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Call girls ain't worst
Call girls ain't worst things you can find via google, how bout homemade explosives?
Thanks you! your code is
Thanks you! your code is very useful & help me a lot ... thanks ya.....
I am married and have paid
I am married and have paid for a high dollar call girl model services while traveling to the sum of 2,300 per hour and although it was an enjoyable experience I could have received the same satisfaction using my hand and saving a few bucks. This girl that Governor Spitzer was with would have been well worth the high dollar amount
Prostitution online
The oldest profession and the newest technology, who could have seen that coming - pun intended.
Irrespective of your views on the morality of prostitution it certainly should be clear to anyone that's paying attention that this is one "practice" which simply isn't going away.
It's an old argument but one that needs to be made. While every effort has been and is still being made to prevent it, somehow none of those efforts seem to work. The fact that every few years there's another prostitution scandal involving public officials or celebrities simply points to that fact.
I don't endorse the practice and would never condone it. I have three adult children, two daughters and a son as well as five grandkids, including three grand daughters. If any of them chose to become "sex workers" it would give me tremendous concern.
Having said that I would still love them and care for them without being judgemental or morally repulsed. It is often said that love conquers all, and in this case as with all others, it's my feeling that love and understanding which is required not condemation.
Christian values are often held out as being the guide by which we navigate such difficult moral issues. It was after all Jesus who is quoted as saying "let he who are without sin cast the first stone".
Perhaps it is time to put down the stones and find another way.
Marvin - I couldn't have put
Marvin - I couldn't have put it better myself. Just wanted to chime a chord with you there. I'm in my early thirties by the way, and have a 7 year-old daughter.
I personally am not surprised at all that SEO/SEM has reached this industry as it has always been good at 'marketing' itself in varying degrees of subtlety. You don't even need to do 'research' to find these references, either, which is perhaps more concerning. Since I don't choose to record all these instances I cannot quote one now, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has typed an innocent search phrase and come up with some fairly saucy results!
At the end of the day it's (mostly) a free world which means the sex trade can make themselves known to people looking for them in the same way as any other trade can. I'm also sure there are some SEO pros who are delighted to specialise in this area...
Web Prostitution
Let's get one thing clear. I'm also hearing this among the cable talking heads and Internet fishwraps with regards to prostitution, legal or illegal in Nevada.
Prostitution is ILLEGAL in Las Vegas. It is ILLEGAL in Clark County, where Las Vegas is located. Prostitution is also ILLEGAL in Reno, Lake Tahoe (NV side) and Carson City. It is ILLEGAL in Washoe County where these cities reside.
Prostitution is LEGAL in Nevada where counties allow it. Las Vegas, has made attempts by the city to curb street and massage parlor prostitution. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the casino consierge's have their own stable of working girls available to the "whales" (high rollers) who want a little companionship.
The counties that do allow legal prostitution are regulated by the county. Extensive background checks are conducted, you must have a working ID card from the county sheriff's department to work inside of a legal brothel. If you have a felony conviction, you can't work in a legal brothel. If you are under 18, you can't work.
Brothel owners pay a huge license fee to operate a legal brothel in that county and a portion of the profits are paid back to the county. The legal prostitution trade operates in buildings zoned by the county. The Ladies in these counties aren't working the street. They work in the house.
The Ladies have to pass a medical clearance before they can work in the house. The customer's also have to pass what is called a DC (d*ck inspection) and latex condoms must be worn. No exceptions. By Nevada law, transactions cannot be conducted over the phone or Internet (email). Face to face in the houses only.
For the past 4 years, my friend, Gary and I have been operating nevadabrotheltimes.com, a e-zine-messageboard-website promoting Legal Prostitution in Nevada, commonly referred to as LPIN. This is where people can get the straight answers to legal prostitiution in Nevada and not the straight scoop that you see on HBO's Cat House. We are not afilliated with any legal house and you won't find any mindless banter on our site either. It's free to read and if you wish to post, you need to register which is also free. According to Netcraft, we're in the Top 50k websites.
I've been operating my own adult website, separate from NevadaBrothelTimesand despite efforts from the Federal government to curtail the adult entertainment industry, we just stay one step ahead of the game. If there's a new law, we'll find a way around it. Many wholesale sites have attorneys available to consult with (for a fee) who specialize in adult entertainment.
Prostitution is regarded as the world's oldest profession and sites that offer adult entertainment or sex will always be here. It's a comodity of supply and demand. I find it entertaining and ironic that the anti-sex squares go off on a rant, yet who gets "what" caught in the nookie jar.
Prostitution at a Brothel, still the Safest!
SAFE SEX is what it's all about!
I do marketing and promotions for Sheri's Ranch Brothel in Pahrump, Nevada about 50 minutes outside of Las Vegas where prostitution is legal. www.sherisranch.net.
This is one of the most "world known" brothels in the U.S. and proud to say that their has not been any cases of HIV in the history of the brothel. Small STD's are bound to be transmitted even with the safest sex, yet curable, but the brothels pride themselves on their strict cleanliness and safety measures. Besides, wouldn't we all rather have a grade-A-certified lay than something that's been laying out and getting a little old?
By the way, the Nevada Brothel Times is a fantastic website and they have the best information and posts about everything you need to know about Prostitution.
Too bad that we just can't get legal Brothels to be approved closer to Las Vegas. Maybe someday I'll have my way and get my designer brothel Hotel approved..."Stairway to Heaven" Come on, we know we all want it!
Thanks for reading, and check out my blog on the subject too: http:www/sinafterdark@wordpress.com.
Hi... A TriUnity distributor from N.Y. here!
More positive things to do.
Much rather focus on building THIS BUSINESS and help others do the same than focus on things we can do nothing about!
Just a thought.
Blatant?
Internet gave the power to independents to present themselves in any manner they see fit, advertise, screen clients and have complete control over what they are doing. I seriously doubt that escorts of pre-internet era had similar options and most likely had to rely on agencies.
With agencies or a strict referral system, a woman had a much more limited exposure to potential clients reducing her choices. Now, she can pick and choose if she wants to. The ease of transitioning in and out of sex work has also increased - unlike one of the previous posters, most women I know are educated, ambitious and pursue day-time careers, using sex work as a side only. If you post photos with a cropped out face and don't share much personal info on the site, chances that somebody in your other life may recognize you are minimal. I don't know if this result could be accomplished without open advertising and search engine optimization.
It also gave us voice. There is a number of sex work rights organizations, blogs and places for intelligent and educational commentary. A tool to fight for social change and acceptance, a way to organize and communicate. And that, I suppose, may appear blatant to those with no familiarity with our world.
In another way it gets back
In another way it gets back to a time when other TLDs (Top Level Domain) were debated to filter types of domains. The argument stemmed mostly around decency on the net.
I don't know of any example but like having a phone number close to that of a whore house, or living next door to one. I expect some domain names and sites when queried in the SEO fashion might have a slightly different result than what was intended.
In a competitive market one could collude and mimic a web site (affiliate)to closely resemble your competitors "goods" and sink them like a whore on steroids.
The truth...... from the whorse's mouth
I am an internet prostitute. Not one of the "fancy" ones like the govenor had, but a lower priced model working on Craigslist.
Internet prostitution exists in every city or town, in every price range, involving women to suit any taste. You can find escorts offering services for $50 all the way up to $15,000. The vast magority are in the range of $125 to $400..... at least here in CA anyway.
We use the internet as an alternative to walking the streets or turning over a huge percentage of our earnings to agencies and pimps. For the most part, it is safe. Every once in a while you hear of a girl getting hurt by a john, but not very often. A threat that is much more real is that of a pimp posing as a customer, making an appointment, then coming to rob and rape you. So most of us working girls (the smart ones anyway) refuse to see black guys..... seeing that this is the most reliable way of avoiding pimps. And yes, it works. Maybe we are losing out on the "good" black guys out there, but with such a disproportionate ratio of good vs bad, it's an acceptable loss.
Most girls are 'condom only' providers. We understand that HIV is a very real threat and we don't want to get it. There are some girls that will provide a BBBJ (bare back BJ), but most would rather not take the chance. My theory is that if a girl is willing to take risks with HIV, either she doesn't know, she doesn't care, or she ALREADY HAS IT. And yes, there are girls who are HIV positive and still working. I know of only one, but there are many many more.
No girl grows up thinking she wants to be a prostitute. We end up here because we have no other (viable) way to earn a living. We have no education and no skills.... so what else are we going to do? We use our bodies instead of our minds. We all have secondary reasons as well. Some girls have kids to support, some have drug addictions, some are co-dependant on an abusive boyfriend. But NO girl does this because she likes it.
The guys that come to see us range from total woman-hating jerks to very shy and socially immature. The vast majority are just decent guys (I say decent..... not "good") who are either married unhappily or are just plain horny. A few of the gentlemen are true angels and end up pulling their favorate woman out of the business entirely..... but of course no girl should depend on that!
We often start out as strippers, then for some reason (like drugs or age), progress to prostitution. There are also a lot of immigrants (Asian, Russian and Mexican) who VOLUNTARILY work as prostitutes (the whole "white slavery" thing is a lie made up by fanatic christians out to save the world) in order to live a better life. Not all prostitues are created equal. many are not real prostitues at all, but are theives who just steal the money from their johns and then leave them hanging. If you choose to dabble, you should know where you are going.
There is much much more to say about internet prostitution, but I could go on and on. In closing, I may be a prostitute.... but judge not lest ye be judged. Just as you are more than your job, I too am more than mine.
Ma'am, you say that
Ma'am, you say that internet prostitutes like you go into prostitution because there is no other way for you to make money...
Yet in order to have this kind of business advertised and marketed online you must have sone knowledge of.. online advertising and marketing.
Which means that you could work for any number of companies that has products or services you could sell as an independent contractor. I.e. Affiliate marketing.
However, it should be noted that despite all the website/advertising/SEM/SEO skills these folks seem to have, they make a decision to NOT go into any other field.
Methinks the tax free money is to good for you to give up in order to switch careers. Am I hitting the nail on the head here? Or am I far off the mark?
Damn
Whatta hell? Am I at webpronews or at Mary's in downtown Portland?
Jason, whatta hell you boy started here? What does this has to do with them hard drives, google, microsoft, and 0s and 1s son? You running for NY governor? LOL! Jason for governator! Hat and everything.
Clay Feet
The hype concerning Governor Spitzer is understandable given it is recent news that concerns a high political person. However, this is not surprising in the sense that power and sex are correlated. That is people in power tend to have higher sex drives. Freud associated the sex drive with Eros the God of Love, as in Greek myths that provides an unconscious drive. Jung proposed that human psychology is concerned with unconscious archetypes, which influence us, so that the sex drive is associated with these archetypes that form complexes in consciousness.
Thereby, those in political power have more difficulty in controlling their sex drive. For example how many times has Reverend Jimmy Swaggart apologized to his Louisiana District of the Assemblies of God, and his Bible College, as well as the public for his many encounters with prostitutes? His inability to control his behavior is evidence of his powerful sex drive, in this case associated with power over his congregation, and vast religious affiliations.
Many other examples come to mind in both the religious, and political arenas that would require a treatise that sex and power are strongly correlated. Also, recall the truism, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
It's debatable whether Freud
It's debatable whether Freud and Jung and all of psychiatry are frauds. Have you ever seen a mental health doctor take a CAT scan of your brain? Where's there evidence? Have they ever cured anyone? No. Only callahan field therapy, related to kinesthesiology, has ever cured anyone of a mental illness. You can have a greater sex drive by taking ginseng, zinc, damiana, or yohimbe bark.
interesting topic
I saw on Discovery Channel a few years back researchers studying the brain via imaging and via the chemicals that were released. They concluded something kind of astonishing: creativity, sexuality, and spirituality all seemed to come from the same area of the brain...or that while one of these three things were active, the same area of the brain lit up.
That little bit of information just blew my mind. It makes me wonder then, if the three are connected in a such a way that if there is a perceived abundance of one, there might be a perceived abundance of the others. This could explain a few dastardly ministers in recent history, or why actresses seem a little freer than others...though that is all pure conjecture...
It could be, perhaps has to be, something very evolutionary or something very interestingly designed, if you believe that sort of thing...
The power and sex relationship is also interesting...but that may be that with power, all things are in reach...worse, power entitles us (humans) to all things within reach...ministers have a certain amount of power, too...
I'm riffing here, so please don't take anything I say as absolute, but something else occurs to me. At a cattle auction once, I watched as nervous cows succumbed to nervous humping, kind of a "this is it" kind of thing...that's probably my interpretation...but I wonder if when under extreme stress, like the types of stress those in leadership are under, if they view sex as an outlet, a way to control surroundings that are out of control, and as a way to justify their command of those surroundings.
All that, and my conspiratorial side doesn't buy it that the feds targeted Spitzer by accident. Of all the dirty politicians and all the call-girls around Washington, why Spitzer? Probably b/c he was gumming up the works with all that justice...
But you didn't hear that from me. :-) And I can't prove a word of it. Just riffing, like I said.
Update 10:17 PM Funny I said that there at the end...read this before something mysterious and tragic happens to this guy:
http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot-spitzer-gets-nailed/
Maybe there's more to this than the press is letting us know
The Fangs Come out...
Good Lord, write a post to provide information for people and all they want to do is tear you apart, Miss English 101. Don't you have anything better to do? I enjoyed the article and DID see "the SEO connection" for the person who asked what it had to do with it. (And it wasn't a stretch!) I worry constantly abt my site content as far as Google is concerned and yet they accept sponsored ads from sites advertising illegal activities? That was the shocking part for me. People, whether an action is morally right or wrong is between people and God but the Law is not subject to those judgements, only the law. (And prostitution is illegal regardless of how long it has been around, etc.) He participated in an illegal activity and as one in a position of proscecuting those who have broken the law he should be held to the highest of standards. He should be proscecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The end on that one for me. Back to the point of the article...SEO. I am not shocked that Google has already covered it's tracks on this one and I am sure they wasted no time in alerting their legal team to CYA. Thanks for the article and as someone who also makes typo errors, no biggie there. Some of these people really are anal and unfortunately missed the entire point you were attempting to make. Too bad.
SEO Connection
Umm...yeah some of these people completely missed the point to this post...which is of course SEO. I don't understand why Google accepts sponsored ads from sites advertising illegal activities either. Doesn't make much sense to me....actually it does - MONEY ! (Didn't know that call girls were reading up on optimizing their site either.)
thanks
Way to go, stupid! Are reporters the real whores?
Way to go stupid! Your article leads the lonely sheep right to the edge of the cliff. Who are the real whores, who sellout propriety for prosperity, Go ahead join the nit wit pundits, beat this dead horse.
Better yet use your God given sense. speak of solutions. I know the problems already.
Listen Jason Kid.
Listen Jason kid, I might be 70 years old but by god my fists are pretty active. Jason, have you ever had a good ole country ass whooping? Maybe that's what we was needing out of you son. Don't mess with us old folks: See this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=h3J_qB7daq4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BjkPwN_v_yc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FxKaB5EIxVg
you make me smile
You surprise me
Nothing about this article is surprising, except the comment, " Did you know that some of these sites offer senior citizen discounts? Ew. "
Well, you thirty-somethng ageist idiot, the actual truth is that prostitution is everywhere. People that want sex are everywhere and every age. One day, you too will be in your so called "senior years," and I sincerely wish that your little "Ew" of judgement will haunt you for the rest of your life.
Sex is ephemeral, the internet is forever.
a little extreme, don't you think?
Actually, I have no opinion on the matter. As for "ew." Sorry if you were offended. It's not that old people have sex, it's the shock that these places are run like any other business: daytime discounts, sr. citizen discounts...i found out that in australia, where it's legal, they have free giveaways.
All of that just seems kind of icky. But I do hope I'm still, ahem, "loveable" in the words of the Beattles, "when I'm 64."
Which Paul McCartney is, I believe, and probably still...well...never mind.
As for your sincere wish, I think that was kind of extreme, and I'm happy to inform you that past this conversation nothing will haunt me. Your judgment came swifter than mine.
Sometimes, as is the case with Spitzer, it's often the guy yelling the loudest about something. Or as we used to say in grade school: The smeller's the feller.
But above all I guess, we learn that sense of humor is not universal.
Sex And Power
Too much money spent by mr. Spitzer on those call girls, I did what you said in Google and found places where you`d spent that in a full all inclusive weekend ( Charlisangels escorts resort ). Why pay $4000 for a few hours when there`s so many other choices, usually safer? my advice to all men:
NEVER TRY THIS AT HOME.....
There`s places in the island of DR where there`s no snooping by feds, because it`s not within USA boundaries. Sorry for Eliot, this advice is a bit too late.
Live chatts is the most "direct" way to meet "clients"
Flirt4free.com and Livejasmin.com with its Live chatts have also much of the prostitusionbranch in their hands.The studios where the "models"are, is mostly runned by criminal groups in Russia,Bulgaria ,slovakia, czechia and Colombia,but are often located in another country.
At Flirt4free (wich shows the same models as a number of other adresses, at the same time)they first advertise that guests can chatt free of charge, in their "open chatt".When the "guests"(called Freeusers,who in the chatt have grey color of their text)are in the chatt,other models, pretending to be "registered members and have white and Gold text when they write, tryes to "force the guest" to register for "private chatt"(wich is looking at the "model" waking off or using dildoes).Their retoric is very sofisticated, with a number of psychological aproaches.
One person,usually calling himself: Principal, but he have a number of nicknames, leads the "work on the victims" to force them to register,with creditcardnumber etc.
In PVT(Private chatt=sexshows) the newly fooled member often are suggested to escort or even directly to suggestion on sexual services or totally fooled for "friendship".It is a friendship, where the member have to pay for: mothers operations,medical treatment,costs for university studies or even clothes, where the "model" are playing on the victims feelings for him.Its a sofisticated branch and the actors are well trained.
This is the most dubiouse part of the sexbranch online ,as it sells worthless "cyber-friendships" with so much lies that the victims rarely report it,to the lawenforcements,like Interpol.
However,Interpol IS present on Flirt4free.So is FBI,russian FSB and czech law,observing and documenting.Their aim is to disclose the "forcing actors"(like Principal,mke,--:,@,Pavlik and other nicks of wich some of them belongs to one and the same person)and those models who goes in to a trap ,where the member is belonging to any of mentioned lawenforcements.
The location of most studios, are wellknown to the law.So is the actors behind the studios.They are often involwed in other illegal activities, both online and outside the net, like Narcotics,sextraffiking,variouse types of prostitusions and selling of stole property.Some "models" are restrained and forced for these activities but still there are independent models as well.
How do i know this?Well, im working for Interpol myself on flirt4free.Stolen identities and bankaccounts that are looted are also common.The victims feel so much shame that they often dont report it.But some does.
Internet Prostitution
To me prostitution falls under the "victimless crime" heading and should have long ago been legalized. This is a service industry between consenting adults and basically no one's business but those involved. Maybe it will take the internet to help us all grow up.
Victimless Crime
Sakara -
I agree that prostitution, aka "providing" is a victimless crime. I worked in the industry for three years and have always cringed when online mediums - TV or the Internet - make out the women as damaged deliquents. There are a suprising amount of us that are college educated and work very hard and use this as a stepping stone to the next part of our life. I know design adult sites, whether agency, escorts or pay site for porn stars. I have used my marketing degree and adult entertainment background to do this. And I use every SEO idea I read here and other places, mix it up a bit to be relevant to the content and watch my sites do very well among the rankings. The one thing I must say about adult marketing is that we are not affraid to even try new things regarding SEO and affiliate marketing of our sites, it usually pays off in lucrative dollars.
Callie
Victimless Crime?
Tell Governor Spitzer's daughters that this is a victimless crime. Many families suffer when a spouse indulges in prostitution. Often the "Johns" are listed in local newspapers from the latest sting by police. Also, statistics show that many prostitutes have been sexually abused during their childhoods, and equate selfworth with using their bodies for sex. Then there are the "Johns". Have you ever researched sexual addiction? Many "Johns" seek out prostitutes in an addictive downward spiral that eventually cost them jobs, families, social standing, and shame. Often, there are victims involved.
Yes- Victimless.
To name the families as victims of this "crime" of adult consensual sex is to forget that these same people are "victims" in adultery when no money is exchanged. Your flawed logic would suggest that all adultery be deemed a crime. Or any sex that someone who wasn't involved was hurt by or bothered by.
Adult consensual sex should be completely decriminalized. Go after real harms like rape, slavery, and murder.
While the feds were expending resources on investigating and wiretapping Emperor's Club, some poor soldier- someone's son, brother, husband, father- was killed by shrapnel in Iraq because his armor wasn't thick enough, or some poor veteran can't get the medical attention he needs from the country that sent him to war. Those funds can be far better-spent than on harassing women and men who are engaging in activities which would be perfectly legal were there no money exchanging hands.
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