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95 commentsWednesday, October 8, 2008

Google Devaluing DMOZ and Yahoo! Links?

Removes Webmaster Guidelines

95 Comments

Yahoo! Directory

I was paying $299/year for the dirctory and recieved about 20 hits a month from the service. Obviously, the value would be in getting ranked higher in the search engines as opposed to people actually using the directory. I have since stopped paying for the directory but they still have me paying $9/month for their local listing. Should I cancel that plan as well?

DMOZ

I see that DMOZ is a great resource for the web but at times I have wonder who actually edits the listings as they seem to come and go with no real set pattern....Ive alwasy wondered if people are able to game it for their own benefit somehow.

Its Really Bad

By the way DMOZ also keep the listings quality and free just like you guys do, so Google could have removed Yahoo directory only from its webmaster guidelines and let DMOZ be there. Now, let me tell you something, I submitted my site to around 500 directories last month and now I can see my 2 year old site vanish from Google SERPs, while my less than 10 days old site is on the first page for its keywords.
So, is it harmful to submit your site to directories now? Will Google penalize you? And how can they do this all of a sudden. huh!

Clothes lines

I sell clothes lines on my website and i am included on dmoz. I dont like googles devaluing of dmoz because i think it serves a great purpose to google in that it humanly reveiws a site. Human reveiwing at dmoz might have its faults but some directories dont even reveiw at all.

Dmoz And Yahoo Directory

Google may not recommend dmoz and yahoo directory anymore but truth is that sites listed in dmoz and yahoo directory are still ranking high in google. I would say these directories still have value.

Because they hav no real use

Directories have no real use. DMOZ was alright until strange stuff started to surface between webmasters buying listings from editors or the opposite editors charging for listings.

because these directories suck

Yes, they contain old and spammy sites, they do not review their sites on a regular basis, so their index is a big collection of crap. that's why!

Why is google doing this?

I donot know why google is taking this action, listing of a site in a good directory is an indication of the great value of this site, But I agree that google is not giving value to open directory or yahoo directory

DMOZ

Thanks goodness Google is doing away with DMOZ! I realized that Google was using DMOZ record for the company description several years ago. The description of our company on DMOZ was way off from our business. It was very frustrating to see no matter how I changed the meta tags or the content, the wrong description of our company on Google never changed! I tried to update the description again and again in the past 3-4 years on DMOZ but never succeeded. I finally had to include a meta tag to tell Google specifically NOT to use DMOZ data for the description. And it worked.
I don't think the open directory has any value anyway.

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DMOZ

I had one of our sites listed in the directory and then one day it was just gone!! Who decides what stays and what goes?? I thyink it is in the best interest of all for these links to be devalued!

Haha

Gary, thats because u changed your domain geo and u didnt get reincluded this time and i did. U didnt have a problem when u were included and i wasnt. Just face it, your site doesnt contain anything unique, which is probably y it was rejected.

What's stopping a corrupt

What's stopping a corrupt DMOZ volunteer editor from denying his competition from being listed in the directory?

Google is lazy and lets dmoz do its work

I dont think google has put any effort into building its own directory and has hence relied on dmoz to biuld a directory for them as google lists dmoz's listings. If google devalues dmoz then its devaluing what it once held to be good. Its obviously a stance against directories as most directories have lost pr. Directories are good because they humanly reveiw a site which google doesnt do, so it does a job for google. Some sites cannot get links without directories because their products are un linkworhty such as lawn mower sales sites. I hope google doesnt devalue directories any more than it has.

Why not Guide New Recruits?

I just don't understand how so many apllications can be denied. Why not accept the good ones and have moderators monitor and correct them as they learn.

Why would businesses not take on apprentices if they didn't expect a return in productivity in the long run. And that's what DMOZ needs more than anything if it's to lose the contempt by us all with regards to Google and others continuing to use it as their first stop and 'cherry garden' for the www.

Get Rid or Get On with it!

Glad to see directories go!

I work as a personal assistant for the CEO of an Internet Marketing company and I have to say I'm glad to see them go! I agree that they are pretty out dated now, most people don't even bother with directories anymore. I think its a great move on Google's part and will help make their search results more relevant.

Biased towards large companies

So a smaller business, with just one branch but with services offered over a large region, will only be listed on the lowest Region-specific sub-directory, whilst a large company - through having multiple branches - will be listed on a higher directory with, and this is the bias, a naturally higher PageRank... !

What's the best cream for removing frown-lines?...

dmoz

Mayby it's a time clean the garbige.That is good.

Let Google devalue d'moz. I

Let Google devalue d'moz. I trust Google that its in its interest to return good results so i'm not bothered.

Dmoz??? i dont care it, lol

Dmoz??? i dont care it, lol i am not listed there.Why should i???
And i think i now have the answer.

Can't get listed anyway...

Thanks, Chris, for bringing this to our attention. Like so many who have commented before me, I too have tried, fruitlessly to get my safety and security web site listed with DMOZ.

However, I did sign up with Yahoo Directory for the heafty price of $299 and have seen my traffic improve over 60% so that was a good move.

Good, bad or ugly, Google is king and we all need to keep our eyes and ears on what makes them happy so we can comply or suffer for ignoring them.

thanks

thanks

Pushing away SEO

Man, they're just making things harder and harder to get a good positioning.

Mr  YTT12 has written (I

Mr  YTT12 has written (I have tried endless times to get listed in dmoz but gave up in the end. even applied to be a editor no luck, what you havent got you don't miss. I have now joined a online community with over 200,000 membersand have seen visitor numbers rise over 40%in 6 months. Also google crawl them like crazy.Any one interested its 100% free and run by ). It is happened to me also

  It is true. Not only that we have to wait for years to include (And you have some luck also) in Dmoz. So how google can rely on it. It runs like directory of one year old. Not only that if you got listed they make your website  and SEO a mess by not updating your URL as the time goes. If you change your URL still you find your link listed there. You sold your domain to a domain parking page, still you find your URL there. Even if you apply to remove or update, they just sleep. I congradulate Google for doing this to Dmoz as it a directory of olden days. DMOZ direcotry is one of the directory which is having most Bad outgoing links

 I do not give value more than a crap to it. Even small directories are better tha DMOZ as it is very relevant.

 I realy wonder How google has given so much value for it until now

 

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DMOZ directory

Our website http://www.frontware.com is listed on DMOZ.

I never get any visitors from there. So I understand why Google just don't insist to get listed in a business directory.

NO ONE WILL REALLY DMOZ

I have tried endless times to get listed in dmoz but gave up in the end.

even applied to be a editor no luck, what you havent got you don't miss.

I have now joined a online community with over 200,000 members

and have seen visitor numbers rise over 40%in 6 months. Also google crawl them like crazy.

Any one interested its 100% free and run by BT.http://tradebusiness.at/YTT12

MICK UK

 

It's all about the money...

 

 

 

Google, like lawyers and Doctors, do not care if you are innocent or guilty, right or wrong, sick or well, healable or terminal, they just want to know if you have enough money to pay their bill.

Google, wants you to PAY for getting top listings. Don’t tell me that Google advertisers get low rankings. Same as when you PAY for an ad in a local newspaper, GEE miraculously they choose YOU to write a feature article about!

It’s all about the money.

Google is dropping directories like DMOZ just to force merchants into PAYING for higher placement, it has nothing to do with content or relevancy.

It’s all about the money.

We started our online business www.T-Zers.Net way (for free) back when most things on the Internet were FREE, (including Netzero, which proclaimed in early ads that the "Internet was meant to be free" - and it was, but now…

It’s all about the money.

Internet companies have to pay their execs big salaries, then justify that to stockholders, and not to mention all the other expenses of doing "business" - but that is where they lost it. It was never meant to "be" for business.

Now it is little more than a candy coated version of your television - which also by the way "used to be free" - for those of you who remember the days of UHF and VHF - which was PAID FOR by Advertisers - now YOU pay to receive PAID advertisements… something wrong with that picture…

We have operated for over ten years without having to PAY for advertising. We started out with Free internet access, a Free website, Free e-mail accounts, Fee listings on search engines and directories, when "content" put you at the top of the list - not your wallet.

But, we, like all the other on-line merchants will eventually succumb to their demands, we have no choice - change or die.

Your So Right!

Amen! To add to this comment a little further, Google keeps telling us to have more relevent content and that they want to offer the user a better experience. It's all about providing the searcher better results. However, no matter what you are searching for, the top results are almost always articles or content. I dont want to read an article!

If I want to buy a red pair of shoes, I want to search for a red pair of shoes and when the results come up, I want someone selling me a pair of red shoes. But really what happens is, I find a bunch of articles on buying a red pair of shoes.

However, look to the side where the adwords run and you can buy plenty of red shoes. It is not about providing the user better results with more relevent content, it is about pushing the vendor to buying clicks for Adwords, plain and simple! Now, the natural results are full of worthless articles and useless content. But, Adwords is making a killing!

 

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