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I own many domains (about
I own many domains (about 40), and only one of them is actually listed in DMOZ, and in my opinion the reason why is simple: most of them don't deserve to be in DMOZ. I may not want to admit it, and it would be easy to point the bony finger and cry corruption, but the truth is that most of my sites don't belong in the directory and I think many others who are firing off here probably don't have sites that make the cut either. It is tough to chew on and swallow, but no one said the truth would taste good.
Does Google have it's hands
Does Google have it's hands in the pockets of DMOZ and BOTW, like they do with so many other companies. We sell sink stainless steel and to have not been able to get listed in DMOZ. What about applying to be an editor? Has anyone tried this successfully?
I think the DMOZ is
I think the DMOZ is overrated nowadays anyway, i am not listed there and although all my competitors are i still do well in the rankings. Too many people put to much emphasis on getting listed, at the end of the day it still only adds up to one link.
DMOZ still worth the effort
I know it does seem to take a long time to get a client list in DMOZ but do think it's worth the effort.
No luck
Been trying to list my freelance website for ages now and no luck. there's no question in my mind that you have to paid to get listed even though they not saying. Hard to understand when you look at the websites that are listed why yours can't be.
DMOZ
Seems like a conflict of interest to me. The fact that only a few websites can gain access to DMOZ and the 95% of other websites around the net can't. I think you have to paid big dollars to get yourself listed on that directory.
DMOZ?
Please tell me something: Why is it that Google weighs so much into DMOZ? Why on earth should it affect your rankings or is it something to do with people that will be listed in the DMOZ directory?
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Google should ignore DMOZ
Why does google continue to place such weight on their listings? Some categories don't even have editors and my category is one of those. We have been trying for years to get our site which sells stainless steel sinks on DMOZ and have had no luck. What can you do if your category doesn't even have an editor?
Google only punishes smaller competition
Google only punishes smaller competition, They say they dont put up with site's that sell's link's, but they are full of it. BOTW sell's links for a hefty price and says it's for a review, nothing more the a disclaimer. Let a smaller directory try that as see how fast they get black listed.
As far as DMOZ it's hard to believe that most of the editors are not corrupt. Most of the editors there probably couldn't get any of their site's listed, and what better way then to become an editor. For the few editor's that are not corrupt, they act like it's there duty to turn down site's, as if being an editor comes with alot of prestige and their poop dont stink.
Maybe they should sell DMOZ to BOTW, that way they can get rid of these so called "editors" and start charging for links as they always have been.
My Fixed rotary clothes lines site is included in both.
Yay im included in both but i was a bit worried about having to pay money to join botw due to googles veiw of it but i did it anyway. Something i dont normally do. Im releived to hear that google doesnt mind as they dont mind with yahoo dir.
I am an editor at DMOZ
There is some interesting feedback in this thread, although I can't say I agree with a lot of it. I have never accepted money to list a site, and I am not an SEO guy. I have a day job that is completely unrelated to the internet and the category I edit at DMOZ. I review sites in my category pretty regularly, submit new sites and clean up old ones, and I try to answer all inquiries. Although I can not speak for every last person who volunteers at DMOZ, I find it difficult to believe "they" are all corrupt because I am one of "them" and I consider myself to be a person of strong integrity and I do the best I can in the spare time that I have.
I own many domains (about 40), and only one of them is actually listed in DMOZ, and in my opinion the reason why is simple: most of them don't deserve to be in DMOZ. I may not want to admit it, and it would be easy to point the bony finger and cry corruption, but the truth is that most of my sites don't belong in the directory and I think many others who are firing off here probably don't have sites that make the cut either. It is tough to chew on and swallow, but no one said the truth would taste good.
Is DMOZ perfect? If they were, then they would be the first on the net to be perfect. .. meaning no one is. For those who are genuinely concerned, I would suggest that they apply as an editor, for the right reasons. I did, and I didn't have any problems getting picked up. BTW: That I know of: I have never met or spoken to another DMOZ editor, in person or on the net. ... if there is a secret circle then I must be standing on the outside of it.
The Cut
When you say most of the sites don't make "the cut", your tone epitomizes the very core of what "most" people are complaning about. I believe that most of the people complaining about DMOZ are speaking from common sense experience rather than being bitter about "not making "the cut". Most of the catagories i've experienced are littered with sites that just simply should not have made "the cut" while many worthy sites lye in cue. I suppose you would have to belong to the "secret circle" to understand WHY?
Authority and commitment
I think the sale would make sense to be honest. Although not as possible as DMOZ, BOTW has done a great job listing mostly high quality websites, and I believe they are authority in their own right.
DMOZ and BOTW
Well sounds like a lot of others have had the same experience with DMOZ that I have. We have been trying to get our site, Tribal Sports Wear's Blank Wholesale T-Shirts Club listed with them for about a year now. With of course no luck, I have even emailed the editor for my catagory asking for advice and what I should change (if anything) to make my site appropriate for listing. Would you believe that I have received no reply as of yet. I'm not sure if BOTW buying them is good or not. I do know that I still don't like paying to have my site included in a directory. It's really simple, search engines bread and butter are site links. With out quality sites indexed in their system they have nothing to feed their users. So if I have to pay to get in, then they just lost 1 more quality site link for their index.
Tribal Sports Wear
Blank Wholesale T-Shirts and Apparel Club and we are open to the public!
I cant get listed
I have been trying for several years
to get listed not working
What are they protecting ?
the internet or is someone paying them to keep
some sites out
just type nitenet on any search you will find my sites
google yahoo all
type fresh life ministries same here
to get listed just blog about them they will list you
search robots love blogs they look for them
there should be a ruling that if you offer a search site you should
index a site when asked first time free
My exercise software got on there OK
I found this thread interesting for only recently did it occur to me to resubmit my site.
I sell diet and exercise software for bodybuilders and slimmers and submitted to DMOZ a year or two ago. No luck, they didn't even reply. In fairness the site used to be a bit homemade looking and having recently jazzed it up a bit plu released a newer version of the software I thought I'd try again. Right there under health and slimming diet stuff, there's my site.
So they rejected it when a bit scrappy, listed it when it looked better. One significant change was adding a tel number, as I've heard that helps.
Has my site not been under diet stuff I'm sure I'd be kicking DMOZ too - but how can I when they just listed me?
Alan
I hope they will help revive
I hope they will help revive DMOZ...Because it has been dying for years now...
DMOZ equals to broken links
I was trying to post my unique e-cards website at DMOZ since 2002. But not a single time it was accepted. Whereas, I could find links in DMOZ directory which were just parked pages or died domains. Does any DMOZ editor ever reviews his page for broken links?
DMOZ listing != Higher PR
I submitted my site DMOZ about two years ago, and was listed within 30 days. And with 30 days of that was #1 for my main keyword and have been since.
However, my PR did not change from before I was included to after. My site traffic did not increase, nothing changed... I honestly can't see any effect.
Lucky
I'm tryong to include my website into DMOZ dir from 2 years, but nothing... i receive visits anyway!
DMOZ
Hopefully any takeover will make DMOZ entry alot easier and give us poor SEO lot reasons for when sites arent listed!
lets be honest
Dmoz died a long time ago.
Can only see this as a good thing that someone sorts out The ODP that Google still places too much weight on.
BOTW is probably the best directory out there currently, so makes sense.
Tried listing
Tried listing our site www.famouslocations.com loads of times over the years and never a mention. Where as Yahoo gave us pick of the day website in 2002. So either the editors are not even looking at submittions or their judging needs improving. Seems a common problem for many people.
Could be a good move
This could be a good move if BOTW owns DMOZ. BOTW has good name and I think they will bring some new ideas for DMOZ. I hope DMOZ inclusion will be quicker once BOTW take over this.
Shoemacher is a liar who is
Shoemacher is a liar who is just intersted in earning money with ad-nonsense. This guy has just found the easiest way to do nothing in his life.
Could it be farse?
I'm a little hesitant to believe Shoemaker. Like it has been said many times in these comments--people are becoming more devious, and the internet is becoming a jungle, i.e. wikipedia and DMOZ are becoming less "objective". And perhaps Shoemaker has tricked us all into believing him to give his blog some quick traffic.
Google must penalize BOTW for selling links.
If Google wants to maintain their intergrity, it must penalize BOTW for selling links. This is supposedly Google's policy, but if sites that are "friends" of Google are exempt then this monopoly will need to be broken up somehow.
I don't think it will happen
I don't think the deal will go through too many negatives and "what if's". If BOTW buys it they run the risk of buying it for nothing because it can loose all of it's link credit (if there is anymore for the sub sub sub sub categories).
I don't think I've ever had
I don't think I've ever had a customer listed on DMoz despit e following the rules exactly. Unless you're willing to spend you'll never gtet your site on there. It just doesn't work.
Thank god... I hate dmoz
Thank god... I hate dmoz
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