured within it. The problem is that I have some of my own free, list yourself directories which have now been bundled in with the above.

Like the ideas here, thanks

Like the ideas here, thanks for the tips.

very intresting indeed

very intresting indeed

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