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we got google bowled - and google does not care
We had a spam site copy our content (thousands of pages) back in september. the retards did not remove some of our header links, so now 1000s of spam pages are linking to 1000s of our pages. lo and behold, we were hit with a 90+ penalty late october. our site is 100% legit with minimal to no seo - needless to say, we went from 40k visits / day to 500 visits. now, we are trying to contact google, we logged dmcas, went through wmt but still almost a month after the penalty THERE IS NO WORD FROM GOOGLE. they are behaving in a way microsoft did in the late nineties, they are vain and w/out regard to the web community (they do have a fake one though - but honestly, they just care about them hitting the quaterly numbers to please the street) - it's a shame and they will eventually pay the price, just like msft did, just like ebay did. the businesses that act in such ways will sooner or later be overthroned. and all that 'dont be evil' stuff - it's rediculous. they purposely chose not to hire customer service so they can continue to enjoy redicoulous profits while us who work hard building a page after page suffer. GOOGLE IS EVIL.
bowling
hi ..
i see that many of these comments on bowling are now a few years old. has this been eradicated now by googles latest algorithms? I've only just learnt about this but it does seem rather worring
SEO - Google Bowling
How can Google differenciate between a sponsor that has a logo accross all pages of a website, or a seal program accross all pages of a client and Google bowling? I don't think that this article is accurate anymore - Google is way past the days of primitive manipulation and SEO terrorism. It all comes down to Trust, Relevancy and user experience - unless you are trying to rank for some uncompetetive keyword like paperclip in a tiny uncompetetive country like chile then anything will work.
has this issue been
has this issue been addressed now or is it still just speculation as to whats going on?
Google Bowling
I agree...and this article is old now. Google Bowling is pretty much dead from what I have read.
Recent Readings About Google Bowling
I've recently read some articles that a person can sabotage another person's site - but temporarily. The use a proxy server to hide their IP address and then leave links on porn, gambling and other pretty bad sites.
Update
In an update to a comment I made earlier, I had a website that had been google bowled. And I truely think it had been. But, I was able to get my site out of the ditch by doing more link building. So, if this happens to you, just be sure to get back on track and keep link building.
Aaron
Super Sport Camaro
Google doesn't allow this
Google doesn't allow this anymore. They realize that some black hat SEO guys would link from porn or gambling sites to devalue the competitor's site.
SEO Columbus
This article is three and
This article is three and half years old now. 'Google Bowling' still exists ?!
I've just launched a website
I've just launched a website about a week ago and I think I already got google bowled... I listed my site in an aggressive forum on a signiture and today its been completely removed. Typing in the full address won't even show up. Its crazy because my yahoo listing still shows up.. This is a pretty shady way of taking out the competition and I aggree... I've only had the site up for a week and it has already been trashed.. Is there anything I can do to get relisted?
Aaron
http://www.dilusiauto.com
Iformative
Excellent posting. Very informative.
Any movement?
Is there any follow up to this article as it is something i have always been worried about..?
I think that Google has
I think that Google has taken care of this problem. I was reading some posts on warrior forum and digital point how sites were getting hurt by participating in link farms which means you can go and put your competitors site on a link farm and wait for them to get dropped out of the serps but this is no longer the case.
Pete
good information
unethical link method
I have rivals seo company activley trying to get my links removoved is this illegal?
Google
Interesting stuff. As a private investigator I have been involved with black hat, white hat and defamation. Some of the people I track down even purchased the name John Brewington to build domains with scurlous and incorrect information in an attempt to get me to back off.
I have been forced to learn the same game but this is not a level playing field. I am compelled to follow rules whereas they are not. Insiteful article. You have to hope they done learn this little trick.
Bodybuilding
Very much so!
Indeed, what you said is very much scary. I would like to see Google not counting the suscicious links. Even I had the same fear when the announcement came that paid links and sitewide links may get penalty. That's quite unfair and very much deplorable.
And as you say, crooks are not only in small firms, the large ones have huge amounts of money and any competitor arises against them, they can easily shower hell on them through this manipulative strategy, I guess. Also, by link building to the competitor from wrong neighborhoods like adult sites can be another headache right? I hope Google does as you say.
Lenin Nair
Creative writing blog
link exchange request
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Google Bowling
I don't think Google Bowling is possible. I have seen no material that states that this will remove you from the search engines or apply a penatly. If anything those links are probably just ignored. I think it would make no sense for google to penalise sites that buy links in. They probably reduce the value of sites that sell links though.
Google Bowling in theory should not be possible.
Even simpler.......why not
Even simpler.......why not implement a tool within webmaster tools that allow a site to tell google to ignore any links that a webmaster wishes!!
Update
For the previous readers, I think Google has already implemented his suggested strategy or something similar. Linking to a 'bad neighbourhood' definitely will affect your rankings, but not getting a link from one. You can control who you are linking to, but not who is linking to you.
Argh
Why hasn't Google done anything about this yet?
Great Idea
That is a great solution... rather than penalizing.. they just don't count sites that are marked as text link sales sites... then this whole google bowling thing would go away...
penalizing for bad links isn't the answer... because anyone can get links to any website.. they should just ignore!!
then inevitably... people would figure out that its a waste of time trying to manipulate the algorithims and focus on making a helpful site lol
So what is left to do?
Great Article
This is a great article. I have written an article called 20 Bad Ideas - Black Hat SEO Practices, at http://btw73.blogspot.com/2007/11/20-bad-ideas-black-hat-seo-practices.h... and linked to this post as a reference. Take a look!
Thanks,
Brian
Valid proof?
SEO theories are often hypotheses. Are there other resources related to the issue? Did Google penalize for site-wide links or those links got penalized because of the irrelevancy to the links?
Linking counter attack is not possible, IMO unless links are exchanged. No one can lower someone's website ranking as far as I know. Rumors and "seemingly-right" theories are rather weak. I just wanted to know if there are any back-up information on this.
James
http://www.xtremelinkbidding.com
I know first hand the
I know first hand the effects of automated listing in thousands of directories feels like. Somebody did that to a site of mine about a year ago. It was brand new at the time. 3 months later I decided to abandon the project. The only response from google readmision team was: get rid of the spammy links first. There was no way I could do that so the project eventualy died out.
Very good article
I think with time Google's business model and algorithm will get bloated which means that there is going to be much more room for problems, issues, failures and so on.
So far Google has been pretty incredible. Their search results have been the best in my opinion, even though at an odd occassion I have managed to find more material with MSN search.
If what you are saying here proves to be true Google will be under major threat, however so far they have proved that they can deal with any issue, especially when it comes to fixing search problems and exploits.
Regards,
Jason Grant
www.flexewebs.com
Isn't it already working?
I thought that Google already does like Michael has advised. Because I was surprised to once find out that Google has a special form to report sites that sell links.
And the first idea that got into my head was - it's a safe way to kill any competitor. And as I am not super-clever, I think the very idea came to Google's 'head' as well.
And the best solution, simply not to count the backlinks from pages that are highly possible to be selling backlinks. It's a lot easier than penalizing anyone.
Nick
http://www.AutoLinkExchanger.com
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